It is pathetic because you have to lift your own weight in life as an adult. You’re an adult, don’t act like a child that relies on their parents. It’s embarrassing and unfair. No one likes a lazy bum who lives in their parents basements at 30. Women want strong independent hardworking men who can make their own way in life.
I never even mentioned living of them. If I'm living in that house as an adult, I'm gonna be taking care of the expenses. I very specifically said, I'm taking care of them.
So Laura, do you live alone about right now? lol. And what makes you think MEN don`t also want a hard working woman that`s independent and makes their own way in life? you`re funny.
@YvanKarma First off, it’s Lauren, not Laura. Second, I moved out of my parent’s house when I turned 18 and became an adult thank you. Third, I literally never once said men don’t want independent hardworking women as well? Stop putting words in my mouth. If you mooch off your parents and are too lazy to bother getting a job and moving out you are pathetic. Grow the fuck up. End of story.
A lot of people who live with their parents actually pay for most things. Living with parents isn't the same as living off the parents. You're so narrow minded.
I think it's pathetic if you live off your parents and don't advance your career and mooch off them pretty much. That's pathetic. But if you want to help them and if they live with YOU that's something else. That's honorable I think. You might go crazy but it's up to you and it's nice of you I think
Mostly culture. In the US, it's a virtue to be more independent/entrepreneurial than in other cultures like say Mexico. Where having family from multiple generations all staying in the same household. That said, living with parents isn't seen as bad if you're working and paying rent, vs being a freeloader. Still cultural, but nonetheless that's how it's viewed.
Well I still live at home while I study. I've always enjoyed it here and I'm close with my family. And moving out in the middle of a student accommodation crisis here in Sweden where affordable housing is more and more scarce is unwise. Why trade down from a mansion to some cramped 1 room condo when I can just as easily commute and choose a good place when the chance arises and I feel like it's time. If anyone thinks that's pathetic, well I don't really care.
This guy is a software engineer in the US, people who call him pathetic could be the same ones who pay for his softwares and for membership of the site he created (which is pretty dumb). I don't really like him because he's the type that tries to monetize the most trivial stuffs (like charging people $ 80 for a piece of software that basically does coordinate transform through nonlinear projection), but I guess it's fine as long as there are people dumb enough to pay.
If you can’t afford to live on your own then you’re not really adult/independent.
Guys who live at home tend to let their mom control their life or control too much.
As far as the joys of living with parents (that you seem to have)... not all parents are saints. I let my mom live at my place for a few years. It was BAD. Never again.
Parents don't have children with the expectations of them taking care of them. Your question is quite ambiguous. Are your parents sick? If not then nobody should be living with their parents. Sure there might be circumstances that arise where the children lost a job, going to school to save money, etc etc which is fine as long as it's temporary.
Parents don't have that expectation. But they've raised me and made me the person I am today so it's only fair that I take care of them and provide for then when they're old.
I don't mean now. Right now in college and after that I'll be travelling a bit. Once I'm done with and setting my career. My parents will be in their 60s by then. So I believe I should be by their side.
I understand if you live with them due to finances and personal issues, I’ve been in that situation, but if a guy is living with his parents just because he doesn’t want to get a job or do anything himself, then I think that’s pathetic. When I was living with my parents, I was actively looking for jobs and finding a place to live. It was tough but I made it out on my own. I just lived with my parents until I could figure my life out.
Because it implies you can support yourself and that you need your parents' help. Overall I think it's fine, until you get married. Having a wife and kids in the same house as your parents will always cause friction and unnecessary opinions, even if all parties are perfectly normal and rational people.
That isn't true in my case. My parents and grandparents lived together in one house, though the place was legally my grandmothers. My dad and mom worked and wanted for the house. And we all lived perfectly well.
Living with your parents is not pathetic. It's the reality of the economic times, and of how expensive it is to get a college education. It only become pathetic if the child is taking advantage of the parents, not taking personal responsibility, and not doing what they can do to get a good job, etc.
