I was recently scrolling through a website I found called College Candy, where I found this article called: Dear Victoria’s Secret, Where Are The Models Who Aren’t A Size 2?
I found this kind of surprising.
I mean Victoria's Secret is a lingerie company founded in 1977 who use skinny, yes I said it, skinny, models to represent their brand.
It's their thing.
Just like, for example, Apple would not hire someone without knowledge of software or hardware, or Nike wouldn't hire a non-athletic model, Victoria's Secret would not hire a model that doesn't conform to their standards.
It's not wrong, it's just they've built up an image for their brand and what's wrong is other people who think this almost 40 year company will change just for them.
In fact, the stores sell up to DDD sized bras, which are pretty big. If someone is bigger than that, it becomes a specialty item, and Victoria's Secret shouldn't have to cater to every single persons needs, especially when a good chunk of women are within the size range that Victoria's Secret sells.
Refering back to the Apple example, it would be like a couple of people who don't like the colors of the iPhones, saying they only cater to people who like white, grey, black, and rose gold. It would be like asking Apple to make a brand new Olive Green iPhone just for them. In my opinion, of course.
What do you think?
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I think you're right. It's not VS's job to please everyone who might be butthurt about the models they choose to hire. They've been in business 40 years so they must be doing something right.
You are comparing bra size and skinny models to intelligennce, hiring qualified employees and being good at your work. Okay then.
Intelligence is what qualifies a person to work at Apple, while a skinny body is what qualifies a woman to model for Victoria's Secret. I don't see a difference. They're both qualifications someone needs for a specific job.
True. Victoria's secret has more shallow standards but if you disliie that (like me) just don't shop there. I do agree that getting offended is stupid
Yeah, I agree. If you don't like it, it doesn't mean you have the right to ask the company to change. Just don't shop there.
Yep. However in some cases people should ask company to change, like have you seen the shit American apparel puts out?
I don't agree with you there. Even if you don't like what American Apparel puts out, I don't think you should ask them to change. Just like you said before, if you don't like it, you shouldn't shop there. Does it really personally affect you when American Apparel puts out a piece of clothing you don't like?
I don't care about the clothes. I care abut the gross sexist advertisement.
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There is so much more than this
I still think it's the same thing. That advertisement was meant to appeal to a certain group of people. It's their loss if they lose potential customers by putting out an ad like this, but no one has the right to tell them what kind of ads they should put out.
Yes, we have right to tell what type of adds they shouln't put out. If they are too sexual, sexist, racist etc. it is wrong. It's not like it is illegal to complain.
I don't agree. I think as long as the model consents, there is nothing wrong with a sexual ad. That is how they promote their brand. And you're right, it's not illegal to complain, but why would you? When American Apparel puts out a sexual ad, does it harm you in any way? I mean, the model agreed to have her photo taken in a compromising position, so they're really not doing anything wrong.
Why would I? Because we can't acheive antthing if we don't say anything. Women would still be in kitchen making sandwicges and black people would be oppressed. We gotta complain a bit if we see things that are wrong. Like this ad that sexualizes women in a gross way. And sure, it doesn't harm me, but few years ago it would have. Kids and teens are easy to manipulate.
The difference between women's rights and slavery is that women and African-Americans were personally victimized. Who is being victimized here? Children? You mentioned that children and teens are impressionable. Sure, I agree. But how does an ad featuring a sexualized woman affect a child and what they would think?
Well boys get the idea that sexualizing women is okay and thry are just sexual objects. Girls grt the idea they should look like tht and act like that to be attractive. But who are victimized here, women obviously.
I agree partially with what you said. I definitely agree that young boys might see an ad like this and begin to think of women as sexual objects if they didn't have any other female influence in their life. But, I think that boys' experiences aren't made up solely of ads they see or anything. What most people tend to forget is that, boys interact with girls daily. Whether it be their mom, classmate, neighbor, or sister, boys interact with other girls in their life. Their opinion of women isn't based on just a couple of ads they see. The same goes for girls. I don't think a couple of ads will change how they view themselves, their friends, or their family members.
Ofcourse they interact with other women too. Annd girls have other influences too. But porn, magazines, tv, movies etc. They are all full of bullshit, photoshop, sexual pictures.
Yup.