Girls, you create the fuckboys, womanisers, players, and man whores that we see today

[Anonymous]

To be honest, as girls, we find ourselves complaining about the things guys do to us on a daily basis. It has never occurred to us that boys are what they are today because of what us girls make them to be. It has never occurred to us that a lot of these boys who we label as douchebags are the way they are because some girl in the past tore him apart to a point of no return. It has never occurred to us that a lot of these boys have never had a father figure In their lives so the more they grow, the more confused they get about manhood.

I could go on and on and yes it may seem like I'm making excuses for these bad boys but to be honest sometimes we have to realise that there's more that meets the eye. No guy on this planet was born a jerk, a Fuckboy, a heartbreaker, a player, a womaniser, a douchebag, a manwhore, an egotistical Big headed psycho. They don't deserve the recognition of destroying innocent hearts but they do deserve the attention that will fill up the gap they've been longing to close.

[Anonymous]

Wow you're a prime example of a dumb woman.
Keep on believing that and dealing with these awful men because you feel sorry for them or think you can change them. You're gonna end up getting played an awful lot.

Cause the last things these guys need is another excuse for their crap.

[myTake Owner]

oh gosh you're stupid and you can't read please pick a struggl. idiot

[Ginnyweasley97]

i think that being stupid and not being able to read is the same thing. So saying pick a struggle is contradicting.

[myTake Owner]

@Ginnyweasley97 how is it the same thing? so if I was illiterate then I'm basically stupid? is that what you're trying to say? I really hope not because that would a complete shock.

[Ginnyweasley97]

ok. sure lets go with that.

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SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FOR EVERY GIRL ON THIS GOD FORSAKEN PLANET! If a guy is an asshole its your fault!!!

[gobsmacked3]

I never play the victim card.

You are what you are because of you, plenty of people have been through great hurt but stayed true to self

[Vesuvius87]

Exactly. I find people using the ''but I was hurt in the past'' as an excuse to treat others shitty pathetic. You are what you are.

[gobsmacked3]

@Vesuvius87 correct ma'am

[Anonymous]

You don't do it's complexity justice but yes, you have some influence over these men and it's not specifically just 'an ex broke my heart.' The response should be more than treating guys right in a break-up or being what you would call a better person in a relationship.

One of the additional factors is things like "as girls, we find ourselves complaining about the things guys do to us on a daily basis." Complaining can be more than just a symptom, you can cause the issues you complain about, or make them worse.

It creates problems because there literally aren't that many guys to complain about. The majority of guys *do not* have the sexual power necessary to be many of those names you call them. You're complaining *a lot* about a minority of men and it impacts the rest of men as well as impacting women's perception of men as a whole by perpetuating these notions, thus further affecting men.. and women.. thus.. etc.

Then there's also this presumption of female value: "They don't deserve the recognition of destroying innocent hearts." Are they *necessarily* innocent? No. A totally conceited bitch can start throwing around "fuckboy" at the faintest inkling of a slight, and yet feel justified and accepted in doing so. Men are nowhere near as often tolerated for negative feelings toward women, while like you said "as girls, we find ourselves complaining about the things guys do to us on a daily basis" like it's nothing; you can be a total cunt of a person and be validated for it.

So even to ask if it's *some other* girl in a guy's past that hurt him, it's barely addressing the issue. Thinking it's always some other girl.. over there.. away from me.. who I don't know.. and have never met.. and is so far removed from me.. is barely addressing the issue.

And if we get into not having a father figure, on top of a bunch of "real man" gender role bullshit to deal with, there's also girls without fathers aren't exempt. Girls aren't automatically good people because they're female. They're not justified in complaining solely because they're female. They shouldn't be considered society's moral center just because they're female.

[Zayeem]

Yeah,, girls make themselves easily accessible often,,

[Iambutaman]

If you think about it through the perspective of evolutionary biology, being a fuck boy is an evolutionary adaptation to fulfill a biological imperative of procreation. In other words, Men learn to behave the way they behave As a result of seeing the kinds of behaviors that women reward in men with sex and punish through the withholding of sex. It doesn’t matter how many women think you’re a “great guy”. If being a great guy doesn’t get you laid, then your bloodline will eventually cease to exist. Women show through their choice of mate selection which traits they want to preserve and which are Essentially unnecessary. The traits of a fuck boy, while undesirable emotionally to women, seem to be effective in obtaining sex, which is why men do it. They’re not doing it to impress their male friends, they’re doing it because it works.

