Isn't it funny how we call women "single mothers" as an insult when they're the only parent that stayed?

[nastyb]

[RavVid]

Well in some cases the guy won't know they are a father. In other cases, there was never any intent of it being a relationship let alone a relationship within which to have and raise children.

In another whopping 50% of cases, by 8 years the mom is single because she got rid of the father.

So I think we can say single mothers are single by choice and consider that an unfortunate choice to deride. It is odd to describe them as the only parent that stayed when they made it so.

It is quite possible a boy never has a relationship with a mature man. That is deeply troubling. Girls in single mother households often have male hunger and lose their virginity at 12 yo or less, instead of the global average of 17.5 yo when they are nearly adults.

There are a whole range of measures in which the children of single mothers do worse. More likely to use drugs and to have been in jail is one notable one.

So I think societal discouragement is a force for the good.

[nastyb]

look at all the lies that these deadbeat baby daddies are desperately pumping out...

trying to justify why they abandoned their babies

[RavVid]

Actually I don't what lies they pump out because I don't know any guy who has. I just know one guy whose wife divorced him and forced 3 of his 4 children to abandon him. Just one daughter still has time for him and he is as big a part of her life as he can be. He is badly hurt that his ex-wife made it unpleasant for the other 3 children if they spent time with him. In the end they became distant and surprising only the youngest still wanted him in her life when you might expect the youngest to be the most easily manipulated.

According to him, the ex wives set about destroying the fathers relationship with his children most often.

It is probably something a divorced father with divorced children would only talk about with other men in the same circumstances cause they don't have to explain their emotions to them.

[nastyb]

@RavVid

most men want nothing to do with their babies after divorce. Pointing out that very rare few 1 dude who actually wants to see his kids, does not count. Most men don't want to see their kids after a divorce. Thats why over 90% of single parents are single moms, not single dads

[RavVid]

Not from what I see. Courts conventionally give the mother custody and rarely the fathers. The mother has to be spectacularly bad for the father to get custody and it usually costs an impossible amount of money to contest whilst the mothers legal fees are subsidized and end up being paid by her husband.

Many just resign themselves to being done over by highly biased courts.

[nastyb]

@RavVid

Mom getting custody, dad usually always gets visitation

But often times, most of the dads dont even want to visit their kids

Data shows most single moms dont even get child support

[RavVid]

I can only go by what happens in my locale and it is not what happens in my locale. Maybe it does in yours.

[NotLongKindaGirthy]

I don't think the term is meant as an insult. People call them single mothers because they're single (i. e., unmarried) and mothers (i. e., women with children).

[nastyb]

There is a negative connotation to the saying

[NotLongKindaGirthy]

The negative connotation comes from it being a less-than-ideal situation, not from it being a veiled insult.

What are we SUPPOSED to call women with one or more children but no spouse? "Unringed"? "Spousally impaired"? "Husband-free"?

[MemeSupreme]

i agree but a lot of single mothers do it to themselves and dont try to change. ik a lot of it is culture, their own family, and its not always easy to. as a parent tho, they are still making it harder for her and the kids

like you literally see it all the time where the oldest sibling grows up too quickly bc they have to babysit the others who all have different dads too. its bullshit

[MemeSupreme]

i dont like it being an insult either but its not like there isn't a reason for it either tho

[SereneScribe3]

It's startling to see how so many people on this site lack any empathy, or compassion about others. No wonder chatbots are becoming increasingly popular nowadays

[MemeSupreme]

how do you feel like i am? im not gonna try to debate and pick at what you say btww

like my point was that i'm annoyed at parents in general (not single mothers specifically) that keep repeating mistakes that hurt their kids. like my parents did it and ik other A LOT of people who grew up too quickly bc of it too

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Behold! The blatant double-standard of the patriarchy where even when a man is the one who clearly did wrong, the woman is still made to take the blame.

[avery58]

I don't think it's an insult to call someone a single mother if she is a single mother. If you mean that they are shamed for being single mothers, yeah. It's wrong. But men who abandon their children are called deadbeats and rightly judged more than the mother as well.

[Orion84]

I don't consider the expression "single mother" to be an insult, any more than I consider the phrase "single father" to be one.

It's simply a descriptive term, denoting that there is no co-parent; nothing more. That's nothing inherently negative about it.

[Ariesman81]

The whole reason they're single mothers is because they drove the fathers away. The mother didn't stay, they were so unbearable to deal with that the man weighed his choices and decided giving her money was better than giving up his sanity.

[nastyb]

haha look at the woman hating.

[Ariesman81]

Nah... just giving you back the same energy you give out.

[nastyb]

@ariesman81

im not hating. the facts show that over 90% of single parents are single moms. Data also shows that most single moms don't even receive child support from the father.

sorry, just the truth, not hating on you

[Ariesman81]

Show the study

[Anonymous]

No. Because if she had chosen a good man to begin with he would have stayed. But since she's not smart enough to do that... well, it's just easier to say "single mom" with the implied insult.😆

[nastyb]

You ever heard of the saying:

You never know who you are married to until you marry them.

[Opinion Owner]

No. Because only idiots choose partners like that.

[Opinion Owner]

You ever heard of taking responsibility for your actions?

[Opinion Owner]

Of course not, you're a woman.🤦‍♂️

[nastyb]

@OpinionOwner

People always put on their best behavior prior to marriage. You dont find out who you are truly with until you get pregnant by them

[nastyb]

[You ever heard of taking responsibility for your actions?]

