Why I gave up on women!

[Anonymous]

It is ridiculous, what happens today. In the age of extreme narcissism where selfies is a daily activity, and where you are brought up to think you are the center of the universe - and only if you act like it you are being taken seriously- there are people trying to live with a moral code and philosophy. The world lives in sin, when you do not succumb to their way of living you are a pariah, an outcast. My whole life women treated me like shit. I heard things like is he gay or something just because i was in my midtwenties and still virgin. yes, the overused sluts could tell i'm virgin, but the so called super female sixth sense is actually total bs. Women in general are misjudging, illogical and sentimental beings, in the sense they're impulsive and temperamental rather than reasonable. They always jumped into wrong and rushed conclusions about me. But i don't find it strange, an unstable entity with self destruction tendencies would not ever be in the position of judging with clarity and fairness.

I don't care about your material needs or unrealistic and contradicting desires and expectations. I will never become the wonderful asshole you want. Women only take you seriously when you are desired by other women. The whole "love" thing is a narcissistic game of ego boost and use of others. I want to have no role in it. Yes I know they don't owe me anything and I'm thankful about that cause I want to have no relation with these creatures and I have nothing to get from these living vessels of vanity and contradiction.

What? A dirty hairy hole? Thanks, I don't want any of that either. Many wasted their lives in that foolish persuit. Bitter? Problematic? Resentful? say whatever you want, you have to defend your lifestyle anyway. women wil always go for the dark triad of characteristics in men, I don't plan to change for any crazy ass self disrespecting nutjob. I will continue enjoying my solitude, my morning walks and my books. After all, they all understand eventually their value is lost when their physical appearence starts to fade, and realise they invested their whole lives in meaningless things with no timeless value, but it is too late then.

[BuchitaBuchys]

Why I STILL haven't given up on men:

My family is Machista. They value men more than women.
My grandparents didn't let my mom go to school. She cried and begged, but they told her it was pointless cuz she "would only get as smart as a girl can get". She is self taught read, write, and some math.
My father was very abusive, had many vices. He smoked, did drugs, drank, and cheated constantly. He'd waste his money on bars and women leaving us hungry. I even had to eat dog food to survive. We'd go days without eating. We'd get evicted a lot cuz my dad would fight the landlord or refuse to pay rent. We saw winters without heat, summers without electricity.
My dad would beat the shit out of us.
Once, he literally dragged me by my hair, threw me in the tub, and turned on the cold water. Why? Because I didn't wanna eat chile. I was 2yrs old when this happened. My mother screamed and cried for him to stop.
My dad would have my uncles and his drinking buddies over.
Some of them came into our rooms and touched us. It's horrifying to wake up with your underwear off and drunk men towering over you.
My dad would beat my mom. He nearly stabbed my mama to death in front of me when I was 3-4yrs old. I have never experienced that much fear to this day. I remember her screams. Thankfully someone called the cops and saved my mom's life, and maybe ours too.

Cuz of this, my siblings and I went from foster to foster home. My mom did everything to get us back. My dad didn't care and said he was happy without us.
When we finally got back to them, my dad was still cheating and mistreating. He got arrested and deported and my mom raised us single.
We did help her though. I have been working odd jobs since 12, and got full time job at 16 while in school.
That was when my older brother decided to mooch. He would smoke and drink. I would come home to find he had eaten all the food. I'd be tired and we always argued. He sold drugs and tried to force my 12yr old sell. He'd refused and get hit.

[BuchitaBuchys]

He once pointed a gun at him. I'd be at work worried sick that my older brother would seriously hurt my kid brothers. I would kick him out the house and he'd force himself back.
I'd have choke marks, black eyes, bruises. He'd try to fight my younger brothers, I would jump in and take the beatings instead.
I've been stalked. At my job, at 17 stalked by a 30+yr old man. He sexually harassed me and other coworkers as well.
Flash forward to now. I'm a faithful woman. Both my exes cheated on me, both lied and denied even with proof. Now they both want me back.

TLDR I understand your frustration. If women must mistreat you, you feel you wanna give up. I'd be lying if I said I didn't hate men. I hated people but men more. They made me a sex object as a child, a punching bag, mistreated me. I hated myself also, I was suicidal.
You'll get over this and realize that not all men/women are that way.
The bitterness and pain, like happiness, will not last forever. I speak from experience.

[Tokana]

Wow. Sorry to hear that and thanks for having the courage to share that with us. Epic post. Speechless

[been_waiting]

I hope you get to where you want to go in life. You deserve it. you've been through more hell than most.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Tokana haha thanks. Don't worry. I'm ok now :)
I feel that maybe I should write a myTake about this?
This post was practically a myTake lol

[Watermelonoma]

respect

[Tokana]

@been_waiting

She's definitely gone through enough in her life to earn the right to be successful. Copy and paste this as a take on never giving up. Pansies need to hear this.

[myTake Owner]

You have my respects dear lady. You've been through a real hell but finally triumphed gloriously.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@been_waiting Thank you :)
I'm doing my best.

I understand where his frustrations come from. Which is why instead of getting angry and making my usual sarcastic replies, I decided to share about how men made my life miserable even as a child.
Writing all this, I feel it should have been a myTake instead.
Before, I was shy to tell people my life story. So not many people would hear it until now.
As I said to him, the bitterness doesn't last forever. I don't hate men anymore. I did before. But now I realize that not everyone is like that. Even if the vast majority of men I met were shitheads, it still wasn't all men who treated me this way.

You gotta keep on trucking lol you know? Just keep on, no matter how hard it gets. I get my perseverance from my mama.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@watermelonoma thank you :)

@Tokana, I think I will do this as a myTake. It's very personal, but even at the hardest times, it's ok to feel shitty (for lack of better words lol). Yes, I did cry myself to sleep, yes I did blame myself. I hated myself. I wished I was never born. But it helped me learn life lessons, that now, I don't hate myself for.

