You basically have a sense of whether you want to ask a girl out within the first few minutes of meeting her. You have a conversation to figure out if she'd be receptive to the idea of hanging out with you, so that really should only take another hour, however people tend to drag this part out across several calls/texts/google searches and other inane things to make sure that they're not dealing with a schizophrenic maniac.
You progress to asking the girl out a week later but she's playing hard to get now -- why did it take you a week? Are you a schizo maniac?
You stall for another few weeks. She presumes you're playing games and are not interested and may even be offended if you call her at this point. Were you keeping her on the side in case your first choice of a date didn't manifest itself? She is very cool towards you now and you either have to scrap the idea of dating her OR go through all the extra groundwork to get her back to being the friendly chick you met a month ago.
Meanwhile, you're a frantic mess, wondering how and when the "right moment" will come. NOW is the right moment, buddy. Just get to it. Chop chop, time's awastin'...
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I don't think there is a special time you should wait, I once met a guy at the bus station and we talked for like half an hour until my bus was there and at the end he asked for my number and the next day he asked me out, we had a fun date :)
Anyway when you feel it's right there shouldn't be a time limit, and the point of dating is to get to know each other as well, right?
I'd say that you should ask to "hang out" then it's kind of a date but with less pressure. I love video games so I know a guy is interested if he asks to hang out and play. You can get to know her while hanging out. You want to act fast because like the guys said, you could end up in friends zone or a guy could come and grab her up before you have the chance.
It doesn't really matter, as long as you don't wait till you're only friends and then try to ask her out. By that time she's probably already made up her mind that she only wants to be friends with you, unless she /really/ likes you. If you wanna be friends with her first and get to know her first before you ask her out, make sure you flirt a lot with her at the same time so she knows you're not /just/ friends. But that's not necessary - just ask her if she wants to hang out sometime, and get to know her that way. Flirt lots on the hangout day (no need to call it a date, cause it doesn't really matter if it's an official date or not), and if it goes well and she's flirting back, try going for something more.
You can just meet her and ask her to go somewhere and talk. Light stuff. Coffee, have a seat on a bench and just talk. Doesn't matter.
"friend zone" involves becoming friends first and then trying to progress from there.
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It's a matter off being comfortable with her. If you think you can hang out one on one you're probably comfortable enough to ask her out. At minimum she probably should know who you are
I know nothing about the women I approach and ask out. The actual date is for getting to know someone.
You just need to be awesome. Say something like: "Barney is single.. it's what America has been clamoring for! You're the mini-cherry on top of the regular cherry on top of the sundae of awesomeness that is my life."
Until you get to know her and like her enough
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