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That's a stereotype at least in the US. In lots of countries it's not bad. They mostly think what's the point of living alone if you're not married? In some countries it's an insult to the parents, as in you are either so weak that you can't provide for your child, or you are such a bad parent that you can't control your child enough to keep them from leaving the house. It's especially bad for girls in some countries to move out before marriage because it implies they are having premarital sex. And a lot of times boys that move out before marriage are accused of sleeping around with innocent girls they have tricked into giving up their virginity. People actually prefer and try to keep their children at home more as a sign of kindness and support or because the elders need care and company rather than the children's inefficiency and inability to move out.
Depends on the reasons why a person is still living there. If you are working, paying your own bills, doing your own chores and saving for a house it can be fair enough. If you are lazy and just there for a free ride in life then it is pathetic.
It depends on the situation. If they have a career or are working towards a financial goal, that’s smart. If they have no job or are working a minimum wage job with no desire to improve then that’s not for me
I would say as long as your working towards something like buying a house or building an emergency fund or getting your stock portfolio up then that should be okay. Just explain that. If your just sponging off your parents then thats a different story
I think it has a lot to do with the fact that most people in today's culture tend to equate living with ones parents with laziness, even though there is no logical reason for this assumption.
Society is making it more and more "acceptable" to continue to sponge off the parents and the system by virtue of obamacare (health care through parents until 26), "food stamps", etc. Being there for your parent is a noble cause- people are just getting fed up with the freeloaders who reject their own responsibility to pull their own weight in society rather than have society support them.
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It is pathetic because you have to lift your own weight in life as an adult. You’re an adult, don’t act like a child that relies on their parents. It’s embarrassing and unfair. No one likes a lazy bum who lives in their parents basements at 30. Women want strong independent hardworking men who can make their own way in life.
I never even mentioned living of them. If I'm living in that house as an adult, I'm gonna be taking care of the expenses. I very specifically said, I'm taking care of them.
You never said you were taking care of expenses... funny how the story changes...
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So Laura, do you live alone about right now? lol. And what makes you think MEN don`t also want a hard working woman that`s independent and makes their own way in life? you`re funny.
@YvanKarma First off, it’s Lauren, not Laura. Second, I moved out of my parent’s house when I turned 18 and became an adult thank you. Third, I literally never once said men don’t want independent hardworking women as well? Stop putting words in my mouth. If you mooch off your parents and are too lazy to bother getting a job and moving out you are pathetic. Grow the fuck up. End of story.
A lot of people who live with their parents actually pay for most things. Living with parents isn't the same as living off the parents. You're so narrow minded.
@pleasestopthis Exactly.
@jess yeah he keeps changing his story
I think it's pathetic if you live off your parents and don't advance your career and mooch off them pretty much. That's pathetic. But if you want to help them and if they live with YOU that's something else. That's honorable I think. You might go crazy but it's up to you and it's nice of you I think
Mostly culture. In the US, it's a virtue to be more independent/entrepreneurial than in other cultures like say Mexico. Where having family from multiple generations all staying in the same household. That said, living with parents isn't seen as bad if you're working and paying rent, vs being a freeloader. Still cultural, but nonetheless that's how it's viewed.
Well I still live at home while I study. I've always enjoyed it here and I'm close with my family. And moving out in the middle of a student accommodation crisis here in Sweden where affordable housing is more and more scarce is unwise. Why trade down from a mansion to some cramped 1 room condo when I can just as easily commute and choose a good place when the chance arises and I feel like it's time.
If anyone thinks that's pathetic, well I don't really care.
All over the west house/rent prices are stupendously high... As others are saying it's this boomer mindset that is just so outdated in today's world.
Well, in Western cultures, it's seen as a sign of success to be independent from one's parents and be able to establish one's own household.
It's changing a lot now that the middle class has been in sharp decline, with a huge shift taking place during the recession.
pathetic? more like ez 48k/year passive income 😂😂😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4oMEljRzBY@12:52
This guy is a software engineer in the US, people who call him pathetic could be the same ones who pay for his softwares and for membership of the site he created (which is pretty dumb). I don't really like him because he's the type that tries to monetize the most trivial stuffs (like charging people $ 80 for a piece of software that basically does coordinate transform through nonlinear projection), but I guess it's fine as long as there are people dumb enough to pay.
