um, I always find it so ironic how a girl will say "men blame women so much!" while she is sitting there blaming men ! XD Look you hypocrite, girls these days are 100 times ruder than in older generations, so its perfectly natural for guys to think of them as bitches. If you travel around the world to other countries, say europe or so, the women there are much more ladylike and respectful, and deserve being treated kindly. Here there is absolutely no chivalry because girls DONT deserve it.
In a sense, girls are just as superficial as guys are. They want the confident, funny guy who knows just the right thing to say and do. The problem is, this guy doesn't really exist, it's a facade. Just like those hot girls that are actually complete bitches under their gorgeous exterior. Superficiality goes beyond wanting someone solely for their appearance; it has to do with genuinely caring about them as a person versus what they can do for you.
3. (numbers?) Your female friends are jerks, then.
5. If all you look for in a girlfriend is a piece of arm candy, you get what you deserve when she doesn't value you for the person you are, either. People should not hurt the people they sleep with because of anger over things that someone else did to them. They should confront the person who hurt them in the first place instead of being cowards and taking their hurt out on someone else instead. That's just completely pathetic and childish.
Wow, I definitely never thought of myself as a feminazi. An anti-feminist, yes. But people like to throw around concepts they don't understand.
Jaded? Maybe I am jaded... by jaded men who fail to admit that they are the ones with the problem. They rely on their own perception of experiences as a fact and fail to look at the situation objectively. They not only make assumptions about women but assumptions about other men too. Classic.
I'm jaded af lol by I know I'm the one with the problem. I've never fit in anywhere and at this age I don't think I'll ever really lift this sadness. If I do fit in somewhere, I probably won't even know how to act. Always being the fool is tiring. Especially with everyone measuring your manhood by the women you bring. I had a girlfriend once, I was made responsible for everything she did and when she cheated on me I was having a seizure. Tried to relationships after that but the wound is too deep. I push them away before they have a chance to hurt me. Life sucks and I quit
Really?!? You don't think women go out on "dates" with guys where the guy pays for everything only for them to hear "sorry, I had a nice time with you but I just don't feel anything, lets just be friends..." really, you don't think there are women out there that purposefully take advantage of men to get some free dinner and drinks... there is even a term for them "dinner whore" YOU might be the exception to the rule, YOU might be different but the majority of women are NOT you.
No one is telling you that you can't go after whatever girl you want. But if you're looking for a long term relationship, then yes, there is such a thing as the wrong girl.
And I'm not expecting anyone to have the same values as me. I agree that it's not right for anyone to blame the opposite sex for their problems. Didn't I say so in the article?
P.S. Like I said before, this blog isn't for people looking for a one night stand so getting laid doesn't really play into it.
Very interesting comments. I agree with most everything you say here. I have know a woman hater in my time, and it is a scary thing. Some man in the current generation do objective woman with no regard to their heart or mind. Sometimes woman knowing agree to this game, sometime they are duped. There are always reasons to dislike people, to treat them one way or another. A past bad relationship, or whatever. It takes a real man to choose to be honorable no matter what. Return evil with kindness.
KillerrMike, I'm not willing to put the blame entirely on men and their deficiencies. I do think that the target is has a lot to do with the success of the approach. And in many cases, the approach fails because they're going for the wrong girls.
That isn't to say that the right girls are prudish. They just aren't trying to trade off sex and sex appeal for attention and favours. The right girl will sleep with you if she wants, but for the right reasons (i.e. she genuinely likes you as a person)
Jonny, I think it's normal to have bouts of low self esteem. Most girls think they are undeserving of a good guy until they gain enough confidence. You just need to find someone you're comfortable with.
Ahotdog, it must be nice to know everything about a person by reading their username. Pray, where can I learn those amazing skills? Honestly, all I can say to you is (a) get over her already and (b) try reading the article again if you think you can stomach it.
Jdcpa, I'd hope that it wasn't a waste of time because that is exactly the audience I'm directing it at. At some point, I'm hoping a guy will read this and maybe venture far out to think that it may be written for them.
