How To Eat Less Meat

[Anonymous]

In American mainstream culture, meat and dairy products take up a lot of space in the diet and are sold at a relatively cheap and affordable price because of intensive animal farming. If we didn't intensively farm these animals for food and drink, then these animals would be in much less supply, and the great demand would cause these animal products to be luxury products.

Meat, meat, tons of meat!

In my opinion, meat and dairy are supposed to be luxury products, as they have been in pre-industrial times. If the meat and dairy animals farmed today are all animals derived from organic, grass-fed/grass-finished, pasture-raised farmland where the animals can roam free and spread manure everywhere, then they would be in much less supply, but the great demand would make them luxury products. Only the wealthy would be able to afford them regularly; the middle-class would reserve them for special occasions; and the lower-class would never get the chance to eat them.

A common source of animal protein instead would be derived from bugs. Bugs are cheaper to grow, more sustainable for the environment, and are packed with more protein per unit weight than muscle meats. Most people would just eat bugs as an animal protein source, but for those who can afford to buy muscle meats, they would buy muscle meats from animals that have been fed and finished on grassy pastures and are allowed to roam freely, spreading manure everywhere they go. The manure would be collected and used as natural fertilizer. Birds may be used on farms as pest predators, and the manure will be used as natural fertilizer. The birds are allowed to breed and reproduce offspring, and the surplus birds (most of them are aging and some youngsters) will be sold as meat, while the younger flock of birds will be used on the farm as labor animals (pest predators). All wild fisheries are banned for 500 years, allowing the world's oceans to replenish. In the meantime, humans - if they want to eat fish - would eat only sustainably-raised farmed fish.

But alas, we don't live in such a perfect world. So, the next best option is to just reduce your meat intake altogether, adopt a plant-centric lifestyle, and learn to embrace bugs as a protein source.

Don't Buy Conventionally-Raised Meats, Dairy, Eggs!

The conventional meat, dairy and egg industries are incredibly polluting for the environment and ridden with disease. All those animals get jam-packed in the factory like sardines in a can. A lot of arable farmland is required to feed the animals. The ruminant animals generate a ton of feces, polluting the water, and the animals themselves create a lot of greenhouse gases (methane and carbon dioxide). Because the animals all get jam-packed into tiny spaces (pens or cages), disease can easily spread, and so the animals are treated with antibiotics regularly, leading to antibiotic overuse and abuse. The overuse of antibiotics in the animal agriculture industry can potentially cause the next global pandemic. We have already seen big consequences of the COVID-19 pandemic. Another great pandemic can potentially put the USA into economic depression with millions more dead or economically crippled.

Don't Buy Wild-Caught Fish!

By 2050, the oceans will become devoid of fish, and that there will be more plastic in the world's oceans than living fish, if current trends were to continue. Your consumption of wild-caught fish because you think it is healthier than farmed fish will just encourage fisheries to go out into the sea and catch more fish. Most of the catch will be discarded, while a few gems will be sold on the market. This is an incredibly wasteful, unsustainable practice.

If you really want to eat fish, then you should opt for sustainably-farmed fish, but even that has downsides (wastewater pollution, lack of space for the fish, fish disease). You may be better off with catching your own fish, big or small, with a fishing rod, or alternatively, stop eating fish.

Large-scale commercial fishing

Reserve Meat For Special Occasions Only!

Americans eat way too much meat - more than the global average. Walk into any American restaurant, and you will find meat in gigantic portions on the menu. While doing grocery shopping, most Americans would include meat on the list. School lunches would also include meat on the menu every single day. Plus, mainstream white America would primarily favor muscle meat, not the gut meat or the tail or the feet or even the head. You can usually find those stuff sold at Asian supermarkets or pet stores or the pet-related section in full-service supermarkets.

We don't need to consume meat every meal every day of the year. If we all make an effort to reduce meat consumption to just 12 pounds of meat per person per year (about 1 pound of meat per person per month) and swap meat for a more vegetable-centric (plants, fungi, algae) diet, then we would be much healthier. A cheaper source of animal protein should be in the form of bugs, not muscle meats.

On most days, a person should just stick to a vegetable-centric diet, reducing meat consumption to about 1 pound per month. Reserve the meat for special occasions or holidays.

Support Vegan Restaurants

If you do go to a fast food restaurant or some kind of non-vegan restaurant, then try to stick to the veggie burger or ask for the vegan menu. If there are no vegan options, then don't go to the restaurant. All restaurants, in my opinion, should have a vegan menu. If not, then they should go out of business or add a vegan menu.

