Ummm, no, not all. Mental health is a serious issue in our culture and I'm seeing a few tendencies in your writing, OP.
Myself, for instance? I deal with codependency. Looking back, every previous romantic interest was one type of problematic pairing with various disorders or another. The worst was the last one where she had Borderline Personality Disorder. It took dealing with her and all the damage that brought to finally break down and examine my own issues.
Now that I recognize it and I'm dealing with it? I'm noticing women who I never really would have considered before. I didn't consider them before because they were invisible to me then. They're healthy for me and it's completely alien to me and my life.
I hope you take what I've said to heart. For all those girls who've been told to "check your friendzone" for a great guy, this might be your mea culpa. Act now and you might get a really cute one, too.
The girls you speak of are raised to be sociopaths, that's all. Luckily, not every female is like that. You need to make sure that the person you are interacting with has minimal social and emotional intelligence, empathy, and isn't harboring a sexist perspective.
Wow that's really unfair considering you don't even know every single female person in this world? Maybe you should make better decisions about the kinds of girls you hangout with. Not every one is like that. And it does matter who someone is and what they've been through? If a guy cheats on me and is disrespectful to me do you honestly expect me to give a fuck about his feelings anymore?
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Of course I don't know every single girl in the world. But I don't get to make decisions about the kind of girls I hang out with- I'll approach any girl, every girl, not even romantically, but just to try and find someone to talk with. But when 99.99% of them have been like that, that's comprehensive enough to start viewing it as scientifically proven, at least with regards to myself. If some girl could prove me wrong some day, I'd be the happiest guy in the world to admit I was wrong. But I've had to accept that no girls will give enough of a damn to even entertain having a brief conversation with me in passing, and to stop trying to reach out to them when I know it gets the same results. It's hard, but I can become that cold, emotionless, apathetic rock they want me to be- and when I am, they'll entertain talking with me. But the moment I show any emotion whatsoever, to laugh or smile or frown or wince, those females can't stand being around me any more, and they're gone.
Women are unfair and life is unfair, and what has this got to do with cheating on someone. Your just assuming that a girl always has a good reason to mistreat men. 99.99% of the time they don. t. Sounds like your a bit bitter
@TimeSplitters123 I was giving and example as to why I would not give a damn about a guys feelings. There are plenty of reasons to not care about someone but there are also plenty of reasons to care about someone
i do give a damn!!! i really do.. i love when guys show feelings and not acting like they have no feelings for nothing yea, i little bit agree with you.. there are bitches that only wanna play with guys, and humiliate them and reject them but you can't talk about all woman like that
also girls can talk 'men are the same' right? there are assholes who only want woman to fuck her and use her.. but also there are really great guys..
it's fact and because you experienced maybe rejaction or meet bitches there're not all of tham like that!!!
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If it makes you feel any better there is people out there who do care, and they care a whole heck of a lot. I for one care about people's feelings, especially guy's... even if I have never met the person in my life! I personally hate that social expectation that guys have to be rock-solid. Its so incredibly stupid. Yeah that may have been how it was back in the 50' but if people havn't noticed by now, we're not living in the 50'! I'm really sorry that the women in your life have treated you in a way that makes you believe this. Its horrible and I really wish I could help but I have no way to shut those ladies up.
Ill tell you why its because were men! We are expected to be the "backbone" of the relationship look its a MF cold world out there and for any man to survive you have to have "thick skin". By nature Women are caregivers they are emotional all the time men are providers we dont have time to get emotional were usually too busy trying to work to provide the next meal this is the reason women respond to what seems to be unemotional men because emotional men are less dependable women are already emotional they dont want an emotional man to sit next to them and worry they want someone to look them in the eyes and say "dont worry i got this well be fine!"
Your description of what you think a woman wants out of a man sounds terrifying. I don't think I'm that unusual, and I definitely think both women AND men should be able to show their feelings in a non-abusive way. It sounds like you've had some really bad experiences with women. That's not nearly all women though. Some women could say they've had the same problem with men. But they wouldn't have experienced all men either.
Woah woah woah. Saying that every woman is a sadistic demon and don't give a shit about men's feelings is a bit harsh. Of course there are going to be some women like this, but I've heard and seen others be treated like this by men as well! It's not fair to just generalise like that.
