And I see the way someone chooses to wear their makeup as more of their sense of style/artistic way of presenting themselves than some type of “mask” like I’ve heard other guys refer to it as. But I’m still curious for other peoples opinions


Copied and pasted from a previous answer where I kind of went all out, because I think it's relevant...
This is the way I look at it:
Pretty much everyone, both guys and girls, look better with make-up, IF they apply it right, because it's a powerful thing and you can use it for all sorts e. g. hide a receding or far back hairline, acne, dark circles, make skin look clearer/more even, etc.
If I'm used to seeing a girl with makeup on however and then I see her without it, the comparison can be harsh, especially if she wears a lot of eye make-up, because of the reasons above, sometimes even if she looks good without it, due to the 'power of makeup', I'll give an example:
6 and below - Meh, nothing special
7 - Good
8 - Very Good
9 - Amazing
10 - Perfect
The above is your personal rating scale for an upcoming boxing match. Let's say two boxers who have never fought each other before, will do so (Boxer Red & Boxer Blue) and as a boxing fan, you're very excited for the fight and you EXPECT the fight in terms of entertainment, to be a 10/10 to you, so basically perfect. Now, the fights over and you rate it a 7/10 in terms of entertainment, so it's 'good'. Despite the fact that it's good on your personal rating scale, you could still view it as a disappointment, simply because your expectations in terms of entertainment, wasn't met, despite it still being good in it's own right.
Ultimately, I prefer natural though, simply because it's the person's REAL look. Yes, women look better with make-up, but it's simply not their real look and I think guy's want to see a woman's real face, hair, etc, because we know how much of a difference it can make to women, because if make-up were women's make-up looks were there natural look, then a large percentage of women are attractive enough, at least according to my standards, as I have a variety of tastes and anyone can bump up the rating scale massively like that.
My rating system of natural women vs women wearing make-up, is different, like I don't generally compare the two, because I know how much of a difference it can make.
by the way, this isn't me saying women shouldn't wear make-up, do whatever the hell you want, just understand why some guys may be a bit paranoid and feel deceived, especially when it can make such a major difference to some, as some don't even have any real eyebrows.
Also, when I say natural, it doesn't mean, don't brush your teeth, manage body hair or refuse to moisturise, you can look after yourself well in natural ways than can shine through and show the rewards of your efforts, not just something you can wash or wipe off of your face.
It’s a matter of degree. Lipstick, blush, and light eyeliners, high heels, etc simulate sexual receptivity on the part of a woman and is a cost that indicates her desire to look attractive and presumably be open to advances. Otherwise, why “The Biology of Beauty: The Science behind Human Attractiveness” by Rachelle M Smith has an interesting point about this around page 61-63. I haven’t read the whole book so I can’t talk much more about it than that but it has some interesting information from what I have read.
Men often say that they don’t like makeup because many women overdo it and look like clowns. It’s jarring and seems to be due to an effect called the “uncanny valley” in which something looks highly human, but just off enough that it causes a feeing of revulsion. I personally think I have a lower tolerance for this than other men. There was a girl in high school that everyone thought was beautiful and she went on to become a mode and small time actress, so I presume she is. I personally however thought she looked ridiculous and was not attracted to her at all because of her makeup use.
I honestly think it depends on the situation. More than likely most men will go for a girl wearing makeup over one who isn't if they are both right in front of him. Just for the fact that first impressions are important and makeup is more attention grabbing. Some will also assume that the girl not wearing makeup doesn't care about her appearance and therefore doesn't take care of herself. Also they will take the chance with the makeup one in hopes that she looks just as good as she does without makeup on. But in other situations like at the grocery store they see a lone female without makeup on and it will be appealing to them.
I understand their 'false advertisement' opinions though, but honestly it's kind of disappointing to see so many men who put a lot of stock into looks. Almost makes me think I should probably be wearing more makeup😆
Lol check my comment for a bit more information at least from a biological perspective, but there’s definitely some merit to your point about a matter of degree.
I disagree, however, with your comment “makeup is more attention grabbing.” If the makeup is significant enough to be attention grabbing it’s likely in a negative manner due to the “uncanny valley”.
Very interesting. You make a good point that there are some women who overdo it but I wouldn't say they look like a clown.. that seems like an exaggeration lol. Personally I don't understand the painted on eyebrows but then again I don't really know how to do anything more than just the basics.