@TakeOwner. I just hope you realize that it's ok to feel bitter temporarily. I did. It's normal. I have been through counseling and therapy.
I'm not triumphed yet lol I'm still working hard on achieving my goals in life. I've got a long way to go. But seeing what I went through as a child, I know now that if I can survive that, I can make it.
Just don't give up. As corny and cheesy as that sounds, don't give up cuz you never know how far you can really go. With women and in life.
The bitterness and pain doesn't last forever. It feels like it will, but it doesn't.

[been_waiting]

You're inspirational :) you could write an autobiography haha. I hope Takeowner takes your advice to heart

[been_waiting]

@Tokana I agree. She ought to make it a Take :)

[blondfrog]

Wow :( I am so sorry you had to go through with that.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@been_waiting lol You aren't the first person to say that. I'm actually working on writing a book. Not an autobiography, though. But people have told me an autobiography would be interesting.
All I know, is once I achieve my dreams, this shit will have been worth it.
Yea, I do hope @TakeOwner does listen to it. I told this so he can realize that it's ok to feel bitter and to have hate sometimes. It's perfectly normal to be bitter and resentful. I know I went through that. But it's also important to realize it doesn't last forever. A few years ago, if you asked me what I thought about men, people, but mainly men, I'd probably have written something like this as well. Not my proudest moment, but I had similar thoughts to this myTake but with men.

@blondfrog Thank you. It's all in the past now and I've learned from it. :)

[Debbiexoxo]

You are an amazing woman, you inspire me.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Debbiexoxo

[Toad-1]

This was eye opening to read, it makes me understand you a whole lot more and respect that somehow living through all of that you are still here. You're still breathing and surviving in a world that seemed to hate you.

I'm sorry you lived through al of that and sincerely hope the rest of your life is a whole lot better, I think you deserve it.

Very touching, I nearly shed a tear at the part about your father and his friends doing what they did. :(

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Toad-1 thank you. I wrote a myTake on this in case you're interested. It's really long though fyi lol it's basically this reply but with a bit more details.

[blackeagle007]

What's machista?

[BuchitaBuchys]

@blackeagle007 extremely macho. They value men more than women. Basically, patriarchy but in more exaggerated ways.

[GirlScoutsRevenge]

I'm not surprised the Take Author hasn't replied to you, hopefully he's sat there realising how pathetic now sounds compared to someone who has been through some tough times.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@GirlScoutsRevenge
He replied once saying saying he has respect for me. But hasn't said anything else.
But seeing how he replies to other comments, I don't think he took my advice to heart (unfortunately).
I cannot force someone to see how being bitter and holding grudges (especially on a whole group of people) is unhealthy and counterproductive. He'd have to change his own thoughts and let go of the prejudices against females on his own.
All I'm saying, I was once there. I had seen the men around me treat women like shit, had them abuse me in nearly every which possible way, I ended up hating men for the longest time. But now I'm past that and don't hate men nor myself anymore. And it feels a lot better and more liberating than holding grudges and being bitter.

[GirlScoutsRevenge]

The thing is it's people hurting people. There will always be bad people and we should look out for them but they won't always be in the same guise.

Mis-directed hate.

[Naughty-_rascal]

@BuchitaBuchys Hell you are strong person. I admire people like you so much. much respect to you. If you can come out the other side a better person, and you have being through hell, than anything is possible. And just shows, No one any excuse to give up, no matter what your position in life is. There is always hope.

[Naughty-_rascal]

The most powerful thing in this world we can give people, and that is hope.

[irrationally97]

I hope your life looks up from this point. I can't even imagine what it was like to experience those horrors in person.

[Estelita]

Let's talk about the real problem here.

You need to stop looking to others in order to find happiness. True happiness lies within.

Of course there are bad people but they are in both genders: male and female.

People have treated you poorly, guess what? We've all been treated poorly. Yes some more than others. But you know what? We build a bridge and get over it.

So what you're a virgin and you haven't had many relationship and people make assumptions about you. Guess what? You're not the first, and you're damn sure not the last.

How about you stop looking for acceptance from women. And stop gravitating to those wretched kind of women.

Now for the record I didn't read your entire take because it seemed too depressingly bitter for me to stomach.

Another thing, stop making generalizations about women. You haven't met them all.

The only reason you're so angry is because you need to learn to love yourself first or no one else will. It's time to self reflect.

It's obvious that deep down in side you haven't actually given up on women you desire to find the one who will love you and prove you wrong. But the sad part about that is when she comes along you won't even know it because of your clouded and bitter judgement.

So I think it's time for you to stop bathing in your sorrows and get a grip. Pick yourself up, brush yourself off, learn to love yourself and move the heck on in life.

[magicman2k14]

Excellent piece of advice and should be taken seriously.

[Estelita]

Thank you very much @magicman2k14

[myTake Owner]

i'm better at introspection than most of you wise gurus in this comment section. it is the world that wants me to change to incorporat me in it's masses, not the opposite. an of course that's a sacrifice and self-betrayal i would never commit.

[Estelita]

You can only do what you allow to be done to you.

So what if society calls you and tells you it's time for you to change. Hang up the phone.
You're too old to be have this kind of life crisis.

Why are you so bothered by others opinions? By featuring your take isn't this what you expected?

You can choose to be otherworldly rather than worldly.

[Estelita]

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@takeowner

[unlovedguy]

I realized it just this year. I am enjoying being single now. I am living towards my goals and I have accepted myself and am on my way to love myself. I am becoming the person that I'd want to date. My mental health is much more than last years. I started to gym a little more than a month ago and I started to learn archery, which was one of my dream. I am also considering about having some more hobbies that I can enjoy outdoors. I do know that the right person is waiting for me out there and before we meet, she already will be accomplishing her goals and so will I. When we both accomplish our goals, we will ready to meet. So we will be able to enjoy to being a part of each other's life. I don't seek approval from others and I don't try to find happiness outside anymore. I saw that it all lies inside of me. If it was before, I still could say that I need someone in my life but I stopped thinking that way.

[pavlove]

Ah, where to begin. First, stop thinking in black and white, good and bad, because you're already setting yourself up for disappointment. Think of landscape of male-female dating with the acceptance you have for death. Would you say that death is bad, terrible, and needs to be eradicated? I would imagine not. Death simply is. It's highly unpleasant, but it simply is.

