+1 yHonestly this is a very offensive and generalized question. Not all women don't care about a mans feelings. Yes there are women like that, only in a relationship for themselves, but there ARE good women.
Nobody is perfect and women do mess up as men do too. But the only time a woman would derive any pleasure from emotionally hurting a man is if he hurt her and she got revenge or if she is a sociopath.
Men and women are equal, we are all fucking human beings and that won't and can't change.
Men sometimes do the same thing to women but I would never say ALL men do this. Not ALL men are sociopathic towards women feelings.
You are just meeting the wrong type of women and my friend, I think it's time for you to look elsewhere for your women companions.
A true woman would not want to hurt a man emotionally and definitely would not derive pleasure from it.
It is NOT hilarious for a man to get emotionally devastated, EVER. The same goes for women, it is NEVER funny for women to get hurt.
Yes SOME women believe it is but also SOME men believe it is too.
It is double standards you're talking about when it comes to this because it is just women you're talking about.
If in your personal experiences women have hurt you time and time again, it is because you are letting them. You are befriending and/or dating the wrong type of women honey.
Find a woman who is loving, caring, nurturing. No one is perfect and women who are loving and caring will not be perfect either but they'd never want a man in emotional pain.
I myself would die a little inside if I hurt someone I cared about.
I would not care however, if I mildly offend some random man on the internet simply because he disagreed with my opinion.
I love and care for my friends and most of my family, and in the future I will love and care for my SO. If I marry a man and we end up divorced, I would NEVER want him to be in any pain, The only time he and I would divorce is if he cheats on me or he is unhappy with me. I would never hurt a man like that. I would want to be the one to make my husband smile, having insanely amazing sex, have a good meal and cuddle till he and I fall asleep. There is only one man I would wish any pain upon and that is my father because of what he did to me, my life and who he is as a person. My ex boyfriend broke my heart and I wouldn't wish that type of pain on him although he inflicted it upon me. Please sir, try to find a good woman. Don't overgeneralize an entire sex ok?132 Reply
Asker+1 yI apologize if you found the question offensive, but that's just my personal experience. That women's feelings are always given absolute precedence over men's feelings, which are deemed to be all but worthless and meaningless. Men aren't allowed to feel, because empathy and compassion aren't deemed 'manly'- any time I've even tried to smile at a girl, to make conversation with her or tell her how I feel about absolutely anything, those girls, hundreds of them over the years, have slammed the door in my face; calling me every name under the sun, telling me that I'm "not a Real Man" for caring enough about them to ask them their names and conduct myself in a gentlemanly manner, and a "pussy" and "creep" because I won't harass and assault them sexually off the bat "like a Real Man would". Men are expected to be rocks; domineering, hard, cold and rugged- it isn't socially acceptable for men to feel, especially in the eyes of women. Why? And are there any good women who aren't like that?
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I appreciate you for apologizing and I forgive you, I understand you didn't mean it to be offensive. Us there are good women like that. I personally believe it isn't a pussy thing to do for a man to share his feelings or just be nice. I think it is manly for a male to admit his feelings, if he likes a girl or is unhappy or is crying or something. There are few times in which I would find it creepy or pathetic for a guy to do that.
You just need to find a woman who wants a real man. Someone who can be strong and solid for her but also sensitive and sweet for her.
You should look elsewhere for your women, and maybe change your domineer. Start out with a regular conversation, befriend them and be nice.
Trust me, if a woman is deserving and intelligent enough to recognize that you're a good guy, then she's someone you should date.
Please don't let your negative experiences blind you from the positive ones.
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+1 yWhen I see homeless men in the street, who other fellow men blatantly ignored, I talk to them like they're actually human beings. I ask how their day is going, I smile at them, then I give them a dollar or 2.
But you're right, I don't care about men's emotions/feelings.
When I work at my bar, there's a homeless veteran who everyone (that includes his fellow men), ignore because they think he smells too much and that he's gone mad. I greet him everyday. I talk to him more than just "what would you like to drink". I listen to his stories. I've seen him shed tears, I've seen him smile from ear to ear.
But you're right, I don't care about men's emotions.
When I see a cause, like donate to men's prostate cancer research. Or men's shelters. I give money.
But you're right, I don't care about men's emotions.
When my brother was sad and crying because his child was in the hospital, I consoled him. And we hoped that my nephew would get better.
But you're right, I don't care about men's emotions.
When my other brother was happy that he was able to turn his life around and graduate high school with very good grades, I took him out to eat and celebrate his accomplishments.
But you're right, I don't care about men's emotions.125 Reply- +1 y
Not one time did I tell any of the guys to be rocks or to hold back on the emotions.
We don't want robots with no feelings. I feel that guys are the ones who mock other guys and call them "pussies" for crying. Just like women set up arbitrary fashion rules like "don't wear white after Labor Day" where men don't care. Men "check" each other more on masculinity, while women "check" each other more on appearance. And then we blame the opposite gender when it's our own gender doing the harm.
Women don't like men who cry when you accidentally trip either, but if your child is sick in the hospital, hell yes it's ok to cry. When you just get married and it's tears of joy, hell yes you better cry. We won't call you a pussy or wuss or whatever men do to each other.
We like listening to feelings and stories.
Asker+1 yI'd disagree- the standards for both masculinity and femininity are set primarily by members of the opposite sex. Our own genders then reinforce those arbitrary rules, but they're still rules which were put in place by members of the opposite sex nonetheless. And by the way, I'm not talking about crying- I'm talking about little things like laughing, smiling, frowning, and expressing my feelings about things (and people) in a calm and collected manner. Those are the sorts of things which dozens of women HAVE called me a wuss, a weakling and a pussy for- expressing my feelings and telling them stories is exactly what I've tried to do, and when I have, they've almost always told me to my face that they don't fucking give a damn about me, my feelings or anything I can possibly say to them.
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All I can say is you around toxic women. I've never heard of people being that callous though. So I'm having a hard time believing that.
Are they family? Friends? Coworkers? Strangers?
Asker+1 yStrangers, for the most part. Social acquaintances, those who share the same interests as me, those who I meet at dating events, and in pubs, bars and clubs across the country. Used to be co-workers for a short time, when I worked in an environment with co-workers. Before that, used to be students who attended the same universities and schools as I did, along with their friends. All started at secondary school, when I made perhaps the most emotional public outburst I've ever done in the middle of the courtyard- telling one of my classmates, who'd regaled all of the rest with the tale of how he'd lost his virginity last night by brutally raping a 9yr old girl, that he, and all of the rest of them patting him on the back for it (including six girls), were all sick, depraved monsters, and that I'd rather die a virgin than sink to their level and lose mine by raping little girls. Everyone laughed, and from then on, every girl at school who I tried to ask out rejected me for being a virgin.
Human beings are complex. Many women take pleasure in seeing men in pain. Why? Because they've been hurt and get their revenge out on every man they meet. They are vicious, cold, dramatic. You seem to live surrounded by women who haven't shown you what real love is like. What it is to be cared for, nurtured, loved by a tender, soft woman. Freedom is important, freedom to feel and express what you feel. There isn't something more important than freedom, at least to me. And I find it intolerable to have love without freedom. To me, it doesn't matter if someone says they love me but then hold on to me hard and suffocate me. Love is something full of light. When someone truly loves you, they will let you be free. Free to feel, to express, to be. I assure you the world isn't lost and women aren't all vicious. Just don't give up on finding a woman who will love you tenderly and let you be free to be yourself, and to express your feelings as immensely as you want to. Don't let anyone take away the right you have to your freedom.
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Asker+1 yYep. Going back to this question now, 7 months later, I think I'd choose this as the MHO instead. Thank you...
+1 yI do give a damn. I give a SHITLOAD OF DAMNS.
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Because most girls are 100% like this when you heaf about a fight i. A girl eyes she always makes it sound like the guy 100% eyethen you find out what she did n you like wtf? Not even joking not matter how nice a guy is even if the girl was 100% in the wrong 9-10 the guy is always the bad guy. But I give u a thumbs up
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@skykidx1 I've not found that. Been out with loads of girls who could admit when they were wrong after the argument had cooled down. I'll admit when I've been at fault too, though most times we both just apologise after an argument (eventually :p) and move on.
Also, if you look at what a lot of girls here are saying, they do care about guys feelings and it's really nice to see :) - +1 y
@Matt2k like my ex told her parents I told her to gofuckk herself n told her I was dumping her if things did changed because she did want to see me that day. Then told them I got was upset because she wanted to hang out with a friend. Mean while this was a friend who attack her 1 year ago and she was talking to 5 man she used to send naked pics too n had them flirting with her n kep. Cling back telling me about. Tried telling her this blamed me for 20 day said tell them to respected the fact am dating u or stop telling me this shit. Yea I was too much o. A understand guy back then now I just don't give a duck. But I got 100 story's like this that or lease crazy. I know women who bitch because they Man never give them any attention then dump them n bitch to ke about it. But guey neber give their man alt attion lol i had a guy tell me he had to beg hi. girlfriend just to video chat with him.
