Twerking is NOT "female empowerment" and it LOWERS the standard in which men perceive you! (Page 2)
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Twerking is not just a dance to express yourself in a sexual way or female empowerment.
People just take something and brainwash others. Twerking is just a dance move, dont make a big deal of it.
Using twerking as female empowerment is the same thing as choosing any other dance moves and making it into something else.
I don't know if twerking is originaly from Africa, but that is were people Dance like that mostly, and it is beautiful and not an asult. Twerking is a cultural dance, just like salsa dance in Spain.
Absolutely!
Who the fuck cares how men see us though. It's been installed in us from very early ages that how men perceive us is one of the most important things when it actually isn't. If a woman wants to twerk, how does that effect you? It doesn't. You're pick me attitude is showing.
Those women wish for men to see them as something other than a sex object, and that is why they chat those phrases. It's why the whole matter began because they do, in fact, care how the world views them. And we all do care to some extent. It's silly to deny that.
Perception is exercised when establishing trust, building friendships/relationships, starting careers, and so forth. It matters a great deal.
If those women are unbothered by any of what I stated, then please, do proceed! But it is maddening to have to witness them living in idiotic deception when the solution to it is so simple.
Of course everyone cares to an extent how people view us BUT nobody puts pressure on men the same way they do females. If I want to twerk, it isn't fair to judge me based off of that solely. Someone can twerk their ass off by night and be a business woman by day. How someone choices to dance doesn't make them trashy. It means they do what they want in life. I promise these women that YOU look down on still get married, still have loyal boyfriend/husbands. Have children. Have good paying jobs. Have friends. Are overall happy. Probably happier than you because they don't spend their life caring about how men with low self esteem and sexism view them.
Twerking whores gtfo , lames ya snag rags she ain't valuable she still a hoe though no difference like the hoes up in here too 💯😂
& no dummy they hoes in life always will be 💯🚮😂
@TraceyByrd Funny way to type out "I'm insecure". Someone isn't a whore for twerking. Do you even know what makes someone a whore? You two women sound really stupid and it gets you validation from no one. Get your shit together. Women get called all sorts of names all the time for stupid shit and here you are adding to it. You should be ashamed of yourself. Twerking is a form of dance, if someone wants to do it. They're allowed to, mind your damn business.
@TraceyByrd You are so crazy. You called me a whore in dms and then blocked me. Nut case.
I totally agree, so well written, it's condradictory to me for girls to attract attention by presenting themselves as sexual objects, then are uncomfortable by being viewed as a sexual object,,,
Eg if I see a girl in a short skirt and skimpy top, I assume she wants to be looked at, with more modest clothing I assume not,,,
Personally I find twerking boring and a turn-off, but that's just me, what would turn me on more is voluntary work helping the vulnerable, or just a random act of kindness,,,
Thank you!
Me seeing the females' comments be like:
C'mon, if the "my body my choice" was really equally applied, men could walk in the streets naked torso without being annoyed. Other example, why women says that people don't have to sexualise anything when they can on the other side make a living of their bodies by the same media (tiktok, onlyfans,...)?
The fact that young people's see this is a problem to, because childhood is make to be a child, not a pre-aduldhood. Especially because childs can't imitate adults without having adults' problems, this isn't a game.
And, what's the next step? Womens will be able to chill around naked torso? Because people don't have to sexualise anything...
The fact that we avoid some behaviours made society's rules, the same way that we wear clothes
yeah i don't understand feminazis thes days. first they complain about "poor girls" are being "subjectified" by dancing half naked in the backround of some rapper... and then women go ahead and shake their asses and titts in any possible occasion calling the same thing "empowerment"? wtf. get real. i mean if you like being a whore for others, good for you. not my business... but don't give me this "i'm not doing it for the attention" crap. of course you are.
So backwards.
my theory, it's "less attracitve women" complaining about female subjectification. that's what you see in those raging feminists. they're ugly as fuck and sore that they don't get the sexual attention those girls get.
if they were pretty, they'd do the same shit. if you're ugly, don't compete with "beauty" xD that's just moronic. and why would you complain about men only seeing her for her body? you obviously don't want that type of guy. i just don't get the fuzz. if you got something to show and you like showing it, good for you xD if you don't have that or don't like doing that, just don't. to each their own, as they say.