Get rid of that Disney fantasy where the nerd works up the courage to talk to the popular girl and over the course of the semester, she grows increasingly impressed by him, and, at some point, they "go steady." Obviously this is exaggeration, but it's core is how you may be thinking that's causing the issue. "I'm nice... why is she not opening up to me?" That is a one in a million scenario (that's why it is a movie.) In the real world, the nerd can and often does get the hottest girl, but it's usually through hard work (gold diggers) and for many through developing a sense of confidence and self-assuredness that other men don't have. And lets say you get that, you either won't know what to do with it because on some level you think she's too good for you or you'll have to replace her with something even better in order to keep the fantasy (wanting what you can't have) going, which Disney has set up for you.

Finally, realize that it doesn't matter how nice, how smart, how responsible you are. Lets take the club landscape, a girl with fake tits, a fake ass, and a really tight dress is infinitely more valuable than the guy who's saved millions of lives through discovering the vaccine to such and such disease. This relates to the early point that male-female relationships just is what it is. YOU ARE VALUELESS BUT YOU CAN GIVE YOURSELF VALUE THROUGH SIMPLY CHOOSING TO HAVE IT. That is the main point. Confidence is just choosing that you get to be one that's awesome. Don't try to understand it logically--it doesn't make any sense. None of it does. Laugh at it and swim with the tide.

[aficionado]

I know people are going to flame me for saying this, but I REALLY appreciate the fact that you dared to write something like this.
I can actually FEEL these things by putting myself in your shoes. Women haven't been too kind to me either, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that I have 'given up' on them entirely. As of now, I ignore them and they ignore me. I'm just being oblivious to their existence.
Please do understand that there ARE sensible women who don't fall into the category you mentioned. But then, the time and effort needed to find such women is ridiculous, and not really worth it because you don't even know if you find one, even after searching your entire life.
But its a great take, in my opinion. Its REALLY hard being a man in the current era, and your take proves it. But you could have put across your views in a more sophisticated way, without relying so much on hate words and obscenities.

[aficionado]

Hehe, already 3 down-votes from women, as I had expected! Haters keep hating!

[Tormentarian]

Yes of course, push them to rationality they just won't give in to it, they just want muller and STDs. Safe bro

[RiceWine]

There is real sexism in the world today, and it isn't only towards women, we are now getting hurt, and attacked for speaking our feelings, women can be anarchic beings, and I'd bet all the downvotes are from power freak women who want men to be lesser, when we should be equal and judge people by the way they act

[Longblackveil]

I can't bring myself to agree with take the take. But your opinion I grudgingly agree with.

Finding a decent girl is a MONUMENTAL task. I'm a single father and honestly I don't have time for it. Being a single father my pool of prospects Is even smaller.

I haven't given up on girls no, not at all. When my kids get older I might get back out there. But I still have no desire for marriage. Even the "good girls" in the "happy marriages" I've seen how they are. The longer your around someone the more hatred that developes between the two, they end up sleeping in separate beds and always snarky towards each other. They stay together because of promise that they made, not because they want to.

I just don't see a point in it. I have a lot more fun with my kids and playing music. Those are my two hobbies. Chasing women is a lose lose game really. Sad, but that's how I see it

[Longblackveil]

I'm certainly not bitter like the take owner. I don't really have any resentment toward ladies. I just think the quality is seriously lacking. Most people in this world today want to act like teenagers all the time. It's definitely not just women

[aficionado]

@RiceWine
Couldn't agree more!

@Longblackveil
Wow, being a single father, that too at such a young age, is probably a daunting task. You're kids are lucky to have you as a father!
Having said that... I agree with your words. I too don't 'hate' women, because 'hate' is a very strong words. I have no reason to hate an entire gender, and that would be foolish. But I'm certainly NOT willing to put in herculean efforts just to woo a woman, only to have her promptly dump me when she comes across a dude who is better looking and/or has more money than me.
By the way, at some point in my life I too might become a single father by adopting kids, because I just ADORE kids. i wouldn't want to be denied the joys of fatherhood, just because I'm unwilling to 'chase' women.

[Anonymous]

You're right! Every single woman ever only likes bad boys! Every single woman in the world is crazy! Every single woman ever are jerks!
BUT- every woman became that way because every single guy in the world just wanted them for sex! Every single guy in the world only ever treated them like objects! Every single guy in the world is a rapist and pervert and will use women so it's better for women to use them first! I totally understand what you're saying! Thanks for realizing that we're all exactly alike, and every girl is mean and every guy is mean!!!

-_-
You see how generalizations don't work? I'm sorry you've been hurt but guess what, I've been hurt too. I'm also a virgin in my 20s. I've never had a boyfriend. I have been bullied. But do you see me complaining about it? No. I found friends who care about me. I've taken a break from guys and learned to love myself. I've used my pain to be nicer to others.

***for those of you who can't tell, the first paragraph was sarcasm. I was trying to show that generalizations are bad.

[Anonymous]

Why I give up on CERTAIN men:
1. The nice guys aren't actually attracted to the nice gals. You'll whine and complain that women only wanting a-holes, but will be bigger A-holes by pretending that good women don't exist and ignoring us.
2. All men have a specific preference. You love with your eyes first, so why get angry when a female does it?
3. Men always think that we're out to get them.
4. The nice guys aren't actually nice guys.
5. Some men have a twisted mindset about women. They clump all of us into this one category, but when a DECENT woman comes their way, they're so jaded that they don't realize that they've missed out on a perfect opportunity.
Okay, that's just to name a few. Guys like yourself disgust me. You seriously need help. You let bad experiences and the past dictate your present and your future. Hating women is not the remedy for your issues. Accepting yourself and realizing that maybe you should take a closer look at yourself will. Time for some self-discovery. Life is too damn short to be this bitter and stupid about the opposite sex.