Beyond Burger, plant-based patties

Grow Your Own Food!

If you own your own private land, then you may use your land to grow food. Then, you have to preserve the food long-term - canning, pickling, drying, freeze-drying, freezing, salting.

Start your own urban garden!

If you just live in an apartment, then you may still have the option to grow food on the balcony or in the living space. You may also ask the lease office whether or not you can grow some fruits, vegetables or herbs in the community area. Then, you may have a very local source of food (fruits, vegetables, herbs, maybe some mushrooms, maybe some edible bugs, maybe some honey, maybe some chickens and ducks and eggs).

Yes, you can grow from your balcony!

If you do have your own garden, then you may be able to have some chickens as pest predators and cats as rodent predators. The chickens are allowed to breed and reproduce, so in the future, you will have a new generation of chickens, and the old generation of chickens may be slaughtered for population control. The fresh chicken meat can then be consumed. Because the birds are primarily used for labor, not meat, you have to stick to a near-vegan diet and only go non-vegan to control the animal population. Alternatively, you may feed the surplus chickens to your cats and dogs.

[nerdybutlazy]

My partners began vegan for about 2 years now and slowly I started eating less meat too cause I love cooking dinner together ( not because he would shame me, not all vegans meat shame), but the reality is you're extremely right plus there are a lot of alternatives, you can get a most of the protein you need from vegetables and vegan food tastes great with a little practice but that's the same with all food, the sad part of this is the society we live in makes it seem like we need to eat meat all the time when we really don't, it actually helps cause cancer

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Also food would be cheaper on average because we wouldn't be wasting so much of it on animal feed. Also, another option is ostroveganism (basically bivalves are OK but all other animals aren't). They're kinda expensive but so packed with vatims and minerals (4 cherrystone clams gives you 1600% DV of B12 and 6 oysters gives you 1400% DV of Zn) that you'd only need to eat around 1 serving a week.

[myTake Owner]

Finally, a person who gets it.

Most people here want to keep their usual consumption of meat, even believing that it is healthy to eat meat everyday for every meal.

I have never said or promoted to ban all meat, just reduce meat consumption. We don't need to consume meat everyday for every meal. Americans, in particular, already consume twice the amount of meat than the world's average consumption; and meat in the USA is relatively cheap/affordable for even lower-income folks.

If we reduce meat consumption altogether or eat meat from surplus labor animals relatively infrequently, then that would benefit the environment and our health.

Meat should be a luxury food, not an everyday food for the average Joe on the street. The average Joe should be happy with nutritious bugs, fruits and vegetables.

[StylesbyDR]

This will never happen unless you got excess income. Vegan or organic stuff in general is expensive, more so than cheap meats. Organic stuff is still sprayed with pesticides or insecticides or most crops would not be edible due to bugs, worms, and other animals messing with them. More humane grown and butchered animals may taste a little better, but not much different, yet you spend way more for it.

We do not need to be humane at this time against the farming, raising, and butchering of animals.

The belief that meat was a luxury is trash. It was not a luxury due to it being hard to obtain. In fact it was not uncommon for those before medieval times to get plenty of meat. We were hunter gatherers and a single animal can feed a family for weeks. Animals became more luxury in medieval times where kings would horde the meat for themselves and leave other foods to the commoners. In these times not only did you hunt, but you raised cattle as well. The only difference is we do it better now.

We are meat eaters. That will never change. The difference in the future will be whether or not it is 3d printed instead. Yes thats a thing, we 3d print organs already.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Vegan foods aren't all organic and beans and rice are some of the cheapest foods there are.

[Anonymous]

So basically you want poor people to eat bugs and not be able to afford real food. How nice of you.

This is nothing but extremist brainwashed vegan propaganda. Good thing is the vast majority of people thinks you’re nuts, and for good reason.

by the way I wonder how many bugs you eat yourself... I also wonder how well you understand how fertilizing, growing, watering and flying your fruits and veggies across the world so you can have the unnatural luxury to eat them year around affects the environment. Judging from your post - not at all.

[nodnol32]

Great point. This vegan BS is only present in the West. The rest of the world didn't buy into this propaganda and eat real food.

