Would you ever eat an alive octopus?

[ChgzDaniel]

Would you ever eat an octopus while it was still alive? Would you eat one cooked? Thoughts and opinions?

Have Already Tried It

Would Try It

Would Not Try It

[Randomawkwardness]

I am very against eating live animals, exactly why I don't eat any sea food in most cases. Eating an octopus live is inhumane - as is boiling crabs alive. It's wrong and if that's the only way you can enjoy a food, you need to really reconsider. Your taste and wants should NEVER matter more than humane treatment of animals.

[Shamalien]

so I take it you are at least a vegetarian?

[Daniela1982]

An octopus is a very intelligent creature. It's sad that we eat other intelligent creatures. I hear they are about equal to a dog in intelligence and with a much smaller brain. Now, would you eat or want someone else to eat your dog?

Eating my kids huh? Now it's my turn land dwellers!

[Shamalien]

enjoy bacon?

[Daniela1982]

@Shamalien But it's not alive when you eat it.

[Ummmmmmm222]

Pigs are still extremely smart, and cows are arguably smarter than dogs. A cow can be trained to herd other cows and even close the gates after a certain time. We still eat them.

[devilman666]

That's wrong in so many ways. Octopi are very intelligent animals. Imagine how you would feel getting swallowed whole by a giant, or even worse, having your arms and legs cut off and eaten one by one.

[Juxtapose]

Not while it's alive, no. Would you like to be eaten alive?

[EmbraceThePain]

Agreed Juxatpose!

[Shamalien]

would you like to be eaten at all? The treat others how you would want to be treated philosophy equals veganism.

[Juxtapose]

@Shamalien Plants are alive too and actually make high frequency noises that can only be heard with scientific equipment when they are being hurt.

That smell when you cut your grass? That's a distress signal sent in agony.

[Juxtapose]

Plants will even grow better if you talk to them.

[Ummmmmmm222]

True, but the more complex an organism is the more work your body has to do to digest it. Its best to stick to things that aren't evolved after a certain point.

[Juxtapose]

@Ummmmmmm222 We evolved to be omnivores and you can live a long, healthy life with a normal diet.

And cows actually have four stomachs because the plant matter takes so long to digest.

[Ummmmmmm222]

You can live a long and healthy life on a vegan diet too. Most apes including our ancestors up until a certain point were actually herbivores but even today we see other apes supplementing with bugs and small animals in certain cases. In the case of humans, the only reason why we have evolved the way we did is probably because of climate change and being out of the rainforests. That doesn't mean that we should just stick to our current diet. By the way, when i was talking about complex organisms i was mostly talking about mammals. Certain kinds of fish can actually be eaten with no problem. I am not just talking about nutrition, but the complexity of the organism itself. A cow can literally cry, and all of the hormones pumping through its body as it has enough self awareness to know what is going to happen is going to effect you.

[Juxtapose]

@Ummmmmmm222 I'll eat what I want, you eat what you want. Just make sure it's dead first.

[Ummmmmmm222]

You can eat nothing but bread and butter and i wouldn't care, im just telling you about some unconventional things is all.

[Shamalien]

lol everyone here:

"I wouldn't eat an octopus alive, that's inhumane!"

*has no problem encouraging the active slaughter of millions of pigs, cows, chickens, etc, gladly gobbles them up so long as they are bathed in seasoning and well cooked*

your all just a bunch of selfish fucks who are too disgusted to eat the thing but want a moral high ground too. You wanna be humane? Stop killing innocent creatures for no fking reason other than you're too damn lazy to change your ways. Either make the change or stfu about what's humane or not

[Ummmmmmm222]

there's a difference between eating something alive and eating something that was killed. Thats the point.

[Shamalien]

@Ummmmmmm222 The difference is smaller than you might think

[Ummmmmmm222]

Really? So chopping an octopus leg off and eating it right in its face while is squirms around for its life and then chopping another leg off while its still alive is different than quickly killing it? Wow...

[Shamalien]

@Ummmmmmm222 Don't 'wow' me. You are taking it's life for no reason other than your silly pleasure. You don't need to eat animals to live a healthy life. That's the fking problem, not how you kill or how you eat it, despite what many people seem to believe. Yes, it's another level of cruelty to eat it while it's alive, but that is a small addendum to the actual transgression which is taking an innocent life.

