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That's fine as long as they're not making the assumption that the average joes must be working hard on themselves to make up personality wise. A similar misconception that physically attractive men may suffer from is the idea that they're all brawn/good looks but empty in side/no brain.
I think that's why you get a lot of confused good looking guys complaining about their lack of luck.
e. g. Timber, girls don't have a gauge on the guy's personality just from his photos so that's generally their assumption.
@the_rake
You get guys who are both average-looking, as well as attractive, complaning that they 'never get girls' for one reason or another.
A lot of girls will at one point or another, date a 'hunk' only to get treated like complete shit by him. Hence they start looking for their next boyfriend in a different crowd, to leave the first behind. So comes the 'average joe' to save the day. A lot of those more 'run of the mill'-type guys will be so nice, they'll become a 'nice guy'. Leaving them being friend-zoned eventually.
Luck doesn't come into play that much. It's just what some will blame their misgivings on.
@the_rake
yeah perhaps we're more selective, able to be more picky with who we sleep with than guys. Why on earth would we use that to just get the most-used dick? We're definitely not asexual.
You seem to be basing most of your arguments off of articles written by bitter men or something, not experience with actual women. It sounds like you view women as not much more than a place for a man to stick his dick.
Hello,
Most of my opinion comes from theory and experience. Also, women are entitled to their standards, so I'm not bitter. Just saying things the way they are (women are mostly asexual and hypergamous).
e. g. I wrote a question here that highlights the hypergamous nature of women, and mostly their mating strategy is asexual because they only tend to prefer men of high status or monetary wealth to reproduce with. See evidence below:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1739712-are-women-hypergamous
In short, women just don't enjoy sex as much as men. If this wasn't true then they would be willing to engage in casual sex as frequently as men are.
@the_rake
In short, women just don't enjoy sex as much as men. If this wasn't true then they would be willing to engage in casual sex as frequently as men are.
So fucking simple. So many things wrong with that statement. I guess in your world, slut-shaming doesn't exist. Perhaps your life goal is to reach a record amount of pussy,
That's cool. I prefer to get a guy who's got good dick in addition to a good emotional connection but hey, to each their own.
That's true, slut-shaming is mostly a rhetorical device used by feminists with quite a bit of strategic importance. I posted a question about this exact topic earlier:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1738362-does-slut-shaming-really-exist
I'm surprised nobody has pointed out the hypocrisy of 'slut-shaming' before. Most people just take it's existence as a given.
As for women being (mostly) asexual, yes it's true. It's like the difference between cats and dogs eating their food: Cats prefer to nibble and walk away, then come back (they only really eat for survival purposes). Dogs are happy to just eat their food in one serving because they have a more hearty appetite. Cats also tend to be much more selective about what you feed them.
However when it comes to women and sex, women (in particular feminist women) prefer to make out as if they appreciate sex more than the other gender. This misconception has contributed to many social ills, including the social justification of female hypergamy and the widespread emasculation of men.
@the_rake
How can you say that either gender wants sex more than the other, having only ever experienced one side of it though?
Observation. EVERYTHING I write is based on observation, since you, I and everyone else will only experience a small segment of the opposite gender's population (or both genders depending on yourself).
It's obvious. Look at the tinder study I posted earlier: 240 women (out of 300 women) slept with 50 men (out of 300 men) on tinder. Since this is the majority of women, a significant portion will have been below average attractiveness, compared to 50/300 men, consisting of a relatively small and elite segment of the male population.
Why do men mostly approach women and not the other way round? Because by nature men are initiators, and women are selectors. Men are far more highly invested in sexual reproduction.
All of this supports the 20% theory (that 20% of men - the alpha males - sleep with 80% of women). Furthermore, it also confirms my personal experience and what I have observed of others, when it comes to intrasexual interaction.
@the_rake
Really? Studies based on Tinder? Horrible study in my opinion. Where the sample and population are 99% composed of men and women who are thirsty af and looking for the dirty.
This is why statistics should always be taken with a grain of salt.
I find it amusing how you prefer to nitpick small points and ignore the rest.
Yes 99% of sex hungry men and women (assuming Tinder does not have a legitimate dating function) and regardless only a very small, selective portion of the male population are successful. This is evidence enough that women selectively favour polygynous hypergamy.
