What is the male equivalent of a really good looking girl?

[doireallyneedone]

A really good looking girl attracts attention from any man, can get any man and is coveted by many man.

Physical appearance for men do not count nearly as much as it does for women.

So what is the male equivalent of the above?

[IsabelleBk]

this piece of heaven right here
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[JulyAndrews]

There are women who are very wealthy and single that are sugar mommas and date very attractive young men. It's basically the male situation in reversal (an older man and his sugar baby/gold digger)

One more thing:
Some women desire wealth, status, power so that will be their nr 1 criteria.
Women who are independent don't focus wealth, status, power. They look for other qualities and physical attraction is number 1 as that is what you see when you meet a person. you decide in the first 5 seconds if it's yes or no. We women like eye candy to you know.

In the old days it was thought that women didn't care at all about looks, but in the old days women were also not seen as sexual creatures, they even thought we were completely numb down under (seriously) We live in 2014 (almost 2015) I can't believe that so many hold on to these outdated views.

[doireallyneedone]

All this is beside the point. This is not a discussion about women's rights, equality or feminism. The science of attraction in my opinion has little to do with that anyway.

Again, I am saying that looks DO matter, but not to the extent that it matters for men. I think a lot of people are underestimating how BIG of a factor looks is for men. In fact, it is the ONLY factor for many if not most men.

[JulyAndrews]

like I said elsewhere: I have had sex with men purely based on looks. I even have had sex with men whose character I didn't like but sexual attraction was too big to resist.

The first thing we see is the physical appearance. And yes many women also have thoughts like "I would love to fuck him" when seeing a hot man walking by.

[doireallyneedone]

Yes I get that woman have that. But EVERY man has these thoughts when a hot girl walks by: "I would love to fuck him".

Because I believe if what you're saying is true. That women are as horny and as visual as men, then women will be approaching and initiating as much as men do, which is clearly not the case.

[JulyAndrews]

This is not the case because society has conditioned us that men make the first move, because they are the 'hunters' and we are the 'prey'.

[Anonymous]

A decent looking successful guy = a hot girl

I get what you're saying. I mean look at Kim Kardashian.. and then look at Kanye West. Success is more important to women than looks. You'll see this with most couples. A guy can pull a 10 and be a 6 he just has to be really successful. A girl can't pull a 10 if she's a 6 because a guy doesn't care how successful women are.

If you think about it it makes sense. A woman needs a guy that's capable of helping raising her kids who she knows isn't going to leave her. A man needs someone that's hot that he can have sex with

[doireallyneedone]

Makes sense

[ASOIAF]

A really good looking guy obviously.

I'd like to see your evidence for "Physical appearance for men do not count nearly as much as it does for women." - Sounds made up to me.

Make an online dating profile for an ugly guy and a male model, identical profiles, just different pictures, see how each gets on, then try telling me looks don't matter to women.

[doireallyneedone]

Well yeah, its an opinion. Not every statement is "evidence". Just like if I asked you: I'll like to see your evidence for "A really good looking guy obviously." Lol?

And I didn't say looks DON'T matter, they DO matter 100%. Just that they don't matter as much to them as it does to us (men).

[ASOIAF]

"Make an online dating profile for an ugly guy and a male model, identical profiles, just different pictures, see how each gets on, then try telling me looks don't matter to women." - This will give you the evidence you want. Play about with other factors if you like, won't make the same level of difference as changing the picture though. I've done such experiments myself.

[ASOIAF]

Also this https://i.imgur.com/OKXBB.png

[doireallyneedone]

On a dating site the first and (one of) the only things they can accurately assess is your physical appearance (from your photo). So of course they will go with that. They cannot asses your charisma, social status, salary.

So how about this. Create a dating profile. Use an average face who is a moderately famous actor. See the response you'll get compared to just a good looking face.

My point is that looks do matter, but it seems for women, looks is not the single biggest factor.

[ASOIAF]

You'll get a shit response because everyone will know its not you lmao.

[doireallyneedone]

Oh lol. That image you sent me. The outlined figure is a "p-value". p value represents whether or not a value is statistically significant or not, the higher the value the less significant it is. If the value is greater than 0.05, it is considered NOT statistically significant. So basically, the values means physical attractiveness is NOT a statistically significant factor.

