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I think it will only get worse. In the past there was still some naiivety when it came to the people who owned everything they didn't know yet how much they could exploit everyone and everything. But now people have caught on they're not leaving a single penny on the table and they will take advantage of struggling people wherever they can. Also in the U. S. unions have been sabotaged as much as possible by the owner class. Even though economies actually do better when the wealth is more spread out, rich people will never learn and keep being greedy until they crash everything again.
There's no wiggle room left for anyone. Unless you're a person with a really valuable skill you're just going to get squeezed and wrung out. The system is built more to take advantage of people who are struggling than to support and lift people up and enable them to reach a potential that they can never reach without the right environment.
The housing market is part of the problem too yes. But I think there's a lot more factors contributing to this.
Some of it is lack of parenting and teaching responsibility. Not teaching the value of hard work and being reliable. Not being able to communicate due to all the texting and lack of personal people skills. Another aspect is that everyone had to have their big closure of businesses during the scam called Covid. That was of course by design to damage economic conditions worldwide in order to put in place this new so-called “great reset.“ The stated goals of the world economic forum are that “by 2030 you will own nothing and be happy.” It’s pure evil!
It’s also due to inflation and printing money due to all the government spending on entitlements, wars, as well as government tyranny and regulation. In the US, the government from the federal level on down is committing treason against the United States Constitution and her people!
There are a lot of factors obviously but what it comes down to in the end is power, control, money, and a dependency of the people combined with lack of responsibility, lack of maturity, and feeling entitled!
it's extremely understandable, especially now. life fucking sucks. it's hard out there with inflation, greed, increasing prices, price gauging. it's almost impossible to live life. i don't get people's judgement. i think they should mind their own business as it doesn't affect them how old someone is still living at home. believe me. they get it. they understand everyone looks down on them. they don't need a reminder.
In my country, most young people live at home with parents, well until they get married.
It was very unusual for me to leave home at 20.
But I am happy for that. I wish I could have done it at 18.
Which country
Georgia
Don’t you mean USA, Georgia?
No , country I mean
Are you Spanish? Because I noticed your name
I am Georgian…. From the country of Georgia, in Eastern Europe
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I don't think it's that simple. Yes, housing costs relative to income are certainly a part of it, perhaps the biggest part of it, but the primary reason young people moved out on their own, historically, was to start families of their own, and social attitudes about marriage and relationships have crippled that, on top of which lowered incomes relative to costs hamper, since raising a family on a single income is impossible for most of the country these days, and there's a lot less appeal when both partners are out of the house- and the strain that causes dampens chances of it lasting even more.
Raw increases in payouts don't mean much- look at wages as a percent of GDP over time and you'll see how stupid the idea of having only stick to measure economic growth or contraction against is.
that was brilliantly presented tnx.
If I hadn't locked in our mortgage when we did I couldn't afford to live where I live in today's economy. We have two of our adult children living with us simply because housing is so expensive. Its crazy, this idea that you just need to work harder is simply a pipe dream. One of our kids who lives with us works for the state, makes decent money for his age but if he was to move out he'd need a second job or roommates. The base is that someone should make 5x their house payment or rent. So someone who is living in a decent apartment in our state would need a 6 figure income just to afford the apartment. And 6 figure jobs are not apartment level housing, we're talking professionals and upper level management.
The world is in a worse place than the Great Depression at the moment. In 2020 non-participation in the American workforce hit 39.9% and it is currently at 37.3%. Non-participation is a spruced up term for long term unemployment. Once you come off of unemployment insurance and still can't find work, your category is changed to non-participation. In 1933 unemployment hit a peak of 25% for one year. For most of the great depression unemployment hovered roughly around 10-11%. The government won't tell you that the world economy is royal fucked, but it is...
Some may argue, it's been worse in the past. That would only be due to women not being part of the work force to begin with historically. Due to currency debasement women had to eventually enter the workforce to maintain a basic household. Yet, the Fed is still devaluing currency further.