It's normal where I live. Nothing pathetic about it. What's pathetic is having to make appointments to meet your own damn family.
If you can’t afford to live on your own then you’re not really adult/independent.
Guys who live at home tend to let their mom control their life or control too much.
As far as the joys of living with parents (that you seem to have)... not all parents are saints. I let my mom live at my place for a few years. It was BAD. Never again.
In some cultures it’s considered normal to live with your parents but in the U. S. it’s sad/pathetic if you’re living in their place.
Parents don't have children with the expectations of them taking care of them. Your question is quite ambiguous. Are your parents sick? If not then nobody should be living with their parents. Sure there might be circumstances that arise where the children lost a job, going to school to save money, etc etc which is fine as long as it's temporary.
Parents don't have that expectation. But they've raised me and made me the person I am today so it's only fair that I take care of them and provide for then when they're old.
You can't do that living somewhere else? Why do you need to live with them? Are they old and sick and need your support?
I don't mean now. Right now in college and after that I'll be travelling a bit. Once I'm done with and setting my career. My parents will be in their 60s by then. So I believe I should be by their side.
And yeah my mom had a few ailments.
I understand if you live with them due to finances and personal issues, I’ve been in that situation, but if a guy is living with his parents just because he doesn’t want to get a job or do anything himself, then I think that’s pathetic. When I was living with my parents, I was actively looking for jobs and finding a place to live. It was tough but I made it out on my own. I just lived with my parents until I could figure my life out.
In response to your update. My parents are always telling me when they get old they will move closer to me.
Because it implies you can support yourself and that you need your parents' help. Overall I think it's fine, until you get married. Having a wife and kids in the same house as your parents will always cause friction and unnecessary opinions, even if all parties are perfectly normal and rational people.
That isn't true in my case. My parents and grandparents lived together in one house, though the place was legally my grandmothers. My dad and mom worked and wanted for the house.
And we all lived perfectly well.
Living with your parents is not pathetic. It's the reality of the economic times, and of how expensive it is to get a college education. It only become pathetic if the child is taking advantage of the parents, not taking personal responsibility, and not doing what they can do to get a good job, etc.
That's a stereotype at least in the US. In lots of countries it's not bad. They mostly think what's the point of living alone if you're not married? In some countries it's an insult to the parents, as in you are either so weak that you can't provide for your child, or you are such a bad parent that you can't control your child enough to keep them from leaving the house. It's especially bad for girls in some countries to move out before marriage because it implies they are having premarital sex. And a lot of times boys that move out before marriage are accused of sleeping around with innocent girls they have tricked into giving up their virginity.
People actually prefer and try to keep their children at home more as a sign of kindness and support or because the elders need care and company rather than the children's inefficiency and inability to move out.
Depends on the reasons why a person is still living there. If you are working, paying your own bills, doing your own chores and saving for a house it can be fair enough. If you are lazy and just there for a free ride in life then it is pathetic.
I'm for the first one, I earn for both myself and my parents.
It depends on the situation. If they have a career or are working towards a financial goal, that’s smart. If they have no job or are working a minimum wage job with no desire to improve then that’s not for me
I would say as long as your working towards something like buying a house or building an emergency fund or getting your stock portfolio up then that should be okay. Just explain that. If your just sponging off your parents then thats a different story
I think it has a lot to do with the fact that most people in today's culture tend to equate living with ones parents with laziness, even though there is no logical reason for this assumption.
I see nothing wrong with it personally.
Hahahahaha...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVMIf only people understood the nature of money in the first place:
That's a cultural thing. In my country, that's pretty normal.
Society is making it more and more "acceptable" to continue to sponge off the parents and the system by virtue of obamacare (health care through parents until 26), "food stamps", etc. Being there for your parent is a noble cause- people are just getting fed up with the freeloaders who reject their own responsibility to pull their own weight in society rather than have society support them.