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Well, to be fair, if I could edit the original question, I'd temper the language in places and take away the absolutism. But that was how I'd been made to feel, and it's still how I feel now, at least with regards to every woman I've ever managed to interact with long enough to build an impression of them. I know it's not fair to just generalise like that- that's why I still bother to consider their feelings, why I still try to presume that they're worth caring about. Even though I've never had even the slightest bit of empathy or compassion reciprocated by any woman, I refuse to stop showing empathy and compassion to women. But I'm practically 29yrs old- 100% of the women I've ever tried to introduce myself to, over 1000 in total, have all either been like this, or have deliberately gone out of their way to treat me in this manner. When do I give up, admit that it's futile, and start acting like all of the guys who get the girls, because they genuinely don't give a shit about them?
Okay I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with you. Maybe the girls you know are kinda not mature? Only cuz u probs had a bad past with certain girls you can't assume most girls are like that.
I actually don't mind if a guy reveals their feelings, they're humans too.
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Actually, I've found that the only exceptions to the rule are girls who happen to be younger, and less mature- every single girl older than 21 who I've ever approached has been like this, and every girl except for one exception above the age of 19. Is it because they've lost all faith in men that they're like this? Is it because they're afraid of being hurt again, so they go out of their way to attack every guy who tries to approach them first so that they won't get hurt again?
Well the girls over 18 probs have had a bad experience with certain guys, but I still don't get why they see guys that express their emotions as weak 😐. It's to do with what's up their heads I think.
Don't give a Damn mate seriously. Do what you want. Confidence is the key 💚💚💚
Well I do care about every guy's feeling even if they don't deserve to be treated well. Because at the end of the end of the day, they can say that I'm a really good-hearted person who cares. Well I kind of understand where you're coming from but at the same time, know that there are nice women out there who actually do care. And the ones that aren't like that, they probably have some type of problem in past relationships and I would try to look at it from that perspective. And then again, some women like to be like that because they think its cute or whatever. Or they just surround themselves in the wrong crowd.
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i dont think i treat guys like that but there are girls who do witch im sorry u have to deal with those girls just get rid of them there worth nothing to you just keep looking you will find the right person i know that im young and all but i am still commenting. most of the girls who act that way have been treated badly by a guy and its kind of like breaking up you want to be the first one so you dont hurt as much i guess. also a lot of them are full of themselves and bad to say but probably think there cooler or better than every one. plus i think its just kind of competitiveness to prove they are bigger or better. i dont like seeing guys suffer psychologically or emotionally i have seen both of my brothers after break ups and let me say it is very depressing and sad and i would never want a guy to have deal with that girls are just cruel. i hope this helped a little and sorry you have to deal with all the mean girls
Guy fucks over girl who loves him Then that girl fucks over guy who loves her Then that guy fucks over different girl who loves him. And so on and so on.
People just need to have a little bit of respect and care slightly about others feelings... not to sound like a pussy. Empathy and honesty is all that's neended.
I'm extremely compassionate towards anyone I love. Random guys who try to hit on me I admit I do let down but in a gentle way. I only get firm if they really push it. Guy friends I'm really caring towards. My one guy friend who I like I have such a soft spot for. Once I did hurt him and I felt awful for days and talked it out with him and admitted I made a mistake, so I do care:)
Because men and women through their lives reinforce the gender stereotypes of how men and women should behave this has gone on for a long time and will continue to do so.
No all women are as you describe BUT there is a good potential for some of what you speak of because of how men are 'supposed' to be in most everyone's view same for women.
that is messed up. I don't think that any girl should treat a guy like that. I don't, and never would. I know too many guys with so many emotions similar to mine, and relate to them so well. I always want to make sure a guy that I am fond of or am friends with is doing alright, and would try to help if he wasn't. a lot of girls are just like that because they don't want their own feelings, I guess. I don't know what more to tell you.
I'm really sorry that you've been treated like shit, but that isn't what's typical. Most girls aren't like that to most guys. I am a very sensitive person despite how I may seem online and I am always there for anyone who wants to talk so long as they're not assholes themselves. I've been treated like shit by a couple of guys and I know the hurt. But I know not all guys are like that.
You might have just had a string of bad luck having blinded-by-privalge feminists as all your dates and i don't meant to be sexist but I've seen many things on the internet involving things like this so...
I can't really say much as i have yet to have any sort of romance let alone a date...
Most of them are nuts and narcissistic mate. They just get a good at pretending they give a flying fuck about the next person. That's why this women in charge shit scares the fuck out of me. They get better when they're older but most, not all, but most of the younger ones are total arseholes
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Ummm, no, not all. Mental health is a serious issue in our culture and I'm seeing a few tendencies in your writing, OP.
Myself, for instance? I deal with codependency. Looking back, every previous romantic interest was one type of problematic pairing with various disorders or another. The worst was the last one where she had Borderline Personality Disorder. It took dealing with her and all the damage that brought to finally break down and examine my own issues.