[Ummmmmmm222]

Dont wow you? Wow man...

[Ummmmmmm222]

nothing is innocent. This idea that animals are innocent isn't true. They rape, kill and eat eachother because guess what, they are animals just like us. Being angry at humans for eating other animals is energy draining. You do understand that at this point, humans are not going to stop, right? They are going to continue eating animals. We are a fairly young species. Instead of getting so angry over someone elses choices understand how far we have came compared to 500 years ago or even 50 years ago. Just give it time, everybody doesn't progress at the same pace. Humans are going to inflict pain on everything like you are trying to do to me right now. This is apart of your animal instinct to be aggressive when it comes to confrontation. Are you spiritual or religious?

[Shamalien]

@Ummmmmmm222 YOU do not kill in cold blood if YOU are a good person. You can ramble on about how those cows in the slaughterhouses are not innocent, or the chickens in their cages, pooping on eachother, yeah they are super evil for shitting on eachother yeah?

Fuck off. Just fuck right off. If you wanna believe this horseshit and rationalize it to be moral in your own mind, go ahead, but don't try this shit on me.

[Ummmmmmm222]

I didn't say it was moral nor did i say i was a good person lol. Actually, i dont believe anybody is a "good" person as long as we are tied to this primitive brain of ours. One thing is for sure though, you are not exempt for being "bad" for the vulgar and hateful language. You talk like this in attempt to hurt other people, but the point is everyone may not understand at the time why something is bad. I dont know if you are aware of this because of the way you are talking, but empathy is learned trait across the board whether we are talking about respect for life or others. You talk about respect for life but treat those who eat meat like dirt. Animals eat animals, animals rape animals and animals kill in cold blood. This is a universal fact. Since humans are so bad and animals are innocent, i want to see how trusting you will be coming in contact with 3 lions who aren't even hungry.

[Shamalien]

@Ummmmmmm222 I don't treat those who eat meat like dirt at all, most of my friends and family are meat eaters. However, if you are gunna blatantly show your cognitive dissonance, I am going to shatter that shit on site.

Good daye.

[Ummmmmmm222]

You want humans to stop eating meat? That is like expecting other animals to stop eating meat. Whether you like it or not, humans have evolved to become omnivores due to certain circumstances unlike other apes. Nutrition wise veganism is not a natural diet which is why we need supplementation in the first place. Animals contain the 9 essential amino acids that humans cannot make on their own because nature has intended it to be that way. Most plants and fruits do not contain 9 essential amino acids for humans because nature did not intend for you to just eat that. Then we get into all of the other enzymes present in meat that isn't present in vegan diets or good bacteria. To be mad at humans for doing what nature intended is being mad at nature itself. Its a battle you can never win. That isn't to say that humans should continue to eat meat, but you are lying to yourself about life in general if you do not accept the fact that nature in general is cruel. Do you think plants are stupid? Because grass can send signals of pain to warn of danger and trees are also able to communicate. All life has a right to live in this logic.

[Ummmmmmm222]

And before you go any further yes, i know quina and kidney beans completes the 9 essential amino acids, but the point i was making is that in a natural setting it would be impossible to find those two things together meaning that nature itself intended us to eat what we needed. Anyways i may be a bit too gullible to think you would understand this. You get mad at humans for eating meat then you are just mad at life in general.

[Ummmmmmm222]

Wait, you literally equated eating meat to "killing in cold blood" and said those who do that are not "good people" so your family by definition cannot be good people. You are not being truthful with yourself here then you accuse me of having some form of bias. C'mon dude come out and say it. You think you are better because of your diet

[Shamalien]

@Ummmmmmm222 Please explain to me how killing an animal that did not harm you is not killing in cold blood. Be honest with yourself

[Shamalien]

@Ummmmmmm222 on that point, they are more ignorant and less moral than me, yes, they are, and so are you and anyone else who eats meat. There is no arguing that. Most of my meat eating friends are at least intelligent enough to admit that what they are doing is totally immoral and that on this point, I am more moral than them.