[doireallyneedone]

Yeah that's why dating sites are not accurate reflection of real life. Lets say you're an average looking guy but you're a famous singer/actor, do you think you would do worse than a good looking guy who is a plumber?

[ASOIAF]

Yeah. But the point you made was "Physical appearance for men do not count nearly as much as it does for women" - Its almost exactly as significant for men and women in said results.

And I'm not denying that extremes of wealth and status create an imbalance, 99.99% of people aren't famous actors, athletes or singers. Even then the women who get with them are essentially prostitutes.

[doireallyneedone]

I agree with your second statement. But those statistics refer to how important they are statistically, not how valuable physical attractiveness is. If anything, it means that the statistics for men are slightly more statistically relevant than the numbers for women (on physical appearance). But that's besides the point, we don't know what the actual numbers are!

[Crazyced]

A mix of looks, money, confidence and popularity with athleticism being the cherry on top is like catnip to women. Look up Derek Jeter and the many women he scored.
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[pr3ttybr0wn]

physical appearance does actually mean a lot for a guy. if a girl thinks you are fine as fuck then it carries a lot of weight. so the male equivalent of a really good looking girl is a really good looking guy. some guys underestimate the appeal of a really good looking man

[doireallyneedone]

I get what you're saying, but there's no way that's comparable to how much guys value a woman's physical appearance. It's pretty much 100% based upon physical appearance, initial attraction that is.

[jenn33]

Women care about looks too initially.
I think we care as much as men.

[doireallyneedone]

@jenn33 I know physical appearance definitely matters. But based on looks ALONE would you want to sleep with someone without ever meeting or talking to them?

[jenn33]

No. Looks alone have nothing to do with it.

[doireallyneedone]

@jenn33 Well I must say that many (if not most) men will want to have sex with a woman purely based upon looks and without meeting her.

[jenn33]

I think you're right

[JulyAndrews]

@Asker I have slept with guys purely based on appearance. Sometimes the environment calls for that lol

[LastGirlScout]

Erm, yes it does! The equivalent would be a ridiculously handsome man who walks into a room and every woman stares at, who is charming and witty and makes every woman he talks to think she's special just by the way he acts.

[doireallyneedone]

Exactly. It is the latter, not just the former, that makes him the equivalent. A beautiful just needs to be beautiful and she will be received in that same way

[LastGirlScout]

But I've seen girls swoon over some douche just because he was attractive, I think it works both ways.

[CommieKiller]

DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE WOMEN! They are lying to you, brother! None of that bullshit they mentioned matters one bit. The male equivalent of an attractive woman is a really rich man. The one thing that matters most for men is money. Nothing impresses women more than having lots of money.

[doireallyneedone]

And how to do you know this, brother?

[CommieKiller]

Because when I bought a $100 pair of Shape-ups a couple years back I had random women approach me in public constantly, asking me, "Are those shape-ups!! Squee!!" If I wear a cheap $10 pair of slip-ons though they don't look twice at me. Also, come on dude, money. Do you honestly think chicks don't care whether or not you have a Benjamin pile?

[doireallyneedone]

Well that's funny. Because I am, by most people's definition wealthy. Some may even say I am 'rich'. But I haven't always been 'rich' and I don't notice a huge difference when I'm wearing my expensive clothes for example, and when I dress 'normally'.

[CommieKiller]

Well a man's ability to provide is basically his equivalence to a woman's beauty. You shouldn't have a problem.

[doireallyneedone]

I see what you're saying. And yeah, I don't really have a problem. But I know others that do. And they make more money than me. A colleague of mine, he is rich by anyone's definition (he makes ~$4million/year), can pretty much afford anything he wants. Decent looking guy, not handsome but not ugly. He's Caucasian, 6'1. Can't find a girl. And its not a lack of trying either. Why?

[CommieKiller]

Maybe your friend has really high standards, and most women just look like trash to him? If he's that loaded though he can afford to look elsewhere, like the Philippines. There are plenty of good looking, loyal woman overseas.

[doireallyneedone]

No it's not high standards. I have a feeling its because they are repulsed by his persona.