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Thanks for the MHO
i agree with you bro, I've went through this last year more then i could wish for. My ex girlfriend, haven't seen her over a year now. When she miscarried our child, she became very distant, cold and extremely hateful towards me, and i never figured out why. Even during the pregnancy she was very hateful, hormones or not, it's not nice of her to tell me i will never get to see my child without any reason, i never got any closure from her, just insults. after that i dated a girl briefly but she was moaning about her ex boyfriend who treated her like crap. then her mom started hitting on me, nothing happened between us, she was a married women, however i did like her a lot, so she went out clubbing with some other guy who was hitting on her, the same day i told her that what she is doing is wrong, it was on a mothersday as well. that guy kissed her in the neck and when her husband saw it she told him that i had grabbed her neck firmly, which i never did. later she texted me that i had ruined her life when i told the guy the truth and that she wanted to ruin my life. i never did her any wrong. then i dated some girl, and she was just crazy. her demands were crazy, i had to break up with a female friend who i wasn't romantically involved with, her feelings were the only ones that counted, not mine. she acted like i was some cheater and whenever i dissapointed her she would make sure i get to know. then i stayed single for few months till i dated another girl, it went great but it soon stopped. she would let me pay for everything, i would do stuff but she kept saying a relationship was 50/50 well it felt like 80//20 i was doing stuff around the house, playing with her daughter who i really cared about, and when we could have had some alone time she just wanted to get drunk, letting guys aproach her, and when i stood up for because some guy was all over her she was pissed at me. she would take me for granted, she would betitle me, insult me, criticize me, and our last fight was about her sending me home the day before around 11 in the eve, she was tired, and then she called me around 2 in the morning, and had drunken guy friends over at 4;30 in the morning, she couldnt get why that upset me. she threw my stuff out when i confronted her about it, and she saw me sitting with tears in my eyes and she couldnt care less, she just shut the door and that was it. later we tried to talk things through and she would claim i still owed her money which i never did.
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even know im struggling, i tried dating 2 other women, and they broke things off after 1 date, saying they had a great time only to tell me 2 days after that they met some other guy, i tried having conversations but either they ignored me or acted distant, its rude and painful. im just sick and tired of women if you ask me,
622 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. I think it is because you are too giving, too available and you don't stand your ground. I think that is why women treat you like that man. I don't know about you, but i have learnead that in order for girls to respect you, you have to be sort of a dick to them, otherwise they will get tired of you and call you needy and desperate.
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+1 yWhy don't any girls give a damn about guys' feelings?
Likely the same reason I find most guys don't give a damn about gals feelings. Such as using manipulative and deceptive tactics to have sex rather than seek mutual attraction and desire/consent. Or treating every gal they find attractive like a sexual object or eye candy ala catcalling and approaches yet not grasping gals may find it offensive or not want to be disturbed. In those cases I find most guys rather than listen to gals feelings will talk over gals.
That reason being I find most people tend to be quite self-centered only or mainly caring about their own feelings.
Are all women sadistic psychopaths who derive pleasure from human suffering and despair?
They're not as I find there are very very few character traits that apply to all members of a group. And sadism and psychopathy are not common going by psychological studies.
Or is it just that they perceive men to be lesser beings, mere beasts rather than actual humans?
I doubt this as I find it has been males that historically perceive gals to be lesser beings. At a time gals seemingly were regarded as property and in current times it is seemingly a commonplace norm to use a derogatory insult like bitch interchangeably for the general female population. I have yet to see males get similar treatment.
Why do only females have freedom of emotion?
Probably because in society it seems only males have the freedom of logic. Most things gals say or do may be easily dismissed as her pmsing, overreacting, or being emotional while a male's words and actions may be seen as the token truth because males are oh so logic.2163 Reply- +1 y
Bull, women are doing the same to men, the wrong men just to get the own back for things that happened to women 20 or 30 years ago, i see then say it, they say 'men have belittled us for long enough, now it is our turn to do it back'. Plus women always like to insult men, like going ewww at the appearances or calling them retard or creep or weird or freak, or cringing at strangers for no good reason, or bossing their husbands around and stropping until they get their own way. Or taking the mickey out of men with disabilities.
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I hear this EVERY TIME I rarely even see situations where girls are being used for sex anymore it's like freaking 1 out of every hundredth girl/woman experiences this, Honestly in my situation and even in my bro's situation it's the same, with women, over and over again. And then they say things like "oh your looking for the wrong female" who said I was looking? You can't control who you are attracted to
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@TimeSplitters123
If women are doing the same to men then what is commonplace norm where a the derogatory insult used interchangeably for the general male population?
If women are doing the same to men then what is the same right that is being denied to men that gals have?
None of the actions you listed are gals doing the same to men in the form of payback where the wrong men are being payed for things that happeneed to gals 20 or 30 years ago.
" Plus women always like to insult men"
"calling them retard or creep or weird or freak"
Guys also insult gals as well- skank, hoe, slut, cunt, bitch, feminazi, etc. So it seems the 'right' guys are getting their own back for things they are doing currently.
" like going ewww at the appearances"
Guys also rank gals into leagues. If you're going the appearance route I think gals have more woes than males do. So again it seems the 'right' guys are getting their own back for things they are doing currently. - +1 y
@TimeSplitters123
"bossing their husbands around and stropping until they get their own way"
Guys are seemingly often dominate partners bossing around their wives and stropping until they get their own way. So yet again it seems the 'right' guys are getting their own back for things they are doing currently.
"Or taking the mickey out of men with disabilities."
Guys also take the mickey out of gals with disabilities. So once more it seems the 'right' guys are getting their own back for things they are doing currently.
"cringing at strangers for no good reason" This is an assumption. You do not know if they are cringing for no good reason. More likely they are cringing at the possibility this stranger may intrude on her time and space by approaching her. Gals tend to get approached and many may not like having to deal with such.
Do go on as none of what you listed are gals doing the same to men in the form of payback where the wrong men are being payed for past things. - +1 y
lacorine197
You rarely seeing situations where gals are being used for sex doesn't equate to it rarely happening. Going "used for sex" will show a mass of results. Heck there are plenty of comments and questions on this site by gals on this matter.
" it's like freaking 1 out of every hundredth girl/woman experiences this,"
I highly doubt you enough members of the general female population to guess this.
Though I am unsure what gals being used for sex has to do with my post. My post talked about guys using manipulative and deceptive tactics to have sex. There is an industry for such PUA which is psychological tactics such as negging (lowering a gal's self esteem so she seeks your validation), neuro linguistic programming, etc. - +1 y
Hey you I give a fuck load about girls feelings because im not a rude selfish asshole
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truth is we don't use tactics,, you girls just wanna ride our dick plain and simple cause us men give you a choice,,,,,,, also you sound so damaged what happened too you
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@Joeman1252 im a rude asshole cause lets be real most girls really don't care how we feel
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@skeptic007
"truth is we don't use tactics"
That is not the truth as guys use tactics and there is an entire industry built upon using manipulative and deceptive tactics ie PUA.
" you girls just wanna ride our dick plain and simple cause us men give you a choice"
In my opinion when a gal's want is built upon deception it is not sincere and to me an
uninformed choice is not a genuine choice. - +1 y
@skeptic007
" also you sound so damaged what happened too you"
Do tell what exactly in my post makes me sound 'so damaged' to you?
Is it me finding most guys don't give a damn about gals feelings? Unless you also considered yourself so damaged then you're being hypocritical as you just stated gals don't give a damn about guys feelings.
Is it me finding guys use manipulative and deceptive tactics to have sex rather than seek mutual attraction and desire/consent? If so are you going to deny the existence of the PUA industry and dating game sites, blogs, books, videos, etc?
Is it me finding guys tendency to treat gals like sex objects or eye candy? If so are you truly going to deny that gals are treated as such when the media seemingly is ingrained in it?
Is it me finding guys don't listen to gals instead they talk over them? If so are you going to deny an experience that is seemingly so common for gals that it is given a name ie 'mansplaining'? - +1 y
It's nothing against you but I've seen it since I was in school, the girl lets herself be manipulated cause she is so attracted to the guy that logic goes out the window. The same thing happens too guys, what you want is the guy that is getting hit on by multiple women too like but he doesn't have too its not his job too make you happy or like you he has the pick of the liter.
He will look through the pictures that girls send him and see which one is the most attractive and pick her to talk to that's how it goes, I know about the PUA system but there not abusing women, cause these women are agreeing to sleep with these guys.
women want to be fucked like sluts that's a fact and guess what there gonna find someone who will do it, follow me read some of my opinions im extremely honest - +1 y
of course women are treated like objects so are men
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look everything that happens too women happens too men - +1 y
@skeptic007
Now you're contradicting yourself. First it was guys don't use tactics and now it is gals let themselves be manipulated.
"The same thing happens too guys, what you want is the guy that is getting hit on by multiple women too like but he doesn't have too its not his job too make you happy or like you he has the pick of the liter. "
You are assuming and projecting quite a bit. My post was about guys using manipulative and deceptive tactics. My post was not about attractive desirable guys who do not want to commit. It seems you are going off on a tangent to rant about your own agenda.
"I know about the PUA system but there not abusing women, cause these women are agreeing to sleep with these guys."
Nowhere did I state the gals are being abused. I stated they are being manipulated and deceived. Agreeing to sleep with a guy does not necessarily equate to not being manipulated and deceived. It is why they are agreeing that determines whether it was manipulation and deception. - +1 y
@skeptic007
If you honestly knew about the PUA system then you'd know about tactics like negging (designed to lower a gal's self-esteem so she seeks the male's approval and validation) and psychological tactics like neuro linguistic programming.
"of course women are treated like objects so are men"
Men being treating like objects has nothing to do with my post. Exactly what was your intention in bringing it? I didn't claim they weren't so it's not as if you are disproving me on anything.