[Ummmmmmm222]

No, you said people who eat meat are not good people, not that you have a higher morale. Your family and friends are not good people in your eyes then. You also ignored that point i made about plants also having some form of intelligence. You even go as far to call animals innocent, when they would hurt you in most encounters in the wild because nature has intended it to be that way. All life should be equal, otherwise you would assume that a mentally handicapped person has less of a right to exist opposed to a functioning human. To survive, whether you like it or not means that you have to kill to eat. You do not get to deem which life is more important than others. When you walk on the ground you kill bugs, when you eat plants you kill plants. End of.

[Ummmmmmm222]

Killing in cold blood is to kill for no purpose. To say that people who kill for food, and even the people who are grateful to the sacrifice is killing in cold blood is twisted.

[Curabyron]

Hell no, why would you make an innocent animal suffer, its sad and disgusting. I hope those people that eat it alive choke on its tentacles and I hope that this stops. Why can't people put them selfs in the animals shoes and imagine being eaten alive or boiled alive.

[Thatsamazing]

1) Wow, fucking gross, and
2) wow, fucking barbaric. Octopi have insane levels of sensory perception. It's basically torture of the octopus for no reason. If you're going to eat it, at least kill it first. People are so fucking stupid, man. God.

[Izumiblu]

Yes and would again. Not the whole thing but usually chopped up where it’s still wriggling n stuff. It’s good but not fantastic

[devilman666]

I once cut up a living dog and watched as his limbs wriggled. The taste of raw dog meat isn't that great, but I'd do it again.

That is sarcasm, the point is that that is fucked up. You are literally talking about torturing a living animal, cutting off it's limbs one by one, and eating them as it watches. That is fucked up, that goes beyond even hannibal lector, he at least killed his prey before eating it.

[Izumiblu]

@devilman666 lulz “kills it before he eats it”.

Nice distinction

[devilman666]

"But usually chopped up where it's still wriggling n stuff." You are cutting up living animals. It's the same as cutting the legs off of a live dog. In my opinion eating a live animal is more inhumane than cannibalism.

[Izumiblu]

@devilman666 you do realize that virtually all seafood is either suffocated, tortured in nets for hours or days , or cut up live or boiled to death right? Don’t be such a drama queen. Go back to eating your lentils and drinking your no foam soy latte.

[devilman666]

Nah, I'll go cut up live cats and dogs for fun, because we do it to fish, so why not? Maybe I'll try cutting up a live human too, and if you have a problem with that then you're just being a drama queen. Torturing living animals to death is both fun and completely moral!!!

[Izumiblu]

@devilman666 Ok, well if that’s what’ll make you feel better after having to endure this horrific post I made then Rest assured You have my blessing

[devilman666]

I'm glad that animal abusers everywhere have your blessing. It makes me feel really good knowing that you don't care about cats and dogs being tortured to death, drowned, stabbed, or shot.

I wonder what will you say if you die a slow and painful death though? Will you say "virtually all seafood dies this way, so I won't be a drama queen.", or will you whine and bitch and cry about how unfair and painful it is? I would bet on the latter.

[devilman666]

fightdogmeat.com/.../

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...y-killed-Mauritius.html

Just a little reminder of what you have blessed.

[devilman666]

Please go to the links and watch the videos, that is the kind of thing you support. You either care about ensuring animals aren't harmed unnecessarily, or you don't, and you clearly don't because you would eat living animals.

[Izumiblu]

@devilman666 I didn’t bless animal abusers everywhere. I blessed you as an exception. Because of the enduring harm you’ve had to bear from this horrible, terrible burden I’ve placed on your shoulders by virtue of this post. Hope you feel better soon. Seems like my well wishes really aren’t helping much because you seem to keep escalating your drama. Is there anything I can do to help you down from the precipice?

[devilman666]

@Izumiblu
fightdogmeat.com/.../
Go to that link, watch the first video. You are okay with cutting the tentacles off of a living, conscious octopus, so after you watch, tell me how you feel about cutting off the leg of a living, conscious dog. If you feel bad about the dog, tell me why you feel empathy for the dog and not the octopus. Thanks.

