Do you think women are incapable of loving men?

[ADFSDF1996]

I am going to be honest, I've recently became skeptical that women love men. There are many reasons why I feel like this. One of those reasons is because apparently women don't think men are physically attractive. The only way a woman can be attracted to a man, is if she gets to know the man personally. After that, if she likes his personality, she suddenly finds him attractive. I personally won't ever consider dating a woman like that. I've heard that women are attracted to powerful men, whether it be physical, social, economic or charismatic power, because women want protection. Apparently that's what attracts women to men not because of how men look. Women do seem to think other women are more visually attractive than men. What bothers me the most is that I think women view men like us straight men look at other men. I don't think women are in awe when they look at a man, like the way us men are in awe when we see a attractive woman. I've heard a lot of people say that women are biologically unable to find men physically attractive or even fall in love with men, they say that men are the ones that are suppose to fall in love with women. That's why women are naturally beautiful, to attract men. Men aren't designed to attract women. I feel that women only show "love" to men because it's a societal norm, not because women actually feel love for men. I know women can feel motherly love to their children and love their family, but I don't know if women are able to feel romantic love for men. So what does everyone think? Polite opinions only please.

[jadexo]

I think you're completely misguided about how women feel about men.

Some women are attracted to personality and other traits, but they're almost certainly lying if they say physical attraction isn't important, or at least a factor in choosing a partner. For me personally, physical attraction is the key factor. Women can be in awe when they see an attractive man - I've met a couple of boys who were that perfect physically that I've been in awe of them. And as for love - I've never loved someone, but I have been infatuated with boys, but for both looks and personality. So women can definitely love men as men love women.

There's a difference in what kind of attractive women and men are, maybe that's you've picked up on. Pretty women have delicate, soft features, whereas attractive men have stronger features, so therefore the women seem "visually attractive."

[ADFSDF1996]

So women are visually attractive in men's perspective while men are visually attractive in women's perspective?

[ADFSDF1996]

Also, is there a difference between pretty and attractive?

[jadexo]

I suppose. From a perspective removed from sexual attraction, I suppose women considered hot are more beautiful than men who are considered hot.

If you compare Chris Hemsworth with Miranda Kerr - both are considered attractive. But the typically feminine features of Miranda Kerr are more softer and therefore more aesthetically appealing objectively than gruffer, worn looks of Chris Hemsworth.

[ADFSDF1996]

So therefore women are more attractive.

[jadexo]

For pretty vs attractive;

For women - not so much. An attractive women is always pretty.

For men - I guess there's more of a divide. Men can be pretty (think Zac Efron, think Dylan O'Brien - more boyish), but don't have to be to be considered attractive (look at Channing Tatum - he hardly has dainty, "pretty" features, but his strong, manly features make him attractive).

Long answers I know but I get the feeling that you really want some clarification on this.

[ADFSDF1996]

I heard that it's all the makeup that women wear that makes their skin look all delicate and soft.

[jadexo]

I guess, from an objective point of view. But it's not so relevant when it comes to physical attraction - the strong features of men may not be delicate and pretty like women's, but that's what women find attractive.

[jadexo]

I suppose so. Makeup is made to exaggerate the delicate features of a woman, like making eyes appear more thin and catlike, making eyelashes longer, contouring to make bone structure appear more dainty. Light makeup can improve the texture of the skin.

But largely, a beautiful woman who is beautiful with makeup will still be attractive without it. Makeup enhances features, but cannot completely change the appearance of a person.

[ADFSDF1996]

So to you which gender is more attractive, or are both genders attractive?

[jadexo]

Visually, both. Sexually, only men.

[ADFSDF1996]

That makes sense now, thanks for your opinion.

[cherrymarina]

I think you have spent too much time on GAG and took everybody's answers too seriously. Women's love for a man is in my opinion much stronger. We accept men the way they are once we are in love with them. We are less likely to cheat, we are less likely to drool over other guys once we have set our eyes on you. What makes a man is not his looks, but his strength and character. Maybe that's why we are drawn to power. But not that superficial power most guys have in find.

[ADFSDF1996]

So that means women don't find a man physically attractive?

[cherrymarina]

u can't be serious with that question. We wouldn't be able to reproduce if we didn't find men attractive.

[ADFSDF1996]

Oh, it's cause I was kind of confused by your opinion.

[cherrymarina]

But its not logical isn't it? not being attracted to men? we would be lesbians then. I am just saying that being HOT doesn't mean a thing if you don't have the personality to back it up.