[myTake Owner]

no comment. you fill the description of my text perfectly. this comment is worth a thousand pictures. (not in the sense of being capable of any insightful and truthful contribution of course, but as a living proof and support of my initial points)

[Opinion Owner]

Good to know. You fit the descriptions of my text perfectly.

[myTake Owner]

could you please not say at 12 o'clock what i've said at twelve to five? thank you. now back in your cave.

[PalmWave]

*Looks at all the posts* so why the hell did you post on here instead of making a real article?

Seriously dude if you won't take at least some advice and not neglect every word that goes against your take, why bother pricking us with this junk on girls&guys.

Keep this to yourself because nobody is going to really care. At the least, they will insult you as you've seen in these comments. What you did sir is paint yourself a big fat red target for everyone else to aim at.

You're smart, at least from how I see you voice your thoughts. How about you actually focus that energy on something so much more important than women. There are so many bigger things in the world than dealing with girl problems. Instead of secluding women and labeling them as a whole different species, why not live with them like brothers and sisters.

One more thing, try not to generalize/stereotype so much. My best friend is a girl and is far from what you described. Keep in mind you DID say "always" describing all women act one way. Just listen to yourself dude.

[nikiroxs]

lol i like that "big fat red target for everyone else to aim at", u hit it on the spot :)

[NessMess]

In the end its still his call, regardless of what you say.

[been_waiting]

"yes, the overused sluts could tell i'm virgin..."

You don't necessarily have the most respectful attitude toward women, so I don't understand how you can expect respect from an entire group of people that you are disrespectful towards?

Society has some unfair double standards- such that a female virgin is fine but a male one is a loser- but you just demonstrated another. A girl who's had multiple sex partners is a worthless slut and a man who has done the same isn't.

Our society is unfair to both men and women. Trust me. You're not the only one suffering.

[myTake Owner]

no the woman that can tell that so easily and then goes as far as to gay shame you is a full fledged slut. and a kind average societal one that is...

[myTake Owner]

you are still young, trust that i may know one or two things mor about people..

[myTake Owner]

and i nowhere, nowhere, nowhere said that a male slut is to be praised..

[been_waiting]

If your lack of a sex life is no one elses business and they have no place to judge, then you also have no place to judge someone for their sex life

[myTake Owner]

don't you see how people become heart-hardened and mean? it's not the person per se it's the evil deed that i judge. it's narcissism, it's lust, it's the use of others. there are not more perverse and misleading words than the terms that society has engineered today. "liberated with her sexuality". no she is not liberated, she is bound to repeat an act that is meant to be enjoyed in another context. and if you misuse it and depending on your motives as well you become less humane with time. no virgin (but virtuous and humble) person, would react like this judgmental overused bimbo. (and i don't pull that out of my head, it was the truth about her). it's a crisis of values in society as a whole and if you have to know men are to blame the most. as the ancients were saying when the man is immoral and unwise he will lure woman with him in degeneration as well. look around you. look what feminism (which is a male construct but thats too big of an issue to open here) did to the modern world

[been_waiting]

Well its 2015 and there is no correct context to enjoy sex, except consensually.

[myTake Owner]

your brainwash is immense but it's only rivaled by your ignorance and imaturity so i will respect your opinion no matter how false i consider it to be.

[been_waiting]

Actually, I just realize that not everyone thinks the way I do. Personally, I will only have sex in the context of a loving relationship.
However, others will have sex outside of relationships. But if they're not hurting anyone and they are being safe, that's not MY BUSINESS. what someone does with their genitals, is not MY business. Or yours.

[myTake Owner]

yes the way you put it now makes much more sense. (but i can argue that what you call love is not actual love but let's finish it here, i don't want to open such a long discussion.)

[been_waiting]

After reading Buchita's take, I've realized something.

Men end up hating women because they've been rejected too much.
Women end up hating men because they've been abused and mistreated by men.

[stfuplease]

Don't blame you really I don't. My parents found each other at the age of 42 years old. I'm 25 and they are in their 60s to 70s. It is pathetic I know, finding a real women these days is like trying to convince an atheist that God is real.

Just take a break from them that is what I am doing. I don't have what you have, but honestly it is Better for you.

Here is why, your value is your personality and morals you will find that special someone I promise.

As for me, I'm 6ft plus, genetically blessed even buliding muscle. It is harder for me to ever find a real women. They don't even deserve to be called woman but GIRLS. They really are girls not women, being called a woman is a privellage in my eyes.

I get hit on by all ages of "women" from 12 year olds to 60 year olds. I get hit on by married "woman" even.

I get lied to by own family members that their daughter or sister is worth to know and later find out they aren't what they seemed to be at all.

All fake, "woman" are fake the only way to ever find a REAL WOMAN is to wait like my parents did at that age, or go find a TRUE cultural women.

Italians are like the loyalist but make sure they are from Italy as in BORN there. The ones born in America is just not the real thing. They are fake as shit and don't deserve a man period.

FYI: American Italians never settle right with a guy, because they are too fake.

Why mention Italians? Because that was the only relationship I ever had that lasted until she was forced to move back to Italy broke my heart... she never cared about the materials but my life value.

So that is why Italian women are the real deal but they better be from the motherland. Heck any women from their motherland is no doubt better than these American trash washrags. I love my country but women from America is just planned to fail IMMENSELY.

Take a break for now and you will find that special woman not girl. That is what I am doing. Blessings.

[DocT1977]

Let me be clear here. What you seem to be attracted to are the women who don't think much of themselves because these are the ones who always end up with assholes because they are all into the "Macho man" bullshit persona. There are a lot of them out there. But not all of them. Supposing I tell you that there are women who are into people who are down to earth and realistic that have morals? Yes. Such women exist as I am married to one. What i think your problem is results from chasing down bar flies. These are the same girls who throw themselves at about anything that walks through the door. I think it's time to pack up your fishing apparatus, close up shop, and look for a new lake to fish in.

[myTake Owner]

you sir combine the straightforwardness of a myrmidon warrior with the maturity of a stoic philosopher. congrats. but i have already made my plannings and calculations on how i will navigate through life. a family would be too much of a time loss for my works in progress and program.