[Izumiblu]

@devilman666 because octopus taste good and dogs taste bad. I mean you do realize that the octopus is killed by a vertical slice to the bell which kills the nervous system right? No different than shooting a cow in the head or chopping off the head of a chicken. You may not like the graphic detail of it and you may not like the idea of the legs wriggling it’s a nervous response no different then the legs of a chicken moving after death. Just eating it closer to the time of death. I understand your emotional response but it’s uninformed by fact. Now if you are against the consumption of animals then at least your logic is consistent but there will be no way you convince me that it’s wrong. So you may as well just give up now because I don’t believe that human and animals are equal

I’m busy. Got to cook dinner. Making white sturgeon tonight. Caught 46” keeper sturgeon last season It’s good. Like halibut.

[devilman666]

Have you ever eaten dog? I've heard that dog tastes very good, similar to beef in many ways.

It's not about what I like or dislike, it's about whether or not you're torturing the animal. I'm not upset by wriggling legs, I've hunted and watched chickena run around with their head chopped off, I can deal with graphic details.
https://laist.com/2016/11/21/save_the_octopus.php
In this resteraunt they seem to be cutting the tentacles off of a live octopus. I don't know how they did it at the resteraunt you went to, but this is torture. If you kill the animal first then it feels nothing. If they killed the octopus first then I wouldn't care, but the kept it alive just to inflict pain by cutting off it's legs.

"I understand your emotional response but it's unconfirmed by fact." The fact is that many octopi have their tentacles cut off while they're still alive, that is torture, and I am not okay with torture. My biggest rule when it comes to killing animals is to do it as quickly and painlessly as possible.

[Izumiblu]

@devilman666 I’m not really concerned with it tbh. I generally believe that animals should be treated in such a way as to minimize stress and pain and that they should be fully utilized If I choose to elevate a handful of different animals out of the possibility of being killed for meat , like my two cats then I’m fine with that too. But overall, no it should want bother me that when I catch a trout and clean it that it experiences pain and it’s still alive for a few moments. Same with the octopus. It doesn’t bother me that it experiences pain for a bit then dies.

You make up things to make your point dramatic. Stop being a drama queen. It’s unnecessary and not even meaningful in any real way.

[devilman666]

What have I made up? Tell me.

The difference between the octopus and the fish is that you are trying to kill the fish quickly. In comparison it would be like catching a fish, keeping it alive for a few days in a tank, and cutting its fins off while it's still alive. It's like when poachers catch a shark, cut it's fins off, and then they leave it in the ocean to suffocate (cause sharks can only breath while swimming). It's unnecessary suffering.

[CarpetDenim]

When will people learn that eating isn’t ASMR and that it’s just gross? This is specifically repulsive, and quite barbaric as well.

[Obtuse]

I have like hers in the vid. It's not my favorite. Their tentacles tend to cling onto your mouth when you eat. I like chopped up better.

[Obtuse]

I preferred to kill it first. Then it turns white. You can see her doing that when she squeezes the head. But even when you do that their reflexes are still active so they can fold and cling onto your mouth. It is like raw octopus overload. Tastes the same to me, just very fresh. I prefer chopped up.

[Obtuse]

Also ate live squid.

[devilman666]

Would you eat live dog?

[Obtuse]

@devilman666 Maybe. I really love dogs as pets though so it's not something I would necessarily want to seek out doing. I have eaten horse though.

[Obtuse]

@devilman666 Oh oops -- live dog. Probably not. I glossed over the "live" part, sorry.

[devilman666]

Why not? It's a lot of fun tbh. I did it with friends last time I was in china, it's soo much more fresh when you cut off the legs while it's stile alive. They squirm a little too, kinda funny to watch.

Tbh I'm being sarcastic and trying to point out how fucked up it is to eat live animals.

[Obtuse]

@devilman666 Are you a vegan? I could see it as screwed up to eat all animals potentially from an ethics standpoint.

[devilman666]

@obtuse I'm not vegan, I just think it's fucked up to cut the limbs off an animal while it's still living. at least kill it so that it doesn't suffer unnecessarily, imagine a giant grabbed you and started ripping off your arms and legs and then eating them one by one. It's just fucked up, it's literal torture.

