All of Women's Lies and Hypocricies

[Anonymous]

This is a response to the following post that triggers me beyond belief

Entertaining men have the keys to women's hearts!

Basically I've heard so much "good advice" from women I decided to compile it all and point out why it's dishonest and hypocritical.

Starting from the post itself, the author claims that men "need womens vaginas" so they have to be able to entertain them in return. Basically like this

Can I please have your vagina now?

Because obviously comedians and the creepy guys trying to get a dance in a club get all the ladies. And yeah we need your vagina so I guess we have to entertain you and pay for you and court you and put in all the effort so that you may graciously spread.

Next, "women want a nice kind loyal funny guy with a good personality". Yeah right. Cuz it's not like there's an army of guys like this that are single and virgins. No, you want an edgy masculine aggressive womanizer and you hope to turn him into a loyal loving boyfriend.

Remember this guy?

So quit lying.

Next, "I just care about personality, I don't care much about the looks". Then marry this guy

He's a nice loyal funny guy with a great job and he'd never cheat on you cuz he's got noone to cheat with

I don't have a problem with what women find attractive, I have a problem with constant lies and virtue signalling

[WarningWarning]

As far as men needing that specific part of a woman, puts men down. Makes them sound like cavemen. Like they must trick a woman with shiney things so he can get between their legs. What if the woman simply wants the guy because there is a spark there. What if the guy wants to kiss the woman and enjoy every part? I dont think any woman wants comedy relief in the bedroom. Thats cheesy. I love a good witted man. I also love humor. But its not gonna make me spread my legs. The bedroom is a place for yummy steamy hot fun. And yeah i need to find him attractive. Personalities can enhance looks. A good personailty can make a cute guy hot and delicious. A bad one can take a good looking man like vomit. Men aren't dumb. They have preferences too. Us women aren't the only ones who have taste and attraction to specific things

[myTake Owner]

Well women sound like they want to be tricked with shiny things. The times I heard women say "I wanna marry a doctor" or "if he doesn't pay for the date it's over" or "he must be funny and know how to dance" or even "I'm only interested in men who earn at least 65k yearly". You trick us. How are we supposed to know. I've been thinking for the longest time I don't have a girlfriend cuz I don't have all these things I need to have or else I'm a looser.

[WarningWarning]

Hey there, i ain't one of those chicks. Lol i think women are taking masculinity away from men. Complaining about sexual harassment all the time. Men can't be men. Women are vindictive mean individuals. Lol i was born without that sissy gene. I am not a hopeless romantic. I am not a princess, never wanted to be. You are fine. You dont need tricks to get a good woman. Women give women a bad name. Women use their sexuality to trick men. Id rather be admired for my intelligence

[CasaNorba]

"Like they must trick a woman with shiney things so he can get between their legs"

actions speaks louder than words because after all women do require you do impress them with shiny things in order to get that spark.

[WarningWarning]

Most women sir. Because women are manipulating. Men need to be able to be men, and women should find that attractive. Women use sex to their advantage.

[WarningWarning]

But the "spark" is chemistry. You can't buy that. That is some sultry electrical force that runs right down the spine and its rare. It doesn't come around often. But when it happens and you aren't a money seeking whore, its worth more than gold. You will hold on to that person as long as you can.

[myTake Owner]

Yeah tell me if I'm wrong but I think there's two reasons women have sex with men and/or get into a relationship

1. He's got the resources and he's loyal and has a "good personality" so he can provide for her. She practically tells herself he'd make a good boyfriend based on reasoning rather than feeling. Sometimes the feelings come over time, sometimes they don't. It's a weak bond and the woman is likely to eventually cheat or leave

2. She finds him sexy and masculine. She's gonna end up having sex with him and possibly justify it later with an excuse. But if the sex was good she's gonna come back for more. Eventually she's likely to catch feelings for him even if he's not good boyfriend material ex. womanizer, abuser

[WarningWarning]

Women have too much control. Because women hold the power of sex over a man. But most women fake they are enjoying the very thing they advertise. I worked in beauty salons for 25 years. Women are, for the most part, players. But they dont like or enjoy sex They just fake it. To get what they want. So you are correct. For me, i enjoy it too much. Its not a currency.

[Stephen_77]

What makes you think women don't like or enjoy sex?

[WarningWarning]

Women saying it to me for years and years. Most fake it. Like 20% i encountered in 25 years of talking to at least 10 women a day dont enjoy it.

[Stephen_77]

But what about the other 80%

[WarningWarning]

Sorry i said that backwards. Cause i am a dufus. 20% love it and crave it. 80% count tiles on their ceiling

[myTake Owner]

Well they probably don't enjoy sex with *their* man. Which only helps to support my theory that most women end up in a relationship for the guy's providership potential.

[Stephen_77]

If women didn't enjoy sex they wouldn't get wet, for a wet vagina is the result of them getting aroused. Women talk so much bullshit you can't believe a word they say.

[myTake Owner]

@Stephen_77 not necessarily, wet vagina is also a result of physical stimulation or just happening to be horny. It's like having a boner. Someone strokes you enough or you're just in the mood and it's going to happen

[Stephen_77]

Exactly, it's the result of feeling pleasure, which was exactly my point.

[Stephen_77]

I came across a woman some years ago who said that having a penis inside her feels dam good. I do believe that men, in general, are more into sex than women, but to say most women don't like sex is just ridiculous.

[myTake Owner]

@Stephen_77 they don't like sex with *their* man. If an old ugly hag stroked your penis enough you'd get hard, but that's probably not because that's the sex you want. Just like a woman can get wet even if she doesn't find the guy attractive. You might even come if she keeps stroking, though for women they usually can't so they just pretend.

[Stephen_77]

But the fact they get wet shows they are enjoying it because wetness is the result of sexual excitement.

[myTake Owner]

@Stephen_77 yeah about as much as you'd enjoy the hypothetical scenario of that old ugly hag fucking you

[Ninjazzed]

@Stephen_77 Sex is mildly enjoyable for women who are in peak arousal, don’t be easily deceived.. but don’t get me wrong, sex can be very painful for certain women.. Depends on the woman. Everybody is different.

[Ninjazzed]

@Stephen_77 And vaginal wetness isn’t always a sign of sexual arousal, that’s very illogical considering that reports made from both male and female rape victims admitted to experiencing wetness/erections, hence it can be pretty much happen involuntarily.

[Ninjazzed]

@Stephen_77 Men enjoy sex more merely due to the fact they can’t get pregnant and face little consequence over a one night stand, if you catch my drift!

[Stephen_77]

@Ninjazzed No, I think you're talking bollocks

[Stephen_77]

@Ninjazzed If so many women find sex painful, why then do most women want a man with a big penis? Makes no sense.