I went through a fuckboy phase and I can tell you, the most I ever got laid in my life was when I was a degenerate, drug addicted, fuckboy, living at home with my parents. I eventually decided I didn’t want to do that anymore, because it was eating away at my soul. Once I wanted to want to start a family, and I went into each new date with the intention of finding a relationship, my dating and sexual success took a nosedive. It became a regular occurrence for me to make plans with women, meet up, go out, have dinner or drinks, pay for everything (because of course), have great conversations, find commonalities, laugh, and be told over and over that I was a “perfect gentleman”, only to get ghosted and never hear back from them. It doesn’t get to me as much as it used to, just like how you get stronger the more often you go to the gym, but there is no man on earth who goes through that much rejection coming out the other side not at least a little jaded. There might have been times where I found women’s behavior deeply frustrating, but I never hated women. I love women. The only women I don’t like are the ones who hate men. Because it sounds just as juvenile and ignorant for a man to hate women. I think there’s a lot of women who don’t comprehend the amount of rejection men have to go through to get what they want or deserve.

So, it’s imperative, for the continuation of the human species, for women to reward the men who exhibit the traits that make them good partners and parents with sex, and punish the men who exhibit fuckboy traits by withholding sex from them. To achieve this requires cultivating self-awareness, introspection, and accountability. Women, I’ve learned more about what being a man is from you than I ever have from other men. And there are good men out there. Unfortunately, I don’t believe in female intuition, because if that was truly existed, there would be no fuckboys. Take the advice and do what you will with it. But, for fuck sale, stop fucking guys who sell meth and have neck tattoos.

[lumos]

"Create" them? As if these guys don't have a will of their own, as if they're merely puppets or molds of clay that we shape as we please? That's a very sad view of men you have. I'm not saying it's right to treat people like shit or cheat on them, abuse them etc. But please, people are accountable for their own actions, their own words, their own opinions. If someone decides to become a douchebag because some ass wronged them in the past, then that's THEIR decision.
I've been bullied, I've been hurt, I've been used in the past. However, that does not give me the right to treat people like shit or "turn" bad, then I would be no better than the people who did that to me. And I would honestly win nothing on behaving like an asshole. I can't be held accountable for what they did to me, because it was out of my control. However, I'm in control of my own actions and behavior.
If someone thinks "well, they gave me a hard time and hurt me, so that means I can hurt others, even if they don't deserve it", then that person is weak. They're full of shit. They're no better than the people who hurt them. It's a vicious circle. And using your argument, just as many boys are creating "bad girls" than in turn hurt more good guys, and vice versa. Nobody wins. So people should only be held accountable for their OWN actions, regardless of WHY.

[lumos]

pieces of clay* lol

[bro25]

Girls influence things same as guys can women guys can make a woman overprotective as can a woman can make a guy have a nature of being a dick because they have done stuff to him

[Mysterio421]

I found a popular radio host. His name is Tom Leykis. He talks about this. He says that generally girls say they want something, but want the other thing. They say they want a nice guy but they don't. Tom Leykis's advice works for me. But that's why I have a 0 tolerance policy. Paying mind games? Your out. Single Mother? Your out. Heavily use of drugs and medication? Your out. I can go on and on. It can be tough out there in the world, but YOU have to set the rules and you control whether a situation or person will hurt you emotionally, physically, financially, etc. For the guys, I get where your coming from. A lot of mind games and drama out there from girls. Don't tolerate it. I understand the whole nice deal. People out there are genuinely nice, but there are times where you put down and say enough is enough. Think about it, only low self esteem girls go for the "bad boys". They try to change him, which never works. As for the girls, I get that side too. Guys who are players and only want sex. It's a circle that keeps on going. I blame the sex revolution for this and the previous generation who didn't raise their children "right". I just like to observe people and I leaned this by myself. The dating game today is not worth it. A lot of mind games, infidelity sites, etc. I am just chilling with me, myself and I happily as an entrepreneur. My point is, there will always be people who do wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right. Don't let anyone pressure you to change your personality. I REFUSE to be this "badboy" to get a girl or even get laid. Not changing for someone else and being deceitful. Oh, one more tip. Be straightforward with people. Don't lead them off. I HATE that. Enjoy your day 😅

[myTake Owner]

the dating world is very crappy I swear

[Zayeem]

🫡good said.

[Iambutaman]

Try to see it as it is without resorting to judgment. We’re dealing with emotions, so it makes sense that it doesn’t make sense.

[Bandit74]

EH, I do partially agree but I think men are fuckboys because women enable them.

Women find these guys attractive because of their looks and charm and since women constantly throw themselves at these guys and agree to have no strings attached sex they get an ego and realize they can get away with it. They realize they can't treat girls like shit and get away with it because you all allow it.