More absurdly some feminists say men who have casual sex with women disrespect women because they objectify them yet those same feminists say women who have casual sex with men are empowering and strong women.
If we combine this two what we will get is casual sex objectifies and empowers women. 🤦🏼♀️
@marish01 yeah. i think it's also funny that women always only fight for more women in "white collar jobs" but nobody asks about female plumbers or women in dirty, dangerous and crappy payed jobs that men do xD it's like "yeah you can keep the shitty dangerous jobs, we only want the good ones".
sorry i meant to say "feminists" not women xD not all women are unreasonable or stupid xD just "most" feminists.
but so are male feminists in my opinion xD so no sexism from my side.
I have been debating with them for years on social media and I have yet to meet a feminist who is not dumb.
Some of the dumbest things they told me
"A man has no right to decide whom to date"
"The baby inside a woman's womb is not a human being because it can't breath, move, talk and walk".
"You have no right to have a negative opinion on female promiscuity"
Feminists inspired me to create my youtube channel and make videos about them.
@marish01 tell me about it xD i studied social science. lots of people there missunderstand the very fundamentals of science. you're not there to find evidence for what you want to be true. that's exactly what those folks always do tho... and some even get a degree doing that. it's ridiculous.
by the way, i have no negative opinion towards promisquous girls. it's all good fun for a while. i get it. just don't get stuck in it xD that's bad for mental health.
Those "experts" are the reason why I don't believe in science anymore.
They make up stupid theories and call them FACTS just to brainwash people for their agendas.
Feminism has become a cult 🤢. When I talk to them I feel like talking to bots. They repeat feminist quotes and statements without understanding if they fit the context.
For example once I left a comment on a feminist post about cellulite being normal.
I commented "normal? Yes. Hot? No"
The replies I got were ridiculous.
A girl said "we don't dress for men".
What? What does that have to do with me thinking cellulite is not hot.
Why did she say something that has nothibg to do with my comment? Lol because she didn't use her own brain.
I had a profile picture, my page was public, I linked my youtube page. She knew I'm a girl.
But she brought up men because feminists do say "we don't dresss for men" whenever they feel insecure. They learn feminist statements by heart and use them in arguments. The reason why I think they are brainwashed is because they don't use their own brains. They learn what their cult says and accept them as fact.
When you call some service bot asks you questions, right? And based on your WORDS it automatically turns on the recorded answers, right?
Feminists are like them lol
@marish01 science doesn't need to be "believed in" it's made not be critiqued and doubted. it's actually made in such a way, that "believe" is not needed. you're supposed to read, think for yourself, and test if it's true yourself. that's the scientific process. i think we have a big missunderstanding of what exactly science is in society. just cause someone is a scientist, doesn't know he's right... but that also doesn't mean, some uneducated idiot that's shouting down a public speech is any more right xD
but to reassure you: at least in germany where i studied it, left-tards and sjws usually don't get a higher education degree. the professors are actually very good in "most" cases. most of those feminazis don't make it past bachelors.
by the way i also did a gender studies 101 course. i was surprised to learn that feminism historically did actually not fight in favor of women. cause the majority of women did explicitly NOT want, what the feminists were fighting for.
i personally love discussing with feminists xD it gives me some very weird pleasure to see how their idiotic arguments crumble under the burden of facts. most can't take it and just get angry at me and hate me personally, as if i was at fault for the facts xD
*** it's made TO be critiqued and doubted
I hate debating them because their idiocy ruins my day.
Modern feminists are bunch of insecure women who need unity to not feel like they are the only ones to have those issues (obesity, ugliness, bad exes, no male attention, etc)
@marish01 i think they have unity and that's the problem. they are a tiny minority but get media exposure as if they are the majority. that's the issue. the internet gave them that unity. the internet allows idiots with stupidly wrong ideas a forum and a place to meet and not feel weird with what they think... that's how shit like "flat earth" can survive in a modern internet age. stupidity accumulates, bonds together and gains traction. cause "normal people" don't usually need such forums.
@marish01 normally, they'd just feel as "unnormal" as they actually are and maybe adjust their behavior for the better instead of insisting that their way is right.