I agree but that's what I meant. Regardless if it looked appealing or not it's still going to be attention grabbing 🙂
I think it’s because of a few reasons
1) makeup makes us look attractive but when we wear a LOT of it it can make us look less “human” and more like a cartoon or can look clownish (sorry ladies but I’ve been guilty of this myself)
2) many men worry about what a girl looks like underneath the makeup and if it’s going to be a drastic difference. Like they’re worried they’ll be attracted to the girl with makeup and then be she looks like a different person when she takes it off
3) some men just like the natural look. But then some like the “Instagram model” look. It’s a preference.
In my experience, most (not all) men really like the no-makeup makeup look the best. Like when we use makeup to enhance what we already have, not change our features.
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The picture of the example girl is clearly too much makeup. Truly beautiful girls do not have to use makeup at all and look much better without than with. Humans are attracted to natural human features. Not all that fake crap on your face. Have you ever seen contour videos? It's some nightmarish stuff. With the use of makeup, you could make a man look like a woman. Only unattractive girls NEED some use of makeup to cover up their features, kind of like guys with beards. Attractive girls only benefit from maybe a little eyeliner, enhancing their eyes.
Actually men gawk over me with make up on, without it I get no doors held open for me, with it on and my hair done nicely hanging down my back I was able to get a free soda from the 7 eleven guy and I had a guy even pay for my gas a month ago. Make up makes you look more put together and its made to enhance your natural beauty , most men can't tell if you have on blush or not. If you contoured or not. They see makeup done tastefully and think its "no make up". I honestly wear it because it makes me feel feminem and girly and put together.
I think it depends on the women's natural look. Some already look good without it.
@sarahemilyyy most look better with, there is a slim amount that look better without it.
Well if we're talking light makeup it's ok but like you said the beauty gurus are changing their face and sometimes their neck to look like a completely different person.
And there are some women of just cost themselves with it and act like their God's gift to me and wouldn't date anyone who's not at least an 8/10 "like them" but if someone were to splash a bucket of water on to their face they'd go from a high number to a low number. So basically it's like portraying yourself in a false way. So basically lying. Ugly guys have to accept they're ugly and have to work with what they were born with.
I love the fact a girl can have more than one visual character.
simply changing how her make up is, the accents etc, gives such style and changes.
from sweet and cute to daring and edgy.
then when you both finish for the day, it’s still just the person you woke up next to.
all for it and love the creativity it can give.
artistry
Because I don't. I can't think of a single woman I dated who looked better with makeup. I am not some internet troll who is talking hypothetically. My current lady likes to wear a lot of makeup and she likes to dye her hair.
This when I was attracted to her while she had no make up on and her hair was its natural color. But she does this to make herself feel good. I realize that now.
In their minds, they picture makeup as looking tacky and overdone, but when it's on someone's face in front of them, it actually looks nice and they see the whole picture and just think the girl looks good, but don't even know what she does or doesn't have on her face.
I feel like very few guys could actually look at a girl who's wearing makeup and be able to point out exactly what makeup items she has on and which features have been enhanced.
It's a form of lie, we want to know exactly what a date looks like, and we will either like that or move on.
Most makeup smells really horrible, to the point of literally gagging.
And if in a relationship, I don't want to taste lipstick, lip gloss, or makeup powder on her mouth when kissing.
Most applications of up makeup look bad.
For example, I don't like glossy lips, rosey cheeks, mascara goop, eyeliner, or whatever those things are in the corners of her eyes in that pic you posted.
Powdered skin also looks weird, and then you get extreme stuff like metallic blue eyelids or cherry bright red lips, and it's just a huge turn off, it looks like clown makeup.
There are aestethic exceptions mind you, like when women draw that redish scribble line stuff just under the eyes and across the nose to look like an anime character blushing, or when they use makeup to look like some fantasy character, but those are rarely pulled off well, are still a lie, and the makeup still has bad odor.
Why do so many women say they don't like not wearing make up? Ok sure to answer your question is we just simply prefer girls who don't wear make up. Just like we prefer to eat fruits without refined sugar in it.
"but makeup on the average girl is only used to enhance what’s already naturally there" yeah sure you can make that claim but is that really a fact? There had also been lots of cases where women are just insecure about their face so they put on some make up. The thing is no one likes to admit that one so no body would know what their real intentions are until this App came. I though they're doing it for themselves and not insecure.
Men don't mind make up, it's clown make up they don't like. And let's be honest a lot of women do look ridiculous. There's also something vacant about a woman who plasters it on, they always seem empty headed to me. It's as if their logic is women wear make up, therefore the more obvious my make up the more a woman I am. You can't really blame guys when they come across these girls.