[DocT1977]

Many thanks. Though I am happy with just my wife and I, For different reasons, We actually agreed on no kids. This world has gone straight to hell, and not worthy of giving the next generation. I get more and more disgusted with it every day. My outlook is this. To hell with the things we cannot control. But instead, Make the most of what we can.

[evo220]

Powerful words man. I don't think I've ever heard someone refer to a woman or her genitals as a "dirty hairy hole." But why do you think nearly every man in history has pursued the aforementioned "hole." That's because it's the most natural of all reflexes, to reproduce, to give existence to the next generation.

Also, at least in my case, my girl's value will certainly NOT be lost when as her body ages. She is more valuable to me every day we're together.

I understand your frustrations with women, trust me. But your anger tells me that you have not given up and that you do care. So you have some work to do, if you are mature enough to get past your ego and accept this. Figure out who you are. Figure out what you want. Spend some time with women and try to appreciate them for the wonderful creatures they can be.

[MindYourEyes]

Very interesting response

[myTake Owner]

if this was the pursuit of all men then we would still be in caves. thankfully there are also "us" the "freaks of nature". and i said their value diminishes firstly for them. i never said it was for me.

[Pink1996]

People never think they're the problem. They like to blame others for their own lack of confidence and lack of charm. You're blaming women for not giving you the time of day well what woman would when you see women as "misjudging, illogical and sentimental beings" and you call women "creatures" and claim they are worth nothing when their beauty fades with age. Why don't you look within yourself and realize that you are the cause of your own misery. You and your twisted, vile mind. No one will go to you.

[Pink1996]

the people that are hoping for this person to find love, he won't. You should wish for him to fix his rotten mind first.

[Shydude91]

Exactly, women aren't the problem, why should a woman settle for him? We all want the best and cast out the defective, it's human nature.

[Lightning8]

you don't have to think that way in order for them to treat you bad, is what he's saying

[Watermelonoma]

It's true that women tend to value guys who are desired by other women, but i think you're over-simplifying a few things also. I'm not super convinced that you are finished with women. I think you do actually want a woman in your life, but its too hard for you to work for. You're trying to convince yourself that women are this terrible, because if you succeed, your brain rewire itself to not desire them.

But really, when you make a take like this which really doesn't benefit anyone here, it does make me question how devout you are in your beliefs. Personally, I believe we live in a world of nuance, and despite some of the negative aspects of women, there are still some positives that work in their favour. It's not something that i would so quickly brush aside out of fear of put ting myself out there.

[myTake Owner]

you are one of the least stupid people that commented on this thread. i have two point out two mistakes in your logical deductions though. 1) you are wrong about me not being done with this subject. i don't plan to deceive or use anyone pretending i'm something that i'm not. for no reason. 2) i have no fear of putting mysef out. the "out" has a fear of me, and prefers to mute me, isolate me, execute me, whatever works as far as it will be able to get rid of a voice of reason that fears not to point out to the masses their wrong doings and beliefs. and lives in a way that goes against that of the masses, a way that indirectly judges them and makes their unfairness shine as the sun reveals the dust in the air of a room.

[miserybusiness]

This post is completely ridiculous. I don't even remember the last time I took a selfie LOL.

Anon, you need to get off the internet. You just sound really bitter and judgmental yourself. The hypocrisy is actually pretty amusing. For someone with little to no experience with women, you're acting like you know everything about them.

It sucks that you were mistreated but c'mon, there are obviously good women out there. No need to lump an entire gender into one largely misinformed generalization (again, lol at the irony). Surround yourself with positivity. Clearly, you need it.

[myTake Owner]

Your attempt to read me through and analyze me through my text with your immanent female irrationality and prejudice without knowing anything about me, (and without comprehending the slightest about what i wrote) shows how much you fit the above mentioned criteria. Little to no experience? I have actually 10 more years of experience with women than you have. and believe me it was a thoroughly educating journey that helped me crystalilze a solid and realistic lifesaving opinion about how i want to navigate through life. and please don't bring up your ungrounded and inconsistent hippie concepts like positivity (at least the way you imply it) on the table, when you feel offended by something you can't understand and you react to it with the common cavewoman attitude: i don't understand it, i somewhat see my self pictured in some of these points, i'm offended, i must put my defensive aggression at work. let's bring on topics like bitterness, hipocrisy, maybe "judgmental" will do the work..

[miserybusiness]

"Your attempt to read me through and analyze me through your text with your immanent male irrationality and prejudice without knowing anything about me, (and without comprehending the slightest about what i wrote) shows how much you fit the above mentioned criteria."

You do realize this applies to you, right? This is exactly what you're doing in this take. You're contradicting yourself over and over again. I understand you loud and clear, man. I feel bad for you but you have to admit that your take is entirely based on generalizing a whole gender when there are clearly individual differences. And yes, you are bitter. You said it yourself. This article is clearly inspired by your own prejudices. Did you really expect every woman on here to pat your back and solely sympathize with you when you're calling us irrational and overly emotional? Such an archaic way of thinking, by the way. But again, the irony. You're being overtly emotional yourself.

[miserybusiness]

"when you feel offended by something you can't understand and you react to it with the common caveman attitude: i don't understand it, i somewhat see my self pictured in some of these points, i'm offended, i must put my defensive aggression at work."

C'MON YOU'VE GOT TO SEE THE IRONY IN THIS TOO LOOOOL.

Actually, this is pretty entertaining. Keep it up.

[myTake Owner]

you don't even know what irony means right? you are in dire need of mental development and maturity if you think you can use towards a logician his exact words in reverse as an argument and expect to not get ridiculed and deconstructed until you are left spiritually naked and helpless in the void you built for yourself. i advise you to not say at 12 what i said at 11:55.

[miserybusiness]

Hahaha okay, mister logician, you keep on logically analyzing my intentional immaturity. Digging your spiritual metaphor. It's great that you enjoy solitude already, my rampant hippie senses are telling me that you're going to be alone for a very, verrrry long time. Have fun.

