Agree or disagree? Confidence turns women off

[Anonymous]

I think the core reason so many women dislike Andrew Tate is that he is over reliant on confidence and boldness. It's his whole personality. The same could be said of Donald Trump.

But at least he has some confidence. Other guys...these days it seems lkke most guys... take it to to the other extreme: unregulated emotion. Even worse: vulnerability.

You never want to be vulnerable as a man. You should be more like a wolf than a sheep, more like the predator than prey.

Over confidence is hot. No doubt. But women aren't looking for just hot, a hook up. Most women are turned on by Tate for that reason. But they don't like him. However I have heard when women meet Tate in person they're surprised how real he actually is.

Women are looking for a true personality. Like a character from a book or a movie. Nobody wants to be around a baby...unless it's a literal baby.

If you lack emotional intelligence perhaps it's better to simply rely on being generally confident. But if you can keep the big picture in mind and project the appropriate mood at the appropiate intensity, maybe a mood you barely even actually feel, you will be extremely attractive. Without ever actually having any other talent... (Think of Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin.) Your whole personality is about maximizing influence.

There should be hints of confidence, hints of humility, joy, sadness, hope, despair...for everything, an opposite. And when you're over confident the only other option is total humiliation. Hence the strong reaction women have towards Tate.

[IcyOJ]

Well said woman who is “her own man”

I agree with you tho… all my homies that are confident pull all the females.. while the couple dudes I know that are shy, timid, beta type shits pull no girls. Matter of fact I’ve never seen my basketball buddy Nick with a girl in the 7 years I’ve known him… and he’s not gay he likes girls just too pussy to approach them. Me I used to be like Nick when I was like 12-15 when I was heavily wrongly medicated for bipolar and skizophrenik meds when I only had Tourette’s (they were off label uses) Iduno what the Nick’s are of the world’s problems are… when I was 16-18 I was ok confidence wise… 23-now I’m 28 I’m fine getting women I want. Especially in person. Not so good on dating sites tho… everyone tells me I’m not photogenic if they do meet from those. I’d rather look better in real life than in photos anyway tho

[IcyOJ]

25* now

[jshm2]

Don't be silly.

The Tate and Trump issues are nothing to do with confidence. So your question and laughable "analysis" is moot.

The thing about confidence is that too few guys understand the line where it crosses into arrogance, or falls into creepy.

Usually when you read about r/niceguys and the sort of shit they have said or typed, they don't understand why the advance was knocked back. A rational male will look at it and see the flags. An incel or clown, will not.

[myTake Owner]

I'm not being silly. Women hate on over confident men to test their confidence. It's called a "shit test" among the "piece of shits" aka "pick up artists." It's a primitive reaction to confidence.

[Anonymous]

It's not confidence that makes Tate so unlikeable. Confidence always makes a man more attractive. It's some of his attitudes toward women that are his problem. Personally I think he has a lot of positive and useful things to say for men, but he doesn't need to be misogynistic to say them. And yet he is.

[myTake Owner]

On the question where I asked why women don't compliment men you all said so he doesn't get too confident

[Opinion Owner]

I don't care what 3 women said. Everyone knows women find confidence attractive in men.

[myTake Owner]

Read the post I said they do. But in modern contexts they don't.

[BoopBoopBeep]

In modern context they still do. There's a difference between confidence and conceit. I have plenty of the former, but I can objectively support it and measurably demonstrate it. I'm not a conceited person. Women find me attractive. Seems pretty cut and dry.

[Anonymous]

No it does not turn me off in particular. I actually didn’t find Tate attractive at first and after watching most of his stuff I suddenly found him alluring just based off his way of thinking. I prefer men to be that way.

[Opinion Owner]

When I first saw the is man I didn’t know who he was. First impression he’s ugly.

After watching few vids because they’re everywhere..

His way of reasoning just comes off as attractive. I agree with 99.9999999% of what he says

[Opinion Owner]

I want to say fat/overweight liberal Biden lover women are the type to dislike this man based on what he says lol the reasons are very clear. He dislikes fat people/ women in particular.