Now that I recognize it and I'm dealing with it? I'm noticing women who I never really would have considered before. I didn't consider them before because they were invisible to me then. They're healthy for me and it's completely alien to me and my life.
I hope you take what I've said to heart. For all those girls who've been told to "check your friendzone" for a great guy, this might be your mea culpa. Act now and you might get a really cute one, too.
The girls you speak of are raised to be sociopaths, that's all. Luckily, not every female is like that. You need to make sure that the person you are interacting with has minimal social and emotional intelligence, empathy, and isn't harboring a sexist perspective.
By "minimal", I mean they at least meet a reasonable threshold so that they can function as trustworthy civilized human beings.
Wow that's really unfair considering you don't even know every single female person in this world? Maybe you should make better decisions about the kinds of girls you hangout with. Not every one is like that. And it does matter who someone is and what they've been through? If a guy cheats on me and is disrespectful to me do you honestly expect me to give a fuck about his feelings anymore?
Of course I don't know every single girl in the world. But I don't get to make decisions about the kind of girls I hang out with- I'll approach any girl, every girl, not even romantically, but just to try and find someone to talk with. But when 99.99% of them have been like that, that's comprehensive enough to start viewing it as scientifically proven, at least with regards to myself. If some girl could prove me wrong some day, I'd be the happiest guy in the world to admit I was wrong. But I've had to accept that no girls will give enough of a damn to even entertain having a brief conversation with me in passing, and to stop trying to reach out to them when I know it gets the same results. It's hard, but I can become that cold, emotionless, apathetic rock they want me to be- and when I am, they'll entertain talking with me. But the moment I show any emotion whatsoever, to laugh or smile or frown or wince, those females can't stand being around me any more, and they're gone.
Women are unfair and life is unfair, and what has this got to do with cheating on someone. Your just assuming that a girl always has a good reason to mistreat men. 99.99% of the time they don. t. Sounds like your a bit bitter
@TimeSplitters123 I was giving and example as to why I would not give a damn about a guys feelings. There are plenty of reasons to not care about someone but there are also plenty of reasons to care about someone
i do give a damn!!! i really do.. i love when guys show feelings and not acting like they have no feelings for nothing
yea, i little bit agree with you.. there are bitches that only wanna play with guys, and humiliate them and reject them but you can't talk about all woman like that
also girls can talk 'men are the same' right? there are assholes who only want woman to fuck her and use her.. but also there are really great guys..
it's fact and because you experienced maybe rejaction or meet bitches there're not all of tham like that!!!
If it makes you feel any better there is people out there who do care, and they care a whole heck of a lot. I for one care about people's feelings, especially guy's... even if I have never met the person in my life! I personally hate that social expectation that guys have to be rock-solid. Its so incredibly stupid. Yeah that may have been how it was back in the 50' but if people havn't noticed by now, we're not living in the 50'! I'm really sorry that the women in your life have treated you in a way that makes you believe this. Its horrible and I really wish I could help but I have no way to shut those ladies up.
If it makes you feel any better... I generally don't care about anyone's feelings, guys or girls.
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That's so cute?
that is actually worse.
that makes 3 of us op!
LOL this made my night
Nice, a sociopath.
Ill tell you why its because were men! We are expected to be the "backbone" of the relationship look its a MF cold world out there and for any man to survive you have to have "thick skin". By nature Women are caregivers they are emotional all the time men are providers we dont have time to get emotional were usually too busy trying to work to provide the next meal this is the reason women respond to what seems to be unemotional men because emotional men are less dependable women are already emotional they dont want an emotional man to sit next to them and worry they want someone to look them in the eyes and say "dont worry i got this well be fine!"
Your description of what you think a woman wants out of a man sounds terrifying. I don't think I'm that unusual, and I definitely think both women AND men should be able to show their feelings in a non-abusive way. It sounds like you've had some really bad experiences with women. That's not nearly all women though. Some women could say they've had the same problem with men. But they wouldn't have experienced all men either.
And by the way, I give a damn about everyone's feelings, including men. Actually, to a very unhealthy level for myself. And I am a woman.
Woah woah woah. Saying that every woman is a sadistic demon and don't give a shit about men's feelings is a bit harsh. Of course there are going to be some women like this, but I've heard and seen others be treated like this by men as well! It's not fair to just generalise like that.