[myTake Owner]

your last sentence was actually able to make me laugh. i never thought your indifferent and retarded posts could ever inflict any kind of emotion or impression to me. congrats! rampant hippie sense she said.. haha.

[Monicaa7690]

What kind of women have you honestly been dealing with? If you've been involved with those girls who are whores, and/or think that they are too good for certain people... then this will most likely be your outcome. Fortunately, not EVERY woman is like that. I suggest instead of giving up on women, you just try to find one who isn't into the whole "I like bad boys" charade. Whoever likes bad boys gets themselves into heartbreak and have the nerve to womder WHY they are heartbroken. Also try to find one who is sweet, not judgmental, not a whore or a conceited self absorbed bimbo like the rest of the skanks yoh've been dealing with. Trust me, not EVERY GIRL is like the ones you've just described. So drop those idiot women you've been dealing with, and go find yourself someone that will change your entire perspective on girls. And maybe someone who's even wifey material.. if you're lucky. Good luck to you

[myTake Owner]

the kind that from the very delicant era of elementary school would kick me in the balls cause i prefered to stay at home and read and write poetry rather than go out on saturdays "like all the normal kids do". and of course when i would try to defend my self the bullies of the class would appear strong and willing to kick some ass and say "don't you dare to touch a girl, i'll crush your skull", when they would normally actually not give a fuck about them, but this was a nice excuse to give me a good beating since noone liked "the kid that all teachers loved".

[Monicaa7690]

Okay. And how old are you now? Shouldn't you move on from things that happened in elementary school?

[myTake Owner]

most of the interactions were and are like that up to date. the only thing that changed was that the hits became internal and much more subtle and cunning. and while i'm not the whimpy kid anymore i usually tend to get betrayed and dissapointed in other ways by people today when i give them my trust ad open my heart to them. i can operate with mere cold logic if i want to, but that's only a part of "me". not the whole me.

[zehel]

Did they really kick you in the balls when you were little was it boys who did this didn't the teachers do nothing to intervene? or are you over exaggerating this part.

[myTake Owner]

i'm not over-exaggerating any part. a person with my cultivation and intellect finds no pleasure or meaning in lying.

[zehel]

There is nothing wrong with what this guy said although people are also right that not all women are like this about 95% majority of women are exactly as its been told by this guy in my experience. I WILL REMIND YOU OF WHAT WOMEN ARE IN MY OPINION
1. WOMEN ARE NOT EVIL THEY ARE CHAOS ITSELF
2. THEREFORE DO NOT COMPARE WOMEN TO EVIL
3. IF THEY DONT GET THEIR WAY THEY ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO SABOTAGE ANYTHING BE IT THE SOURCE OF ALL LIFE AND HAPPINESS EVEN.
do not get too close to a woman or you will permanantly lose the ability to love anything at all this does not mean you are becoming less manly or anything but i strongly suggest other men reexamine your behaviour which is slowly emulating the behavior of cruelty of women. If this continues too far you will lose sight of yourself forever and permanantly at that

[Unit1]

Well... so much for the battle of the sexes.

[zehel]

The battle of sexes is much better off dead.

[nikiroxs]

so my question is takeowner, why is it u have so many desires in a women, but if iwomen has equal or lesser wants for a man, that is is not acceptable? u say classy, non insecure, confident, and many girls say confident, and not cocky, im sorry if that sometimes comes across as an jerk but u need to be realistic. also, u dont like how " the overused sluts could tell that ur a virgin" how dare u refer to a girl as a slut, if ur not okay with them infering ur a virgin and using it against u, aren't u doing the same thing to them by calling them a slut... look i wanna if try to look at it from ur point of u, but there are so many things that are wrong with this take, and thats just my opinion.

[M_A_X]

He is and he isn't. Not to take sides here, but I'm pretty sure our society has certain ideas about men and women who are virgins. If you're a male virgin, you're a loser, if you're a female virgin, you're a prude. Being a virgin is kind of a no-win situation for both genders

[nikiroxs]

@M_A_X but the standard is the same when u have too many female/male companions.. as in u can be a slut if ur a girl or a stud/player as a guy.. so its okay to say a women is either a slut or a prude, or a guy is either a "loser" or a "stud/player" my point is he is assuming that women who have slept often should be continued to be refered to as sluts and judges them based on that, whereas he doesn't want these women to judge him? ( further in the comments, he states exactly what he wants in a women)

[M_A_X]

Okay, so what you're saying is, you've slept with a lot of guys and now you're trying to change and you don't still want to be called a slut?

If that's what you're asking, then I don't know. Part of me feels like people should be able to escape from their mistakes, but another part of me realizes that people don't really learn anything unless they receive some kind of punishment.

Both of you are psychologically projecting very hard, and this is why men and women don't get along together these days. Both of you have fucked up issues, and you're pushing them off on to every person you meet, and expecting them to live up to some kind of crazy standards based on your fucked up issues.

If you're not happy with the people you have around you that you can date, improve yourself to open up more options, or deal with what's out there, or move or something... but it's not healthy for anybody for people to sit here and talk about things like this.

[nikiroxs]

@M_A_X well not me personally, but its how @been_waiting put it, there are harsh double standards for both genders. i just dont accept either sex to be sleeping around too much, regardless one should neither be praised (a player) or ashamed (slut) for doing so, to each their own.. my point is to break these gender differences we as society need to stop creating a greater distinction between them

[M_A_X]

And why are YOU making it YOUR prerogative to fight this battle? What makes you think this needs to change?

You're really only further proving my previous point here. Quit trying to fight some kind of battle to change society, when you're 15 and you don't even know what society is yet

[been_waiting]

@M_A_X one of the biggest mistakes I think adults make is telling young people that their opinions don't count. It breeds a generation of apathy and ignorance.

[M_A_X]

@been_waiting her opinion doesn't count not only because she's 15. It's because she's 15 AND she doesn't know what she's talking about. She's proving herself to be that stereotype based on what she's said. I don't just say that to every underage kid I meet, because some of them ARE right.