[devilman666]

I have nothing wrong with eating horse as long as you shoot it in the head before you start cutting into it with a knife. Same goes for dog, same goes for octopus. What I have a problem with, is causing unneccessary pain for the animal, just put it out of it's misery first.

[Obtuse]

@devilman666 I could see there are relative degrees of suffering, and still ultimately death, for all animals being consumed. It's like the practice of Foie Gras is very exceptionally inhumane, but still a lot of cooks who prefer it over more humane methods. I am not a saint for sure in this context, and I've also hunted and killed and consumed animals in the past as well as fishing. I do at least eat these things, you know, I'm not doing for sport -- and I also consume organs and such -- whole animal. I don't waste much.

[Obtuse]

@devilman666 >> [...] is causing unneccessary pain for the animal, just put it out of it's misery first.

I actually don't necessarily disagree here. It's considered a delicacy live, and just something I tried while visiting South Korea. There's kind of a balancing act between empathy for the creature and sort of being polite as a guest. I erred on the latter side. But even with the humane factors aside, I genuinely do prefer it killed (ideally in a very swift and human way) and chopped up.

[devilman666]

Foie Gras is a bit different, you aren't torturing the animal to death. It's a little inhumane to force feed with a tube like that, but I don't think it's that bad since, in theory, it shouldn't really hurt the animal. We force feed humans when necessary and while it's not something I would want, I certainly don't think it's anywhere near the same level of cruelty as eating a live animal.

I have no problem with hunting, as long as you don't intentionally cause unneccessary pain for the animal.

Again, what I have a problem with is torturing live animals. Just imagine being in the position of that octopus, having your limbs chopped off while you're still alive. Just imagine eating any other animal while it was alive, and then ask yourself why octopus is different.

[Obtuse]

@devilman666 Well, I don't necessarily disagree with the moral aspect of your argument, but I was a guest in this context. It wasn't like I went to South Korea and said, "You know what I want to try? A living octopus!" I didn't seek it out. Instead, I was treated by a host.

So I'm there, and I'm looking at the dish in front of me, and maybe if I had a bit more of a passionate stance here I'd make a stand... but I prefer to pick my battles and this wasn't a battle I wanted to fight in a foreign country with someone trying to treat me. And the thing is dying either way -- you know. I'm not saving any lives necessarily by making a stand in this one little context, and I don't really have it in me, on this topic, to go to war here.

[devilman666]

Fair enough, I will contest the idea about saving lives, I wasn't arguing that you should spare it, I was arguing that you should kill it before cutting it or cooking it or whatever.

[Obtuse]

@devilman666 Cheers!

[ShadowofRegret]

Never! They are too cute!

[ninjagirl_34]

Yeah, just no. Its an octopus that's alive, that is gruesome in my opinion.

[Bananaman177]

No, because I'm not convinced they are conscious enough to appreciate it.

I would do it to a mammal, though.

[ArrowheadSW]

I would NOT have live octopus. I have had octopus many times but not live.

[Mustachekitteh]

Nope, would disturbed me WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY too much.

[CocoBat]

No I like octopi, I do not like the taste of octopi, and I would not like to put them through uneccesary pain

[WhiteShoulder]

No, not a live octopus. I had cooked octopus in a Greek restaurant. I prefer calamari.

[AngelLily]

I wouldn't eat one alive it's very inhumane and people have died from doing so.

[Anonymous]

I personally would never cook or eat anything alive. It is insanely cruel and anyone who does actually has something wrong with them. Like seriously, research it.

[Gunnar1978]

No because octopus are quite smart animals and I wouldn't want to kill it that way.

[ChiTown33]

The thought of it trying to crawl it's way back up my esophagus kinda creeps me out. Lol

[Rob19777]

Dude that's fucking sick what the hell is wrong with you? How about someone eats you alive how would you feel then? Sick fucking bastard

[genericname85]

i would if i had to... i mean in a survival situation. i wouldn't wanna do that for "fun".

[Daniel3035]

No why would I we've got two viruses because of this stupid shit.