So HELLO JADED GUY, IF YOU ARE READING THIS, THIS ARTICLE IS FOR YOU. I'M NOT WRITING IT FOR MYSELF. PLEASE READ IT AND CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY THAT THIS PERSON I'M DESCRIBING MAY BE YOU.
Yeah it's me. Fuckin aye I'm doing bad. I don't deserve those women, but I don't deserve the things that crushed me. My organs are dying now, so when people say "not all women," I will never really know :(
I don't think I'm contradicting myself. I did admit that -some- women are to be blamed. The ones who flirt with you and refuse to go on a date with you (which is rare anyway) have problems. But like I said in the article, it's your fault if you keep chasing them.
If you want to blame anyone for your unhappiness, this is who it is: a small group of heartless women and... yourself. Women in general are not to blame. We're all out there looking for good guys too. We're not your enemies.
I have never hated women or men. I just do not respect people who play games and I prefer logical behavior to irrational. Not at all gender specific.
btw I do not spend all my time waiting for guys to say I am pretty or w/e. Some people may feel affirmed that way but to me it is antithetical top true affirmation. No one can make you feel more you. you complete yourself with your ethics beliefs actions work. Share who you are with the world. Primping & attention- Smoke & mirrors.
3. Agree. However, sex drive is huge. No divorce lawyer has ever heard, "The sex is AWESOME, but I want a divorce." Again, sexual attraction is huge, which is why I never get upset with a woman who is upset that she's been rejected provided her sadness or anger is controlled.
By the way let me add to Point 3): Even good girls reject guys for fun, you even state on your statement of "Moderate" attention. This not only applies to "Bad" conceited girls. I bet you have done it in Clubs or somewhere else, come on. Trust me even "good girls" abuse attention some times.
4) Its a lot of Misandrist misconception specially the last sentence whoo. The fact that some guys are angry or frustrated at women or some women, it doesn't mean we are going to hunt down women just for the fun of it and to get some vengeance?. Probably the biggest Missandrist statement I have ever seen. By the way Players are not Jaded men at all another mistake. Its actually really rare to see a man to get laid just for vengeance, we are not like you galls, we don't mix emotions like that...
I don't know about you but there is too much things wrong in this article. First the Tone of the article, its looks as if you were yelling at men...angry much?. 1) Its a huge generalization and its a Misandrist misconception, that is not true at all, or else ugly girls would never date or get married. 2) Is also a lie, men usually never think are victims unless the relationship never ended up properly and that is a two way street. Its the guy's AND girl's fault...
But when I have a handful of people telling me why they're surprised that I don't have a nice girlfriend yet, and all the ones that I just ask out tell me that they won't even try because they're not sure what will happen, or they're "waiting on God's timing", then what in the world am I supposed to do? I'm not even a player - I'm just trying to get a nice girl with a serious moral foundation to go on a single stinking date with me! Is there something wrong with that? What is going awry?
Okay. I agree with a lot of the points on here. I'm one of these "jaded" men, and after being rejected several times by several different girls of different social statuses and appearances, I'm just confused as to what I'm doing wrong. And, yes, I understand very well that I'm not perfect; no one is... (continued)
You put a lot of effort into that article and although a few parts were emotionally charged, most of it was logical. Thanks for arguing logically. I'm not a kid anymore, so I've had my ups and downs. Women are women and men are men. Hormones and genetics won't change. However what has changed is our society. That is why so many men are so bitter. Feminism (which is made of a minority of hateful women) has successfully demasculinized our society and put women up on a pedal stool.
Wowz1, if you honestly believe that you're not doing anything wrong then all I can say is to seek patience.
Unfortunately, we don't live in a world where we're guaranteed to find a mate. It's kind of like looking for a job that you have all the credentials for- you don't understand why you're not getting hired. Maybe there's someone else more qualified, maybe all the positions are taken, maybe there aren't any positions at all.
You just need to be able to wait for your lucky break.