[Ninjazzed]

@Stephen_77 You clearly either didn’t read either of my comments or incredibly misinterpreted them.

And no, women don’t want oversized cocks that you see heavily marketed in porn.. that’s a myth made for male entertainment. Penises over 9” can actually discomfort the cervix—like I said, it’s painful for SOME Women.. not the majority.

[Ninjazzed]

@Stephen_77 Anywho OP seems to lump up women together due to internalized misogyny and seems to be on GAG with literally no other reason than to bash and shit-talk women, not to imply that men aren’t demonized here but this guy is a dime a dozen.

[Stephen_77]

@Ninjazzed Well I can sympathize with his frustration. Women use their sexual power to tempt and torment men on a regular basis.

[alice55]

I thought you would be a troll but you're 100% rights.

[bamesjond0069]

Don't get all bent out of shape. Silly girls can't help it. They are bimbos who don't even know what they want. How can you expect them to know anything anyways? Its your fault for listening to them in the first place.

If I told you i lost all my money in the stock market by investing based on the recommendations of an 8 year old child, who would be at fault? Me. I'm certainly not going to listen to no damn woman.

[myTake Owner]

Yeah you kinda have to treat women as children cuz they can't be trusted

[bamesjond0069]

You don't "kinda" you need to.

[bailey11]

So if a guy can't be trusted, is it okay for a woman to treat him like a child?

[bamesjond0069]

@bailey11 sure. And this is the case for some men for sure too. But it definitely covers about 95% of women.

[SteveSmith1985]

Oh man, I'm sorry you feel this way. I have to say... I've heard similar threads of argument before. I think it's wrong. Just plain wrong. Women may say they like personality. SOme do more than others. But women don't make some pretense that they are looking for the "nice guy nerdy virgin."

I've known a lot of women. There has not been a single case that I can think of where a woman has claimed that they ARE'T attracted to... what we all think of as typically attractive guys. Lets take Brad Pitt or Denzel Washington as examples (I might be a little dated here but I think it still illustrates what I''m trying to say).

So as far as I know, that 'typical' image of the attractive male: Masculine and assertive I think would be fair adjectives for these two guys.

Note: They are not the "Alpha Male" type insofar as they're not a ridiculous caricature of masculinity. Nor are they seen as attractive for "asshole edginess". Edgyness sure... but think It's fair to say, that in the average woman's fantasy... Brad Pitt isn't an asshole.

Anyway, my point is, I've certainly never met any women who CLAIMED they were interested in the scrawny pushover with personality. NO WOMAN LIES ABOUT WANTING THAT.

Does that mean that no girls are interested in those guys, and they're going to die alone? No of course not. But lets be honest enough to recognize that a guy like that is not going to be the one sought out by the most beautiful women. They are in different leagues. But are there women who aren't perfect 10s who might be interested in a good guy with personality but who's no Brad Pitt.

Would even THESE women prefer a Brad Pitt... yea. All else equal, if they had their choice it's not the scrawny pushover. BUT NO ONE EVER CLAIMS IT WOULD BE.. I just dont know where the notion comes from that anyone is going to think the nerdy-ass Marc Zuckerburg guy is better looking than your 'typically attractive' men like our above examples.

WHere are these women who are claiming to find Zuckerburg so hot, while really they want a Brad Pitt? They don't exist.

All I can think of is the possibility that some guys have twisted the TRUE fact that women want a "good guy" who will treat them well... somehow into women (somewhere) are saying they want nothing BUT a guy who's a "good guy" no matter what other qualities he may have.

Somehow somebody got it into their heads that women (somewhere) are claiming they just can't get enough of reserved, nice-guy-pussys, with personality. That's just not true.

Women aren't lying. They're not hiding who they're attracted to. Ask them. They'll tell you. Yes, they do want a nice guy. They do want to be treated well.

Both Brad Pitt and Denzel Washington, to me, seem like they'd more than likely be nice guys, with a personality (presumably), who I would think, women assume would treat them kindly. This is what women tell you they want, and it is what they want. Obviously this is in general. But even individual women have no interest in deceiving themselves, nor in deceiving men generally, into thinking they like Steve Urkel, when really it's Denzel they want.

I don't know where this notion came from. But women are not lying about this. They never said it. It's some guys who took the idea of "women say they want a nice guy" and decided that meant women wanted ANY nice guy or ONLY a nice guy. ;No woman says that.

Sorry, but this seems like a self-inflicted wound. Something that upsets you (and others) that isn't even 'ACTUALLY a thing

[myTake Owner]

I asked women a lot of times. I asked my mom. I asked on this forum. I asked irl. I asked them what do women want from a guy. They almost always say a combination of "fun kind nice loyal guy with a good personality". I'm not kidding. The other times they just say they like fit muscular guys. So I'm like "ok, I got all that, why am I single?" Only later I started to change myself against what every woman in my life was saying and I got a lot more success.

When I say aggression I don't mean being an asshole or a thug, though some women do seem to like assholes and thugs too. I mean this calm often silent kind of aggression like Christian Gray or Tyler Durden (though Durden might be a tad too much still).

[SteveSmith1985]

Well, I think it's still the same issue I mentioned. It's a matter of how you interpret " "fun kind nice loyal guy with a good personality".

I would like to think that the description describes me very well. It probably fits a lot of other guys too. Some more attractive, some less. But somewhere there a bodybuilder and a scrawny guy who fits that description just as well as I do.

But it would be a mistake to say that women are going to find the scrawny guy, myself and the bodybuilder equally attractive; either physically or in the other million shades of personality difference there could be which still fit the description: " "fun kind nice loyal guy with a good personality".

And I see no reason why either Brad Pitt or Denzel Washington couldn't fit this description as well.

I think that's still what it comes down to. YOUR MOM"S NOT LYING not even to herself. when she says this. It's just some people who choose to think: "well I'm a nice guy who's loyal, fun, kind and nice with a good personality" I'm having trouble with women "these bitches are all liars"...

It's not that simple, nor did women ever pretend it was. They DO want those things, but those are pretty vague descriptors.

REALLY want... and it's not what they're telling you... is just wrongheaded.

[SteveSmith1985]

I feel bad for some of you guys because I'm sure it takes a lot of suffering to become disillusioned enough to buy into this sort of "new men's movement' garbage.