I have a similar experience. I am 'rich' and when girls find out that I am 'rich' it does make it easier, no lying there. But, I know that I can say something stupid or act stupid and they will toss me just like how they'll toss any other guy they don't like. So I still have to game them, and I know if someone else who comes along (who may not be as rich as me), but with better game, they will score. So it seems to me, that whilst being rich is an advantage, one cannot rely on it soley. Not like how a good looking woman is not just an advantage. It's pretty much the end game. Two girls, one is good looking, one is not. 99.9% of guys will go for the good looking one.

[CommieKiller]

Trust me, I've rejected plenty of good looking girls because they had other flaws, such as being too slutty, too vapid, too psychotic, etc. There are also good looking girls who have never had a date because their personality is so bad. I know of one girl like that on here, who will probably die alone and miserable because she's such an insufferable bitch. You can't even say hi to her without her getting all defensive and shit. She's gorgeous, but she really has the temperament of a wet cat with a bad case of hemorrhoids.

[doireallyneedone]

Let me guess her name is along the lines of: Commie. So you are saying that its not all about money then?

[CommieKiller]

Actually I am not talking about that communist user. She'll be alone forever because she's ugly. Even if she had a decent personality it wouldn't help her. Oh, money isn't everything, neither is looks. But for men, money is the main issue. The vast majority of divorces in this country are initiated by women because of financial issues. That should tell you right now what's most important to women.

[doireallyneedone]

You know. I don't really agree with you because as a rich guy, I know that money alone isn't anywhere as significant as you make it. I have heard of those statistics though and it's hard to argue with that. I would think though its because the guys are probably broke though, It would be interesting to see anyone divorces because of financial reasons yet are still 'average' income.

[theCatcherintheRye]

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[Anonymous]

humble, confident, gracious, hard working, devoted to his cause, enjoys life, is happy, is extremely hard working, works out, treats everybody with kindness and respect, knows how to have fun, is smart and classy, judges himself by a high standard, has no obvious flaws.

[Anonymous]

A really good looking man is the equivalent. Guys misunderstand how much women enjoy being physically attracted to men.

[doireallyneedone]

I get what you're saying, but there's no way that's comparable to how much guys value a woman's physical appearance. It's pretty much 100% based upon physical appearance, initial attraction that is.

[Opinion Owner]

Charisma, I think, plays a part for both men and women. I think women are just more aware of it being separate from looks themselves. Bubbly, vivacious, outgoing girls who know how to make every guy feel special definitely get extra points!

[harakiri]

a hot guy. women are just as visual as men. but it goes beyond "do i wanna bang him?" i really like it when guys look cute... moreso than hot. but the best is when a guy can be BOTH. that kills me.

[lanternhill]

I would say an accomplished, confident, and of course attractive man. In other words - charisma.
And no I at least don't care much about money.

[Klaatu51]

physical appearance don't count in guys? AAAAARGHHHH

[doireallyneedone]

Counts. But not as much in women. in my opinion

[SomethingWicked]

Handsome? Attractive? Suave? Beautiful?

I don't know, pick an adjective.

[witchprincess]

A really good looking rich guy.

[Anonymous]

donald trump
bill gates
money money money!

[doireallyneedone]

I've always thought this or 'confidence personality' was the case. The mere sight of a good looking woman is enough for a man to want to sleep with her. I doubt just looking at a man (without ever speaking or meeting him) on its own is enough for a women to want to sleep with him. Physical attraction in men is important, but no where near as important in women. Not sure if money is also that powerful either. What do you think?

[Opinion Owner]

women are attracted to a man's behavior actually... not asshole behavior. someone is who confident and nice. it's not that hard.

[doireallyneedone]

I agree with that. Confidence and being a 'good' person is a powerful combination. Though I would disagree on it being easy, as if it were, every guy would be great with women.

[Opinion Owner]

Well I don't think a nice guy is easy to pass up.

[Opinion Owner]

You just have to be a good guy. Listen, you have to be honest and respectful. That's it

[Opinion Owner]

have you seen the movie bridesmaids? jon hamm plays a big time douche bag who has some girl fucking him and then asks her to leave rudely in the morning when they're done... whatever humiliation she suffers at the end is not worth the "sex" from a hottie. besides, the quality of sex has nothing to do with a guy's looks.

[JustinX]

i wish i could be an attractive guy

[doireallyneedone]

You can

[JustinX]

nah i'm can't get myself look better

[Anonymous]

A perfect looking guy