Make up doesn’t bother me as long as she is still beautiful without it is what matters , sometimes girls will overdue it and you can’t really see the real her and then when you finally do she looks nothing like she did with the make up on , so that can be a turn off to most men , Guys prefer natural beauty over fake beauty
I prefer when girls don’t wear any makeup I think that’s the most attractive look. But I completely understand that for some girls makeup is basically just an accessory not necessarily being used to make themselves more attractive or hide facial imperfections and that’s fine too.
My favorite part of this conversation, most of the females either didn't bother to read, or just don't care what any guys had to say about them wearing makeup.
The first reply from a female is seriously "Bc they're liars." W. T. F?
Perfect example to explain why we don't even bother answering questions sometimes, what's the point.
I totally agree with you on that. Some guys say they like women with no makeup, but from what I have noticed, most men find women with subtle makeup the most attractive. My boyfriend also doesn't mind a some makeup as long as I still look like myself, which I do. For me it's about enhancing my features and not about changing my face - covering some imperfections, enhancing your eyes and lips and a bit of blush is not gonna turn you from a monster into a princess lol.
Because its a bold face lie. Its like getting change for a hundred and the next day you realize one of the $20 bills is fake. Its dishonest and makes me wonder what else she might have the capacity to lie about. If a guy wears a muscle suit and takes it off for sex, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? yeah cheated
Because makeup has gone from enhancing beauty to faking beauty. A bit of eyeliner and lipstick are fine but having makeup to the extent you can't tell what she really looks like is not good.
Also some girls saying that it helps improve confidence... I hate that. That's a terrible confidence booster. If fun is the motivation, then i guess it's cool. But again, the pic you posted, I can't say for sure that i understand how she actually looks like.
I assume that men speak about heavy makeup. The kind of makeup that morphs your features into something unrecognizable without it. However, make up that is done properly. That enhances one's natural features is something that is appreciated! Make up is there to enhance your beautiful features that were given to you. Not give you something you don't have.
I personally don't have that much of an issue with light eyeliner or eyeshadow, blush, lipstick, yknow whatever you want to put on to erase all your "imperfections" that I don't even notice. The problem starts when your whole skin color changes or you have so much makeup that it looks caked onto your face. If I smack you with a pillow and a small cloud appears, not good. I shouldn't be able to erase your whole personality/face with a wet wipe.
"Don't like too much" Isn't it obvious? It makes them look 'whorish.' I don't like big hoop earrings or miniskirts either. Why? It's common amongst prostitutes and strippers, I imagine that's what most men think of when they are put off by these things.
Why do you ask? Are we not allowed to have our own opinions on what is and isn't attractive anymore? That is certainly amusing.
Because makeup is not who you really are. With makeup, you enhance yoru looks, come to think of it, it's actaully deceitful. You are deceiving people with your beauty. In fact, pure natural is way more beautiful. I know women wear makeup because tehy are insecure, but there is no need to. You are beautiful as you are. It's about accepting your looks.
Personally, I thingk women without makeup are way more beautiful than women who are wearing makeup.
enhances like salt and pepper enhances a good piece of meat? right? But you are not a piece of meat and if it is already there... Have you heard the phrase, "If it is not broken don't fix it?" If makeup just enhances what you already have should guys wear makeup too? Should everyone wear makeup to bring out what they already have?
Because we'd like to recognize the girl taht we went in bed together the night before. And some ladies don't apply makeup to their faces, but so much stuff that ends up looking like stucco. Great artistic skill, but taht's more a mask than makeup.
I don't object to make-up but I do think a lot of women use far too much of it. This is particularly true for eye make-up. A lot of women use so much make-up it borders on making them look like a clown.
Mostly it’s not good. It can be like a fun once in a while thing, like getting an animal face painted on you during a festival or something. They mean it when they say they don’t like make up. What they want is to see the real girl and for her to be attractive. Simple.
Amy Schumer isn’t a comedian. She steals jokes and punchlines all the time https://youtu.be/4eDxjxVl8S0
I know she does. I don't even like her. It's just video that I'm trying to make a point with just unfortunately has Amy schumer in.
I doubt she even purchased this sketch herself
It just doesn't look good. Espacially when you overdo it.
Just look at the picture you added to this post, sure there is probably some sort of digitial filter added as well.
A lot of women are excessive with make up. They take it off and they look so different, but regardless, it makes you look artificial. It would look weird as fuck if men were to do the same thing because it doesn't like natural.
Usually because most women don't do it right.