You don't seem as toxic as some of these idiots. But this is one of their 'entry level' ideological pillars. That women don't know what they actually want. It's as wrong as the rest of the "men's rights/movement" ideological underpinnings. It boggle my mind how many guys seem to be buying into it. You think that all of a sudden after however many thousands of years some guy... FINALLY figured out women. LIke until now... none of us knew anything about them, some genius had an epiphany, and now all of a sudden to get a woman, you need to listen to some bullshit that DID NOT EXIST until just now? Do you think that men wouldn't have noticed until NOW that women, in fact are all wrong and always have been about who their attracted to? That the technology to look around you and to draw inferences is new? I mean... if women were saying one thing and really, the evidence showed that they mean something different... I think the scientific method would have picked up on such a universal, widerspread and observable (by it's nature... you can see who women pick)... don't you? Man... step back and think for a minute. For yourself. Step back and think. Look at the men around in your life. NOT the guys your age. but the guys a little okder who have the type of women youactually want. Not the older guys at the club. But look at the fathers of young families in your neighbourhood, young married couples, people who seem to have the kinda life you might want yourself someday. Now are those happy husbands and fathers the opposite of: "fun kind nice loyal guy with a good personality". No man. THey're not.

... whatever it is going on with men these days... man... it's scary.

[myTake Owner]

I'm not MGTOW. Stop saying that. For gods sake can a man not make a criticism towards modern women without being called sexist/Incel/MGTOW?

I was not "brainwashed" by the "new mens movement". I just made my own observations. And some research. And I've changed to better match what women find attractive. And guess what it works. So please no more incel bs.

That said Incels are right about a lot of things. They just choose to moan about women rather than putting in the effort to use the knowledge and actually be more attractive. Or they excuse themselves that they can't just because they don't have the perfect jawline or whatever.

Marriage is a completely different animal. Let's not touch on that. I'm talking about attracting a stranger. Sexually, not for the content of your wallet. Yeah sure it doesn't hurt to be fun. But it does hurt to be too kind or too nice or to be too loyal or too interested in the girl. And women know what I'm asking. And they still lie. It's not a vague description. It has absolutely nothing to do with the things that actually matter

[myTake Owner]

In fact in many ways it's the opposite

[I_Am_Sazerac]

Dude, just stop opening your mouth... you're throwing a tantrum because you simply dont get it and are going for the wrong type of women.

Not all women are the same, most like seeing confidence regardless of certain looks. I may not be dating now but I was fucking fat in the past, like 200 lbs but none of it was muscle type of fat, and I was able to date many women of different calibers because I was confident, firm in my decisions and I treated them well and I certainly didn't cry like this.

Yes women like eye candy just like men do, but they look for far more than that. This business of claiming women want aggressive people to turn into loyal lovers is bullshit and needs to stop. If they find you creepy, maybe consider you're actually acting like a creep? Or maybe consider your tactic of flirting might be wrong. Or you approach them the wrong way.

All in all, there is more to masculinity than being stereotypically "aggressive" and "hypersexual" and etc. Just put in the work. Everyone has to.

[myTake Owner]

Well I never said you can't attract women if you are overwheight so I don't get your attack on me. And yes women want aggressive guys. Doesn't have to be physical aggression. Also guys who are known to have options. It's called preselection and it's proven scientifically

[I_Am_Sazerac]

I used it as an example. So you're trying to use ancient science to prove your tantrum. Stop acting like a whiney incel and just tale responsibility for your own action in repelling women dude. Men have always had to work to get a woman. Just because you want free sex whenever you want doesn't mean its gonna happen.

Your aggressiveness right now is childish and honestly I'd feel sorry for any woman who considers you in the slightest.

[I_Am_Sazerac]

Lmao you are desperate as hell. Bye bye incel. Good luck throwing your tantrums 😂🙂

[yeolsb]

Bravo 👏🏻

[MzAsh]

You are the type of man who I respect because you, unlike others, are capable of logical and critical thinking. I hope other men take notes from you.

[I_Am_Sazerac]

Thank you MzAsh and yells. I at least try to be logical lol.

[WarningWarning]

Very nice

[Shamalien]

Something iv noticed... women claim to have a lot of respect for guys that theyd never in a million years fuck, but verbally shit all over the guys they do. “Oh my god he's such an asshole, he's this, he's that, I don’t know why I keep coming back” she complains. And then to the guy she respects “oh he's so nice, I really respect him, really great guy” *proceeds to fuck his best friend the insufferable douche player*

Sometimes I wonder if its worth it to be respectable. Seems to me that it’s better to just manipulate people like players and women do

[MzAsh]

No one is going to fuck or respect you with that attitude, Sham.

[Shamalien]

@MzAsh u just here to troll?

[Shamalien]

@MzAsh trust me if I could cut the strings to my heart with 50% of the liquer it currently takes to do so I’d be fucking left right and center, im tall and decent looking with a good job, I just dont have it in me to be that cold tho. My cock hates me heart

[I_Am_Sazerac]

Calm down... no one is here to troll. It's all from a point of view.

[Shamalien]

Do I seem un calm?

[Shamalien]

Or are u just being a condescending asshole like u were to the last guy?

[I_Am_Sazerac]

I was trying to be nice but you're apparently looking for a keyboard war or a fight. Bye.

[Shamalien]

don't even pretend to be nice you pompous fuck, I saw how you talked to OP "shuttup whiny incel"

"bye bye incel"

you're a real nice guy ya?

[I_Am_Sazerac]

Lmao you are just as desperate for attention and are looking for a fight. Bye. Also stop creating new accounts to come back and troll.

[WarningWarning]

Wow, what is a the drama?

[I_Am_Sazerac]

he's trying to make multiple accounts to harass me or it's someone else who's bored with nothing better to do other than troll.

[I_Am_Sazerac]

That or he has an actual mental condition and thinks aggression is the way to argue.

[WarningWarning]

I hate arguments. No one wins. Life isn't about winning or losing. Its all about quailty of life we are living.

[I_Am_Sazerac]

I admit I probably didn't handle that as I should have, so I guess the troll won.

[WarningWarning]

Lol i dont remember the troll winning, you had some good stuffz. I must say. I like the tantrums references. That takes some skill.

[I_Am_Sazerac]

Lol thanks, but he was right about one thing, maybe I was a little too condescending. Just irks me seeing another man act like that. But meh, he'll learn soon enough what happens if he continues on like that in real life.

[WarningWarning]

Just forget about it. Give him enough rope to hang himself. And make sure to sit back and watch. With popcorn and chocolate

[I_Am_Sazerac]

You forgot the pilsner.

[WarningWarning]

. yes yes i did

[Sarahr123]

A guy I know who literally gets any girl like girls throw themselves at him and he doesn’t even want them anymore says if he likes a girl he acts like a little boy with her, he becomes a child. It evokes a maternal instinct of needing to protect in the woman and she gets instantly attached to the guy. The more emotionally she is attached the more likely she is to want to sleep with him. Of course being good looking, charming and good with words helps. I have seen broke ass boys with girls literally doing everything for them mothering them and showering them in gifts and affection. You kinda have to be an ass and you kinda have to blow hot and cold to keep them interested. You also need to recognise a good girl because it won’t work with a skank so the younger and less experienced the better.