All they care about is
expressing hatred for and/complaint against men
Female dominated society (matriarchy)
Priviliege in the name of oppression
Getting rid of their insecurities aboyt their looks body positivity
I don't know if I missed anything
@marish01 yeah, they refuse to understand why the genders are different. they rather just assume it's unfair and needs to stop.
@marish01 My daughter started mocking & ridiculing feminism without any prompting from me , aged just 12. Aged just 8 , she commented on how unfair it is that boys / men get bashed constantly , the well funded and legally backed feminists & other Cultural Marxists are the driving force behind this. Sadly , idiotic as they are , they do wield a significant influence , this is all by design.
@FatherJack it's funny how little children see that but not some "mature" women and men...
@FatherJack When I was 10 or 11 I saw feminists naked burning their bras and I said who are these clowns? I was so embarrassed that they acted that way. it was so cringy.
Feminists always want to find excuses to go naked it's their animalistic instinct they use their instinct not rationality. I'm sorry but to me they are lower than human beings.
@marish01 yeah they think men force them to wear bras or something xD nobody gives a shit actually. they're making their own enemies up int heir mind. they're a bit like don quijote. just less noble.
They make up things. They always want to blame men and find excuses for showing off their naked bodies. They do those 2 things for just attention. They want male attention
@marish01 yeah it's like rubbing your tits and pussy against a man but "still not asking for it" xD wtf dude. if you don't want sex, that badly, wear a freaking chasity belt or something.
Posts a half naked photo and writes a caption "still not asking for rape" then uses hashtag believe rape victims.
They tease men and use rape as a tool for not getting critisize because rape is a horrible crime and whoever critisizes anti rape messages is a horrible human being.
All their posts about rape show half naked selfies or cartoon.
They don't care about rape victims they use rape victims in their sex positivity agendas in order to get sympathy from people for not getting condemned for being half naked or for sleeping around. Like I mentioned before they always find excuses for being nude. No wonder why they want to represent the slut walk as march for rape victims or march for ending rape. When in reality they use rape as an excuse for pushing the agenda of sex positivity where women are not ceitisized for sleeping around. Also "my clothes do not mean consent" is another excuse for them to go half naked and say that even when they're half naked that is not consent. No one says that its consent but they push their agenda Because it allows them to be half naked.
@marish01 exactly... acting as if somehow guys do not agree that rape is horribly bad and nobody should do it. but yeah. hat's the theme with feminists. if it can be used for their cause, they use it. but they will flip out if somenoe uses the same thing against them.
Women in general want to do what a man does and they call it equality well actually they are just copying the men they so fight we don't care for what men do or say but in true nature they adore men and follow them that's how it's designed.
If you think it always have been the same what ever a men dan di we can do but why do you want to do what he does do you really like that or you just want to prove your worth I feel strange sometimes if I think at deeper levels of this I could be completely wrong or I could have a reasonable point.
Also women hate being objectified but men like being objectified being a sex symbol he becomes proud of what he does even the sleasiest of things and this somehow makes women insecure and they try to justify there doings
I know this is slightly different answer than the post but is still valid to some extent 🙃.
I agree with that as well. When you know and are proud of who you are, you don't have to prove yourself to anyone.
Exactly be better donot copy bring the change than expecting others to change
drop it like it's hot, don't twerk
Lmao at anyone who twerks and thinks it doesn't make you look like a total slut.
Don't take that the wrong way, you can do it and not be one but it's such a far cry from being empowering lol. It's literally the move strippers do to let you know it's time to put dollars in their underwear
Glad to see there's still some sensible people in the world.
I hate everything about it. And it's not even sexy. If you want to make yourself look like a stupid attention seeker, twerk. God, even the name for it is annoying.
Lol, true.
Is there actually anybody who actually thinks it's female empowerment?
Oh wait... yeah! That's it! It's female empowerment! I get it! ;)
Twerk away girls... empower yourselves! Stand up for your rights!!! Girl power!!! The hell with those sexist men!!! TWERK 'em into submission!
Bro...
@MzAsh For blocking me, You just proved me right. For the same reason you're calling overly demonizing cat callers. Also advocating for the cat calling law. Well guess what? Anyone can easily get accused of cat calling which is also why they get away with it easier. The stricter the law gets, the more the government is gonna burden themselves while you don't want to do your parts too. Perhaps you read properly so that you won't get lost? And sure go ahead and don't learn. No one is name calling you here. I'm saying it makes you entitled. If you want to prove me right, just block anyone who you think is "disrespectful" while you freely make your own opinion and posts.