Funny how you dont think men have to take responsibility for abandoning their kids

A woman is not responsible for a mans mistakes

[Opinion Owner]

Yes, women fake with men to this is why you don't by everything she's selling to you fully vet her. And you certainly don't marry her.
Look hun. All I can do is tell you the truth I never expected you to wise up and listen. That would be too much for your benefit. You relish living in ignorance and then later playing the victim. But this is reality. It will continue to be reality regardless of what you post here.
As far as the guy being responsible. Of course he wasn't responsible. And she was too stupid to deduce that. She was too busy being to all in her feelings and now she pays the price for it. The ONLY real victim in the matter is the child. He has no dad and sh*tty mom. The child is the ONLY one I feel bad for.

[nastyb]

@OpinionOwner

A woman is not responsible for a mans mistakes

[Opinion Owner]

A woman is responsible for choosing that man ergo she is responsible foe not exercising good judgement.
You might as well block me because I'm not going to be silent. You asked a question. And I answered it truthfully. That isn't going to change. I answer the truth whether you choose to accept it or not, it's still the truth.👍

[nastyb]

@OpinionOwner

the man could've easily put on a good act.

women aren't human crystal balls.

you didn't answer truthfully. you answered with bias.

pretty obvious you love patriarchy

[Opinion Owner]

With enough time a person shows you truly who they are. If you're not smart enough, or willing enough to put in the effort to see that person for who they truly are, that's on you. You're copping out because you're lazy. Or simply don't want to.
Human's aren't crystal balls. I'm not talking you to be. I'm simply asking you to use your head a little. It is allowed. That's all you'll get is the truth from me. You know nothing about me. I could care less about the patriarchy. Once again you're allowing your anger to cloud your judgment.

[nastyb]

@OpinionOwner

Women are not in born lie detectors. We are not trained in spotting out weak actresses

take responsibility over your own mistakes and stop trying to blame women for your own mistakes.

I'm not even angry. Because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders will know you are in the wrong.

There is no truth coming from you, just pure hate out of your mouth.

[nastyb]

@OpinionOwner

If women were so sharp in detecting lies, women would never ever make mistakes in life.

[Opinion Owner]

It's not rocket science hun. It just takes paying attention.🤦‍♂️ you're LAZY!

[nastyb]

@OpinionOwner

lazy for what? not being born with an innate talent for detecting lies?

do you know how successful all women would be if they were all lie detectors.

women would run the world if they could detect lies.

[nastyb]

no, women don't need to take the blame for you abandoning your kids...

you abandoned them, not her

[Opinion Owner]

Reality doesn't stop being reality just because you find it unplayable hun.

[Opinion Owner]

Unpalatable*

[nastyb]

@OpinionOwner

just because you claim its reality, it does not mean its actually reality.

[Opinion Owner]

But it is reality.

[nastyb]

I find it hilarious how you dont think its the mans fault. It goes to show how psychopathic men are.

[Opinion Owner]

I find it hilarious not only how dumb you are. But how terrible your reading comprehension is to boot.

[jahaims]

It's an insult because they let a loser nut in them.

[nastyb]

I find it hilarious how you dont think its the mans fault. It goes to show how psychopathic men are.

[Anonymous]

Women often make themselves single mothers because they allow their friends to brainwash them into believing their man hates them because he asked her to do the dishes.

[nastyb]

nothing wrong with doing dishes but if I gotta work a full time job, come home and do 100% of the child care, housework. While my husband just works a job, comes home and makes messes. Its not fair.

[Opinion Owner]

The point is women for whatever reason like keeping other women single and miserable.

A woman will tell her friends about a silly argument, her man not feeling up to a date night, etc and the friends will convince her that he hates her and that she can do better.

[nastyb]

@OpinionOwner

well the data shows that 70% of women initiate divorces...

if women were so happy being married, they wouldn't be initiating so many divorces.

let the truth be known

[Opinion Owner]

What are you on about? That just proves my point that women often make themselves single mothers.

[nastyb]

@OpinionOwner

daddy deciding to abandon his kids has nothing to do with mommy divorcing him.

[Opinion Owner]

Many single mothers still have the child's father actively involved in their lives.

[nastyb]

Most dont. The only ones who are so called active only visit their kids once or twice a month. Dad just shows up whenever he feels like it. Mom does everything else. Dad is never there when the kid is sick, never has to change diapers.

I know way too many kids who say dad left and never came back

[Kelly6]

@nastyb NO

sometimes the single mother is the one who left the father of kids.

[nastyb]

@Kelly6

that doesn't make up for the vast majority of the cases.

Not many women out there who enjoy being single moms

[beefcakebradybatson]

It is a misogynistic term, because few speak of single fathers, though more folk are mentioning them.

[Twalli]

Sometimes they're entirely at fault that they're single.

[nastyb]

nothing justifies abandoning your children

[nastyb]

I find it hilarious how you dont think its the mans fault. It goes to show how psychopathic men are.

[Twalli]

It isn't always his fault

[DCVsMarvel2]

i know lots of single dads

[nastyb]

single dads are hard to find

[DCVsMarvel2]

not at all

[nastyb]

yes they are. over 90% of single parents are single moms

[DCVsMarvel2]

Nope