[myTake Owner]

Good to see someone gets my point.

So what's this guys deal, what do you think makes him so successful with women?

[Sarahr123]

His chocolate boy innocent looks and bad boy persona. He evokes a motherly instinct in any woman you literally feel like it is your duty to protect this boy. He is so good with words but has this naughty boy persona that drives any girl crazy.

[myTake Owner]

What does it mean "Innocent bad boy" or "Innocent naughty"? Bad boy to me means a guy who's got a certain masculinity, edge and some aggression to him so I don't see how a bad boy can be Innocent

[Sarahr123]

He has a bad boy but innocent chocolate looks meaning he’s so cute that he can melt you and his looks are very innocent and deceiving. Face of an angel, work of the devil.

[startingfitness]

i already hate this guy and i dont even know him.
i know players, but they are more direct and just attract women with their masculinity and looks.

this guy sounds like the type of guy who will end up getting his ass kicked because he messed with the wrong girl

[nella965]

You should be lucky that any woman wants to give you any advice. This website seems to be filled with bitter, unattractive, unsuccessful men who can't get any women- which may be the reason why they are so anti women. Being anti women or mysogynistic is the first thing that turns women off. And lastly, nobody cares if you can't get a woman. Its really not my problem. It is your responsibility to figure out why you can't get a woman, not mine. You're lucky a woman even tried giving you any advice.

But yea, you also can't be dumb enough to complain how women don't date ugly guys. You wouldn't date an ugly girl as well so... I can't see why you would hate a woman for that.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Oh, so your one of those women too huh? I mean you must be because why else would you have gotten so angry at being called out? I mean do what you want its just not really smart to lie when every one knows it, makes you look pathetic. I mean I get it, your shallow, its fine just why pretend your not when every one knows you are? Seems stupid. As for your last comment, that was his point, he doesn't care about your choices he cares that you lie about it, that was the issue. Also using the "you too" argument just proves his point, you are in fact shallow and your just claiming otherwise to win "brownie points" so you can feel better about yourself (its a way of rationalizing your shallowness).

[nella965]

@hellionthesagereborn I didn't even read your bullshit. There was nothing wrong with my answer. I DON'T HAVE TO CARE if you can get a woman or not. And seeing how much ANTI- WOMAN you are, that itself is a huge turn off.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Oh, you where afraid of criticism? I get it, you've been pampered your entire life to the point where any one suggesting your not perfect frightens you. Nothing I said was anti woman, I just pointed out women are human beings and they should be criticized for bad behavior just like we criticize men for bad behavior. Obviously your to weak to be able to handle that and are now trying to use your vagina privilege to justify being a bad person, its fine these past few generations of women have all been raised to be weak and cowardly so I am not surprised.

[nella965]

@hellionthesagereborn why don't you get a life? there's really nothing legitimate to argue about here other than your hurt ass feelings. Nobody is responsible for you , other than yourself.

[hellionthesagereborn]

I'm not the one foaming at the mouth right now. Your the one who's feelings are being hurt because you got called out, I am fine I just don't understand the complete absence of logic in your line of thinking. Also why would you insult and belittle a person then act like a victim? Seems kind of stupid. Also why make a comment on a website that is an open forum then get pissy when some one you know, comments? Also seems kind of stupid. I don't care if you want an attractive guy, I just don't understand why you would tell blatant lies about it, its stupid and it helps no one yourself included. Again, seems stupid. Again, I get as a woman that your not use to being called out for your behavior but seriously getting this angry over it seems a bit overkill.

[nella965]

@hellionthesagereborn Like I said, you need to get a life. there's nothing substantial we are arguing about here. Work on yourself , and you will get someone. You will stop being a hateful, angry, anti woman piece of shit.

[CasaNorba]

nobody needs advice from hypocrites who never mean what they say or say what they mean.

"This website seems to be filled with bitter, unattractive, unsuccessful men who can't get any women"

projecting much?

"being anti women or mysogynistic is the first thing that turns women off."

doesn't sound to be the case otherwise, single mothers wouldn't probably exist.

"And lastly, nobody cares if you can't get a woman. Its really not my problem. It is your responsibility to figure out why you can't get a woman, not mine."

I doubt he dedicated this myTake to you sis, not sure why you would be worth his time. so pipe down while you're at it.

[hellionthesagereborn]

I don't need anyone though? That's all you can do isn't it? Insult a man who points out how your being a hypocrite and then you turn around and insult them and show that you do in fact see men as tools because otherwise why would your go to insult be about a mans lack of utility to women (hence you assuming that any criticism leveled to women in general must mean that he cannot get one (far from the truth))? Again, maybe you need to do some self reflecting and realize that you are the problem here as your the one lying about your intent (and poorly I might add), I'm just pointing out that lying about it doesn't benefit you or men so why do it? I mean clearly your anti male (though that doesn't mean much in a society that places women above men) and quite hateful based upon your rhetoric (you do know that you can criticize a behavior without hating a person right?), at this point your just projecting your own beliefs and insecurities on me, not particularly useful but I suppose if it makes you feel better go for it.

[nella965]

@CasaNorba I'm not a hypocrite. I'm just attacking hypocrites back for trashing women. Now the real hypocrites are accusing me of being a "hypocrite". They have ran out of insults so hypocrite is the only word they can use against me

[CasaNorba]

you need to look up hypocrite in the dictionary whenever you get a chance and I sure as hell did not run out of shit to say cause I didn't just call you out on your hypocrisy.

trashing women or not myTake owner does speak the truth and your angry, bitter and resentful attitute of a whiny child pretty much confirms that you're hurt by the truth. your need to attack those who simply disagree with you screams out that all you're doing here is projecting after all

[hellionthesagereborn]

Says the woman who lashes out the second criticism is leveled towards her or women yet had no qualms about lashing out and insulting others first. What ever.

[Dongtai]

You’re way too young to be this jaded. You think you’re the only “person” who’s had their good qualities overlooked for personal preferences? Let it go.

There’s plenty of attractive women who get overlooked too. Complaining and calling women hypocrites won’t get you anywhere. Even if you only express it here anonymously, that negativity is still inside you. Let it go. Trust me. You’ll get nowhere. Here’s my advice.

Become the male equivalent to the type of woman you want to be with. Do you want a girl with a nice body? Make sure you’re busting ass in the gym 4-5 a week. You want a girl who’s fun to be around? Make sure you have something that makes people happy to be around you for.

If you’re not on her level and aren’t willing to at least work towards it, you have no business complaining. The strongest survive and the weak die. Become stronger or let someone else take your place.