Well, to be fair, if I could edit the original question, I'd temper the language in places and take away the absolutism. But that was how I'd been made to feel, and it's still how I feel now, at least with regards to every woman I've ever managed to interact with long enough to build an impression of them. I know it's not fair to just generalise like that- that's why I still bother to consider their feelings, why I still try to presume that they're worth caring about. Even though I've never had even the slightest bit of empathy or compassion reciprocated by any woman, I refuse to stop showing empathy and compassion to women. But I'm practically 29yrs old- 100% of the women I've ever tried to introduce myself to, over 1000 in total, have all either been like this, or have deliberately gone out of their way to treat me in this manner. When do I give up, admit that it's futile, and start acting like all of the guys who get the girls, because they genuinely don't give a shit about them?
Okay I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with you. Maybe the girls you know are kinda not mature? Only cuz u probs had a bad past with certain girls you can't assume most girls are like that.
I actually don't mind if a guy reveals their feelings, they're humans too.
Actually, I've found that the only exceptions to the rule are girls who happen to be younger, and less mature- every single girl older than 21 who I've ever approached has been like this, and every girl except for one exception above the age of 19. Is it because they've lost all faith in men that they're like this? Is it because they're afraid of being hurt again, so they go out of their way to attack every guy who tries to approach them first so that they won't get hurt again?
Well the girls over 18 probs have had a bad experience with certain guys, but I still don't get why they see guys that express their emotions as weak 😐. It's to do with what's up their heads I think.
Don't give a Damn mate seriously. Do what you want. Confidence is the key 💚💚💚
Well I do care about every guy's feeling even if they don't deserve to be treated well. Because at the end of the end of the day, they can say that I'm a really good-hearted person who cares. Well I kind of understand where you're coming from but at the same time, know that there are nice women out there who actually do care. And the ones that aren't like that, they probably have some type of problem in past relationships and I would try to look at it from that perspective. And then again, some women like to be like that because they think its cute or whatever. Or they just surround themselves in the wrong crowd.
i dont think i treat guys like that but there are girls who do witch im sorry u have to deal with those girls just get rid of them there worth nothing to you just keep looking you will find the right person i know that im young and all but i am still commenting. most of the girls who act that way have been treated badly by a guy and its kind of like breaking up you want to be the first one so you dont hurt as much i guess. also a lot of them are full of themselves and bad to say but probably think there cooler or better than every one. plus i think its just kind of competitiveness to prove they are bigger or better. i dont like seeing guys suffer psychologically or emotionally i have seen both of my brothers after break ups and let me say it is very depressing and sad and i would never want a guy to have deal with that girls are just cruel. i hope this helped a little and sorry you have to deal with all the mean girls
It's a never ending cycle.
Guy fucks over girl who loves him
Then that girl fucks over guy who loves her
Then that guy fucks over different girl who loves him.
And so on and so on.
People just need to have a little bit of respect and care slightly about others feelings... not to sound like a pussy. Empathy and honesty is all that's neended.
I'm extremely compassionate towards anyone I love. Random guys who try to hit on me I admit I do let down but in a gentle way. I only get firm if they really push it. Guy friends I'm really caring towards. My one guy friend who I like I have such a soft spot for. Once I did hurt him and I felt awful for days and talked it out with him and admitted I made a mistake, so I do care:)
"why do only females have freedom of emotion?"
Because men and women through their lives reinforce the gender stereotypes of how men and women should behave this has gone on for a long time and will continue to do so.
No all women are as you describe BUT there is a good potential for some of what you speak of because of how men are 'supposed' to be in most everyone's view same for women.
Awe this makes me sad. I care about guys feelings :/
that is messed up. I don't think that any girl should treat a guy like that. I don't, and never would. I know too many guys with so many emotions similar to mine, and relate to them so well. I always want to make sure a guy that I am fond of or am friends with is doing alright, and would try to help if he wasn't. a lot of girls are just like that because they don't want their own feelings, I guess. I don't know what more to tell you.
I'm really sorry that you've been treated like shit, but that isn't what's typical. Most girls aren't like that to most guys. I am a very sensitive person despite how I may seem online and I am always there for anyone who wants to talk so long as they're not assholes themselves.
I've been treated like shit by a couple of guys and I know the hurt. But I know not all guys are like that.
You might have just had a string of bad luck having blinded-by-privalge feminists as all your dates and i don't meant to be sexist but I've seen many things on the internet involving things like this so...
I can't really say much as i have yet to have any sort of romance let alone a date...
Most of them are nuts and narcissistic mate. They just get a good at pretending they give a flying fuck about the next person. That's why this women in charge shit scares the fuck out of me. They get better when they're older but most, not all, but most of the younger ones are total arseholes