"look everything that happens too women happens too men"
No it does not. There is a seeming commonplace norm to use a derogatory insult like bitch interchangeably for the general female population and I have yet to see the same for males. There are studies showing that people tend to treat males and females differently regarding males as more capable, smarter, etc based solely on gender. - +1 y
@skeptic007
You made a claim which you later contradicted. Claiming that guys do not use tactics then saying gals let themselves be manipulated.
You say I sound so damaged then ignored answering what makes me sound that way in your opinion.
You now go off on a tangent claiming if it happens to gals then it happens to males.
It seems as if you are just upset that my post seemingly revealed some negative male behavior so as a defense mechanism you are dismissing it with 'gals do it too'.
If that is your intention then do tell me how gals treat guys like sex objects by catcalling and approaching guys. Do tell me how there is an entire industry like PUA based on manipulation and deception for gals to gain sex from males. If you can not then it seems your claim is quite invalid. - +1 y
of course women want to be manipulated it makes them feel like a women when there being controlled
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don't tell me I'm contradicting myself, I can see what you wrote, what happens is since you don't have an answer, you attack what I say instead of giving an answer back, cause you don't have an answer cause im right, if i say women and men are sluts is cause they are and I can prove it easy its not hard to do. you need to start admitting stuff too yourself - +1 y
@skeptic007
"don't tell me I'm contradicting myself,"
You are contradicting yourself. You claimed guys don't use tactics and now you claim gals want to be manipulated. That means that guys are using manipulative tactics which gals fall for.
"of course women want to be manipulated it makes them feel like a women when there being controlled"
That's your opinion unless you have credible reputable data from respected researchers.
"I can see what you wrote"
Yet you did not respond to it.
"what happens is since you don't have an answer, you attack what I say instead of giving an answer back"
An answer to what question? You didn't ask me a question so how am I attacking instead of giving an answer to a question? You're the only one dodging questions.
I didn't attack what you said. I did point out the flaws in your claims. That's called using reasoning skills not attacking - +1 y
@skeptic007
"cause you don't have an answer cause im right,"
An answer to what? You didn't ask a question. You're not right about what you've said thus far. You contradicted your initial claim that guys don't use tactics. You provided no evidence for you other claims. Exactly what do you think you're right about?
"if i say women and men are sluts is cause they are and I can prove it easy its not hard to do"
You can say that if you want however that has nothing to do with my post or the discussion. I don't think you comprehended what I typed. Guys and gals being sluts has no bearing on my post.
" you need to start admitting stuff too yourself"
Exactly what is it that you think I need to admit. Why do you think I would admit anything when you haven't proven anything? - +1 y
@skeptic007
Do explain how guys and gals being sluts has anything to do with me stating I find:
most guys don't give a damn about gals feelings
(if your 'logic' is that sluts don't have feelings... whoa dude no)
most guys use manipulative and deceptive tactics to have sex
(if your 'logic' is that sluts can't be manipulated... being promiscuous does not equate to being incapable of falling prey to deception)
most guys treat gals like sexual objects/eye candy ala catcalling and approaches
(if your 'logic' is that gals treat guys like sexual objects/eye candy... that disproves nothing as it still remains guys engage in this behavior)
most guys rather than listen to gals feelings will talk over gals.
(I'm trying but I really can't see how you can twist your 'logic' to apply to this) - +1 y
@skeptic007
"ok so how are we manipulators when they want to be manipulated,"
Because it's your opinion that gals want to be manipulated. The only certainty is that they are being manipulated meaning that your claim is false that guys do not use tactics.
"you wanna see my credible data"
I said I wanted to credible reputable data from respected researchers that state your claim that gals want to be manipulated. Porn sites are not credible data. How in the world do you think porn sites where the majority are paid pornstars? Porn is not a case of gals wanting to be manipulated. Porn is a case of pornstars doing their job.
"people are sluts and trust me girl you think you're different but you're not"
Again what does sluts have anything to do with my post? I don't think you read what I typed. - +1 y
@skeptic007
I'm done with this considering:
You contradicted your first claim. You stated guys don't use tactics then later said gals want to be manipulated.
You provided no credible support for your other claims. No support that gals want to be manipulated.
You went off on tangents like people are sluts and attractive guys are less likely to commit. Notions that have nothing to do with my post.
You give porn as your proof that I didn't ask for on the tangents I have no interest in.
You ignored my questions. - +1 y
@udolipixie I agree with you on all points
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"In those cases I find most guys rather than listen to gals feelings will talk over gals."- that hit me hard just now! @udolipixie
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bro25
It is my post so I can go on and on as I want. If you do not like it then don't read it. Unsure why you are telling me there will always be arguments. I imagine my exchange with skeptic007 would suggest I am aware of that. - +1 y
#Kester135
I'm not a tumblr user. I'm guessing you're butthurt. I suggest you deal with that off my post - +1 y
@Kester135
I'm not a tumblr user. I'm guessing you're butthurt. I suggest you deal with that off my post
Asker+1 yThing is, I've always gotten abusively rejected for doing the exact opposite- for adamantly refusing to do all of the things you claim that most guys do, in spite of the fact that those methods are always well received by women and that these unfeeling, uncaring men are always successful with the ladies, and doing the exact opposite. And because I do, they immediately assume that I'm some sort of insidious Hannibal-Lecter style rape-murderer- Aggh, you're too NICE, it's so fucking WEIRD, get away from me you evil screwed-up perv/creep/psycho/virgin! Yadda yadda yadda. I've heard it from so many women that none of it even affects me any more. All my life, I've been seeking mutual attraction and desire/consent. But I've never got it because I'm "too nice", and because I "care too much"; I'm "not forceful enough", and thus, "not manly enough". For doing little things, like asking girls if they're alright with me talking and listening to them, instead of just barging in to talk over them.
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"for adamantly refusing to do all of the things you claim that most guys do"
I highly doubt that as it seems quite likely to me that you use emotional manipulation ala guilt trips- you should have sex with me because I'm nice and not like other guys.
" in spite of the fact that those methods are always well received by women and that these unfeeling, uncaring men are always successful with the ladies, and doing the exact opposite"
It's not a fact that those methods are always well received by women. You do not know all women to make a claim that it always work.
It's not a fact that unfeeling, uncaring guys are always successful with women. You do not know all of such guys to make a claim that they are always successful.
". For doing little things, like asking girls if they're alright with me talking and listening to them, instead of just barging in to talk over them."
For doing those things to certain gals you chose. I find it suited to reevaluate why you chose those gals.
Asker+1 y'I highly doubt that as it seems quite likely to me that you use emotional manipulation ala guilt trips- you should have sex with me because I'm nice and not like other guys.'- Right. Because, I'm a guy, and we're all the same. What a hypocrite...
'It's not a fact that those methods are always well received by women. You do not know all women to make a claim that it always work. It's not a fact that unfeeling, uncaring guys are always successful with women. You do not know all of such guys to make a claim that they are always successful.'- I've observed that these are by far the most effective methods, and most well-received methods, for the sample group of 10000's of people I've ever shared the company of at dating events. Thus far, I've never seen one occasion when the sexual object approach hasn't been better received than the human approach. Scientists don't know about gravity conditions in every corner of the universe- how can you make the claim that gravity is a universal law?
Asker+1 y(cont.)'For doing those things to certain gals you chose. I find it suited to reevaluate why you chose those gals.' Actually, in the vast majority of cases, it was purely because I wanted to engage in friendly conversation, like human beings are supposed to do. And for those 'gals' I chose to TRY and pursue in the HOPE that they MIGHT be POTENTIAL romantic interests, the main reason why I chose them was because they gave off the impression that they were nice, genuine, decent human beings. There's nothing in a girl which arouses my passions more than compassion; and IMHO, it's character which defines how attractive an individual actually is, not their appearance or mannerisms. Which isn't to say that I don't find those girls who are outwardly more attractive sexier, because I admit that I do. But I wasn't aware that was a thought crime for males- is it also a thought crime for females to find more attractive males sexier?
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" Right. Because, I'm a guy, and we're all the same. What a hypocrite..."
No I state that because of your claims that not being manipulative/deceptive is failure and your extremist claims that manipulation and deceptive methods are always well received by women and that unfeeling, uncaring guys are always successful with women. Such claims I find are common with guys with nice guy mindset and entitlement.
I spoke about you... not all guys... my statement was about you. It is telling that instead of addressing it you dismiss it as oh she's just talking about guys.
" I've observed that these are by far the most effective methods, and most well-received methods, for the sample group of 10000's of people I've ever shared the company of at dating events. "
Your observations doesn't make them facts. It makes them your opinion and your experiences. - +1 y
""Scientists don't know about gravity conditions in every corner of the universe- how can you make the claim that gravity is a universal law?"
This analogy is quite a fail:
1. I didn't make the claim that gravity is a universal law
2. There are doubts that gravity is a universal law considering the unexplored masses of space
3. Are you really going to compare you making extremist claims that something always happens based on your singular observations vs science... I mean really dude.
I find it so amazing how far guys seemingly will delude themselves into this jerks/a-holes/manipulation/deception is the way to go rather than admit that they actually want to be a-holes and are just trying to give themselves an excuse to do so. - +1 y
" Actually, in the vast majority of cases, it was purely because I wanted to engage in friendly conversation, like human beings are supposed to do."