[myTake Owner]

@nodnol32 There are already 50 million vegans in China, along with vegan restaurants in both China (People's Republic of China) and Taiwan (Republic of China). Both Koreas have long been influenced by Buddhism, thus vegetarian banchan (side dishes) in both Koreas. The Japanese tend to eat more fish than red meat, but in smaller portion sizes than their Western counterparts. India has had a long tradition of lacto-ovo vegetarianism.

In many parts of the world (such as Vietnam), people do eat bugs as an animal protein source and real food. The West, though, has an aversion toward bugs as food, viewing entomophagy as disgusting.

Most importantly, I have never argued or promoted veganism. You read that wrong. The whole myTake is about eating LESS meat, not eating NO meat. The current Western consumption of meat is excessive, in my opinion. You only need a modest amount of meat, that's it. Nowhere else in the world do people eat meat as much as Westerners do.

[nodnol32]

Im Asian. I wasn't aware of what you mentioned about the far east apart from the japanese eating more seafood. You have a lot of vegetarians in india but meat eaters aren't uncommon there either. In Asia, the middle eastern countries, Iran, Pakistan etc are quite big on meat. I know this mytake has a different agenda. Meat is love though. For me Asian countries are meat heaven lol.

[Anonymous]

I love my dairy, but that's my Scandinavian genes talking. I love fish too, but I try to limit my meat consumption. I mostly stick with lentils, dairy, and Eggs. Americans don't eat enough fiber and that is the real reason they have issues. You should have 65% fiber 35% meat, but Americans have 65+% meat 35-% fiber. If you don't get enough fiber meat will toxify in your colon and you'll get polyps. I try to have beef only once a week, or chicken twice a week. I could have fish everyday, but have it less often lately. I eat a lot of eggs and cheese. The lentils are my main food stuff. Lentils are loaded with iron and fiber and re a good source of potassium and protein. I enjoy the taste of meat, but I monitor my consumption. I am glad it is readily available, I just don't want to have it too often. However, I would never eat a beyond meat product, that defeats the point of meat to me. When I have the blood lust, only meat satisfies it.

[myTake Owner]

You have basically agreed with me. You have said:
Americans currently eat 65+% meat/35% fiber. They should eat 65% fiber/35% meat.
Percentage-wise, 35% is much less than 65%, so essentially you do agree with the premise of this myTake, which is to eat less meat.
I have never mentioned at all to eat no meat, but apparently people like you keep on thinking otherwise. Geez... read the goddamn myTake, people!

[Opinion Owner]

I Didn't say you said that, I was just saying how I felt about meat. I get weary of anyone who uses the term Vegan. I'm an omnivore, but tend to be more vegetarian through the week. The way math works you could eat the same amount of meat and just eat more fiber, but for most that is too much food, so you are right that would translate to less. Oddly fish falls under it's own category and requires less prep. I wasn't saying your entirely wrong, but it's much more about the ratio than just simply eating less meat.

[myTake Owner]

If you alter the ratio, then you ultimately eat less meat than you normally would. A person can only hold so much food at once, unless that person is trained for competitive eating games.

[Posterboy56]

This is all true; meat should be a luxury item but we have gotten so used to it that we have it too often. Unfortunately, we have created a life of convenience that we essentially have all bought into. I can't have my own farm or raise my own chickens but I do try to limit my meat consumption to vegetarian meals at least a few meals a week. Current meat production isn't sustainable. We do indeed need to keep thinking of alternate proteins, including bugs possibly, or fake meat patties like Beyond Burger (which tastes really good by the way).

[Hydrogen]

Thousand years ago when people only ate meat mostly they were healthy and didn't need medications, now that we're obsessed with perfect body and try out different diet every two weeks, eat refined plastic, we die like flies. Meat is a must of a balanced diet, there is no vegetable that can substitute meat and vice versa. Both are needed for balanced diet.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

There are also supplements and fortified foods.

[Hydrogen]

Supplements are the reason people developer diseases. How can you compare fresh meat from age when air was clean and forests existed with today's vitamin pills made in factory with extra plastic left-overs?

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

You do know that said meat is subjected to trophic magnification of pesticides right?

[Hydrogen]

You do know that supplements are made of plastic and God knows what? I'd rather risk a salmonella from meat then cancer from supplements.

[Hydrogen]

than*

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

There's plenty of pollutants meat as well.