[myTake Owner]

Funny cuz that's exactly what I do, I literalry workout 5x weekly and yeah people do enjoy being around me and I like to party. I used to have issues with women but it's not because I didn't workout or wasn't fun, I was just too kind too nice and not aggressive enough. So I changed. But it took me a long time to come to this conclusion because of the lies. So that's why it makes me angry when someone is spreading the lies and virtue signalling

[newblinds]

Bruh, you're 102 you must be too old to give advice though.

But, nah, women have it easier so they're not overlooked the same way dudes are. But I guess that's not even the topic really.

But ya, men do have to kill or be killed.

[Dongtai]

All I hear you guys saying are excuses not to get the girl you want. Go ahead and blame women for your lack of progress. More women for the guys who don’t make excuses

[myTake Owner]

I just love how you can't criticise women in any way without getting called incel/MGTOW/virgin/sexist/womanhater/biggot and when you say you're not everyone is like "impossible, only an incel would say something negative about the flawless womankind that never ever lies or manipulates"

On the other hand women are so ridiculously priviledged that if a guy doesn't pay for her dinner he's automatically a dick, if he ghosted her he's a dick (but it's ok if she ghosts cuz she doesn't owe him anything), if he doesn't want a relationship he's shallow and used her (but she's liberated or just made a mistake) if she says he raped her he's assumed guilty by everyone, if he's fat he's lazy but if she's fat she should be proud of her body and I could go on and on

How can you be so brainwashed, in a few years feminists will walk all over you until men become clown slaves to the glorious womankind and they will fuck you in the asshole with a strap-on

[newblinds]

Oof, @myTake Owner... ah shit does that @ thing work with a space in it... Anyways, yah my take owner dude, you are pretty much correct.

This @Dongtai seems to literally be trolling tho. Or he's so blinded by the women that he's completely denying reality...

Oh well, ya bro were definitely making excuses to not get girls... literally everything is in our power since we're omnipotent beings... Cool advice sir, have fun with your harems man

[Dongtai]

**My final take on this subject**

You can spend your life complaining about problems. Or you can spend your life solving your problems. Whether it be with dating or whatever.

Yes there are indecisive women who claim they want one thing but go for the other. So what. Find women who want what you have to offer. Women aren’t ants. They aren’t thinking and acting based on one brain. They’re all individuals with different tastes, priorities and desires. Just because YOU don’t think you meet her standards doesn’t mean you’re right. But if assume it and just write women off in general then yeah you’re fulfilling your own self defeating attitude. You get nowhere. Women aren’t going to pity you. You’ll die alone and they’ll get with the guys who keep a leveled head with dating.

It just depends on how you want to spend your time and energy. You can spend it complaining and crying about why women are this way. Or you can spend time getting closer to yourself and attracting the correct women.

[newblinds]

@Dongtai oh great another "man up" speech. Thanks so much, really you shouldn't have.

One thing you say that I like, to not get stuck in the defeated attitude, since that can lead to practicing if you think you got a shot then you'll more likely take it.

Otherwise, mostly typical oblivious man shaming attitude... As usual... "Just don't be a bitch bro"... great

[Dongtai]

Sometimes life really is as simple as stop being a cry baby and just deal with it. Everybody has to. This isn’t a fight against cancer or poverty. We’re talking about attracting the opposite sex. You are not going to die if a woman rejects you. Yes. Man the fuck up.

[myTake Owner]

He's right if you have a problem with women you need to man up and change, you just need to know in what way.

I fully support that. I just don't like the fact that everyone assumes I'm an incel just cuz I dare to point out something negative about the way modern women behave. It's okay to disagree. It's not okay to call someone incel for brownie points

[newblinds]

Lol oh my, you're really trolling now. I thought that was your final take. Is this the final final take? Oh well, at least you've come to terms with your alpha strats

Enjoy your harems man, never take the blinders off... You wouldn't be able to cope

[Dongtai]

I haven’t used any labels besides man and woman if you want to call those labels. @newblinds I don’t understand your goal. Nobody’s begging you to change your mindset. I never referred to myself as an alpha. It’s my personal experience that dating is what you make it.

I didn’t start dating girls I was REALLY attracted to until I was willing to let my ego go and be open to getting rejecting by them. I’ve had my fair share of being ghosted, flaked, rejected, etc. But I always end up dating some cool chicks so it’s worth it “for me” to just deal with the bs and find the cool girls. If I threw my hands up and wrote all women off I’d never date again.

I just like women more than i dread the possible negatives of dating one. So I keep going. Does that make me blind or alpha? I don't know. I’m just me.

@myTake Owner

I don’t believe in these new terms alpha, beta, incels, etc. All I believe in is going after what I want and saying screw you to any mental barrier that gets in my way.

[newblinds]

You know what I meant by alpha strats, surely you understood that I was disparaging you by making the comparison to a man successful with women giving advice to plebs while not being aware of the problems of the plebs.

Like, let them eat cake.

My goal is to stop men from being shamed and told to man up when the situation doesn't warrant that solution: there are things outside of men's control that he can't man up into, so telling them to man up becomes harmful.

I enjoyed hearing about your personal experiences in this post that you made. I apologize for attacking and mocking you. I can't continue now but you know where to find me.

And I enjoy the original poster and his spicy takes everywhere, they definitely resonate. Mytakeowner,

[Unkowngirl]

Boy... you were angry when you typed that out huh? Personally I want both. I feel like I’m a pretty decent human being who’s pretty attractive, so I’d like both in my counterpart. I’ve been known to be more attracted to less attractive men though just based on personality... so perhaps you’re the problem. From your hot take you seem demanding and overbearing, and judging from the way you judged that very nice looking man you’re probably insecure about yourself. So let’s calculate it hun, your insecurities added onto your overbearing and demanding demeanor, no wonder you can’t get any girls.

[myTake Owner]

Ehh
I just can't
Who told you I can't get girls? You think you're Sherlock Holmes guess what you're not. So stop making up things about me like everyone else cuz I'm not virgin/incel/sexist/MGTOW despite what your imagination might be telling you.

And yeah that guy looks bad period and I don't believe you'd want to fuck him even if he was the funniest kindest nicest loyalest guy there is

[dbr1987]

Believe me, HUN,, you are the enbodymeny of the article who he wrote, condescending, a overly narccisistic attitude towards him. Making assumtions about the author, telling you feel attracted to less attractive men. With other words you put yourself on a pedistule and maybe it is just your own clouded perception the guys you feel attracted to are less attractive than you because that narcissism of you is constantly fed. You are also not so secure as you pretend and you probally hate it you got so much downvotes. You call yourself a pretty decent human beeing but this reaction shows otherwise. You assume only incels or ugly or average guys think this way but the contruary is true.