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um, I always find it so ironic how a girl will say "men blame women so much!" while she is sitting there blaming men ! XD Look you hypocrite, girls these days are 100 times ruder than in older generations, so its perfectly natural for guys to think of them as bitches. If you travel around the world to other countries, say europe or so, the women there are much more ladylike and respectful, and deserve being treated kindly. Here there is absolutely no chivalry because girls DONT deserve it.
Both genders suck.
In a sense, girls are just as superficial as guys are. They want the confident, funny guy who knows just the right thing to say and do. The problem is, this guy doesn't really exist, it's a facade. Just like those hot girls that are actually complete bitches under their gorgeous exterior. Superficiality goes beyond wanting someone solely for their appearance; it has to do with genuinely caring about them as a person versus what they can do for you.
3. (numbers?) Your female friends are jerks, then.
5. If all you look for in a girlfriend is a piece of arm candy, you get what you deserve when she doesn't value you for the person you are, either. People should not hurt the people they sleep with because of anger over things that someone else did to them. They should confront the person who hurt them in the first place instead of being cowards and taking their hurt out on someone else instead. That's just completely pathetic and childish.
I fucking hate her.
Wow, I definitely never thought of myself as a feminazi. An anti-feminist, yes. But people like to throw around concepts they don't understand.
Jaded? Maybe I am jaded... by jaded men who fail to admit that they are the ones with the problem. They rely on their own perception of experiences as a fact and fail to look at the situation objectively. They not only make assumptions about women but assumptions about other men too. Classic.
I'm jaded af lol by I know I'm the one with the problem. I've never fit in anywhere and at this age I don't think I'll ever really lift this sadness. If I do fit in somewhere, I probably won't even know how to act. Always being the fool is tiring. Especially with everyone measuring your manhood by the women you bring. I had a girlfriend once, I was made responsible for everything she did and when she cheated on me I was having a seizure. Tried to relationships after that but the wound is too deep. I push them away before they have a chance to hurt me. Life sucks and I quit
Really?!? You don't think women go out on "dates" with guys where the guy pays for everything only for them to hear "sorry, I had a nice time with you but I just don't feel anything, lets just be friends..." really, you don't think there are women out there that purposefully take advantage of men to get some free dinner and drinks... there is even a term for them "dinner whore" YOU might be the exception to the rule, YOU might be different but the majority of women are NOT you.
No one is telling you that you can't go after whatever girl you want. But if you're looking for a long term relationship, then yes, there is such a thing as the wrong girl.
And I'm not expecting anyone to have the same values as me. I agree that it's not right for anyone to blame the opposite sex for their problems. Didn't I say so in the article?
P.S. Like I said before, this blog isn't for people looking for a one night stand so getting laid doesn't really play into it.
Very interesting comments. I agree with most everything you say here. I have know a woman hater in my time, and it is a scary thing. Some man in the current generation do objective woman with no regard to their heart or mind. Sometimes woman knowing agree to this game, sometime they are duped. There are always reasons to dislike people, to treat them one way or another. A past bad relationship, or whatever. It takes a real man to choose to be honorable no matter what. Return evil with kindness.
We have to be stoic. People are too creative and malicious. Especially when it comes to women and their responsibilities.
KillerrMike, I'm not willing to put the blame entirely on men and their deficiencies. I do think that the target is has a lot to do with the success of the approach. And in many cases, the approach fails because they're going for the wrong girls.
That isn't to say that the right girls are prudish. They just aren't trying to trade off sex and sex appeal for attention and favours. The right girl will sleep with you if she wants, but for the right reasons (i.e. she genuinely likes you as a person)
What would be another reason? lol
Jonny, I think it's normal to have bouts of low self esteem. Most girls think they are undeserving of a good guy until they gain enough confidence. You just need to find someone you're comfortable with.
Ahotdog, it must be nice to know everything about a person by reading their username. Pray, where can I learn those amazing skills? Honestly, all I can say to you is (a) get over her already and (b) try reading the article again if you think you can stomach it.
Jdcpa, I'd hope that it wasn't a waste of time because that is exactly the audience I'm directing it at. At some point, I'm hoping a guy will read this and maybe venture far out to think that it may be written for them.