Egh no you do not get to dictate what human beings are supposed to do.
Where did you get that engaging in friendly conversation is what human beings are supposed to do? Some people may not want to engage in friendly conversation, some people do not like conversing in public, some people are anti-social, some people are introverts.
Again you are showing your nice guy entitlement to me. Even working on your people are supposed to engage in friendly conversation notion... you are overlooking that people get to determine what they want to converse about and who they want to converse with.
The gals did not want a friendly conversation with you. You are the common denominator here so it seems the issue isn't that engaging in a friendly conversation is unwanted but that you are unwanted - +1 y
"And for those 'gals' I chose to TRY and pursue in the HOPE that they MIGHT be POTENTIAL romantic interests, the main reason why I chose them was because they gave off the impression that they were nice, genuine, decent human beings."
Considering this seeming trite I'm going to guess that none to very very few of the gals you pursued were unattractive to you. Do tell how did the gals give off the impression you described? How long were you watching them to gather this impression? What actions did they do to give you this impression?
"There's nothing in a girl which arouses my passions more than compassion; and IMHO, it's character which defines how attractive an individual actually is, not their appearance or mannerisms."
Yet I'm going to guess that you still seek a baseline of physical appearance attractiveness. - +1 y
"But I wasn't aware that was a thought crime for males- is it also a thought crime for females to find more attractive males sexier?"
I'm unsure why you are asking me this question as I wasn't aware that I stated stated guys finding attractive gals sexier was a thought crime much less mentioned thought crimes at all. This is quite a non sequitur to me.
I'm guessing this is defensiveness to as a preemptive strike to how the gals you pursued were physically attractive to you. That regardless of your claims of personality you likely only considered personality after looks.
Perhaps you feel I will fault you for approaching attractive gals so you seek to turn it around to hey if it's bad for guys then gals do it too. As I find anytime a guy thinks his behavior is being criticized rather than address the criticism he shifts blame.
I'm not going to fault you as I find approaching based on attraction natural. In my view guys can approach based on attraction and gals can reject based on it.
Asker+1 y"No I state that because of your claims that not being manipulative/deceptive is failure and your extremist claims that manipulation and deceptive methods are always well received by women and that unfeeling, uncaring guys are always successful with women. Such claims I find are common with guys with nice guy mindset and entitlement. I spoke about you... not all guys... my statement was about you. It is telling that instead of addressing it you dismiss it as oh she's just talking about guys." What is your problem? I KNOW I'M NOT ENTITLED TO SHIT FROM YOU, OR FROM ANY WOMAN.
Asker+1 yfucking stupid caps lock, and just spontaneously submitted it halfway through
Asker+1 yI know I'm not entitled to shit from you or any woman. You don;t have to justify anything you say or do, because YOU'RE A WOMAN- and in your eyes, that gives you free rein to spout whatever vile and hurtful bullshit you like. You DON'T GIVE A FUCK- fine. Piss off then. "Your observations doesn't make them facts. It makes them your opinion and your experiences." YES, they do. So, are my experiences, my observations, and my opinions based on the sum total of every experience in my goddamned life, worthless in your eyes? Of course they are.
Asker+1 y"Egh no you do not get to dictate what human beings are supposed to do. Where did you get that engaging in friendly conversation is what human beings are supposed to do? Some people may not want to engage in friendly conversation, some people do not like conversing in public, some people are anti-social, some people are introverts."
And you think that I'm not naturally an introvert? I have Aspergers Syndrome, combined with stress-related epilepsy to boot. Socialising with groups in a bustling and congested, dog-eat-dog environment is the single hardest, most stressful thing for me to do. But I HAVE TO, because being part of society isn't about what YOU want, or what YOU'RE comfortable with.
Asker+1 y"Again you are showing your nice guy entitlement to me. Even working on your people are supposed to engage in friendly conversation notion... You are overlooking that people get to determine what they want to converse about and who they want to converse with. The gals did not want a friendly conversation with you. You are the common denominator here so it seems the issue isn't that engaging in a friendly conversation is unwanted but that you are unwanted"- Stunning deduction skills, Sherlock. Translation- 'Fuck off, no-one wants you, every woman in the world is entitled to treat you like shit for lolz, and you're not entitled to a scrap of human dignity, because you're not a human, you're a worthless 'nice-guy' carpet to wipe the turds off my high-heels with. Now, run along home, you entitled pussy, we real women want REAL MEN.' Your words drip with visceral hatred and gender supremacism, blatantly born of an inferiority complex. I'd never approach you- your inner self is ugly...
Asker+1 y"This analogy is quite a fail:
1. I didn't make the claim that gravity is a universal law
2. There are doubts that gravity is a universal law considering the unexplored masses of space
3. Are you really going to compare you making extremist claims that something always happens based on your singular observations vs science... I mean really dude.
I find it so amazing how far guys seemingly will delude themselves into this jerks/a-holes/manipulation/deception is the way to go rather than admit that they actually want to be a-holes and are just trying to give themselves an excuse to do so."
Your statements before that were quite a fail:
1. I didn't make the claim that any of the TRENDS I pointed out were universal laws
2. The same doubts apply to all alleged 'laws', since they're based on drawing conclusions from extrapolated data collected in surveys and tests
3. I really am going to compare my observations and research, conducted in a scientific manner, to science. What else is it?
Asker+1 y"I find it so amazing how far guys seemingly will delude themselves into this jerks/a-holes/manipulation/deception is the way to go rather than admit that they actually want to be a-holes and are just trying to give themselves an excuse to do so." I find it so amazing how you find it SOO HARD to even conceive of the notion that there can possibly be one guy in all of existence who isn't an asshole, manipulative, deceptive or self-deluded. I mean, what's with that statement? Are you for real? Are you sane? What happened to you- what kind of catastrophic trauma could we men have possibly inflicted upon you personally to merit that kind of extremist response?
Asker+1 y"Considering this seeming trite I'm going to guess that none to very very few of the gals you pursued were unattractive to you. Do tell how did the gals give off the impression you described? How long were you watching them to gather this impression? What actions did they do to give you this impression?" Oh, little things. Like being cordial, polite, well-mannered, cheerful, open, non-confrontational in their posture and mannerisms- the exact opposite of what you're being.
"Yet I'm going to guess that you still seek a baseline of physical appearance attractiveness." When I'm just looking for friendships? Hell no. When I'm looking for romance? Hell yes. I'm not going to lie, manipulate and con a woman, telling her that I think she's sexy when I don't find her the least bit sexually attractive. That'd be like going out of my way to chat up a gay man, or a child- what kind of a sadist and sicko would get off on shit like that?
Asker+1 y"I'm unsure why you are asking me this question as I wasn't aware that I stated stated guys finding attractive gals sexier was a thought crime much less mentioned thought crimes at all. This is quite a non sequitur to me. I'm guessing this is defensiveness to as a preemptive strike to how the gals you pursued were physically attractive to you. That regardless of your claims of personality you likely only considered personality after looks."
But- that's exactly what you did just do, in the reply comment you posted immediately prior to this. This is exactly what you yourself overtly, explicitly accused me of. As such, I'd say that this proves that I'm quite capable of judging your character, gauging your thought processes from the tone of your posts, and of successfully preempting your strikes effectively. Given the number of personal attack you've made against me, I'd say I was perfectly entitled to use self-defense- far more so than you're entitled to make libelous accusations.
Asker+1 y"Perhaps you feel I will fault you for approaching attractive gals so you seek to turn it around to hey if it's bad for guys then gals do it too. As I find anytime a guy thinks his behavior is being criticized rather than address the criticism he shifts blame."
I'd much rather that you hadn't gone out of your way to play the blame-game in the first place, as you've done throughout. As I find, anytime a gal thinks her behavior is being criticized, rather than address the criticism, she places blame. And I didn't have any blame to shift until you decided to palm it off solely on top of my head. So, will you take responsibility as the instigator? Or get emotional?
"I'm not going to fault you as I find approaching based on attraction natural. In my view guys can approach based on attraction and gals can reject based on it." Thank you. We can, and you can- no argument there. But why is it that all displays of male emotion, even affection, are deemed to be unattractive and reject-worthy?- +1 y
" What is your problem? I KNOW I'M NOT ENTITLED TO SHIT FROM YOU, OR FROM ANY WOMAN."
I stated my issue. Your extremist claims you touted as facts. You dismissing me calling out your bs by saying oh it's just because you're male that I'm saying that rather than because you said extremist things claiming them to be facts.
"because YOU'RE A WOMAN- and in your eyes, that gives you free rein to spout whatever vile and hurtful bullshit you like."
Me pointing out your claims are your opinions not facts isn't vile and hurtful bullshit. It cetainly has nothing to do with me thinking being female allows me to say whatever to hurt others. It has to do with you spouting bullshit and claiming they are facts.
"YES, they do. "
No they do not. Your opinions are not facts. If someone had the observations that many guys committed rape it would be there opinion not a fact to claim that guys always rape. - +1 y
"So, are my experiences, my observations, and my opinions based on the sum total of every experience in my goddamned life, worthless in your eyes?"
You are quite emotional. Me stating your opinions aren't facts does not equate to 'worthless'. I am unsure why guys seeming react in extremes.
"And you think that I'm not naturally an introvert?"
What you are is irrelevant.
" But I HAVE TO, because being part of society isn't about what YOU want, or what YOU'RE comfortable with."