[Unkowngirl]

Don’t care

[something_memorable]

And i suppose you consider yourself one among this so called "army of nice, funny, great personality guys"?

We often have higher opinions of ourselves than others have of us dont we. i know you feel emasculated and inferior because you lack the confidence to stop comparing yourself to what the media portrays as the ideal sexy man. You make up fir this insecurity by insisting you still have many qualities that women say they look for, when in actuality you probably dont. There lies the source of your conundrum, why you're so confused and bitter and feel lied to to and cheated.

Think of it like fishing, you are like a fisherman who thinks he has a bait the fish will bite, and when none take it, blames for fish for not wanting a good bait. Instead consider that your bait is probably terrible.

[CasaNorba]

Ummm where exactly did he say anything about himself or how he is an ideal sexy man? all he did was point out the hypocrisy women display about there preferences. your full effort in trying to attack him pretty much reveals that you are truly butthurt on what he said. and I love how you used an endless series of shaming tactics in one paragraph.

" There lies the source of your conundrum,"

clearly your conundrum is that you have a huge need to project

[something_memorable]

@CasaNorba oh fuck off, its utterly obvious by his post and by his response to other people that he's a sad, pathetic little incel who thinks he deserves attention from women by virtue of not being completely evil. Defend him if you want, clearly he can't defend himself😒

[CasaNorba]

really? you do know that when you call a guy an incel for simply having different views then you it means you are simply shaming him for that one thing you only have to offer. so clearly you are projecting.

if he really was wrong you would of simply disagree and at least tried to proof him wrong. which you obviously didn't, you when straight to personal attacks

[PinkMichae]

I'm not gonna say I agree or disagree with everything you wrote. However why get triggered and bitter over it. If you don't like how women are then don't date them. Do you think women don't have to deal with men and their issues they don't care for as well?

In my experience the majority of men I've met do have a love for a womans kitty because biologically they are driven to mate. It doesn't mean all men want just any kitty because most men do need more.

Women have their own biological needs that cause them to behave a certain way.

If you are bitter toward women they will sense it and you'll get the worst part of them.

Both men and women need to except each others differences bad or good, except what drives us, and make the most of it. Being bitter will just make everyone miserable.

[Games_]

Attraction for women is so complex and complicated, they can find ugly guys attractive and good looking guys terrible.

Women only really get off on commitment and experience with a individual because the sex is just for us not for them really.

They also gotta make it a bit complicated since they can't just let any guy inside them, they have more to lose

The women who fuck a guy who looks good without getting to know them are just the genetically stupid ones, filter them out.

But I do agree, some women do like to virtue signal because they are insecure and dishonest about themselves

But yes peoples actions do speak louder than words

[myTake Owner]

You're deep in their lies brother. Women are probably more sexual than men. They just don't find most men sexually appealing. But the ones they do they practically drag into bed. Or if she's the "good type" just give token resistance. Watch 50 shades and remember it's an international phenomenon and tell me again women are not hypersexual

[HZ_R32]

So you just watched 50 shades and understood that there’s no way for you to be., what’s that billionaire’s name? It’s actually worse that I thought

[Games_]

Those are immature women, idiotic ones. Lol a women should realise they can't be letting any guy fuck them. They have more to lose.

That's why when a girl like that gets with a terrible good looking guy, they start turning to ugly dudes or nice ones.

And nope u got it wrong, getting women isn't like all those videos u see, it's a lot easier than that

[myTake Owner]

Lol I never said you need to be a billionaire. Why do people put words in my mouth? They say I'm sexist incel MGTOW while that's far from the truth. They delete my comments. Guess truth hurts.

Look there's 2 layers to women: her logical side and her emotional side.

If you're sexy you're gonna engage her emotional side and she's gonna want to have sex with you. Just like a man wants to have sex with a woman. Women are actually sex freaks. They keep comming back to guys who disrespect them or abuse them just because sex is good.

If you're not sexy the only way you can attract her is by engaging her logical side. She's gonna think of you in terms of boyfriend material. She's gonna start reasoning and comparing you to other candidates. "Well all my friends have a boyfriend and I want one too. I guess he looks good. He's nice. He's got a good job. He's funny. But that other guy... He can dance. And we both like Harry Potter...". You're gonna have to go on multiple dates with her and pay for her before even thinking about sex. And then you might find she's often not in the mood or denying sex if you didn't please her. She might cheat or dump you. You're basically a provider and if you fail at that task or she gets a better option you become useless to her and She'll find an excuse to dump you

[Games_]

I think what you said seems right, the ugly guy always gotta work harder while the hot guy just gets it in a flash, but once that hot guy starts acting trash, he's a turn off to some of em.

[HZ_R32]

This circus isn’t over yet? I’m tired of those notifications

[wynn-ing]

There's too many assumptions on both this and the original even though the original extends far beyond "too many" assumptions and her's actually goes straight into delusional thinking.

On the contrary, there are definitely women who want a 'nice kind loyal funny guy with a good personality' because those last and I'd marry that last guy defo he's cute and he checks the other boxes that was given.

Saying it's all lies is assuming it's the same preference across the board. It never is!

[hellionthesagereborn]

No, but women OVER STATE the importance of personality. The fact is you can't say that personality is everything and then refuse to date a guy who only has personality and not looks (which is what the overwhelming majority of women do (and to be fair so do men its just men don't pretend like they don't unlike women)). The issue is women want a nice guy but refuse to date them, period. You can look at the data and it will tell you the same (According to studies, bullies get more sex, women find frowning men more attractive then smiling men, women find aloof men more attractive then friendly, they consider looks as important as the mans wealth (and wealth is important to women as studies have shown (men who have less money are less likely to get married, women are more likely to divorce if her husband makes less then her etc.)), 80% of women surveyed admitted to having a rape fantasy (not exactly fantasizing about a nice guy there are they?), 70% of all violent porn (gangbangs, forced sex, rough sex, rape, bdsm etc.) is consumed by women, if you look at the character archetypes of women's romance novels the most common are vampire (creature that kills to live), Pirate (robs, rapes and murderes for a living), and millionaire (filthy rich and socially acceptable ruthlessness). You want the bad boy, studies show it.).

[hellionthesagereborn]

Like I said though, its fine as long as you understand WHY. Women all want the bad boy because if they can change the bad boy into a good guy then that would signify she is special, she is more of a woman that she is so great that she could alter him to be more "civilized", that's the female fantasy. Male fantasy is getting the slut to want only him because it signifies that he is more masculine more manly and desirable then all others. In both cases this will NEVER happen. Once you realize why you gravitate to these things you can prevent it from controlling your behavior and actually go for the things you KNOW are better and preferable (like the good guy who will be loyal). But pretending like this doesn't exist just means you are going to keep falling for the same assholes and make the same mistakes over and over again while also pissing off the nice guys because they see that your not going after them even though you keep proclaiming to want them (how could that not drive a person insane? to do everything "right"(as far as the opposite sex is telling you) only to always fail? That's where a lot of bitterness comes from, not the loneliness or lack of sex (if you look most ugly guys just accept that they are never going to be wanted, they are depressed but not angry because they understand how the system works). Lying doesn't benefit anyone (and yes some select few women do go after good guys, but again, its rare).

