Are girls surprised no guys approach anymore?

[Anonymous]

I think it makes sense that guys would stop approaching/ flirting with girls with the way they are... If you keep trying something and getting grilled every single time... You eventually jus give up and think "fuck it, what's the point"
We get called creeps or pervs, or jus down right disrespected every time, unless we're 10/10 chads with perfect personality and 10/10 game,

So we jus gave upBut then at the same time I was watching a video from a girl the other day about how "men are weak" if they're too scared to approach, or that were feminine and not masculine if we're "Afraid of rejection." And woman should not have to do the approaching, I don't think it's that we're afraid of it.. it's that were almost guaranteed it... And if we can avoid a negative feeling.. we will... If the chances of success was 5/10 I think guys would approach more.. but since it isn't, I can't blame guys for not bothering to approach anymore

Yes I'm surprised

No, it's time expected

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To be expected*

[Ez-Bri-Z]

I'm sorry but guys aren't owed anything by women when it comes to accepting being hit on. If you have a 2/10 game and you reek of body odor then why shouldn't you be rejected? We don't have to settle just because the guy approaching has been rejected 9 other times. There is no taking one for the team.

If you don't want to be considered a creep then stop coming off as one. I know that sounds harsh, but it's true. I should show you some of the messages I get at times just from guys on here. They barely get a hello typed out before asking me about my sex life. Try dealing with that from 5 or 6 guys a week for your life and then see if you have the patience to sit through yet another one who comes off as awkward.

[Asker]

I have neither of that, body odour or whatever, girls jus very picky

[Asker]

But anyway if you don't want to approach the guys jus don't complain when single your whole life

[Ez-Bri-Z]

We have a right to be picky though.

I have no problem approaching guys or girls.

[Asker]

extremely picky, so picky that even a slightly above average 7/10 guy with decent game gets rejected.. jus cos he said one Tiney thing wrong... Which is fine I guess.. be picky all you want. Jus don't be surprised guys don't wanna do the approaching anymore when the chances of rejection are so high

[Asker]

I know I'm a very loving and friendly guy but no girls want that. They want asshole Chad and dickface alpha male mc Donny dick

[Ez-Bri-Z]

"I know I'm a very loving and friendly guy but no girls want that. They want asshole Chad and dickface alpha male mc Donny dick "

These two things don't mesh. When we see guys who talk like that you auto get put into a "nice" guy role who over estimates himself and blames others for his failings.

[Anonymous]

No I don’t and I don’t care if guys don’t approach, I actually prefer they don’t. I’m from a country where it’s not common for men to approach women (or for anyone to approach anyone) and it never has been in my lifetime. So that’s what I’m used to and prefer, I find it creepy and uncomfortable when I’m abroad in certain countries and all these men approach, stare or cat call.

[Asker]

yeah

[Asker]

Even flirting at all is jus weird. Guys should never flirt with a girl

[Asker]

Anyway I'm glad you're not surprised

[TANMAN55555]

I fundamentally have a low expectation for women and i dont expect even if i date the woman that it will be worth the effort

Im not mgtow or anything but all guys joke about women in the locker room. Western men call it “bros before hoes” because only the guys stick around

Even in marriage the statistics show you should expect them to last

[Phoenix-gb]

Completely agree, there's only so much rejection someone can take before giving up, and yet they feign surprise at the rise of male depression and suicide when they're made to feel unwanted every day.

[calvinP]

Honestly it is all I do and most girls I speak to at least listen to me and say they like the confidence. Also I like it as I find I get better results than online

[Anonymous]

Maybe they are surprised but people go online now. Why bother trying to impress women when they have very high expectations? In life when I meet cute girl that smiles at me and we start talking and like each other, that's all that matters. Not the BS you have to go through until you say screw it.

[Pohjolan]

You forgot internet dating sites and dating apps.
There is much less incentive to do approaching analog instead of digital.