There is a difference between general socializing (which there is often no escape from) and being pursued romantically/sexually. It is telling how you continue to compare quite different matters.
Being part of society doesn't require gals to endure guys who want to engage friendly conversation because they see them as a romantic/sexual potential. - +1 y
Actually society does seem to be about what others want and are comfortable with in regards to sexual/romantic interaction. Unwanted uncomfortable sexual/romantic interaction may be called harassment/sexual harassment.
" Translation- 'Fuck off, no-one wants you, every woman in the world is entitled to treat you like shit for lolz, and you're not entitled to a scrap of human dignity, because you're not a human, you're a worthless 'nice-guy' carpet to wipe the turds off my high-heels with. Now, run along home, you entitled pussy, we real women want REAL MEN.' "
That's your translation.
Nowhere did I state anything about how gals are enetitled to treat you, what you're entitled to, or judge your value.
I did state that your view that people are supposed to engage in friendly conversations overlooks mutual desirability and the gals did not want to engage in conversation with you. - +1 y
Your statements before that were quite a fail:
"No they weren't"
1. I didn't make the claim that any of the TRENDS I pointed out were universal laws
You didn't state they were trends. You called it a fact that always happens.
"the fact that those methods are always well received by women and that these unfeeling, uncaring men are always successful with the ladies, and doing the exact opposite. "
2. The same doubts apply to all alleged 'laws', since they're based on drawing conclusions from extrapolated data collected in surveys and tests
Your point being. This isn't something I dispute in fact I brought this up.
3. I really am going to compare my observations and research, conducted in a scientific manner, to science. What else is it?
Your observations and research were highly unlikely conducted in a scientific manner as it was done through your perception. A perception that seems prone to assumptions, projection, emotional outburst, and exaggeration. Just look at your translation - +1 y
"I find it so amazing how you find it SOO HARD to even conceive of the notion that there can possibly be one guy in all of existence who isn't an asshole, manipulative, deceptive or self-deluded."
Show me where I stated there can't possibly be one guy who isn't an asshole, manipulative, deceptive, or self-deluded. Me stating you are self-deluded and not buying into the perception you have off yourself doesn't equate to me negating the possibility of such guys exist.
I know such guys exist as I have many gal guy pals that aren't assholes, manipulative, deceptive, or self-deluded.
"I mean, what's with that statement?"
Yes what is with that statement you falsely attribute to me?
"Are you for real?"
Are you for real by attributing me with something I did not state? - +1 y
"Are you sane? What happened to you- what kind of catastrophic trauma could we men have possibly inflicted upon you personally to merit that kind of extremist response?"
Are you sane? What happened to you- what kind of victim complex could you possibly have to pull such bs and attribute to me where nowhere in this discussion did I make such a statement.
Me stating there are guys that delude themselves that being a jerk is the way to go with bs excuses doesn't equate to me stating there isn't a possibility there is a guy that isn't a asshole, manipulative, deceptive, or self-deluded. It seems you twist and project quite a lot into what is stated getting something completely different than what is stated that I really wonder how your 'observations' are really. - +1 y
"But- that's exactly what you did just do, in the reply comment you posted immediately prior to this."
That's not exactly what I did. The comment I posted immediately to this was: "Yet I'm going to guess that you still seek a baseline of physical appearance attractiveness."
That comment is not stating it is a thought crime for guys to find attractive gals attractive. That comment is stating despite all your claims about it being about personality that you seek a baseline of physical looks.
That comment isn't making it a thought crime to do so. That comment isn't faulting you for doing so. Again it seems you have some sort of victim complex and twist words to suit this stance you have. - +1 y
"Oh, little things. Like being cordial, polite, well-mannered, cheerful, open, non-confrontational in their posture and mannerisms- the exact opposite of what you're being. "
In my opinion I have been quite well-mannered and polite. Me pointing out your claims are extremist and are your opinions doesn't equate to being noncordial, impolite, ill-mannered, uncheerful, closed, or nonconfrontational. I'm not the one openly insulting another unlike you. - +1 y
"When I'm just looking for friendships? Hell no. When I'm looking for romance? Hell yes. I'm not going to lie, manipulate and con a woman, telling her that I think she's sexy when I don't find her the least bit sexually attractive. That'd be like going out of my way to chat up a gay man, or a child- what kind of a sadist and sicko would get off on shit like that?"
And yet again you seemingly show your defensiveness. Are you aware that someone stating you do something doesn't necessarily equate to an attack on you (unless you perceive that action as 'bad')? It seems you have some issues with you seeking attractiveness thus me stating you do puts you on the defensiveness due to your own issues. - +1 y
"Given the number of personal attack you've made against me"
I haven't made a single personal attack. You however have projected personal attacks such as:
- I state your opinions aren't facts... and you get I'm saying your experiences are worthless
- I state the gals didn't want to engage in friendly conversations with you... and you get I'm saying gals are entitled to treat you like shit and that you're not a human and worth nothing... o. O
You appear to have quite a victim complex to twist and project to get what you do. - +1 y
"I'd say I was perfectly entitled to use self-defense- far more so than you're entitled to make libelous accusations."
I haven't made any libelous accusations. I did make guessed which you proved I was correct.
I guessed you had a baseline of attraction despite your claims going on about personality. You admitted you did.
I guessed you had nice guy entitlement and you showed you did by seemingly faulting gals for not conversing with you by claiming humans are supposed to engage in friendly conversations which overlooks that both parties must want to no.
Do tell what are these libel accusations I made that you just had to defend yourself against? - +1 y
"I'd much rather that you hadn't gone out of your way to play the blame-game in the first place, as you've done throughout."
So you'd rather I didn't hold you accountable for your mindset and your behavior? Alrighty then.
"As I find, anytime a gal thinks her behavior is being criticized, rather than address the criticism, she places blame."
Interesting find but quite irrelevant here as when you criticized me for supposedly 'insulting' you I didn't blame you instead I addressed the criticism. I pointed out my statements and then I pointed out the insult you drew from them and showed how far off you are. Such as I stated your opinions aren't facts and you got that I'm saying your experiences are worthless. - +1 y
"So, will you take responsibility as the instigator? Or get emotional?"
No as I'm not the instigator. No I won't get emotional. The instigator appears to be you. You seemingly take statements and twist them to be some sort of personal attack.
If I state your opinions aren't facts... you get I'm saying your observations are worthless.
If I state you approach gals you find attractive... you get I'm saying you're doing something 'bad' so you have to defend yourself with 'gals do it too'. - +1 y
" But why is it that all displays of male emotion, even affection, are deemed to be unattractive and reject-worthy?"
Again you make an extremist claim touting it to be a truth/fact. It's not. It's your opinion.
To answer your question I find displays of male emotion, even affection, are deemed to be unattractive and reject-worthy when coming from a guy the gals do not want. I'm guessing this is a common denominator going by your talk of rejection and prior stories. Again like with gals engaging in friendly conversation the common denominator is you. The issue likely isn't that all displays of male emotion are deemed unattractive and reject-worthy but that your displays are deemed such. - +1 y
And with that I bid you a laters as you have twisted my statements into personal attacks ('your opinions aren't facts /= 'your experiences are worthless). You continuously make extremist claims touting them as a fact or truth (manipulation/deception always works on women, uncaring guys always are successful with women, all male emotions are unattractive and reject-worthy).
In my opinion I've done enough addressing your erroneous claims and your skewed projections of my statements. You can keep your seeming victim complex I imagine viewing yourself as thus and seemingly deluding yourself that your 'failures' stem from this nice guy/jerk theory rather than it is because you are unattractive/unappealing to the gals you seek.
You can keep posting I won't be reading. Have fun I tend to find guys enjoy getting the last word.
Asker+1 yWell, I wouldn't want to disappoint, would I? In this feminazi's opinion, she's done enough to depict me as the evil misogynistic manipulative entitled prick she wants to depict all men as. Let her spout her rhetoric, preach and preach as loud as she wants. This 'woman' (no offence to any actual women who may be reading this) is exactly the kind of sadistic supremacist sociopath I know all too well. And I am not your doormat- I am not going to lie down and let you trample all over me, defame me and say whatever extremist bullshit you feel like spouting out. I, and virtually everyone else on this thread, is better than you have ever been, and better than you will ever be. Now, since this is MY THREAD, I suggest that YOU take your keyboard Tourette's someplace else, and stop clogging it up and souring its tone with your BS. LMFAO. LOL.
+1 yI will try not to generalize too much, because I know each of you little snowflakes out there are individual and unique. BUT... that being said, men have a filter. Women do not. We just let it all out. Guys are a little more, um, 'refined'. They hold back some things.
For the most part, that's a good thing. We could stand to take a few clues from y'all on that one. And I agree with you that society should really relax it's standards with guys on showing emotion. Absolutely.
But is it really all the woman's fault, or is it more an issue of bullying? I think a$$holes in general (of both genders) are more to blame than women are. Do men feel emasculated because they are taunted by their peers for showing emotion in the locker room, or on the soccer/football/baseball field or basketball court? Or in the military out in basic training? Or with their buddies on a road trip? Yes. Hell, yes.