Plus I've seen a lot of girls have this mentality "If i meet a hot exciting guy who isn't relationship material, Ill have sex with him right away since I dont care if he respects me or if it turns into anything more. But if I meet a guy who IS relationship material, Ill make him wait for sex so he doesn't see me as easy"

Guys are motivated by sex, so if girls reward the guys who aren't relationship material with easy sex, and make the guys who ARE relationship material wait for sex then they have no motivation to change themselves. They are getting exactly what they want as is.

Ironically girls will still often develop feelings for the guys they hookup with even if they didn't initially intend to. Often times when a gril agrees to be fuckbuddies with on of these guys, she ends up secretly wishing that he would call her his girlfriend. So in a way they get everything the relationship guy gets. They get the girls body, her time, and her heart.

[Dragonstarterplus]

It's soo simple yet women don't seem to understand it. They sleep with the non-relationship material guy the same night, then make the relationship material guy jump through all kinds of hoops and wait for sex, then they wonder "why are there soo many players, and where did the gentlemen go?"

[OpenClose]

It's cool you would say this!

I wouldn't go so far to say girls totally "created" these guys. But a lot of guys feel like the values we were raised on are often the most hated, while it feels like the trashiest of us are the ones with a girl in each arm. And we look UP to these guys.

And I get sick of men not only reinforcing this idea, but making excuses for girls. Saying "Well, she is just attracted the best fighter and protector. It's biology."

Guys. Stop making excuses for these girls. Don't start changing yourself into some "sexy jerk" or "alpha warrior" to please these women. REJECT them. Yes, you can do that. Turn them down. You don't need that kind of drama-seeking nonsense in your life. This is the kind of behavior that forgives evil because it is strong. It's the kind of mentality that leads to serial killers getting swarmed with love letters because they are "so edgy."

If you think that is a bit of a stretch, consider what girls in South London consider "edgy": https://tinyurl.com/gp9uswp

Yes, that pun was intended.

There are enough smart, reasonable women with decent taste in men. If a girl is a gold-digger, don't get rich to keep her impressed. Dump her ass for a girl who's got a clue.

[ObscuredBeyond]

Lack of a father does more to make them that way than mistreatment by a woman. Mistreatment by women is pretty much most of my life's story. You don't see me treating women horribly. I don't go around using women. But I do wind up being very cautious about letting any get too close.

And with some of the ones that have hurt me, the grudges are hard to let go of. I'm convinced if I try to forgive them to their faces, they'll spin it somehow into another excuse to inflict more harm, like simply approaching them means walking into a trap.

If you abandon me, that breaks my heart. If you send someone after me, especially an authority figure - especially when no one in their right mind would say you had a good reason to climb that high - you may as well have torn out my heart and then sadistically punctured my left lung for good measure.

I desire to be a friend to (almost) all women. But when they pull these shenanigans, the individual woman who does this is pretty much an enemy for life. (There are currently 3 on that list.)

I don't respond to them by being the a-hole on a date; but by cutting them off from me in every feasible way. When I'm crossed in the manner described above, it's a dish served cold. And my defenses are even colder. When they enter a room or speak, I leave abruptly. If addressed, I merely give her stink-eye, say nothing, and leave. She knows what she's done.

To women who don't cross me, however, I am one of the most loyal allies she can have.

[TheAverageMan]

All you morons be quiet. I can speak from experience. I've been fucked over by so many girls to the point where I've lost count. I have no idea who my dad is and my family sucks. Being nice to women does NOT work. I've been nice to the sweetest girls only to be get fucked over in the ass by these bitches. Now... I'm different. Being an asshole is the way to go. Fuck what these pathetic commenters are saying... Dont be nice to women. It never works. The nicest girls only want someone nice until she actually gets a nice guy. The last girl I was with acted so nice. I treated her well... The best i couod possibly be but it wasn't enough. She did me the worst out of all the girls. She left me for her ex... Then later after he cheated on her she tried to come back to me then went back to him again after all that fucker did to her. Now... Take my advice you ignorant cunts and stop trusting these whores who proclaim themselves to be right and just. Bitches never change. It's a fact. Look it up. Thank me later.

[Iambutaman]

You sound salty af. No wonder you keep getting fucked over.

