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Gentlemen: The ONE key that could help make approaching women a lot easier (Page 3)
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You should rename this to "How to get friend zoned"
You should be friendly and keep the conversation casual but you also have to flirt and make it clear that you want to be more than just friends from the start.
@shacodraco Took the words right out of my mouth. Bravo!
This take is driving me bananas!
I've been waiting so long to say that...
haha well i hope u enjoyed that moment :P
If you approach a woman as a friend, that's all you will ever be to her, generally speaking.
As a woman talking from experience, i respectfully disagree.
Umm befriend her today and BOLDLY make your MOVE tomorrow #WorksAlot lol ^_^
what he said ^ friendship is a great foundation.
Not true. Some of us ONLY date men we're friends with 1st.
If you want a date, you make your intentions known, otherwise you end up as friends.
i dont dispute that, but I'm referring to utilising friendship as a foundation, not a limit.
If I don't ask her for her number how I'm I going to get hold of her again?
I usually solve this conandrum by asking for her kik if she doesn't have it its e mail
hehe, do u think romance didn't exist before phones were invented? or is that just sooo impossible to fathom now? :P
The digital age ruined everything😟
it did, didn't it? =/ but hey it's cool sometimes :D
The challenging part is how will you guys keep on touch with each other if you're both not asking for each others numbers?
Looks like my approach is correct then. I totally agree with a lot of what you have to say. However, there are some points I do not agree with and some points that I don't think you understand why guys do what they do.
excellent. I'm glad u can relate to it.
lol, that's ok. thanks for ur input =]
Firstly the thing about women approaching men I think that women should if they want to but I certainly don't think they should be obligated to. It can be nice to have the woman approach sometimes and can make her look very sexy. However, I do believe that that choice is hers.
I do however don't like it when guys call women "My girl" or even worse "My B*tch". The problem I have with this is I feel in a relationship you do not own someone and that is speaking like you own the person. This also goes for women that do the same about men. This is just my personal view of it but it is how I feel.
i never said women didn't have the choice. the take however, is about men approaching.
i also dont know if ur agreeing or disagreeing with me because i never condoned those terms.
Haha I know you never said they can't I was just mentioning the fact that sometimes it is nice when they do. Like I told you already I agree with somethings you said but not all. I don't think women should be obligated to approach men but men shouldn't be either that is all I am saying. I personally would love to approach women but it really is not as easy as many girls think it is even when you use the correct tactics.
I agree with your comment about it being weird just approaching a random woman you have never seen or talked to in your life and the very first thing you do is ask for her number. I can see why women would wonder if they looked different would you still be interested and think the guy only likes her for her looks and nothing else. That is why I have never done that.
As for your 2nd point about it lacking consideration I agree and this is actually another reason I don't just ask random girls for their number in the way you describe. In terms of your 3rd point that is the very approach I try with girls talking about hobbies and getting her to talk. I have actually asked a girl out for coffee and I felt she was not honest with me making up excuses on why she can't go with me instead of just letting me know she was not interested in me in the first place. I know not all women are like this and you will always meet women that are like this but I just thought I would share that with you. The idea of approaching women as a friend first before dating them I feel there are strong opinions on this both ways. Some people will say what you say and I can see that point and other people will say you should be upfront and honest at the start.
As for your "10 Tips To Approach Women As A Friend" this is what I think
1. I 100% agree with this everyone likes positive, nice and friendly people. Women included so I agree.
2. I 100% agree with this because who wants to talk to a person that is frowning, scowling or has a bad attitude.
3. I kind of agree and disagree with this one. I agree with it on the point of that you should become her friend in a wanting to be her friend way not with the only motive being to get her in bed. However, what I don't agree with is that I think in some aspects as I feel you have said one thing and then the other a bit.
4. Yes actually it is a lot harder than most of you girls think. You would be amazed at the number of girls that rude, crude and just strait out bitches when we introduce ourselves and of course that is going to knock a man's confidence in introducing himself to future women. We get random scowls, frowns, told we are creeps for saying Hi, told to fuck off and drama from approaching
5. I agree with this. Too many compliments especially when you have just met the girl comes across as weird. I agree with your 2 at the most rule.
6. I agree with not asking for her number the first time. However, I do have a question what if you are in a situation you want to get to know the girl more but know you won't see her again or loose contact with her if you don't ask the first time. I am not criticising this one just asking? Yes it would feel good having a girl ask for my number.
7. I 100% agree with this one and this is always what I have done with women to. I have pretty much done it for the reasons you have mentioned and to stop misunderstandings.
8. I completely agree with this to. I don't get how people think they have a chance with someone if they don't give basic respect. I agree with chivalry and I also agree with what you said about if a woman has a problem with it then that is her problem. It is not sexist I agree.
9. I 100% agree with this. I find it as sexy as anything when women are like this to me so I can see how women do. This is how I like to treat women.
10. I agree with this. I feel some guys take it way to fast. I like to take it at the speed the girl is comfortable with. However, I also do agree with the fact a girl has to be reasonable at the same time with how long it takes her.
I thought the one key on approaching women would be walking in a straight line...
essentially yes, but it's easier said than done isn't it? =]
going along with your perspective, let's say the take talks about an effective method to build a foundation AFTER u walk that line.
Easier said than done especially on a night out... inebriation can affect the approach which could render the subsequent approach reproachful...
I think a foundation is important, but sometimes guys work on a presentation too much, it becomes too rehearsed and you lose yourself in a role that you hope will be effective, in just being yourself... but that's just my view...
yep, thanks for ur view.