That's guys doing that to each other!!! Not just a girl thing. Yes, some women expect their men to be tough all the time. And that is total B. S. Ladies, I am calling you out on that: if you're like that, stop. Stop it now. Bottling things up is unhealthy. And you guys that are coaches, youth leaders, higher ranking members of any organization; you should stop it, too. Just put your foot down and be the one to say, "it's okay, man". That's all we have to do.20 Reply
+1 yThe reason why men are told to restrict emotions (and this is what it was originally, never where they forced to pretend they did not have them, merely have control over them) was because emotions get you killed, historicly speaking. Lashing out or speaking out in anger historicly would result in a duel to the death, not being able to handle stress or getting into such a melancholic state that they did not wish to get out of bed would result in starvation/accidents from not being focused. That was really what it was all about being able to push everything aside and focus on the task at hand in order to ensure not just their survival but the survival of their families.(a man could not succumb to fear while in the midst of protecting his family for instance) It was the womans job to nurture the man in order to relieve him of this emotional burden once the deed was done (so to speak). Unfortunatley what has happened is women are no longer the emotional outlet, the nurturers they once where since society has descided that this much needed task was "oppressive" to women. The end result is that men push aside emotions but have no means to cope with them, eventually having them spill over in ways that are not traditionally masculine. Inevitable really. This results in a back lash from both men and women, but I think more so from women because they are still wired to be attracted to that more traditional male while other males being in the same situation are a bit more understanding of the issue. Women never had to push aside emotinos and there fore have many emotional outlets (like their friends) so to them they do not really understand what the issue is simply presuming you to deal with it as they do (or in some cases simply excpecting you not to have emotions to deal with at all). So the issue is both parties are wired to act differently when dealing with emotions and expecting the other person to act as they do.
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@Viperkiss Thank you.
+1 yI'm not sure the assumption there is true: the female comments here so far certainly suggest otherwise!
I don't think the urge to hide our feelings helps, though.
Back at school, Becky (a girl I'd fancied, but thought way out of my league) asked me out (and I said yes, of course). The next time I saw her, two days later, her best friend was complaining about being "desperate for a new man" - and Becky replied "me too".
I cried, of course: it was horrible - but not until I'd got back to my room, so all she'd see was me walking away.
A week later, people still thought we were 'an item' - only her friend had seen that exchange. So, I told a friend that it had ended (and, to my shame, didn't word it at all well).
That afternoon, I was told off by another girl for being so cruel: how could I have dumped her like that, she was really upset?
(I never did find out for sure. Was she really telling the truth, and I'd somehow misunderstood - or had Becky really asked me out just for the "fun" of dumping me two days later, then pretended to be upset by me to twist the knife? I never quite believed either option: apart from this, she seemed like one of the nicest girls I've ever known - but how could "I'm desperate to find somebody else" possibly be misunderstood?)
Either way, just being more open about my own feelings would have avoided at least half of that mess! (The tiny silver lining to this cloud is that it was another 14 years before I got dumped again...)11 Reply- +1 y
The sad bit? For all she hurt me - deliberately or not - deep down, I miss her. I don't hate her for hurting me - I worry about the girl a week later having been right, that somehow I'd upset her. With hindsight, of course I should have asked (we haven't spoken for years now, but she was quite friendly for the rest of our time at school together) - but somehow, I never found the courage and the right time to open up that topic with her.
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+1 yThere are definitely girl's who care about guy's feelings. I know when I am with a guy I care more about his feelings than mine at times. I am very selfless that way. It's kind of a flaw and I think it causes me problems in relationships. But I am trying to work on that.
I just feel like I try to treat people as best as I possibly can, There is no reason to be mean or hurtful towards people.187 Reply
Asker+1 yAre you single? And would you care about the feelings of a man who wanted to be open about his feelings? Or are you more inclined to care about the feelings of men whose feelings you couldn't figure out- either because they're keeping them bottled up inside, or because they genuinely don't have any (which would cause you problems in relationships)?
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No I prefer guys who are more open with their feelings. It makes things less confusing that way.
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He is a lucky man!
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@genuinlysensitive Sorry, I didn't answer your full question there. I am single :( Wish I had a guy, but love life is just not working out for me. I genuinely care about everyone I date, whether we are in a relationship or not. I get attached to people and it's hard to let go. But I'm not super clingy or anything. I wish I found someone who thought they were lucky to have me. So far not yet, but maybe some day (I hope!).
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Dont feel bad, selflessness is a very desired trait for guys who want relationships. Especially for myself!
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@genuinlysensitive :) Any chance you live by me? ;) :P
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I don't know, I live in New Jersey, US, lol.
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+1 yI agree that society should cahnge and let men feel ok if they are emotional. I like men that are emotional and show that they care. Heck, I like people that are that way. I'm sorry this is your experience but there are girls that do care. I just think that it's not the girls that you have the problem with but both genders - people. Personally I think most people doesn't give a shit, that is the sad reality. You'd think all girls care for other girls? No man, it depends on a person and you character.
20 Reply You definitely found the wrong girls if that is your perception of ALL GIRLS! It's either you lean towards girls who have no interest in you or just manage to piss them off! Whatever you are doing to develop this perception needs to be changed (sorry to say it)
140 ReplyI'm sorry for the shitty girls that you have dealt with, but not all girls are like that, I'm DEFINITELY not like that and I'm sure lots of other girls are like me as well... Its definitely not fair for any girl to not think about the guys feelings, coz that is just so freaking selfish ! Another thing, about the emotions , I have no idea why people keep saying " a real man doesn't cry " that's b***s*** , guys, no matter how tough they are or how tough they are supposed to be, they are still human beings, guys also should cry when they feel sad, and no one should tell them that they aren't " men" for it 😒 and always when its not too much... Crying too much isn't nice nor on girls or guys.. But yeah, not all girls are like that
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+1 yGuys are really, reeeally tolerant as people and you act like you don't really care about a lot of things so we just assume whatever we say or do won't affect you as much as it actually does.
Sadistic Psychopaths though? That's a bit strong. Calm self.75 Reply- +1 y
It hurts bad and we just dont show it
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@Joeman1252 I'm proud to say I hate everyone, all people. That makes hating guys that much easier. They are people too
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Oooo looks like we have a bitch here a pessimistic bitch
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More than you know
Asker+1 yI suppose that sociopaths would have been a better word than psychopaths. But what you describe, having complete disregard for how whatever you say and do will affect the other people around you, is the definition of sociopathic behaviour.
Funny, I thought Men were the "cold" ones: the ones Who can feel free to act like jerks, treat women Who express feelings like trash or inferior being.
I feel sorry That society has taught That Men should not express their feelings like women do. However, it has to be acknowledge That having feelings and emotions is part of human nature.
Just remember That if someone really likes you, he or she is going to accept the real you.80 ReplyThat's odd. In my experiences I find women are more empathetic and sensitive than men. Plus they tend to be more open to discuss and share deep thoughts and emotions. Which is why I like hanging out with girls more than guys when I'm feeling down and need someone to talk to.
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Asker+1 yWomen are more empathic and sensitive- about THEIR OWN feelings, thoughts and emotions. And about those of other females. But that's because they're allowed to be- because things like empathy, compassion and sensitivity are deemed to be effeminate, unmanly. And men aren't allowed the freedom of emotion that women are- it's far more taboo for guys to do these things than girls, because of how they're raised from infancy. But it's still less taboo for guys to have a bro-chat between one another about their own deep thoughts and emotions than it is for guys to chat to girls about the same thing.
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I'm well aware of the bro code not to share emotional dialog with other guys. But you don't know what you're talking about. All my close chick friends and girlfriends were totally ok and supportive of me when I needed emotional support. Just as long as a guy isn't a complete weak crybaby, lots of women will care about his feelings
Asker+1 yHow did you form those relationships with your 'close chick friends' and girlfriends in the first place? Did you go to them, or did they come to you? Who asked for whose emotional support first- them, or you?
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I got my chick friends by hanging out in certain social circles and meeting them that way. A few of them I dated but decided we weren't compatible early on. If I tell anyone (girl or guy) about a problem I'm having and they are interested in hearing more about it, I'll tell them but I won't whine and bitch too much because that will put them off. And when I'm feeling down, I find that girls in general are more open to talk about emotionally sensitive stuff, most likely because they aren't restricted by a bro code. But yeah I've been betrayed and hurt by girls who've betrayed or dumped me, and I too have had short term thoughts that all women are evil. Then I realize that one woman does not represent the entire gender.
+1 yBoys and girls are taught from a young age that being feminine is a bad thing so when men show emotion (which is considered to be a feminine thing) both genders get uncomfortable and women can be especially cruel because they are led to believe that their emotions are more valid than those of their male counterparts. It is a very common and underplayed form of sexism that needs to be targeted in order to prevent all forms of gender inequality. I don't know there are women out there who value men's feelings just like there are men who value women's strength though these people may be few and far between.
00 ReplyI think there is a difference in perception in how people (men and women) react and how it perceived by the opposite sex compared to how it actually is. I think both genders do care, it is just show completely different and they misunderstand each other. You should check out my blog post.. I wrote about this issue and how men and women don't see eye-to-eye... and why we don't.
kgranada.wordpress.com/.../ I hope you find it interesting! :-)00 Reply
+1 yYou can't say ALL women are like that. Yeah, ALL the women YOU are going after are like that but not ALL women are like that. The problem is we live in a world where most people have been brainwashed to believe that if a girl doesn't look like Megan Fox or Amber Heard, she is not beautiful and that a guy needs to be bad boy that a girl can change to be good just for her. It's bullshit really. My suggestion to you would be to stop hitting on girls that are your type and maybe change your approach and attitude.