When I was a kid I was utterly convinced that leaving home at 18 was a necessary part of having a life, and that staying behind was utterly pathetic.
Admittedly in the years since then I have realised that it was a kinda stupid judgement to make in hindsight.. and I have absolutely NO fucking chance of ever buying my own home while stuck in this rental trap. And if anyone has the sense to remain with their parents to avoid paying rent so that they have some small chance of eventually making something of their life... that they should definitely do so.
govt is trashing their lives, has been for decades. Spending more than we earn and kids not prepared.
the only way kids get to good place is parents pass on the "wealth" and have careers with good pay and no debt.
others are wards of the state.
It's really sick... I keep voting these people out but some idiots keep voting them back in. wake up america... but honestly, at 33 trillion, it's getting too late.
about "govt" government spending, reminder it TRIMMED federal aid to many countries by trump. for example Kenya and more.
i guess it got raised by obama helping his birthplace lol.
"small government" is a principal in republican rnc. seems like you would prefer that.
@strateguy632 Limited govt, it goes in ebbs and flows. but when things are "good", put some money in the bank. Clinton era got it balanced. Trump spent on military but cut back elsewhere... at least he cut something. Current bunch is like a rerun from Jurasic park... spare no expense. Its easy when have a printing press but that thing gonna blow as rates go higher.
It's tough... because it is the easiest way to redistribute wealth, which is what they are doing.
I've seen the poverty up close. Not all the fault of the govt... it's failed parents. but USA people in need don't always get it.
The housing market has failed. It's literally illegal to build housing in much of the United States. In Seattle most land is zoned for single-family homes. So although there is enormous demand for housing, it is not possible to build apartments in most parts of Seattle. Many other cities are the same -- there is demand but zoning makes construction very expensive as there is little land available.
It's multiple factors of course.. Like it being harder to live on your own. Back in the day on a the wages we get now you could comfortably raise a family.. Now you damn near need 6 figures to live comfortably depending on where you live. It's starting to become a smart decision to stay at home and save up. But also of course people are getting married later as well, and our values are not as strong as they once were.
It makes financial sense, Bidenomics has made home ownership all but impossible for most people who don't already have one and renting is an ever-increasing waste of money. The only reason to rent if you have the option to live with your parents is if your a guy and you don't want to look like a loser even though Biden has made losers of most of us.
I think it’s fine. I didn’t officially move out until I was 24. My friend still lived with her parents at 30. She’s their only daughter and they’re very family oriented. She’s a teacher with her own car and everything.
graph to 2020, like you said, caused by covid and lockdowns by fauci etc.
probably now 2023 too due to inflation caused by biden handouts, as fox warned during election season. surprise? they predicted correctly
It is expensive to buy a house. Interest rates are high and the cost of housing is also at record highs. A person needs a hundred thousand dollars to get a decent house where i live.
I mean... it's easier. There's not really a ton to be excited about when you move out. Most people aren't making enough money to really live on their own. At least they have the chance to save up some cash.
It’s terrible and not getting any better all because of the ridiculous prices of housing which happened before inflation started, there’s no way incomes will ever catch up, they need to reduce taxes so things will go back down but that never happens, this country is in trouble until someone can fix the tax problem
Perhaps the reasons are not all related to the economy. Maybe younger people are failing to develop autonomy and want to remain dependent.
Inflation and housing market - huge deal.
People living how ever they want to live - no big deal.
Well, a lack of housing affordability and high inflation in general makes that totally understandable.
Absolutely. A combination of slave wages, low employment, high rents/house prices, inflation and biden economics.
I think it should be expected, considering that the cost of houses and rentals has far outpaced the increases in income for decades.
and it's horrible. good workers should get cost of living raises, and government policies must change. or vote in a guy who knows about businesses economic no options besides trump.
Nobody should be living with their parents past the age of 21. You can live just as cheaply in a shared house situation.
Of course they do I know they can’t afford it
I'm one of those people lol
I think it's okay.
It's better than The Streets especially up north
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