[Hydrogen]

Animals that aren't factory processed and aren't sprayed are not dangerous. As for the bad bacteria in the meat it is killed off by cooking the meat. You just need to know the difference between animals who were raised in a factory and ones who were raised in the fields.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

They don't have to be sprayed themselves and even if they're fed grass, the grass is often sprayed with pesticides.

[Hydrogen]

Grass is sprayed where lol in the city? Definitely not in villages here. People kill for that stuff.

[Hydrogen]

Spraying someone's field grass that he feeds animals with is a death wish

[Natehunter199]

funny how true that is. Now adays we some may different kinds of food and i bet if you went out and picked 10 randome people at all different ages. I would be willing to be one third of them have to take some kind of meds

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

@Natehunter199 Yeah but that only represents a tiny fraction of all farming.

[Hydrogen]

Yeah because people are taught that meds can solve everything. They relieve pain, feed you, supplement you, give you abs and perfect looks. People are going for the pill option too often simply because it's the easiest way. To die.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

No, just the most effective way to TREAT DISEASES.

[Hydrogen]

Pills destroy your organ functions and it has been proven multiple times by real scientists that later dissappeared of course. Human body is not made to digest plastic, not even sea or soil can "digest" it. Once your organs can't pump all that garbage from your body you end up dying. Pills are easy way out and are not healthy at all. They treat one disease but bring several others.

[Hydrogen]

Doctors tell you to pop pills so you get sick even more and need to pay money for expensive treatments years later. If you can't see that pills are harmful then you're blind I must say. Blind-folded lab rat.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Yeah that's why life expectancy increased with the advent of modern medicine (and continues to do so).

[Hydrogen]

Actually people are dying more than ever. Someone is giving you wrong info, you probably listen to WHO who fakes all their data lmao

[Hydrogen]

Coronavirus is a joke. Millions are dying from cancer and tuberculosis.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

So few died from it so far because of quarantine measures. 10s of millions would be dead now had measures not been taken.

[Hydrogen]

Only in America, the rest of the world is fine. Probably because your media always exaggerates.

[Darcia]

Vegan food is so good. Just Saturday I had a vegan jackfruit quesadilla with cashew cheese, yucca, pico de gallo, cilantro, lime, Spanish rice & beans. Then went to a vegan bakery and got a cinnamon roll. It was damn good. Vegan food ain’t just rabbit food it’s actually really good. Almost better than the real thing.

[myTake Owner]

The Fung Bros on YouTube say that vegan Asian food tastes so much better than non-vegan Asian food, because the food itself is packed with more flavor, and a lot of thought goes into it. They say all that while feasting on vegan baos.

[Darcia]

I haven’t found a vegan Asian spot where I live yet. Only vegan Mexican & American. Well then again vegan food isn’t hard to prepare. Vegan desserts are beast.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Best part about Mexican food is it's easy to get a vegan option.

[Darcia]

Been vegan for 6 years

[Agape93]

This just reeks of economic privilege and wishful thinking.


The soil here isn’t great for growing much, and there’s too many trees to allow for much to grow my own crops.
Seafood is plentiful and cheap here, and it’s good for you.
Wild game like deer is a dietary staple for me.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

She mentioned "mainstream culture" (i. e. this wouldn't apply to everyone).

[Agape93]

It doesn’t apply to the majority of people. Hence privilege.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Actually it does. If you swap out meat for beans and rice for most meals, what she's suggesting is achievable for most Americans.

[Agape93]

Beans and rice don’t give as much nutrition and it’s not always available at affordable rates.

Hell at my local grocer I can buy 10lbs of oatmeal for about $7-8. Rice costs me about $14 for the same amount. So why would I shell out more money?

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

They actually give a lot of nutrients not found in meat and they may not be available where you are but they are available cheap to the majority of the US population.

[Agape93]

I’m an example. Just because it’s available, doesn’t mean it is everywhere or even cheaply.

Correct but that’s why you supplement with vegetables. But trying to say we should eat less meat, which is a dietary staple for many Americans, especially those who have to hunt, it’s just wishful thinking from those with enough money and resources to pull it off.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Again, that's probably why she said the "mainstream" (because there will be exceptions).

Call it wishful thinking, but don't think that keeping animals in wet markets is the only kind of animal agricultural practice that can breed pandemics:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4638249/
foodindustryexecutive.com/.../

[tallandsweet]

I like this post, however I would like to add that the beyond meat pea protein based burger I tried tasted HORRIBLE.