00 ReplyMost of the girls are full of shit so only their feeling matters to them. They just want to do what they want never ask the guy, even when having sex they run away sometimes by saying "i am feeling bad". Sometimes i wonder "Fuck the girls, break up with girlfriend, go to whore house and fuck whoever i want because i can choose anyone but still i can get herpes so then again i have to leave my thoughts for next time and get to my lovely girlfriend." Most of girls are bitches because they think they are smarter and shit but they are not. Females have a small hearts and they are sensitive and they have lovely thoughts for each other's future so i think some girls are great in every way and they should have freedom of emotion.
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+1 yWhat? How can you generalize women like that? Just because there have been women that have hurt you in the past does not at all mean that we are all beasts. Just like when women generalize men... it can go either way. I care a lot, probably more than I should, about every male in my life whether it be a romantic relationship or a family member. I am very nurturing and have been like that my whole life and I always thought that it was annoying because all the guys I like turn out to be assholes that don't give a shit about me and want sex. But I KNOW that not every guy is like that. There are good men and women out there.
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+1 yOr maybe you're hanging out with the wrong selection of women...
As a woman I can say that I care about others feelings more than I care about my own. However, I have met women who are- simply put- assholes. Its a hit or miss no matter who you go after in the dating pool or friendship wise. I think it really depends on their upbringing as well. Or what they've been through. Men can be dicks. Women can be bitches. And sometimes there's no in between whatsoever.
Try surrounding yourself with different people. It sounds like the specific women you encounter are just pathetic.00 Reply
+1 yYeah, I'm not one of those girls that dares to suggest that you being a man makes your feelings girly or unjustified because I'm not a sexist asshole.
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+1 yYou need to leave. Seriously, I'm assuming that you've seen that culture for a while now, and I will tell you out of experience that if you do not appreciate the way you are treated in an area, you will not be happy. You can trick yourself for awhile, but inevitably you will still feel trapped. Women aren't all mean, there are a ton of great ladies out there. A good tree will bear good fruit and a bad tree will bear bad fruit (or none at all). You can assume that where there is a lot of bad fruit, all the others are not likely to be good either. I had seen a lot of what you are talking about, and if you stand up for yourself, instead of being labeled confident, they say you are mean or weird. I got it from both sexes, and it's a completely different story where I am now. I can't tell you how uplifting it feels to be free from that. If you can't move, take day trips on weekends; you meet your best friends in the most strange places.
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The grass is greener on the other side?
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@TheOldMan59 Clearly there's a lot of evaluation to be done before it comes to that. I'm offering an option based on my own experience. What worked for me may not be a solution for everyone, and it certainly would not be under the same circumstances. This person has been feeling this way for a time now. When you feel trapped, knowing you have options and support is empowering.
I know what you mean and i thought the same thing about men, the actual problem is that you have met a lot of shitty woman who obviously represent every woman in your mind, let me tell you this as a woman i only treat boys like "shit" if they really deserve it , like when harrassing me or just simply having a disgusting attitude but if you're a nice guy i have nothing to say and am being nice, if i do have some thing to say or being rude towards then I'm a f*cking bitch and you shouldn't waste your time with me, I'm sorry that you end up thinking that way because you've apparently met a lot of woman but i thought/think the samesame thing of guys :')
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+1 yUmmm, no, not all. Mental health is a serious issue in our culture and I'm seeing a few tendencies in your writing, OP.
Myself, for instance? I deal with codependency. Looking back, every previous romantic interest was one type of problematic pairing with various disorders or another. The worst was the last one where she had Borderline Personality Disorder. It took dealing with her and all the damage that brought to finally break down and examine my own issues.
Now that I recognize it and I'm dealing with it? I'm noticing women who I never really would have considered before. I didn't consider them before because they were invisible to me then. They're healthy for me and it's completely alien to me and my life.
I hope you take what I've said to heart. For all those girls who've been told to "check your friendzone" for a great guy, this might be your mea culpa. Act now and you might get a really cute one, too.00 Reply
+1 yThe girls you speak of are raised to be sociopaths, that's all. Luckily, not every female is like that. You need to make sure that the person you are interacting with has minimal social and emotional intelligence, empathy, and isn't harboring a sexist perspective.
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By "minimal", I mean they at least meet a reasonable threshold so that they can function as trustworthy civilized human beings.
+1 yWow that's really unfair considering you don't even know every single female person in this world? Maybe you should make better decisions about the kinds of girls you hangout with. Not every one is like that. And it does matter who someone is and what they've been through? If a guy cheats on me and is disrespectful to me do you honestly expect me to give a fuck about his feelings anymore?
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Asker+1 yOf course I don't know every single girl in the world. But I don't get to make decisions about the kind of girls I hang out with- I'll approach any girl, every girl, not even romantically, but just to try and find someone to talk with. But when 99.99% of them have been like that, that's comprehensive enough to start viewing it as scientifically proven, at least with regards to myself. If some girl could prove me wrong some day, I'd be the happiest guy in the world to admit I was wrong. But I've had to accept that no girls will give enough of a damn to even entertain having a brief conversation with me in passing, and to stop trying to reach out to them when I know it gets the same results. It's hard, but I can become that cold, emotionless, apathetic rock they want me to be- and when I am, they'll entertain talking with me. But the moment I show any emotion whatsoever, to laugh or smile or frown or wince, those females can't stand being around me any more, and they're gone.
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Women are unfair and life is unfair, and what has this got to do with cheating on someone. Your just assuming that a girl always has a good reason to mistreat men. 99.99% of the time they don. t. Sounds like your a bit bitter
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@TimeSplitters123 I was giving and example as to why I would not give a damn about a guys feelings. There are plenty of reasons to not care about someone but there are also plenty of reasons to care about someone
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yi do give a damn!!! i really do.. i love when guys show feelings and not acting like they have no feelings for nothing
yea, i little bit agree with you.. there are bitches that only wanna play with guys, and humiliate them and reject them but you can't talk about all woman like that
also girls can talk 'men are the same' right? there are assholes who only want woman to fuck her and use her.. but also there are really great guys..
it's fact and because you experienced maybe rejaction or meet bitches there're not all of tham like that!!!00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yIf it makes you feel any better there is people out there who do care, and they care a whole heck of a lot. I for one care about people's feelings, especially guy's... even if I have never met the person in my life! I personally hate that social expectation that guys have to be rock-solid. Its so incredibly stupid. Yeah that may have been how it was back in the 50' but if people havn't noticed by now, we're not living in the 50'! I'm really sorry that the women in your life have treated you in a way that makes you believe this. Its horrible and I really wish I could help but I have no way to shut those ladies up.
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+1 yIf it makes you feel any better... I generally don't care about anyone's feelings, guys or girls.
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That's so cute?
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that is actually worse.
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that makes 3 of us op!
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LOL this made my night
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Nice, a sociopath.
Ill tell you why its because were men! We are expected to be the "backbone" of the relationship look its a MF cold world out there and for any man to survive you have to have "thick skin". By nature Women are caregivers they are emotional all the time men are providers we dont have time to get emotional were usually too busy trying to work to provide the next meal this is the reason women respond to what seems to be unemotional men because emotional men are less dependable women are already emotional they dont want an emotional man to sit next to them and worry they want someone to look them in the eyes and say "dont worry i got this well be fine!"
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+1 yYour description of what you think a woman wants out of a man sounds terrifying. I don't think I'm that unusual, and I definitely think both women AND men should be able to show their feelings in a non-abusive way. It sounds like you've had some really bad experiences with women. That's not nearly all women though. Some women could say they've had the same problem with men. But they wouldn't have experienced all men either.
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And by the way, I give a damn about everyone's feelings, including men. Actually, to a very unhealthy level for myself. And I am a woman.
+1 yWoah woah woah. Saying that every woman is a sadistic demon and don't give a shit about men's feelings is a bit harsh. Of course there are going to be some women like this, but I've heard and seen others be treated like this by men as well! It's not fair to just generalise like that.
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Asker+1 yWell, to be fair, if I could edit the original question, I'd temper the language in places and take away the absolutism. But that was how I'd been made to feel, and it's still how I feel now, at least with regards to every woman I've ever managed to interact with long enough to build an impression of them. I know it's not fair to just generalise like that- that's why I still bother to consider their feelings, why I still try to presume that they're worth caring about. Even though I've never had even the slightest bit of empathy or compassion reciprocated by any woman, I refuse to stop showing empathy and compassion to women. But I'm practically 29yrs old- 100% of the women I've ever tried to introduce myself to, over 1000 in total, have all either been like this, or have deliberately gone out of their way to treat me in this manner. When do I give up, admit that it's futile, and start acting like all of the guys who get the girls, because they genuinely don't give a shit about them?
+1 yOkay I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with you. Maybe the girls you know are kinda not mature? Only cuz u probs had a bad past with certain girls you can't assume most girls are like that.
I actually don't mind if a guy reveals their feelings, they're humans too.02 Reply
Asker+1 yActually, I've found that the only exceptions to the rule are girls who happen to be younger, and less mature- every single girl older than 21 who I've ever approached has been like this, and every girl except for one exception above the age of 19. Is it because they've lost all faith in men that they're like this? Is it because they're afraid of being hurt again, so they go out of their way to attack every guy who tries to approach them first so that they won't get hurt again?
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Well the girls over 18 probs have had a bad experience with certain guys, but I still don't get why they see guys that express their emotions as weak 😐. It's to do with what's up their heads I think.