I know what you're saying though... but what I'm saying is that you should recognize that I know what I'm saying too lol

[been_waiting]

@M_A_X I didn't read the entire conversation. But she did say that unfair double standards exist. This is... pretty much fact. If a 28 year old said that, you'd respect their opinion even if you disagreed.

[M_A_X]

Yeah, you should have read the whole conversation, because her saying that was her agreeing with what I'd said first. I'm the one who said there were double standards, and she was agreeing and elaborating on that point. That part was fine. That part I'm disagreeing about is that she feels the need to go out and try to change the world.

The issue is she's only focusing on changing one minor thing in the world, because it relates to her, because she's a girl. She's not focusing on fixing race issues, she's not focusing on feeding the poor. She thinks that by somehow solving this one problem, the world will be a better place FOR HER

And the world honestly doesn't need any MORE people pushing one-sided agendas for their own personal gain. All she knows is that it bothers her, so she wants to change it, but there's so much more going on than this, and so much more she could be focusing on. This is only going to end up being an unhealthy endeavor for her and others as well

[nikiroxs]

@M_A_X im not going out of my way to only agree with things that are about me.. im not a slut and i haven't done anything bad, nor am i defending women, this issue is also bad for guys b/c they can be looked at as an assole for sleeping around too much... but i dont even wanna say that, its my opinion that most girls dont like to be refered to as a slut for being independent. this takeowner is trying to state why he "gave up on women" but is only contradicting himself by judging girls who are sluts who are assuming he's a virgin in a bad way.. why should i give any respect for him for saying so? also really the age card, is that how low u have to go, to make ur point?

[M_A_X]

Again, don't act like I didn't just point this out - Your age doesn't matter, it's the fact that you PROVE that you act your age. If you were 15 and as knowledgeable about this as a 20 year old, it would be different. That's not "pulling out the age card"

I already said, he's also a hypocrite, and I don't agree with him and I'm not telling you to give him respect, because he's wrong too.

Don't say "ur". You make the point for me.

[Anonymous]

Oh poor baby, you want a cookie?

Seriosuly suck it up, we all have our problems and heartbreaking stories. The difference is, we don't whine about them on the internet, expecting people to feel sorry for us. Have you ever considered that you yourself might be the problem? Most women don't like insecure men, who thinks they are entitled to something, just because they proclaim themselves as "nice guys". You always jump to the conclusion, that if she is not with you, then that guy she is actually with must be an asshole. But guess what, most girls would not date an asshole. It's just an excuse for you "nice guys" to blame us for your unhappiness.

[myTake Owner]

i laughed. it is so stupid it's funny, this comment. you understand there is no point or substance in this comment for me to answer to, do you? grow up and come again in twenty years to talk. my mommy said to not take anything from strangers, thanks i won't take the cookie.

[Tormentarian]

haha stay 18, in fact go back to 12

[unlucky555]

I think she's right

And not all women like what u said

[myTake Owner]

wow, you use virginity as an indication of superiority against me? you were not even worth my first response. don't worry i have a sister and she is very proud of me and my achievements. and my kindness towards people in our local community. she is also aware about my ideas and indifference towards people of your kind. especially YOUR kind.

[Opinion Owner]

Not worth you response? Please, why should I give a shit if you respond or not?
All I am saying is, that you insult everyone here who doesn't agree with you, much like a child would do. I really do understand why women doesn't want you, I can't even feel sorry for your lack of being loved, since I really do get those women. I mean, you are annoying me already. I don't care about your sister buddy, neither do I care about your "achievements" or "kindness towards other people" Humans really do show their true self, when they are not given what they want. Some people fight harder to reach their goals, others find new goals; and then there is people like you, those who just whine, bitch and demand pity.
I see how I am the big bad wolf here, but don't you find it kind of sad, that a 16 year old girl is more mature and strong mentally, than you yourself are as a grown ass man? I find it sad, pathetic actually.
Life sucks dude, you should have to get up and deal with it ;)

[myTake Owner]

you are a discgrace for humanity. you don't just understand these "women", you are one of them. this article is not targeted to people like you, you are less sensible than a stray dog that is unfed for ten days, i do not expect you to understand anything, and for goodness shake don't think for a moment i ever asked your pity or sympathy. if i were to ever ask for something like this in my life, it would probably be to someone superior to me, and not the first bimbo i meet on the internet.

[itsallover]

I've come to notice that self proclaimed 'nice guys' are actually not that nice. Most are extremely bitter and insecure. They spend most of their time pointing out flaws in women and making outrageous generalisations, instead of introspection to why women may not like them.

[ajr92]

Funnily enough, this entire article is rife with bitterness.

[myTake Owner]

You speak about outrageous generalizations on an article you can't understand (or which is against your interest to understand) and followingly, you make several of those in your very own comment. you can keep your pseudofreudian analysis for your usual type men. those that tolerate the judgmental and fruitless critical inclinations of yours. you know nothing of course about introspection, and just hearing this world from a woman (especially your type) is laughable if not tragicomical. if most women were aware of this process and really dwelled in the depths of it's practice on a daily basis, there wouldn't be a need for the existence of an article like this. this very conversation would be obsolete, but since i have to point out these things we still have way to go. you are only 19, judging by the average person's development curve you need at least a decade to conquer a fragment of self-knowledge, as well as awareness of the consequences your words and actions towards others had.

[itsallover]

I'm just going the let you wallow in your bitterness, sir, because clearly you're prepared to stick to your ways of women-bashing. I would hate to see a good woman (yes, we are out there) to be stuck with a grudging, indignant man like you. You know absolutely nothing about me to suggest that I possess any of the characteristics you proclaim women to have, or the men I go for. I study psychology, I know a lot about introspection. And by reading this article, which I understand word for word, that it's something YOU need to do.

[myTake Owner]

oh i see.. poor thing. psychology student. that's why you rushed to storm me with your incoherent and stupid conclusions. i wish you fast recovery...

[itsallover]

Okay, you're definitely nuts. I bid you goodbye.

[myTake Owner]

that's what you concluded? for whatever it's worth an objective scientist would deduct i'm the most sane out of most people in this comment section, especially you. keep your ad hominems coming. your bitterness reveals a lot about the points on which the article touched you..