I'd much rather have smoked tofu than to ever eat an awful meat substitute like that again.
I incorporated a lot of alternatives to meat in my diet and slowly eased out of eating meat, but I think labels put too much pressure on people - I'm not vegetarian, but I don't eat meat right now.
As simple as that.

[PBandJ_Nerd]

I'm a pescetarian so I will eat seafood but not meat (some pescetarians exclude all seafood except fish, but others don't). So I eat veggies, fruits, beans, nuts, seeds, dairy, eggs, etc. like a vegetarian would, but I have seafood as an additional protein source. Usually they say you only need to eat 2 fish a week, but shrimp is softer if you want to consume a little more.

[Anonymous]

The problem is too many humans. Especially poor people because we pay people to have kids if therefore making it so we have to do factory farming to produce a food supply cheap enough low quality to feed the poor useless people who should not be having kids and only were able to because they literally were paid to have kids.

Cut all social programs cut all tax breaks for having kids there should be tax penalties not tax breaks.

[Opinion Owner]

Also if you actually work out your protein requirement is so high there's no way you can get it just from vegetables I need over 200 g of protein A-day there's no way I could get it from vegetables. Without the calories being insanely high.

[Hydrogen]

Yeah lower the amount of people on Earth by discouraging giving birth to children, great plan. With current death rates in 10 years Earth would be empty. You must miss the old Germany buddy.

[Opinion Owner]

Actually no it will not be because the people who could afford gets still have them the population will go down what's needed. Thanks to know more taxes to pay for social programs people have more money therefore the middle class is more likely to have kids not just the lower class. Like I said the problem is that who is having kids is poor people because a little I get paid to have kids with tax money stolen at gunpoint from People now who because of this high taxes can't afford to have kids.

[Hydrogen]

You're maybe talking about your country. You can't judge the world based of one country, every country has different laws. I hope that you will seek some help soon, it must be rough going through all that by yourself.

[Opinion Owner]

Pretty much every developed country does this. Its the main flaw with the democracy when you allow everyone to vote the people not paying the bills will vote for free stuff for them and high taxes on everyone else. They just cry you don't care about kids the people not paying the bills vote yes to whatever they say there's a reason why you have to limit voting in democracy or to failure of a system

[Hydrogen]

Democracy sucks either way, always did suck, always will suck.

[Opinion Owner]

Yes it does it's because we have a system that allows everyone to vote it's great if you limit voting to only the people contributing. About half the people in America don't even pay federal income tax.

[Hydrogen]

People who pay tax are not rich people hahah

[Opinion Owner]

Actually the rich pay the vast majority of taxes. The top 1% pays something like 86% of the taxes it's a myth that rich people don't pay taxes they actually pay the vast majority

[Hydrogen]

Brother they're washing billions over the cayman islands lmao, even football players keep getting chased by the IRS all the time. These people don't pay shit to the government. Neither do mexicans. Small business owners feed the tax piggy bank.

[Opinion Owner]

Again that's a myth that's a very small percentage. Like I said the 1% pay like 86% of the taxes the top 10% it pays like 99% of the taxes.

And of course Mexicans won't pay American taxes they're not American unless they're living here than they do it's taken out from their paycheck.

It's clear you bought into a false narrative.

[Hydrogen]

I don't believe someone is stupid enough to give like 30% of hard earned money to the gov. Especially those self educated guys that use their brain unlike the college sheep.

[Opinion Owner]

Actually it's more than 30% if you factor in all of it. In high tax States you're looking at more closer to 60%.

And unless you are working for yourself the money is taken from your paycheck before you even get it so it's clear you don't even know how people are paid and tax. If you don't pay it the government comes with men with guns to take everything you own and put you in a cage. You bought into it false narrative to make the angry at people who have more than you to make you think they're not paying taxes when they're actually paying the vast majority of taxes you're basically a crab in a bucket.

[Hydrogen]

As I said it's different from every country. USA is not the world. We have different taxing system here. I'm above average, I'm not the 1% but I'm still paying taxes. Also, most people don't even keep the money in the states. You think your country is rich lmao? You guys owe trillions. China and Russia shit on you in economy race. Money is taken from paychecks yes, that's why rich people don't have paychecks.

[Opinion Owner]

I never said we are rich you don't even understand what Is being said at this point. If so under informed you can't understand you live in a little bubble where you think everyone but you is not paying taxes. And rich people do get paid to pay checks some don't even take pay take Jeff bezos he only gets paid $80000 a year the rest of his money is from his stock. You just don't understand what's going on and live in a fantasy. Also most the debt is because of government social programs what I was saying to cut.