[wynn-ing]

This is exactly what I was talking about. Assumption after assumption after assumption!
You are assuming far too many women to be like this and the other things you mentioned. There are far too many exceptions and women alone to just say "women" or "it's rare" or related stereotypical words.
And where are your stats and studies from? Sources would be appreciated because they sound outrageous. Stats also don't account for all women or even a majority. They have their own limitations and specifications that will skew the data greatly. With given context, they can be reliable but like this, with only 50% of the population to work on and nothing else, not at all. Women are VERY diverse and if you hadn't encountered that yourself, I'm sorry but it is a reality. Even the littlest of things can separate. Details are important.

There is no system. If you think there is, beat it. Be the best you can be in whatever way you can and I can literally guarantee you attention or a self worth worth it and commendable at the very least. Having such a narrow view of the opposite sex has never helped such people but actually regressed them. Concentrating on improving yourself has however - whether that be to find the mate or to find yourself. Lovers come after. Sometimes, lovers don't need to come because you're all you need. But that's beside the point.

I'm not denying that CERTAIN women are like how you say, in varying degrees and in roundabout ways but rather enough women are like that to label it a proboem against the whole other 50% population. It is just crazy.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Its not an assumption, those where studies done, that's the exact opposite of assumptions. Its also just common sense because every human being is going to have physical preferences, its quite literally part of biology. Are you seriously going to tell me that you have tall muscular man on the cover of every romance novel ever because they have the best personalities? Of course not, physical appearance matters, is it everything? No, but it is a factor and pretending like its not is just factually incorrect. As I said its not all women but it is the majority based upon multiple studies done on the subject (again, this is scientific fact).

[hellionthesagereborn]

Also I am not saying this because I can't get women, this is not self pity but a statement of fact. I don't know why every one presumes that its personal.

[KiraEmbers]

The original poster was rude and stereotyping all man, this one is exactly the same but aimed at all women. I am not judging I just want to know do you feel better after having posted this? I usually avoid trash that upsets me and don't waste my time giving those trolls the fix they need. I would never even consider writing a sentence or word to those trolls. Yet you took the time to write this whole thing, because you were upset. I guess that makes sense. I hope you feel better soon, also that person is not worth such a big response, after all you really did was let people like myself know her take existed. Which I didn't know until I read this post. Which is like shine the light on a cockroach instead of giving the limelight to the brave people that are trying to support, each other in this world.

[mistixs]

""women want a nice kind loyal funny guy with a good personality". Yeah right. Cuz it's not like there's an army of guys like this that are single and virgins."
If you're referring to self-proclaimed incels: incels aren't nice, kind, loyal, funny, and with good personalities.

[startingfitness]

no there are actually a lot of guys like that, who are single. im not talking incels

[myTake Owner]

@startingfitness true they aren't incels. I got many friends who are good men, they really tick all those boxes and most of them look quite good, and they always treat women with respect yet they always struggle with women.

[startingfitness]

yeah I know you were talking about this, but the women misinterpret it

[Tyler131]

@myTake Owner I also have many friends and i'm including myself in the mix. We are not "ugly" most people aren't. We are quality men with our lives together and are not anti-woman and we treat women with too much respect if anything... yet we struggle with women greatly. Then if we complain about it, women start calling us sexist. It's sad really.

[startingfitness]

@Tyler131 the treating them with (undeserved) respect is part of the problem.
one thing I have observed about every single man that is successful with women is that they dont treat them with respect.
they let them earn it first. and that goes for other aspects of the relationship as well.

most guys base their relationship upon how they treat the girl. they see her happiness and satisfaction as an indicator of how the relationship is going. that's where they shoot themselves in the foot.

men who are successful with women do not measure the relationship in terms of how they treat the girl, they measure it based on how they are treated. and their responses are based on that as well. if the girl is nice to them they reward her ( e. g with commitment). if she doesn't behave , they drop her. don't put up with sh*t because they know they got options. they do things based on their own terms, based on how good they feel.

And trust me when I say that this is the pattern with every single guy who is successful with women.
Now its hard to change into this mindset because most guys don't really have this abundance mentality , but first we need to stop with this pathetic scarcity mentality

[Tyler131]

@startingfitness omg you are completely right! Yes guys are often times willing to be walked all over because they don’t want to move on.

[startingfitness]

@Tyler131 yup, everyone has at least one friend like that

[myTake Owner]

@Tyler131 I don't think changing the "scarcity mindset" is quite the answer. If a lack of success with women causes the scarcity mindset and the scarcity mindset causes a lack of success with women then it becomes a paradox. Something has to come first.

I believe the scarcity mindset is the result and the lack of women is the cause. In other words if you could brainwash yourself into having an abundance mindset that wouldn't necessarily improve your results. It could just make you look like a jerk.

[Tyler131]

@myTake Owner sounds like you refuse to take risks. You have to in life, that’s the only way you succeed in love and business. With a scarcity mindset, you will fail in both. It doesn’t matter if you have a lack of women available because in the end, If you act and behave as if there is a lack of women available to you, you will settle for less than you deserve and tolerate more than you should. It has nothing to do with the lack of women. I lack women because I’m petite and there is nothing I can do about that, but I will not settle. I could easily get a girl whom I’m not attracted to, but that would be worse than being single.

[startingfitness]

yeah it is a paradox. but I think camouflaging could work. human behaviour changes. if you spend enough time around guys like that and act like them you eventually become the same.

I didn't even want to be like my friend at first, but over time I did internalize and adapt a lot of his attitudes

[myTake Owner]

@startingfitness listen to me on this... At the highest level the guy doesn't even have to approach the girl. Maybe he doesn't even have to talk to her to attract her. Sometimes the guy doesn't even notice her or want her and she's already sold on him. That's the highest level, you basically do nothing and women give you the looks or hit on you and then it's easy.

She doesn't need to know you like her to be attracted. She might not even need to talk to you to be attracted. So if that's the case then how do they display this "abundance mindset" without hitting on her? They don't. So you don't need it.

I think it's about a completely different thing. When a woman wants to sleep with you it's always because she thinks you'll be good in bed. What do most women want in bed? A dominant manly guy. So she's looking for signs of dominance in men. Abundance mindset can help convey dominance, but if there's no substance behind it you'll just end up looking like a jerk.