But if you want more proof, there was also a study (1960s?) that proved majority of women responded negatively to casual sex requests compared to the majority of men. I can dig it up if you insist.
If you haven't already, look at some of the other links provided. These show how women show interest in wealthy men (the gold digger prank) besides video evidence of how women respond differently to sexualised talk from alpha males compared to beta males (video from real social dynamics).
All of this is evidence enough but it is not rocket science and I don't need evidence. Simple observation proves it: women are mostly asexual and favour hypergamy.
@the_rake
I'm not going to waste time looking at links/studies that supposedly support your point that women are sexual and favour hypergamy. I know fully well that I'm anything but asexual, quite the opposite, and completely dick-whipped by just one.
Nice try, though.
Found the study:
https://www.elainehatfield.com/79.pdf
' the study had a male and female participant go up to random members of the opposite sex and ask “Would you like to go out tonight?”, “Would you like to go back to my apartment?”, and “Would you like to go to bed with me?” Men and women were equally likely – 50% – to go on a date, but when it came to sex, the results weren’t terribly surprising;upwards of 75% of men said yes to sex while absolutely 0 women agreed that yes, they would like to go to bed with a total stranger who propositioned them in the middle of the day on a college campus.'
@the_rake
upwards of 75% of men said yes to sex while absolutely 0 women agreed that yes, they would like to go to bed with a total stranger who propositioned them in the middle of the day on a college campus.'
Isn't that countering one of the points you made in your desperation to be 'right'? Where you claimed that the top priority when a woman decides to have sex with someone is how many others girls they've stuck it in before?
.. which is exactly what you're trying to do. To tell me, a girl, what the majority of other girls want. Even though you have a dick.
that's just another author's take on the study. I don't agree with that author's criticisms of the study: I copied and pasted out of laziness since it seems I happen to be doing most of the work here getting studies and what not.
I don't really think it's in women's interests to admit the opposite for reasons I highlighted on a different question (see the question about slut-shaming).
@the_rake
mhmmm... okay. Because I really care what people in an online forum who don't know me in real life think of me.
'.. which is exactly what you're trying to do. To tell me, a girl, what the majority of other girls want. Even though you have a dick. '
nobody knows anything outside their own perspective - who knows the earth could be flat. that's the whole point of empirical observation, to find things out about the world around you through observation and experience.
for most men, these things, combined with their gut instinct tells them that women are mostly asexual and favour hypergamous polygyny.
'"upwards of 75% of men said yes to sex while absolutely 0 women agreed that yes, they would like to go to bed with a total stranger who propositioned them in the middle of the day on a college campus."
Isn't that countering one of the points you made in your desperation to be 'right'? Where you claimed that the top priority when a woman decides to have sex with someone is how many others girls they've stuck it in before? '
also you happen to be interpreting this falsely. probably part of the REASON they do not sleep with these men is because as strangers, they have little idea of their social status (e. g. their wealth, position in society, abundance of women / attractiveness to other women, etc., etc.).
' mhmmm... okay. Because I really care what people in an online forum who don't know me in real life think of me. '
LOL.
I have absolutely no opinion of you whatsoever. to me this is just a factual discussion, partially for my own entertainment, partially to exercise my analytical facilities. I have no interest in you and no opinion of you as a person whatsoever.
@the_rake
you're making zero sense now. Believe whatever you want, enjoy life in your little fantasy world. :)
so many ad hominems and false statements / assumptions:
'which is exactly what you're trying to do. To tell me, a girl, what the majority of other girls want. Even though you have a dick.'
'So fucking simple. So many things wrong with that statement. I guess in your world, slut-shaming doesn't exist. Perhaps your life goal is to reach a record amount of pussy,'
' mhmmm... okay. Because I really care what people in an online forum who don't know me in real life think of me. '
'Why on earth would we use that to just get the most-used dick?'
'I prefer to get a guy who's got good dick '
' I know fully well that I'm anything but asexual, quite the opposite, and completely dick-whipped by just one'
I should be the one whinging about personal insults not you. LOL.
again:
theory, research, empirical observations and personal experience =/= living in a fantasy world
also, add that statement to my list of ad homs.
I think you're just mad that you can't think of any better ripostes.
I'll just have to assume that this marks an end to any potential rational discourse and call it a day.
@the_rake
my god, you're impossible. If I'm mad, it's just that I spent so much time trying to reason with a lunatic.
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