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It'd be more cool can't tell with the little flirting
i dont care personally, but yeah guys want to feel desired too
I only wan't my girl to make the first move so that she doesn't feel pressured or forced to do things she doesn't want to.
Yes of course its always easier of the other person makes the first move than having to worry about making the first move yourself and it being the wrong move or being rejected.
I think that would be anyone though!!
I used to always make the first move. Now I exclusively wait for guys to make the first move. It makes you believe that he really want you when he chases after you.
What if the guy thinks the same thing? What if he thinks "she doesn't really want me"?
Well then we won't date will we? Lol. I like a man that goes for the pounce, not quitters.
I just never understood the mentality of *not* going after the thing you like. I can guarantee that your sexist ideals are hurting your chances.
I'm not being sexist, I've gone after men before. I just would like for a man to come after me for once. And my "chances" don't bother me, because dating isn't my priority.
"I like a man that goes for the pounce, not quitters."
Clearly, you're a quitter yourself
If you say so.
You're the one who admitted it, but ok
I would much prefer it if chicks made the first move. They don't, but it would make life easier if they just let a dude know they were interested in the most direct way possible.
Thats not unattractive?
Desperate?
No, it shows initiative and desire, which is a fantastic feeling. It's incredibly refreshing to have someone just straight up tell you that they're into you, no games, no second guessing whether or not you should make a move or attempt anything. Clear signals and direct words are the best.
well yes... why should it always be us? #Equality? isn't that what feminists want? it passes through littles things like this too
I hope not. I mean, I can make the first move, sure. But I am old school. I like when a guy asks me out.
do you wait until marriage, cook and clean for your man, obey him? I mean, you said you're old school.
lol no. I meant the old way of asking a girl out. but you understand what you want to understand ;)
so you're just old school when it benefits you. that's called being selfish.
yeah call me that. and I said I can make the first move. but does the guy deserve that. but who are you to judge me? and why do you reply my answer? to judge me... good move.
so what makes you think you deserve it while the guy doesn't?
if I don't deserve, then he won't ask me out, of course. it works both ways. don't worry, @ineverpayfordates, I do pay for my own.
lol I have no issue with paying for dates, I just chose the name to piss of a few entitled princesses here on GAG. Granted, most first dates I had were initiated and paid for by the female part but I always reciprocated.
so why don't you equally ask guys out then? I don't understand all the special snowflakes on GAG who believe they deserve better than men. I really don't. Please enlighten me. lol
I didn't say that. I didn't say I deserve everything. Guys would decide if I deserve that or not. I respect men who respect me. But let me ask you something, have you ever been touched in public places? have you ever been asked out and then with the nastiest words, been asked for sex like you're a prostitute? have you ever been cheated, because the partner thought it's absolutely ok? have you ever been accused of cheating just because the other girls gave you attention, but you weren't interested? have you? would you still think every guy deserve to be asked out if you were me? I repeat, I do respect men, a lot of them are very nice. But after some experiences, a man has to be nice to me and respect me. I am very precautious now. That's why I said "do the guy deserve that? ". I am not just waiting for him to do everything for me. I have a lot to offer as well if he treats me well. In a relationship we are equal.
I understand your rationale but I don't understand the conclusions you draw. do you really for a moment think that a guy who's "alpha" enough to approach you will not be also "alpha" enough to touch you and use you for sex? abusers and bad boys also ask out girls and pay for them. waiting for the guy to make the first move will definitely not filter out those guys, in fact it will attract them because they see passive women as easy prey.
doesn't it make much more sense to go after more calm guys who let you initiate but don't use you for sex? be smart about it.
I like it when the man asks me out. What is bad about it? It's something I appreciate and like. You like it when the woman asks you out. I don't think it's bad what you like. I am not judging you, so please don't judge me. After all why do you care what I like? It's not like we would date. You are dating the women you like and I am dating the guys I like.
Oh, and that's why I insist to pay for myself. To not be treated like I have something to do for him in exchange.
there's nothing wrong with liking it. I understand why you like it. It makes you feel appreciated, I know that feeling. lol It just sounded in the beginning like you were trying to be selfish.
It was nice talking to you, although you made me angry in the beginning for judging me lol. But, you seem to know what you want.😊 Maybe you have been mistreated by some girls. I've been mistreated by guys, but I still respect them, because I don't generalise.
lol sorry. No, I have never been mistreated by girls, quite the opposite. I've had tremendous luck with girls. But tbh I've lost a lot of respect for women ever since I joined GAG and similar sites and actually read how entitled and selfish some of them are when they are free to speak their minds.
haha I get your point. I am glad you've never been mistreated. Yes, you are right, some girls are "princesses", there is no doubt. Let me tell you that some guys on GaG are mean and disrespectful too. I got used to that already lol. And I am here for 3 years, because this is the second account... so, I've seen a lot.
yes, that is certainly true. there are a lot of mean men on here and out there, too. What is different though is the entitlement of some women. I mean, no doubt there are piece of shit men who want to use women for sex. but I've never seen a question here on GAG like "She didn't put out on the first date. Should I dump her?". But I've very often seen questions like "He didn't pay. Should I dump him?"... Men know they are assholes and they know it's wrong to use women for sex. They don't ask such questions because they are aware that it's wrong. Women who are bitches and expect to be paid for often times don't even realize that their expectations are wrong, they actually believe that they are entitled to it and that what they expect is right. That is a very striking difference I have observed here on GAG, which is why I have lost so much respect for women.
I get your point, there are some girls like that. But not all of them and you know this very well.
yeah I do :) And I'm happy that normal girls like you exist, they make life a lot more enjoyable. :D
Well, thank you! 😊
You're welcome. :)
I'm sorry but I have to go now, see you and stay safe. :)
Ok. :)
I think so, I approach guys just for kicks when I go out and they seem glad to get the attention.
Considering that women typically have far superior social skills, it actually makes a lot of sense.
yes, because if we make the first move and we read you wrong we look like idiots.
No, no patience for that now.
If she's single and i feel interest, annd if im ready... i just go full power.
well yeah, isn't that obvious, guys are much more likely to get rejected so if a girl shows interest in a clear way it makes our life much easier
That's not surprising at all. I think that most people, regardless of gender, prefer the other person to make the first move.
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Well, I think if Nina made the first move, you would be dead.
It's a huge turn on and I It when the girl makes the first move
Normally I make the first move. But to expect it is just lame XD
I'm way too shy to make a move. and I like it when a guy makes the first move. Means they're in control and I like it
So you do you renounce feminism and believe men should "MAN UP" and be in control in a relationship?
nah I'm saying girls can do whatever but when it comes to me I would never I'm just too shy
Do you think that guy in the corner you've been eyeing is not shy to approach you too, but he has to summon up courage because he is a man, and he is expected to initiate. I do not believe the trait of courage is something lacking in anybody, everyone can summon it and find it.
I'll ask again, do you renounce feminism that preaches absolute equality or prefer being a traditional woman who is treated specially by being asked out and paid for on dates?
you shouldn't say that. My last girlfriend was extremely shy to the point that she could barely talk to new people, or even just close friends. You'll be at the will of whoever happens to ask you out, which will probably end badly. she asked me out anyways after I chatted with her a bit, and although I didn't ask her number because I missed the chance and worried about being creepy, she found my number and asked me out then. we had a nice year or so, but unfortunately we held completely different core values.
No matter how you take it is more esy for a girl to hunt guys then reverse.
Why?
Some study shows that most girls can be more acurate in reading body language.
Yeah cause honesty women can read men better then men can read woman and it's still special if a girl ask the guy.