The History of the Nice Guy, Bad Boys & Jerks (Page 2)

[brunohusker]

So basically your'e saying women don't care about a personality. I KNEW IT. Typical woman. You say all this BS about personality, but you are worse than men. At least men aren't picky in who they date or sleep with. Also would you rather have your tough guy beat you and give you a black eye or a nice guy who treats you like you should. Get back to me when your boyfriend punches you in the face and cheats with you. He won't care about your feelings

[icemaster2340]

Guys I'm not saying you should go fight each mugger that tries to rob you, ESP not if they have a gun or a knife... That would be stupid. No instead, give them your money but show no fear and protect your girl, thts more than enough. Because there a good chance ull end up stab or shot if you try to act macho and fight off the mugger

[icemaster2340]

Ok FYI a good looking guy does not always equal to a strong person. My friend he like pretty good looking and pretty confident but once his girlfriend told me like when they went out and got mugged, he was almost crying... The protecting your offspring part is pretty invalid nowadays since we live in like a peaceful society. However do note that it is in times like getting mugged tht a guy can truly show whether he is as confident and strong as he appears to be.

[Hewhowas]

I would not go out with them and vice versa however I have seen with many girls if a guy is physically appealing but a complete asshole and they know it they will still go out with him. The only reason I can think why is as what Vandutch said guys and scientifically proven better looking guys have a stronger more forceful personality they stick up for themselves and show that they can't be pushed around wich in turns shows women hey this guy is someone who can protect me and my offspring

[Hewhowas]

I do this because I have already seen the girls in my school and have not found any to my liking therefore I do not throw myself at them or show that I am in any way someone who sticks up for myself I still have lots of girl's who are friends just a few have really tried to throw themselves at me. However whenever I meet women outside of school they think I am charming strong and funny. My normal personality. To tell in truth if I like someone's personallity but they are not physically appealing

[Hewhowas]

LMAO all the girls on here are agreaing with this article and all these guys are arguing! It just is very funny to me that guys cannot see it happening. See this is all subconscious thinking we do within our minds things that we have no control over. Everything she stated to an extent I believe is correct and the funny thing is that we do it as she said to enhance surviving in the real world. Me as a person in school have not stood out I sit there I sleep I get outsanding grades I live with it.

[GIntrovert]

You know nothing about evolution.. 20,000 years is of natural selection is not enough time to influence the human mind. We are still primitive primates living in the modern world.

Though, my experience, treating girls like I want to be treated, does seem to fail, and the end part of your article seem to be accurate and if I'm 30+ and still haven't found someone, I'm going to remember your statement.. "if I'm still single and unmarried by the time I'm 30, I'll start to give him a chance".

[citychick]

Explaining sex as a cartel or oligarchy also assumes that there are no substitutes. Sometimes our hand suffices. Sex isn't always just sex. Some people are more superficially selective (not always for the "hot" ones); others believe competing for sex/love is ridiculous. Some guys are only weak around girls (NOT guys) due to these nonsensical social constructs that dictate a man's behavior - he should show interest, but not too much or he's a creep. Feelings, but not too strongly or he's a wuss.

[citychick]

I can't agree with the theory either. If this were true, shy awkward geeks would get no play. The problem with applying economic principles (except for game theory) and evolutionary theory to relating is that they assume people behave rationally or according to biology, and markets are perfect. Feelings aren't rational. They're biological but we don't think, "Oh there's my dopamine release" when we look at our love.

[jacki2424]

Ur rite, men should stick to their principles, but what bout compromising? Or is that seen as submissive to u?

Ur flawed with your support, since it is acceptable for girls to have sex with whoever. I know plenty of em, doesn't bother me at all.

Also you ignored the existence of the quite/shy/observant guy...

He always lies in the shadow, is willing to compromise, but still believes in his principles. & when the time comes, he will step up to lead.

[MILLIONDOLLARSMILE]

Well-Done!

Mind blown. So girls really think like that huh? (Rhetorical Question)

I probably have a answer for this but I'm going to ask anyway, what about quiet/shy guys?

like... he could be the Brad Pitt or George Clooney but just not talk as much.

[thecandymancan]

You are so unbelievably right (and frank) that I'd shake your hand and say a loud "THANK YOU" if I met you in person. It's just a pitty I haven't read this article much sooner before I found this out the hard way. However, I'm glad that I finally understand the whole deal... and actually I find it rather amusing to see the tests women do.

[Maxen92]

This article seems truthful, It makes somewhat sense, to an extent. But at the same time, "following" these instincts doesn't make any logical sense either since we are now living in the 21th century.

But this doesn't really change anything to me, since I'm not a push over but I'm still not an "Spartan" physically. I personally would say that in this day and age, the "genetically superiour male" would be the one with the brains, not the muscles.

[miki94]

This is very true and it's so funny how some guys are getting quite p*ssed because of it.

Is it really so hard to find the middle in presenting yourself as a nice and decent person and a strong character?

I'm very much aware of these things and I try to ignore my urge to feel attracted to jerks because ultimately my subconsciousness telling me to find a "genetically superior mate" is being sr**ed by my consciousness telling it I prefer to be happy. 5 stars =)

[Myrrth]

Not true -"And thanks to the social pressures that surround reproduction, the father of your children and the man who provides for them, now (though not in the past) have to be the same man." ~ about (probably a bit less) one if five children are not genetically related to the person they think is their birth father.

Oh and all of the above assumes the guy is trying to get laid. Women don't seems to make good close friends when this is not the case.

[mmelen514]

I find it very hard to believe that ALL nice guys lack character. I did like the slight historical context you did include to make your point, but different time. Spartans were blood hungry soldiers first and foremost, and were trained rigorously to prepare for any war. I also didn't appreciate that those who attain "social" success are winners. That generalization reinforces the fact that celebrities should be considered more important than those who are policymakers and philanthropists.

[moloz]

Interesting. I doubt the article is 100% accurate, but nevertheless, it shares some insight on female psychology. Most of the stuff I guess already knew.

I don't think males should feel angry, these are female goals. If any guy might post anything regarding our psychology, many more females will be angry, if not hate us for it.

[TimeAndTimeAgain]

3) Yes, I'd have to be pretty stupid to think that. But that's not what I was getting at. The point is the girl shouldn't be considering the guy as a push-over merely because of the fact that he's being nice to her. Though in some cases the guy really IS a push-over, I've seen a lot of situations where the guy was simply being nice to her and her ONLY, because he liked the girl. The girl saw that as a sign of weakness due to her own ignorance, and considers him weak and unworthy of her respect.

[TimeAndTimeAgain]

2) I know what cherry picking is. I just ommited the others guys you mentioned because I was short on space. And maybe you have seen Brad Pitt on interviews (or all those other guys, for that matter), but I know I bunch of other girls who know nothing about those guys, and only like them because they're "hot". Yes, attitude does matter, but that's not the only reason why girls go crazy over those guys, so stop making it sound as though it is.

[TimeAndTimeAgain]

1) We are not animals - we are human beings. Sure, as a MATING choice, the Spartan might be superior. But if sex was that matters, girls wouldn't complain about how guys never feel like commiting. The point I was trying to make, is that unless sex is the only thing that matters, the decision of who you're going to mate with you be deeper than just who is genetically superior. Else you're the first girl who says it's OK for me to just pick the hottest girl I know and ignore her personality.