Seriously, there is an art to everything. Just shotgunning makeup onto yourself doesn't mean you look presentable.
Makeup that enhances natural features is fine, but makeup that's just plastered over those natural features is unattractive, because you can't see the face underneath the makeup.
They lie, otherwise they would not chase women with make up. I also agree that mostly beauty gurus can change themself drastically which take you so many hours to do that. An average woman dont have time and money for this.
I don't like girls caking it on. Some girls know how to wear it and look good. Some don't even need it and wear only lipgloss and are beautiful without makeup. But some just pile it on like they are preparing for the circus act as a clown.
That just happened to me. I really liked her looks originally. She showed up with makeup on, i was turned off visually.. I wasn't sure at first who it was.. Just wow.. What did you do to yourself.. I heard her voice.. I really like her. It was hard to look into her eyes though. I was in shock. Looked. But i couldnt find the old vibe.. Killed the eye stare moments for us.. But I liked her so I didn't let it kill the whole moment.. Sad.
Take her to the beach for a first date and go for a swim. 😊 I don't think most mind but if they do they sure as hell will tell the girl.
It's not that men don't like makeup on women it's that women put too much makeup on.
When it completely changes your face or looks terrible (bright pink cheeks, black runy eyeliner, it make sense that someone would say they dont like it. The natural looking makeup on the other hand looks fine.
Just like so many women say they don't care about muscles on men or about their social status or bank account. So what did we learn today? The vast majority of both genders lie. The end.
Highlighting her beauty is fine.
Completely covering what is underneath like a coat of paint. Is ridiculous!
Like the ones that leave their face on the pillow in the mornings.
That’s why I sleep on my back with my head slightly turned! 😹
@On_cloud_wine Okay. That stuff is hard to get out of the pillow cases. Good reply! LOL
Mostly because when the makeup comes off, you get a whole new person who doesn't look nearly as good as the one you were attracted to in the first place.
Because it's not a true vision of what you actually look like
Yet they get attracted to women that wears makeup and look sexy over a girl that looks natural ✨💕
I have no idea why, as I like a woman to wear some make-up.
I think because we've all had the experience of seeing a girl take her make-up off and look like a completely different person.
Most men hate excessive makeup..
Light to no make up is loved by most man.
I know one reason is because it doesn't show thier "true appearance".
I'm not a fan of someone painting their face unless it's for entertainment, like a clown or someone on a Rupaul show
A lot of things, namely the time required to get the grease paint ready killing a good chunk of an evening. It's superfluous and subconsciously dishonest.
Because a lot of Girls where so much make up you can't see the real face anymore.
We don't mind make up but don't out on so much you look different with out
Photoshoping an extra zero on my paycheck is also just enhancing what is already there... doesn't make it an ethical way to attract better partners to my bed.
Personally, I think it is common sense to look for the real person not for a person hiding behind a mask of beauty.
But still a little bit of make up doesn't hurt and would be nice.
Personally, do like make up on women but I also kinda hate it when it gets overboard. Too much make up makes them look plastic and thats unattractive. Use the make up to enhance whats already there, not to entirely change it.
A lot of men nowadays seem to prefer the natural look maybe we overdid if 🤷♀️
They assume you hide Greek godesses underneath
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You think they'd appreciate the effort :P
No. You would think girls would appreciate the effort to collect magic cards. For some reason girls don't. 😂
@bamesjond0069 did somebody say magic cards?
@IveGotNoName did someone not learn what an analogy is in school?
@bamesjond0069 ... dude chill... I wasn't criticizing you...
My comment touched on this briefly. Makeup use is costly in both time and resources, thus women using both to be more attractive is indicative of the costs their willing to incur to attract the opposite sex and can lead men to believe they’re willing to be “courted” and as such can garner more men’s attention.
Yea, I have all of my older brothers cards
I think a lot of times it has to do with the amount of makeup
Even though it can help highlight a girls natural beauty
TOO MUCH of it can sometimes downgrade it.
I think a lot of men are very shit at telling whether someone has makeup on
I think it’s a clumsy way of them saying they think we are pretty without it.
Because they don't know what they're talking about lol
I don't like seeing a mask on any woman, and all that makeup is an over glorified mask. I like a woman's natural beauty.
because it’s a face but you ladies use makeup as a mask.
I feel like the lady is hiding from me or lying to me...
because sometimes them disappointed when seeing her without it , the differences can be so signifcant
i think this can be solved if she is willing to always wear makeup , 24/7
Most men would rather the natural look of his woman. Not all make uppy
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