[Hydrogen]

80k/year on paper, 80m off paper. Clearly you're trolling, I don't think you're that dumb. Even kids in the elementary school know that rich don't work for paychecks. Not gonna waste time on someone who is debating behind Anonymous

[Hydrogen]

And your debt is mostly military shit because you think that having guns makes you tough

[Wewladdy]

Great answer

[Hydrogen]

But in the real you're just another obese redneck nation that needs excuses. Have a nice dat

[Opinion Owner]

Actually military spending is 3rd they just don't report the 1st 2 is social programs because it doesn't fit the narrative. It's clear you have no clue what's going on and bought into a false narrative to make you believe in stuff like socialism.

[jmstarling]

Only a sick fuck thinks only rich people should have kids. Rich people are the cause of poverty. 20% of the population has 80% of all wealth, and it sure as fuck isn't because they work harder than everyone else.

[jmstarling]

That is completely false.

[jmstarling]

You are completely full of shit you have been spoonfed by the rich.

[Wewladdy]

Ooga booga let's pay poor people to have kids even though we can't afford our own oogie boogie

[Opinion Owner]

Yes 20% of the population has 80% of the wealth because people are lazy. It's funny how you think rich people steal your money and that's why you're poor

[jmstarling]

If you think 80% of the population is lazy, you're a blithering idiot. Wealthy people do not work, especially if they live in the South.

[jmstarling]

@Wewladdy Poor people are not paid to have kids. That's another lie brought to you by right-wing think tanks.

[Wewladdy]

Yeah sure, people in poverty who have kids, they just starve to death. Yup. No one is forced to pay for their welfare. That's an alt right nazi myth!

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah you're just one of the crazy people who think the rich people are stealing from you and that's why your poor not because you're a failure.

[Natehunter199]

I have a 60 acres. I raise my own beef, pork and some times lamb. Have chickens as well for the meeat and the eggs as well. Then i have a 20 acer you pick garden for are community. I would say about 70 percent of the food i consume come from my own land. Or that it is something that i have harvested during hunting season. I perfer naturest grocery store then going in to town and paying for somethe that is pumped full of chemicals to mature faster.

[DizzyDesii]

That veggie burger look yummy af. My high school cafeteria used to serve those to us and we never knew lmao

[Anonymous]

Lol, nah. Never. You go and eat your bugs and grass, I’m going to grab the steak I have in my fridge right now.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

If you've ever eaten oats, rice, corn or wheat, you eat grass.

[MCheetah]

I didn't read all of this, but basically the only people who can afford to eat healthy are the wealthy (or more so, I mean the financially stable, so upper middle class people with stable jobs that pay a lot). Sorry, but I'm too broke to go vegan.

[jmstarling]

I'm pescetarian (including crustaceans and bivalves), sometimes pesco-pollo, but I'm on SNAP,. and vegan foods are often very expensive, as is fresh produce. Fresh peas in pod, which I love, are $8 a pound.

[MCheetah]

@jmstarling
Yeah. I was on EBT benefits for a while too, and I was basically a sandwich, toasted chips, and water kind of guy. Rarely ever ate fast food (before I came to Korea that is; Korean food sucks in my opinion), but wasn't exactly an upper middle class vegan type, either.

[hahahmm]

You say ban fisheries for 500 years. Why not ban all pets that eat fish based products? Why not ban people from living anywhere animals used to have feee roam? i could go on & on.


Wake me up when you have real solutions

[hornyafbi69]

You're opinions don't make my decision on what I eat so if you want to treat meat as a luxury by all means unless you that for everyone in American then you're opinion is noted and filled in no attention needed 🤣

[Anonymous]

Who cares? I love meat and I'll eat it. Vegans not eating meat is great because its kind of reducing the demand for meat and hence lower meat price per kilo in the future is inevitable. Bugs? Why eat bugs? Veganism is only present in the west. The rest of the world actually enjoys proper food.

[elisa_0]

Red meat is especially unhealthy if eaten too often.

[Anonymous]

I love buying a lot of meat when its on sale and then cooking it on the grill. It smells great. I invite the neighbors over and we drink beer and eat meat.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/wx59zLqBRuI

[Wewladdy]

You enjoy your bugs and soybeans. I'm gonna keep eating meat and building muscle, thanks.