[itsallover]

Get some help, please. All you do is attack, attack and attack. Find a hobby.

[itsallover]

The effort you put into pseudo-eloquently attempting to attack people who are commenting reveals more about your insecurity and insanity than anyone else, to be frank.

[myTake Owner]

you are a special case. you desere an article of your own. worry not. the only pseudo here, are pseudo-intellectuals like you that tried to hide the insecure girl they really are with a cloak of academic mediocrity which gets vastly inflated. i eat girls like you in real life for breakfast. even in your field i can make you go to your mommy crying like a cat that puts it's tail between it's legs. but you are not worth it. i'm happy you still subsequently and erroneously attempt to analyze me. it shows the article reflected certain parts of your psyche and past pretty well. you are pretty much the person that in the middle ages, in the name of "science" would lock me away (if not execute me) for my "insanity" to admit the earth is not flat. you are the kind of person that would give the poison to socrates to mute him once and for all. are you really hoping i will even flinch an eyebrow with your puny passive agresive attempts to cover your own inadequacy and fear of true dialogue?

[itsallover]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I actually can't believe this.

[geeky_artist]

I can understand your frustration. It sucks when you constantly feel like you are being judged. But not all women are self-centered, social-media obsessed bimbos. I have never been able to figure out why one would want to post so many selfies but I feel like if they feel that they look good infront of the camera (and some people really do) then hey good for them. But as far as wanting a bad boy, I get it. I have been there and its only gotten me hurt. I don't expect a guy to change for me. That's stupid and it will never last because... well it's not what the person (guy or girl) really wants to do deep down. And sure most guys pay on dates but sometimes the girl pays, it's all a matter of what the couple's ideas of relationship dynamics are. Nothing wrong with that. But don't let those women who treated you wrong make you hate all women. Not all women are bad just like not all guys are nice guys.

[myTake Owner]

you are a kind person in a concious and non-pretentious way. but also a bit ignorant about certain social dynamics and behaviors. i guess it is due to the "geeky artist" part.

[GirlScoutsRevenge]

Wah wah wah!

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[BertMacklinFBI]

lol! hahaa!

[myTake Owner]

i never cried for a woman. you on the other hand? how many times men madde you cry?

[GirlScoutsRevenge]

Far less than you think asker, far less!

Nice that you assume I'm a delicate little flower just because I have a vagina.

[myTake Owner]

i never thought you are delicant in any possible sense and nuance of the word.

[GirlScoutsRevenge]

Glad to hear it :P

[Anonymous]

"After all, they all understand eventually their value is lost when their physical appearence starts to fade, and realise they invested their whole lives in meaningless things with no timeless value, but it is too late then."

Wow, you sure don't have a low opinion of almost half of humanity *end sarcasm*

I'm happy to inform you that value is not determined by physical appearance.

Hope you're trolling because otherwise I just feel bad for you.

[Opinion Owner]

By the way, arrogance does not become you.

[myTake Owner]

of course you feel. you feel more than you think. and you certainly feel a lot of things. many times contradicting. many times befuddled. many times destructive. for yourself included. what you feel has nothing to contribute to anyone and leaves me totally indifferent...

[Opinion Owner]

(a) doesn't everyone feel much of what you said (well, almost everyone), (b) I don't know if I feel more than I think, but I do a lot of both, and I find it arrogant in the extreme that you presume to know what I feel and think... and (c) is that seriously your only response to everything I wrote above?

You wound me *again, sarcasm*. You also offend my intelligence at having to read this attempt at pseudo-intellectualism.

[myTake Owner]

of course you wouldn't understand my comment sweetypie. i said you offered just your feelings and emotions, no substance, nothing to argue about. and that you are not capable of something more - and i was proven correct. i'm sorry you were lobotomised as a kid..

[Opinion Owner]

Oh honey, I have no interest in continuing this conversation since you appear incapable of anything remotely resembling logical argument.

I graduated from Harvard, actually, thank God. I would really love to see you take this conversation there.

[myTake Owner]

with your dad's money. that's no kind of accomplishment. and what have you offered to humanity other than your aggression and lack of understanding. we have plenty of parasites but very few people left. you wouldn't recognise a true argument even if you saw one. thats why i try to keep it as close at your level as possible harvard girl.

[Opinion Owner]

Snort. Nope. Not with my dad's money.

Calling you out on your attitude and baseless accusations would be an ad hominem attack, which falls outside your definition of a good argument.

[myTake Owner]

which department? (it doesn't mean much but i'm slightly curious).

[Opinion Owner]

Social anthropology.

[Claraaa]

Genuinely couldn't agree with you more. And by the way sorry you had to talk with the owner of this take. Arrogance is never a good thing to encounter.

[OHGEE]

I think a lot of guys give up on women because most of them expect you to own a set of huge balls. It can be a hard knock life for some of us and many don't care to see things from that perspective. It's still foolish because I'm sure there are a lot of great women out there that are wondering when they will find the right guy for them. Most of the guys that hit on women are creeps.

[Rcjh1987]

I would never ask a guy to change I should know enough about him. that if there's something I didn't like either I would accept it or discontinue seeing him... not ALL females are materialistic as you claim we are... not ALL females care about how thick the wallet is. personally dates should be spent equally between both people it's not just the guy that pays... girls can pay too... but your not going to listen to me, no matter what I say... the only person your going to be hurting is yourself being so alone. ... I wish you luck

[myTake Owner]

a woman that didn't take it personally and could provide a somewhat cohesive and logically constructed approach. lady for whatever it is worth, i have to admit that women like you are the sole reason i don't move from asexuality to misogyny. there is still hope for humanity. i reciprocate the well intented wishes, although i would like to point out luck is not the way i walk through life, it's planning and strategic calculation. have a nice day.

[Rcjh1987]

Thank you I will take that as a compliment. You have a point planning and strategies is how most people go through their lives. .. I must add though believing in yourself and believing that you deserve to be happy also. Everyone deserves to be happy. whether you take it or not here's a hug hope things get better chin up buttercup!