Don't give a Damn mate seriously. Do what you want. Confidence is the key 💚💚💚
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yWell I do care about every guy's feeling even if they don't deserve to be treated well. Because at the end of the end of the day, they can say that I'm a really good-hearted person who cares. Well I kind of understand where you're coming from but at the same time, know that there are nice women out there who actually do care. And the ones that aren't like that, they probably have some type of problem in past relationships and I would try to look at it from that perspective. And then again, some women like to be like that because they think its cute or whatever. Or they just surround themselves in the wrong crowd.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yi dont think i treat guys like that but there are girls who do witch im sorry u have to deal with those girls just get rid of them there worth nothing to you just keep looking you will find the right person i know that im young and all but i am still commenting. most of the girls who act that way have been treated badly by a guy and its kind of like breaking up you want to be the first one so you dont hurt as much i guess. also a lot of them are full of themselves and bad to say but probably think there cooler or better than every one. plus i think its just kind of competitiveness to prove they are bigger or better. i dont like seeing guys suffer psychologically or emotionally i have seen both of my brothers after break ups and let me say it is very depressing and sad and i would never want a guy to have deal with that girls are just cruel. i hope this helped a little and sorry you have to deal with all the mean girls
00 ReplyIt's a never ending cycle.
Guy fucks over girl who loves him
Then that girl fucks over guy who loves her
Then that guy fucks over different girl who loves him.
And so on and so on.
People just need to have a little bit of respect and care slightly about others feelings... not to sound like a pussy. Empathy and honesty is all that's neended.30 Reply
+1 yI'm extremely compassionate towards anyone I love. Random guys who try to hit on me I admit I do let down but in a gentle way. I only get firm if they really push it. Guy friends I'm really caring towards. My one guy friend who I like I have such a soft spot for. Once I did hurt him and I felt awful for days and talked it out with him and admitted I made a mistake, so I do care:)
10 Reply"why do only females have freedom of emotion?"
Because men and women through their lives reinforce the gender stereotypes of how men and women should behave this has gone on for a long time and will continue to do so.
No all women are as you describe BUT there is a good potential for some of what you speak of because of how men are 'supposed' to be in most everyone's view same for women.00 Reply
+1 yAwe this makes me sad. I care about guys feelings :/
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+1 ythat is messed up. I don't think that any girl should treat a guy like that. I don't, and never would. I know too many guys with so many emotions similar to mine, and relate to them so well. I always want to make sure a guy that I am fond of or am friends with is doing alright, and would try to help if he wasn't. a lot of girls are just like that because they don't want their own feelings, I guess. I don't know what more to tell you.
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+1 yI'm really sorry that you've been treated like shit, but that isn't what's typical. Most girls aren't like that to most guys. I am a very sensitive person despite how I may seem online and I am always there for anyone who wants to talk so long as they're not assholes themselves.
I've been treated like shit by a couple of guys and I know the hurt. But I know not all guys are like that.00 Reply You might have just had a string of bad luck having blinded-by-privalge feminists as all your dates and i don't meant to be sexist but I've seen many things on the internet involving things like this so...
I can't really say much as i have yet to have any sort of romance let alone a date...00 Reply
+1 yMost of them are nuts and narcissistic mate. They just get a good at pretending they give a flying fuck about the next person. That's why this women in charge shit scares the fuck out of me. They get better when they're older but most, not all, but most of the younger ones are total arseholes
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWell i don't know about those other girls but i give a damn, and let me be the first to apologize for those women who hurt you but it's not all of us some of us care very deeply for our guy and wouldn't deliberately hurt them because we truly love them, hope one day you find a keeper who truly loves you and cares for you and never hurts you intentionally.
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+1 yUnfortunately for me its a defense mechanism. Whenever I get hurt I'm deemed as dramatic, overreacting, reading too much into things, hormonal, unrealistic... So my feelings are rarely even taken seriously with the men I've dated. So to overlook and shrug at men's feeling is my fucked up way of getting back at men. My feeling are ridiculous? Hm. Fuck his too.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI think the real problem here is that you're only attracting heartless girls. Maybe because you're a heartless guy? I don't know you, but people tend to attract what they are. Girls can be plenty kind and considerate to their S/O feelings. Start being more kind and compassionate and you'll find people who are. If you want someone who is more caring, do things in that lane (i. e. donating, charity runs, food drives). Don't expect to get a 100% considerate girl if you don't want to put the effort to be 100% considerate yourself. That's not how life works.
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Asker+1 yIt's when I'm being kind and compassionate that they treat me like this most of all. If I could do things in that lane, if I had anything to donate, then I would. I've worked in the religious equivalent to a food kitchen several times before, on a regular basis. And I've done charity drives as well. But I know I'm not 100% considerate- no-one is. I'm just asking for 1% considerate, any consideration at all. I know, it doesn't matter how great you are or how nice you are to someone, you're still not entitled to anything in return- they'll still treat you like shit. That's how life works. But why is it like that? Why are girls like that?
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yHonestly when I was 15(I'm 17 now) I said fuck it after being heartbroken for the 2nd time. I just didn't give a damn, rejected every girl with no emotion or explanation. If they didn't care about my feelings why should I. Funny enough my grades have improved. The fact I reject every girl makes other girls want to break that streak.
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+1 yTrust me, I care about guys' feelings... A LOT. In fact, I think I care too much about my guy's feelings even.
I just wish he'd care about mine too, even if not as much as I do... At least, just a bit :/30 Reply
+1 yNot all girls are the same Im very kind and I always see the beauty in people and it takes me time to see the bad in pepole I always think people are good and it hurts me because I always get hurt but I forgive and move on a guy just hurt me and he was the first guy like but I know it's not my fault it was he's and I don't blame all guys for he's mistake.
00 ReplyI'll say it again:
0 FUCKS GIVEN TO WHAT 'SOCIETY' THINKS.
I am who I am, don't like it? Tough fucking luck.
As for the women that act that way, there is always that one guy they will do everything for and he will cheat on their stupid ass.
Karma's a bitch for a reason.00 Reply
+1 yI've had many girls do horrific things to me. And I am talking about the times when I didn't provoke or do anything to 'deserve' it. I could right an essay. And I dont want to b/c I dont want to bring up bad memories.
30 Replyhaha i didn't even read your post, but girls, every girl, will give more fucks about emotions (hers and yours) more than you ever will. the problem is in their heads. they naturally overthink things and overcomplicate things for themselves which will often dictate their actions.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yas being a girl my self i can see where your coming from personaly i dont do that i get stressed out when my boyfriend pretends to cry becuase i hate him being sad and the same with my male companions some girls are just shady creatures and need to be kept away from humans that posses emotions sounds like you have had a tough time with this as you speak strongly about the subject but sounding like you are describing all girls like that i dont agree with
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yWe do give a damn about your feelings, but what do you expect us to do? I know a guy who I know has feelings for me, but I do not have any for him. Due to mutual friends and activities I can't ignore him, so instead Im just friendly-nice, but it probably hurts him when I kiss the guy I do like when he's around. Is that the kind of bitchy behavior you're talking about?
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 y(Short Version) I want to say 'we' but I can't so some do care a great deal but men aren't known to be completely upfront emotionally and are known to lash out when we wish to help. If one continues to get angry and aggressive again when we are trying to help a lady may not want to continue with the disrespectful nonsense being directed at us (assuming the subject matter does not pertain to that particular woman/relationship)
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+1 yThere are some girls that truly don't care, but there are girls that do care. I am fortunate enough to be dating a female that does care about my feelings and I am willing to admit that I am somewhat sensative. She knows that and accepts it completely and I couldn't be happier. If all you've met are negative women then try branching out and looking for the positive ones. They are out there. You just have to look for them.
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+1 yMy guy is quite emotional with me nd I love him for it.
U have been meeting the same bad kind if women and formed an opinion about all of based on a few.
What I can say is I have imense respect for everyone, men included.10 ReplyIt's annoying if you're being too emotional, sorry. Either you're a girl or a guy... most girls love it when a guy opens up to them from time to time. So stop whining and stop chasing self-absorbed b****es and you'll be fine.
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Asker+1 yIs the act of smiling or frowning too emotional?
Anonymous(36-45)+1 y"Are all women sadistic psychopaths who derive pleasure from human suffering and despair"
Might explain why they love going for guys like this. Your attracted to those who have similar traits to you.
Remember this guy:
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI have something to say. For me a real man has feelings. Society talks about these wrong notions. Rather i dont feel that a guy is a human being unless and until he has emotions. I dont like rock hard guys. And feelings are nt feminine. Feelings are "humane".
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Opinion Owner+1 yAlso no girl is a sadist ( except the rare cases). Most of us care for people. I do. Otherwise i wouldn't have bothered to answer your question. And its not hilarious to me when a guy is left devastated because of a woman.
They don't care because women generally see men as robots, not really believing that we have the same feelings they do. That's why girls get so weirded out when guys do express any type of vulnerable emotion.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI care about guys doest matter if they are my crushes, boyfriend, brother , friends , etc. I care about them I try to make them happy for example if they need an advice I give ti them or on in a while i buy them gift or invite them fro dinner, My happiness depends a lot in my crush happiness too and I try to make him the happiest guy.
10 ReplyHonestly, I did think guys were a little rough around the edges until I read Mars and Venus. I realized that guys are JUST AS SENSITIVE but just about different stuff.
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