Also I thought you like to "embarrass" cat callers so why you now anonymizing yourself?
It’s a dance. It’s not my thing but hypothetically, if I was twerking... and let me make this clear, no one is entitled to touch or harass that person in any way. If that ever happened to me, there will be consequences. Men are going to be held responsible for their actions, regardless of how a woman dresses or dances. No excuses.
What consequences would you give your internet viewers if you were in this situation?
It depends on what they say and the severity of the situation. I might hit them back, embarrass them, block them, or use them to my advantage.
A lot of blocking, then.
I really don’t block as many people as I probably should.
Hmm.
Other women do that. I don’t. Regardless, what a woman wears is no excuse to disrespect her.
Looking is one thing. Staring is another. But if says something, I’ll make him regret it. And if he touches me, he’ll definitely regret it.
You can take quick glances at someone and know they’re staring at you. Also, that is not the trade. Cat calling is considered street harassment and is illegal in some states. I love to embarrass men who cat call. One time I scared a guy and had him running for his life.
Cat calling is never cool and I highly encourage anyone getting cat called to implement consequences.
I choose to correct bad behavior when I see it.
Hormones aren’t bad. Cat calling is.
Nothing you’re saying has anything to do with anything I said. You must be drunk. Happy new year!
No you just lost me once you started calling me entitled. So you either start being more respectful or you’re getting blocked.
Your behavior is entirely inappropriate. Please don’t message me again.
You're not "entitled" but yeah sure I can predict you're gonna delete this one. This is gonna be the last. www.youtube.com/watch
You’re wrong. Again.
And so are you
I presume you're wrong unless you prove it to me
About what?
You're wrong for calling me wrong. You just erased the evidence that i gave. My comment here is a back up by the way. So go ahead and prove me wrong
You first.
That video proves it. My comment here proves it. The power of hypocrisy is talked about in that video. Now before you say im wrong and no one agrees with me, check the view count and like/dislikes ratio
It only proves that men are desperately reaching for a power play against women. Cat calling is a way they do it. I’ve had men admit that to me. It’s a show if disrespect.
"For the same reason you're calling overly demonizing cat callers. Also advocating for the cat calling law. Well guess what? Anyone can easily get accused of cat calling which is also why they get away with it easier. The stricter the law gets, the more the government is gonna burden themselves while you don't want to do your parts too. Perhaps you read properly so that you won't get lost? And sure go ahead and don't learn. No one is name calling you here. I'm saying it makes you entitled. If you want to prove me right, just block anyone who you think is "disrespectful" while you freely make your own opinion and posts." That still answers your statement. Really tho what do men take a way from you if they just cat call? Your position? Your income? What do they get? Those men who "admitted" are anecdotes. If you want anecdotes, I've also got women admitting that they just like attention.
I do believe some forms of cat calling should be illegal. But it’s difficult to enforce so that’s why I don’t blame a girl for turning around and putting the fear of god in him. Cat callers wouldn’t harass another man on the street for fear he’d retaliate. They need to have that same fear of women they cat call.
"I do believe some forms of cat calling should be illegal. But it’s difficult to enforce" <-- Then you just gave a reason why it shouldn't be illegal. That itself justifies what I'm talking about when what is not difficult to do is just to not care. "for fear he’d retaliate" and that guy who's gonna retaliate gets charged for assault. So if a girl retaliates for getting cat called, she should be charged then? Because that is considered domestics violence
I'm still asking tho, what do men take a way from you if they just cat call? Your position? Your income? What do they get? You didn't even answer.
You’re trying to place the burden on the woman to not care when it belongs on the cat caller to just not cat call. What does it take away from us when they cat call? Human decency, that’s what.
Ok it's definitely a "burden" to just have words said to you but it's definitely not a burden if you want to ruin the guys life just because he wanted to express relieve himself or wanted to be comfortable while freely go out naked being comfortable. Really I was talking about entitlement and you are proving your hypocrisy again like double standards. Again that is the trade. So again do you really want men to be soy boys for your sake? Yeah i also talk about what men's hormones feel like which you are so in denial about all your feelings it what matters to you.