[myTake Owner]

So you think men should be physically unattractive

[Opinion Owner]

No. He doesn’t have a super attractive face. He has a super attractive body but that’s not the overall attraction, but rather his view of life how he talks about thinks and in general the way he thinks. He’s not hideous but his way of expressing himself makes his average looks escalate. People who dislike him are likely majority fat liberal women and or all those he sue they thems type of people

[0verthinkExpert]

Confidence with a healthy balance of humility and respect is very attractive. Confidence that burrs the line to arrogant or egotist is a turn off.

I think it comes down to the reason or goal behind a man's confidence. For example, if a man is confident about his skills and work ethic, but is more humble with the success that he has achieved... I would say that is a turn on. However if a man arrogantly puts his achievements on a pedestal and becomes confident because he thinks he is better than everyone else in the room... that's a turn off. Arrogant men are usually petty and shallow (same can be said about women too.)

For confidence to be attractive it needs to be paired with character and awareness. I find confidence from a solid man with character to be very attractive.

[ZamerZ]

There's a difference between confidence and arrogance. Tate is arrogant and tries to pass that insufferable streak off as confidence. Everyone gravitates towards people to whom they can relate to and who are comfortable being themselves, who have passion, a life, hobbies, things that excite them. Someone "confidently" bragging about how many cars they have and how rich they are isn't the kind of CoNfIdEnCe I am interested in.

I don't like overly insecure men that you constantly have to reassure with everything. But I prefer a kindhearted, authentic guy who's goal isn't only to impress others around him so he has confidence. That's just a fucking turn-off.

[rtj1211]

Totally depends on your definition of confidence.

True confidence is only shown in situations that most would find deeply unsettling. Coping with a stressful unexpected situation well is something that women are highly attracted to.

Bigging yourself up is not, however, true confidence.

Some women want a man to need her and they may be the women turned off by a truly confident man. A truly confident man doesn't NEED a woman, they desire to be with a woman instead, as that will add more than they can experience alone.

I've had women ask me 'if i can live without her' and my answer is always 'Yes'. The reason is that I had to survive very tough times without a woman as a young man, so I know that I can always survive alone easily. Some women find that scary, others feel strongly attracted, feeling that they don't need to mother a partner.

[DaveJord]

I disagree, women like confident men. I mean as a man I do not like insecure women. But there is a healthy degree of confident, and then there is that line in which that confidences can turn unhealthy and when that happens it manifests itself as coming across as arrogant, cocky, or narcissistic.

Let's be honest, narcissists like Donald Trump, are extremely confident.

The difference is that women and men like self-assured people, and it's all good to be confident and self-assured, but when you start putting yourself above other people... then you cross that line between being confident vs overconfident, self-assured vs. self-involved or self-centered.

[Kaamraj]

The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. Andrew Tate deserves his confidence has he has achieved much in his life and in total he's a force for good. All the charges against him are bogus and cannot stand the test of law. Confidence is a must for men, it's better to be over confident than under confident, it conveys perceived value. Some of the most sucessful men out there even if they are bums are confident and that conveys that they are higher value which may or may not be true in real life.

[WhiteBoyChill]

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[spacemoth]

Yeah no. There’s a sizable difference between being confident and arrogant. I love confident/bold men, but not so much when they’re constantly and blatantly misogynistic, hypocritical, and/or vain. You’re insecure? I got reassurance to the moon. You’re really confident? Tell me all about it while I admire you. Only thing is don’t be an asshole.

I’ve even dated guys I don’t find attractive physically attractive, but if there sweet lover boys and have a great sense of humor, I’m swooned.

[Jersey2]

Women know jacksh! t about how to pick a guy which is why so many of them file for divorce. Pathetic. So many guys talk a good game but can’t produce and women fall for the smooth talking. Who has time for those games…

Other guys talk about real success and some women find it intimidating/cocky/arrogant. A random pick is better than a woman’s intuition of what is good husband material. I found my wife early in so all good here. I wouldn’t like to date today’s average 30 year old woman.