Yes, inebriation could affect one's approach to women which would make a subsequent approach reproachful. But sometimes guys can rehearse too much and work on an approach, losing themselves in a routine or role... I like your take though, with some good tips on what guys should be doing anyway, whether it's to impress a girl or not... I mean, if they don't normally do this, she's in for a rude shock, yeah?
Dammit! I thought my previous comment went missing so I typed it out again... oh, well, I enhanced it a tad
that's alright, yeah i do understand what ur saying. thanks for expressing ur opinion in a civil manner. i respect that.
appreciate ur feedback.
No problem, @justbanANNAz... it was a good read
You seem to be under the impression we are living in the 1950's. If a woman expects a guy to to all that she will only get to choose from the guys other, more forward and direct women don't want. Times have changed and tables have turned, if you are a desirable man you don't have to do anything but show your feathers and the girls come to you.
if this is how u interpreted my take, that's your decision, however thank u for reminding me of the time we live in.
Great take. I think there's a lot of thruth in what you're saying :)
glad u liked it. thanks for reading.
No wonder girls dont like me!
i always say things like
"Excuse me, but you look absolutely stunning today." :(
Or i will say "Woah!, sorry, your beauty caught me off guard. its absolutely captivating!" :(
never works...
Yeah i think u could just keep it a little more casual as i mentioned. Im so stupid i didn't put a better example. This is just a guide though:
"Hi, my names... . I was just wondering if you'd like to go for a coffee sometime. I hope thats ok with you."
I prefer guys to just be honest. If they only like me because they think i'm cute then it let's me know to take things slowly and actually be the one who checks to see if we are compatible.
I'm heree to talk about gender roles and say that women should approach more.
Lol ok nice take, thanks.
funny.
@MissNowhere hey, I'm fart... I hope I'm not being too forward but you're really cute and hope to get to know you better. Soo Netflix and Chill sometime?
Hahaha XD
I'll think about it. 😌
P/s: nice take, banANNAz! 😉
@MissNowhere that means no ; (
Lies! That means maybe, I mean, I just met you 😮😱
@MissNowhere and this is crazy :o
Gosh, you're so predictable. 😛
@MissNowhere I lower my guard when it comes to you ;x
Hahahaha "Netflix and chill Bae?"
@ConsultantIsBack LOL that's what's in right now I thought
Not sheriff serious or not?
@ConsultantIsBack serious!
Lol no brother that's for tinder losers that don't know how to plan a real date. I mean chilling is good for friends or down the road in my opinion but not first couple dates. Nomsayin?
@ConsultantIsBack :o accept me as you student sensei!
Bruhhh teach ME please
Is that Kyle? He's so grown now :O
@cookiesandcream yeah a little over 1 and half years old now ; (
@ConsultantIsBack naa bruh, you teach meee :o
Netflix and chill? *facepalm* LOL u silly.
@missnowhere haha thanks ;)
I love this... literally love it!!!
thank you :)
How can you hang out if you don't ask for each others numbers after you make plans? What if something comes up or changes or she forgets the place or something?
how do u think people managed before phones were invented? I'm merely advising u not to ask for it from the first time because it comes off creepy. not never to ask at all.
it's just advice, if it doesn't work for u forget about it! =]
Great take. I can totally see where you are coming from. I have ran into some pretty mean girls before. That honestly is why I've never dated much. Because I'm afraid i'll end up used or humiliated like in the past when I was in high school.
Interesting Take, I like the idea :)
thanks man, much appreciated.
You're welcome :)
Good thing I gave up on women, no hassle and heart breaking on my part
no problem. good luck.
Nice take but it doesn't really apply to all... but have a point
nothing ever applies to all. thank u =]
I tried the friendship thing but I did not work for me, I ended up being friendzoned and she went with the other guy who courted her, I did not court her my mistake :(
i think that this method i listed isn't supposed to work for everyone, but it can very successful when done right, and balanced properly. if u leave the friendship thing to last for too long, sure you may end up getting friend zoned, but if ur timing with this is good, you'll b fine.
Yeah I believe your statement, it's just I'm not lucky with girls I think. I'm just used in getting hurt that I don't expect happy ending every time I like someone that much
thats why women should not give dating advice. if you talk to her about weather etc guess what will not get wet. if you approach them that friendly you become their friend not lover.
i really should have checked that anons aren't allowed to opine here.
there's a bunch of lost cases here who have no idea how to interpret this advice.
no your advice just fails miserably. girl... you DONT KNOW how women are approached and its normal. since you are a woman. there are not universal principles for all women but you got it almost all wrong.
chances are you wouldn't even date that guy if he approached you. and everything you say is relative. for example patience. if she requires patience and i believe she is worthy of investing my time on her i would. if not, i'd do a quicky with her in 10 minutes in the club's bathroom. men have the potential to do that and they are not oblidged to be the tamed white knights that you promote.
LOL yes i dont know how women are approached.
and if u actually thought i assumed there r universal principles that apply to women ur an idiot.
please fuck off. ur wasting my time and yours.
yes yes truth hurts. and these are your words i didn't say you implied it. as for the advice it would fail with most women. glad you admit you dont know even if its sarcasm. without presense (i need a book to explain that to a woman), good cockiness, nongiveafuckiness, social calibration and manipulative skills and leadership a man gets nowhere with women. (manipulation not in a sinister way but knowing hw to take advantage of the circumstances or create them when needed and lead in the righ way). and then there are countless of sub-examples, sub-skills and subtleties a man has to learn in-game.
What's wrong with falling in love and having babies asap?
nothing. if u wanna do it, do it.