In other words you just like to burden the government by simply letting them do all the dirty work for you while you don't do your responsibility
I never said anything about ruining anyone’s life or even violence. I’d appreciate if you didn’t dream up things I never said. Secondly, I've been cat called while wearing my work clothes. This isn’t about what women are wearing.
I’ve successfully gotten men to apologize to me for cat calling without laying a hand on them. It was a simple exchange (initiated by them since they were the ones who cat called). It all could have been avoided if they’d just have kept their mouths shut. There are plenty of other healthy and respectful ways men can express their hormones. Billions of non-cat calling men have been doing it for centuries. The bottom line is cat calling is not acceptable behavior and they need to understand and respect that.
Yes cat call can be annoying but still is it really enough to be considered considered oppression that it should really be against the law? The is kind a like if someone bumps into you purposely or not, you responses to shoot him and call it justice. Do you even have to tell you that women can cat call men too? But most of the time they are never address because do we care? Whoever said that it is acceptable? The only issue here is that you're making words a really big issue. Let you really want to retaliate with a bigger consequence just because you think it is disrespectful. Talk about being disrespectful, being entitled is.
I know you're still haven't took a look at the video yet. This is why you still keep bringing argument that can still be answered by the video i gave.
Women want to control men with their sexuality, but they don't want to be "sexualized"... unless they want to be sexualized, which they don't, expect when they do. But men shouldn't see women as sex objects, unless women WANT to be seen as sex objects, but they don't, but actually they sometimes do...
Same as it ever was.
I think lol
lol :)
It's literally just a dance, if someone wants to do something with their bodies let them
Just some enlightening advice. I literally can not control them, so don't worry, Lazy.
It's because what many females don't understand is that men fetishize and sexualize as. They see us as sex objects sometimes.
@Cupcakes_No_Flakes my fetishes, what I find sexual and fantasies are none of you business. So how about stop blaming man for there fantasies and things they find attractive? If you do something that they find sexual and they act towards you in sexual way, only then you can call them out, rest of it is there own business. Same for woman you can sexualize man the fuck you want, but keep it to yourself, you should know where the deam line and how not to put your hands on man ass. If man have ok idea where that line is, then there is no line for woman since so many have this idea that they can do prety much anything they want.
I think it is disgusting, and they are demeaning themselves, and 'advertising' that they want sex, even the under-age ones, not really even knowing, which is MORE DISGUSTING!!
One of the women, at work, was showing a video of her 12 year old daughter, doing that, in super-tight yoga pants, and they were all saying she has some 'Talent' or 'Dance Skills'!! WTF?
Skills, yeah, like on a Stripper Pole!! Disgusting!!!
Totally inappropriate.
Twerking causes harm? That gave me a good laugh. The power of the twerking booty compels you!!! Hahahahahahaha
Stop the victim blaming bullshit. It minimizes the actual problem and it silences male victims. And please explain to me how we're the number one country in the world when we have homeless veterans and bread lines?
Totally. You got the right message across.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/pPw_izFr5PAFilth is filth.
Twerking isn't even cool. Here's exactly how twerking girls make themselves look like.
Lol...
I 100% agree and HATE that we're living in a world where your post would be considered "controversial."
RIGHT 😂😂 the fact that people disagree is scary.
People want to return to monkey. x'D
Your word are fact! Unfortunately today we aren’t allowed to have opinions so I’m sure you will get a lot of hate! I hate when I see women lowering them self to such a level. Just do porn if that what they want. How many young girls are looking up to them or their parents/themselves are listening to the degrading music and learning it okay to be disrespected. Makes me sad and worries for the world my kids will see
Same here. They can do so much better but they just choose to follow the crowd.
Oh here’s an amazing idea. How about everyone minds their own business?
How 'bout not putting it online for the world to see then it won't be everyone's business.
How about not being pressed about something that it is not harmful to you and doesn’t affect you at all?
Obviously didn't read the myTake.
Twerking does not lower your standards or class. Its a dance. How you treat others and how you allow others to treat you determine character. Doing what's right when no one is looking... stuff like that.
This is a dance. If anything, its another free tool women have to manipulate and control men.