[startingfitness]

but those guys are so few in number that it actually doesn't matter. we can't aspire to be like them. most guys can work their entire life and won't become like them.

im talking about more average men who are successful with women. and the only difference I see between them and other guys is the different mindset. overall I don't see any other differences.

but perhaps they are like that because they have higher testosterone and are naturally more manly

[Anonymous]

I have realized this same scenario. Women like to say what is expected of them so they seem to be "down to earth" and level headed. I have been with women, drinking a bit and telling all. A lot of them tell me they always seem to wind up with the bad boys and that they should have married the class nerd. I joined a dating site and chatted with several women of which I took a couple out to dinner. When they saw that I was short and a little on the thin side, I never saw them again. One of them was a police woman who asked me if it bother me if a woman was the same height as me? I told her it would not, but again, I never saw her again.

[MzAsh]

Well your shit attitude makes you extremely unattractive. Edgy and masculine my ass. Sit the fuck down.

[dbr1987]

He's right again, if he is not why you take offense on this post. Telling a guy to sit the fuck down.. Actually a pretty good equasion with what he says, you want to domesticate men.. The only thing is that he does not know women believe there own lies that they want a domesticated guy.. You tell him he has a shit attitude, he expresses his emotions, even more civilized than your "shitty attitude" We are talking double Standards here

[MzAsh]

What about men’s lies and hypocritical behavior? I could write a book about that. In fact I might someday. I have a man who acts like a gentleman.

[dbr1987]

I hope you get a breakthrough with your writing then. It will be placed within the fiction section hehe. Anyways i am happy 4u you have a good husband

[HZ_R32]

Babe don’t even get into that discussion 😂 the anonymous author opinion is total sexist bullshit.

[dbr1987]

HZ_R32 how dare you call her babe, you might get arrested for your sexist behaviour #youtoo

[HZ_R32]

who said I called her?

[HZ_R32]

Lmao dude @dbr1987

[dbr1987]

Hahahahaha you called her babe, you didn't really called her.

[dbr1987]

@HZ_R32 YES #METOO👊

[HZ_R32]

I have a better one for ya @dbr1987 🖕

[CasaNorba]

you forgot to add "to me" after unattractive. also a person who knows nothing about masculinity should not be trying so damn hard to judge, that's a hypocrite's role which is what he pretty much sum up in this take

[Anonymous]

Wow, pathetic. You are asking for sex saying that you have to give someone money , pay for somebody when in reality you cannot even afford a nice restaurant to her, if you take her there you ask to split the bill 😹, everything - split, she pays her bills and meanwhile you want her to entertain you, take care of you, be pretty, fit and loyal only to you. Buy yourself a fucking toy, and put it on the shelf. If your standards are up to the sky be sure you match them , ugh. How old and immature someone could be to not understand that?

[Opinion Owner]

Yea exactly, don’t put it on me. You all so noble as I see eh? Ridiculous creatures, winning about hypocrisy and how poor you faggots are. You cannot even be called a men. @casanorba

[Opinion Owner]

Again , author buy yourself a toy. You require a lot and don’t even match those requirements you are putting out there. To get something you have to give something back. The one materialistic bitch is you. And WFT you ask girls opinions on your bullshit if you cannot even respect ones that are different from yours? Buy a toy again.

[HZ_R32]

Oh don’t even bother there are plenty of jerks without balls out there putting all on women

[dbr1987]

@HZ_R32 So whiteknighting for women shows you have balls.. it shows you have tuck them between your legs😎

[HZ_R32]

Being respectful to other gender have nothing to do with the shit you are saying. @dbr1987

[CasaNorba]

oh wow the tough feminazi that thinks she's entitled to define what a man is but deletes other people's comments and then blocks people to get the last word decides to come out back out of her cave, ey?

[CasaNorba]

@HZ_R32 being a white knight and "respectful to other gender" aren't the same

[bailey11]

Did it trigger you because it hit a nerve?

If men don't need women's vaginas, why do men go to so much trouble to get access to them?

I know guys who are womanizers and they can't get women. Women are learning that womanizers aren't worth the drama.

My wife married me and I'm ugly (and not rich).

[jasco]

honestly i have dated a lot of girls in my time so i can't agree with u on not cause all of the girls i have dated love me for me and i was basically broke so they didn't want my money and plus i am a virgin so i haven't had sex with any of them so they weren't craving my meat 2nd i don't need a women cat just be happy i mean i want someone yea but not enough to just go hunting for it i want more then that i want happiness love attention care faithfulness support laughter and many other things

[myTake Owner]

Buddy you're 17. And a virgin. Sexless Dating in high school is not romance. Come back when you know where to put it

[jasco]

old man how about u stop being a dick and actually get a life cause for one romance isn't just sex u dip shit its more then that its about knowing that ur partner won't cheat on u no matter what guy or girl comes his or her way romance is more then sex ik that trust me i do and honestly even if i do get sex it won't change my answer

[myTake Owner]

Then go get it tiger

[jasco]

nah rather wait till i am married

[Moonchild714]

If you Hate Women so Much, go see how many Men Spread Their Ass Cheeks for You!!!

You're just Another Guy who Strikes Out with women probably because You're Shy and Awkward but Our Fault You Can't Communicate with Us!!!

[CasaNorba]

I dont see why he would want to communicate with lunatics.

isn't Luna Spanish for moon btw? and why is a 48 year old calling herself a "child"

[Moonchild714]

@CasaNorba, google your question and you'll get the answer.

[Hannah313]

i like it when guys say this, as if they are going after girls who are unattractive but expect women to be some type of martyr.
you need the person to be attractive to you for the relationship to work. period.
youve got a nice guy complex going. you’re not entitled to a woman’s body. if that’s your goal, you’re a dick.

[foriWish]

Oh shut up. We have preferences as well. Would you date an objectively unattractive woman? I doubt it

[startingfitness]

that's not the point. he is saying to be direct, and open about it.

[foriWish]

@startingfitness And he also said something along the lines of why not marry the second guys who has good qualities. I'm responding to that.

Also many men, just as many women are indirect about feelings and lie. It isn't a specific gender thing

[startingfitness]

true. but I do agree that when it comes to who we like men are more direct and less contradictory than women.

[myTake Owner]

@foriWish no I wouldn't but at least I'm not lying about it. I like a nice butt thin hips and some breasts. There you go. I told you the way it is. Why can't women do the same?

[foriWish]

You people are assuming lie about that. I am a woman and I know what I like. Just because I like a nice guy doesn't mean I'll date an unattractive nice guy. Some sexual feeling have to be there for a relationship to work so it is common sense that no one wants to date or have sex with someone they find unattractive. If that's lying to you so than educate yourselves