[Sharkstealth]

Ted Bundy was raised by a woman who lost her husband and sexually repressed him to be the man of the house. He realized later that he could convince girls to help him by acting injured but also be more willing because of his good looks. Then as they were helping knock them out and abduct them where he would later rape and cut their limbs off. He would return and have sex with their dead corpses. This made it much easier to repeat the process over and over again because he realized the emotional fault of women perceiving having recent sex as confidence.

[inhua]

no amount of confidence is going to make women think this man is attractive

looks will always be prioritized first

[Quigly]

Confidence and arrogance are very close bedfellows.

Donald Trump has Education and experience. Therefore, He has confidence in his education and experience. He takes a position and gets attacked for it. He knows he will be attacked for it cause many are lobbying to extort money from the Government and people. He stands his ground cause he knows from experience and education that he is right.

Joe Biden does not have an education in economics or anything for that matter, he is puppet behind a podium, . It takes a very arrogant person to run for office, stand behind a podium with no education and experience in anything and take over the country while telling you he knows what's best for the country.

Joe Biden = arrogance

[DermalPunch]

No, cockiness and transparent bravado turn women off. Shrewd women see the scared little boys cowering in the corner when we see these so called manly men. Men with true confidence don't need to plaster themselves and their muscles all over the Internet. Reeks of emptiness and a need for external validation.

There is a calm about truly grounded men.

Also, from my extensive experience with heavily tattooed people, they are always disturbed emotionally, mentally and spiritually.

[Lara_Croft]

I think Andrew is intelligent and indeed confident, but his confidence is founded on the things of the world-his wealth, bugattis haha, good looks and pull that he has which makes him attractive to many women but it's all on things that perish. One needs Godfidence, having confidence in God and not in oneself, that I think is the confidence women seek to find in a man

[Kelley1]

Of course not. Women choose winners over losers. Winners have confidence. losers lack confidence. 5 star basketball players have confidence, because since kindergarten, they were always. If you were play chess with a grand-master, you would have zero confidence because you know you would lose.

Movie stars have confidence with the opposite sex, because everyone wants to marry them. Simps and whales have no confidence with 5s and above because no average person will marry them.

[VictorMachiavelli]

I don’t like the guy, he’s a con-man and an abuser. However, he made all of his money from convincing hot women like this one to go on webcam and give him almost all of the money.

Women watching him online don’t like his misogynist views, but he obviously knows how to attract women, whether or not he’s an asshole.

[Adaeva]

Of course not. Why should a successful man be a turn-off? Why, the very idea is a disgrace! Success and confidence are two sides of the same coin. An elite basketball player is confident because he always wins. A clumsy guy has no confidence playing basketball because he always loses.

[HippoDino]

Girls definitely like confidence, who doesn't? Andrew tate and donald trump have said msyoginistic things and I'm pretty sure thats the main reason those 2 examples are hated by women. Also it takes confidence to be vulnerable your wrong about that. Being able to open yourself up to a girl who could possibly hurt you is by far more bold than being too scared and locking those feelings away is it not?

[catarecute]

andrew tate isn't confident. he is many things i would never date him. he porbably wouldn't date me.

i dont dislike confident men i don't like men who are unkind, selfish, entitled, manipulator, think they are to good for their own ass, think they are better looking than they actually are, dont have empathy, not romantic, not kind, over interested in sex, perverts, love money more than their wife.

[Anonymous]

never heard of andrew tate.
And confidence is natural.
normal.
im more interested in why every movie and tv show i watch the main character has a negro best friend and another negro as a sex partner.
that is bizzare to me.
i can believe there might be a few weirdoes around who want se with negroes. Rare weirdoes. But the best friend? how? i dont know anyone who lives in the same some suburb as one let alone has one as a best friend.
i suspect its an attempt to brainwash us

[HQBULLSHYT]

I say bullshit, man can be confident all he wants, but if a girl is just not interested or find him remotely attractive, he has no shot, I have seen guys with no confidence at all get hot girls, and I have seen guys who don't care what you think about them have no problem approaching a girl, and get rejected because the girl doesn't find him attractive

[Christoff92]

Who in the world said that 🤔 Depending what the dude does to achieve confidence coming from both his Dopamine and Seratonin state level.

No. Women shouldn't be turned off from that. Also depends if those women like him and find him hot and cool, also sexy 😉😍