But I understand your pain, bro. I came home from work one day to find my girl passed out naked on my sofa with empty condom wrappers scattered all over the floor. While I was out, she invited a random guy she met off Feeld and fucked him on my sofa and in my own bed. The only thing that kept me from smothering her with a pillow right there on the spot was seeing our dog hiding in the corner, so I took the dog out for a walk around the block and to calm myself down and process what I just saw. When I returned, I woke her up and told her to get the fuck out of my house. She was still drunk and proceeded to call me every foul name in the book. After she refused my many requests to gtfo, I eventually had to call the police to remove her. The worst part of all is, she took the dog. And the police encouraged me to let her! I kept saying, “whores don’t deserve pets”, but I eventually caved in and let her, because at that point, I was willing to do whatever it took to get that monster out of my home and my life, so I lost 2 bitches that day. 😂

What im saying is, some women will be emotional vampires who thrive off of sucking the humanity out of you. But you can’t let them win. I’m not saying you need to be “nice”, but you should always strive to be kind. And there is a difference. I was showing her kindness and mercy by not taking her life.

Don’t give up, because your life and the life of your future children depends on it, literally.

[RationalMale]

The problem is, women are innately turned on by many dark traits. Teenage/early 20 something girls are often bored by the decent, honest, straightforward men, and they love the men who toy with them, care nothing, and place no value on them.

Just look at the success of 50 Shades of Grey for example.

Women in their prime incentive young men to be players, scoundrels, etc. Then these same women get tired of it, then are amazed at why the boring good guys they ignored aren't anywhere to be found!

"We laugh at honor, then are shocked to find thieves in our midst!"

[myTake Owner]

preach :)

[Roostah]

Nice quote. Where is it from

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[RationalMale]

C. S. Lewis said it, @Roostah

[pr3ttybr0wn]

Stop making excuses for poor behavior. So because a guy was treated bad by one girl it's ok for him to do that to all women? It wouldn't be ok for a woman to do it so it shouldn't be ok for a guy. When women go through something bad we usually write her off and say she picked the wrong guy and tell her to do better next time so that's what these players need to do. You can't go around hurting innocent people then be like well a girl cheated on me in the 10th grade that's why I'm like this. Men will never be men until we stop coddling them and rewarding bad behavior.

[bro25]

Same can go the other way just cuz 1 guy was a dick doesn't mean all guys are dicks

[lilac_flowers]

I never blame anyone for being a cunt all alone. No one is born evil I agree. Every bad person I meet I 40% blame and 60% observe as the product of their environment blaming everyone else.

Having said that, I don't give fuckboys a chance. It's not that I don't feel bad for them, it's not that I can't understand. I've had my own version of mental scar I had to overcome to become a good person, I do forgive and try to understand just like you expect me to. But I don't want to be their mommy, psychotherapist and victim. I don't even want to take that chance. I want a normal man I won't feel unsafe next to and that's non-negotiable.

[heavensgift2girls]

Women do create those guys, but generally only because they have sex with those guys and that builds up their confidence. Most people turn into absolute pieces of crap when their confidence goes up. The lower their confidence the more they kiss butt for approval. This is why the player that are getting tons of sex have a lot of confidence and treats women like crap, and the sweet virgin nerd, treats women like they are some sort of goddess by constantly kissing her butt.

Because women are attracted to confidence, this reinforces her chances of falling for the cocky guy that mistreats women, and being turned off by the sweet nerd with no confidence. The sad part is if women started only sleeping with the sweet nerds, then they would become the cocky guys that mistreat women, and the current players would get desperate and start treating women better.

[dartmaul15]

BINGO!

Nice guy gets fucked over by bad girl, becomes a bad boy.
Nice girl gets fucked over by bad boy, becomes a bad girl.
Nice guy gets fucked over by bad girl, becomes a bad boy.

do you see the sircle there? So shut the fuck up about blaming just one sex. It's a sircle of abuse, and it takes every part of the sircle to maintain it.

[myTake Owner]

lol I'm laughing because I don't know what a "Sircle". Need to check that out in the Oxford dictionary

[dartmaul15]

round thing, like a wheel.

like this: s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/.../...f294eb0d4f.jpg

[Roostah]

But why do the nice girls keep falling for the assholes then brah?

[dartmaul15]

@Roostah don't know, and frankly not my problem. Never occured to you that it might be bad boys falling for nice guys, then playing the girls?

I mean, how often do you see guys faking it to get pussy? All it takes is 10 seonds of being naive, and he have lied his way into her pants, fucked her, and broken her. Abd if he has managed to make her fall hard, then there's a fair chance a bit of pressure in the right/wrong spots will make her agree to stuff she normally wouldn't agree to.

Just a posibility, brah.

[Roostah]

bad boys falling for nice guys?

[dartmaul15]

@Roostah derp, meant nice girls. But point is, what if it's the bad boys hunting down the nice girls to submission, rather than nice girls drooling over bad boys?