So HELLO JADED GUY, IF YOU ARE READING THIS, THIS ARTICLE IS FOR YOU. I'M NOT WRITING IT FOR MYSELF. PLEASE READ IT AND CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY THAT THIS PERSON I'M DESCRIBING MAY BE YOU.
Thought I might as well give it a shot :)
Yeah it's me. Fuckin aye I'm doing bad. I don't deserve those women, but I don't deserve the things that crushed me. My organs are dying now, so when people say "not all women," I will never really know :(
I don't think I'm contradicting myself. I did admit that -some- women are to be blamed. The ones who flirt with you and refuse to go on a date with you (which is rare anyway) have problems. But like I said in the article, it's your fault if you keep chasing them.
If you want to blame anyone for your unhappiness, this is who it is: a small group of heartless women and... yourself. Women in general are not to blame. We're all out there looking for good guys too. We're not your enemies.
I have never hated women or men. I just do not respect people who play games and I prefer logical behavior to irrational. Not at all gender specific.
btw I do not spend all my time waiting for guys to say I am pretty or w/e. Some people may feel affirmed that way but to me it is antithetical top true affirmation. No one can make you feel more you. you complete yourself with your ethics beliefs actions work. Share who you are with the world. Primping & attention- Smoke & mirrors.
3. Agree. However, sex drive is huge. No divorce lawyer has ever heard, "The sex is AWESOME, but I want a divorce." Again, sexual attraction is huge, which is why I never get upset with a woman who is upset that she's been rejected provided her sadness or anger is controlled.
By the way let me add to Point 3): Even good girls reject guys for fun, you even state on your statement of "Moderate" attention. This not only applies to "Bad" conceited girls. I bet you have done it in Clubs or somewhere else, come on. Trust me even "good girls" abuse attention some times.
4) Its a lot of Misandrist misconception specially the last sentence whoo. The fact that some guys are angry or frustrated at women or some women, it doesn't mean we are going to hunt down women just for the fun of it and to get some vengeance?. Probably the biggest Missandrist statement I have ever seen. By the way Players are not Jaded men at all another mistake. Its actually really rare to see a man to get laid just for vengeance, we are not like you galls, we don't mix emotions like that...
I don't know about you but there is too much things wrong in this article. First the Tone of the article, its looks as if you were yelling at men...angry much?. 1) Its a huge generalization and its a Misandrist misconception, that is not true at all, or else ugly girls would never date or get married. 2) Is also a lie, men usually never think are victims unless the relationship never ended up properly and that is a two way street. Its the guy's AND girl's fault...
But when I have a handful of people telling me why they're surprised that I don't have a nice girlfriend yet, and all the ones that I just ask out tell me that they won't even try because they're not sure what will happen, or they're "waiting on God's timing", then what in the world am I supposed to do? I'm not even a player - I'm just trying to get a nice girl with a serious moral foundation to go on a single stinking date with me! Is there something wrong with that? What is going awry?
Okay. I agree with a lot of the points on here. I'm one of these "jaded" men, and after being rejected several times by several different girls of different social statuses and appearances, I'm just confused as to what I'm doing wrong. And, yes, I understand very well that I'm not perfect; no one is... (continued)
You put a lot of effort into that article and although a few parts were emotionally charged, most of it was logical. Thanks for arguing logically. I'm not a kid anymore, so I've had my ups and downs. Women are women and men are men. Hormones and genetics won't change. However what has changed is our society. That is why so many men are so bitter. Feminism (which is made of a minority of hateful women) has successfully demasculinized our society and put women up on a pedal stool.
Wowz1, if you honestly believe that you're not doing anything wrong then all I can say is to seek patience.
Unfortunately, we don't live in a world where we're guaranteed to find a mate. It's kind of like looking for a job that you have all the credentials for- you don't understand why you're not getting hired. Maybe there's someone else more qualified, maybe all the positions are taken, maybe there aren't any positions at all.
You just need to be able to wait for your lucky break.