[Iambutaman]

Circle. That’s how it’s spelled. You sound like an idiot.

[Mustachekitteh]

If those guys turn by because of a bunch of different cunts. That is still their fault for letting it get to them. True happiness isn't something you can get externally. It's something that happens internally. So just shrug off the negativity and embrace the positives. Just means you learned something and can put it to use when looking for someone better.

My boyfriend has been rejected by girls before and I wouldn't be surprised if it's due to his height. He's 5'4" and to improve himself more due to being that short he worked out young. Now he has a smoking hot body and he has a really cute/hot face. To me those girls are idiots or rejecting him. Though I guess they don't like guys who are logical, honest, or hot. Still he never let the rejections make him miserable or get to him. He just said "whatever," and moved on.

To me if you let something like that bring your life down. Then your not that logical.

[HiiLyFe]

Tbh i totally agree with you! But think about the player the heartbreaker and manwhore. They all come from a women who really fucked up they head. For me it only took one and I've never looked back since. Tbh behind every player is a tragic heart break which leads to this behavior. Females tend to have stronger hearts then males. So when a male gets his heart broke it's more like that's never gonna happen again and I'm sticking to it. So let's just fuck hoes! Lol

[Mustachekitteh]

@HiiLyFe Those chicks would need to have done something pretty traumatic to cause that.

I don't see how women have stronger hearts than men. Since for one we naturally are more emotional. I remember once when a guy left me I become extremely depressed and wouldn't eat for 4 days and skipped classes because I couldn't face anyone.

[Dragonstarterplus]

This is a short take but it could have been even shorter and simpler: Guys become fuckboys, womanisers, players, man whores, etc because it WORKS and is successful for getting women to sleep with them. If girls didn't sleep with these guys quicker than they sleep with the perfect gentlemen then guys wouldn't do it. Girls want more gentlemen? Try actually sleeping with them sooner rather than later

[bluenose1872]

I'm no saint but I'm no psycho and I'm resonable. I've use women in my life and it's basically coz I had no respect for the women I was doing it too. Women just can't get it right. They're either a walk over, stupid or such a cow that I get pleasure in annoying them. It's rare you meet a woman who's got a good heart and is well balanced. Girls, you do get back what you give out in life. If your selfish, vain, arrogant and two faced then that's the people you'll attract to you. Any feelings you harbour in your heart will be like writing on your face and you will be judged for it. Why should men respect you if you have nothing to respect you for?

[Chief16]

Ain't true. Even if we can't control what happens to us, I can give a meaning to my own circumstances. I don't have to live as a playboy or a manwhore or whatever else. No. I'm not gonna become a douchebag because of someone's opinion about me.
Why must I give reason to someone else to make who I am today? Aren't you strong enough to crave your own path? I refuse to believe that someone else can hurt me without me letting them to. So dear girl, your concern is very touching but what girl would like a guy who blames his misfortunes on someone else even without trying to sort his mess out?

[Stacyzee]

Each and every one of us have been through situations or circumstances that hurt or harm us in some way.
But the moment a person lets those experiences mold their behavior into negative , they bare all responsibility in how are in the present.
If someone wants to cry out that they cheat , abuse or are a total jackass because they are a victim of their past then they are an imbecile who is not taking responsibility for their actions.
By you helping them and pointing fingers , you are no better than them.
It's easy to say, "I'm this way because..."
It's far too easy to pass the blame onto someone else.

[thaliza]

Silly enough, people still don't realize how each person is different. You can't say in behalf of them all that we, girls, made them like that. If I broke his heart because I didn't want to be in a relationship at them moment, I'm sorry he got so butthurt by something that certainly had a reason behind it to happen. Very few of the "bad" guys, as far as I know, became a douchebag one day. It is how you were raised and with who you were raised also. Sure, you can not just be born with a bad personality, but that can be created in early childhood too.

[Tanuron]

One of the things I been proud about myself is how I retained myself. I lived a life of pain and gotten pretty used to life being shitty, so when a girl I shared more with than I ever had an she honestly utterly broke my heart. The amount of urges I had to just go completely bad. Cause I try so hard already to just be good, an to be stabbed so deeply, was pretty hard to deal with. But I know this girl again only did something a guy did to her about 7 years ago and yes, it ruled her life for 7 years, maybe still does. But I didn't let her rule mine at all. didn't fall into that vicious circle. Cause like dartmaul15 said here. Bad boys make a bad girl and a bad girl make a bad boy. Thankfully I didn't let this spread anywhere at least. So ended there when it hit me.