[ADFSDF1996]

So you care about physical appearance and personality on men, correct?

[cherrymarina]

why are you not understanding my point?

Obviously there must be some kind of attraction there but it's not like ''he should be this feet tall, green eyes, dark hair' etc'. Attraction just happens and it's usually a combination of both his personality and looks. Those looks can vary from tall to short, from dark-haired to blonde-haired, from chubby to skinny or muscular. It all depends on the person. When people say I like this kind of a guy it's just a fantasy. In reality they can fall in love with the complete opposite of what they liked before.

[ADFSDF1996]

I think I understand you, you can't control who you find attractive. I know a lot of women that say they only prefer a certain race of guys because they can do certain things.

[cherrymarina]

Yes but there are million different types of attractive. I have had crushes on chubby guys, on muscular guys, on short guys, on tall guys, on curly guys, on blonde guys etc etc.

[ADFSDF1996]

I think I understand now, so these guys you've had crushes on, were you both emotionally and physically attracted to them?

[cherrymarina]

They had a certain vibe about them. Their personality, their presence made me fall for them. The way they walked and talked, the way they looked at me, the way they carried themselves. I was just drawn to them. Never thought I would, because most of these guys were not really my ''type'' but they really changed the definition of my type. All of them had strong characters, they carried themselves with confidence.

[ADFSDF1996]

So it had nothing to do with how they looked, just the way they acted?

[cherrymarina]

ur missing my point it's not one or the other it's a COMBINATION of both. They balance each other out.

[ADFSDF1996]

I think I understand you now.

[Benedek38]

"Women's love for a man is in my opinion much stronger."
Well, OBVIOUSLY. Women's love is always stronger, because generally, women are better people /s

"We accept men the way they are once we are in love with them."
Yeah... After you vet men for years looking for the perfect guy, and settle with him, you accept his flaws. How noble of you.
I guess I could live with the flaws of Gigi Hadid, too. I'd have to try really hard to put up with them though.

"We are less likely to cheat"
Men are cheating less and less. Women cheat more and more. They are about equal now, in 2018. And these are based on self-admited statistics, which are skewed by the fact that men are more proud of their sexual adventures, while women are valued more for their perceived innocence. So it is entirely possible women cheat far more than men.

[Benedek38]

"What makes a man is not his looks, but his strength and character."
In other words, you have a great excuse to cheat on him.
"He isn't the same"

"Maybe that's why we are drawn to power. But not that superficial power most guys have in find."
What is "superficial power"?

[joeblow123]

@Benedek38 Well, OBVIOUSLY. Women's love is always stronger because generally, women are better people /s

Traitor

[MojoMartin]

Women are incapable of loving a man or falling in love with a man. T

[MojoMartin]

Women are only created to love their children and biological relatives but not their sexual partner. Women are incapable of falling in love with men.

[fauchelevent]

I mean, considering that I feel romantic love for my boyfriend, I'm gonna go ahead and take a wild guess that women can feel romantic love for men.

[ADFSDF1996]

Do like him because of how he looks, his personality or both?

[fauchelevent]

Both, obviously. If I didn't like his looks or his personality, I wouldn't have stuck with him for this length of time.

[ADFSDF1996]

Do you think it's the same kind of physical attraction as to when a man finds a woman physically attractive? Us straight guys can tell if a man looks good. Now if women look at men the same way us straight guys look at other men, then that's not physical attraction.

[fauchelevent]

I think it's the same kind of physical attraction that you feel for women.

[ADFSDF1996]

Sounds like you do love your boyfriend, thanks for your opinion👍.

[Benedek38]

Women don't love men.
Women love the IMAGE of men.
They like to call it "personality".
"Personality" is a combination of the following:
-Clothing, Style
-Physique
-Confidence
-Social status
-Money
-Humor

What personality ACTUALLY is, is far more complex - but they don't care about that, they care about attaching a pretty concept to their own biases.
It's like going to buy a car, and saying "I want a car with a powerful engine" - and then choosing a car based on which roars the loudest.

So yeah. Women don't love men as a whole, they fall in love with a figment of their character - an outline, an imprint on their personality.
First impression is EVERYTHING with women, because they choose partners based on unfounded, illogical stereotypes.

[sixnineanon]

Good question, probably lol

[ADFSDF1996]

I hope they can love.

[sixnineanon]

Thanks for MHO

[ADFSDF1996]

You're welcome.

[Comebackkid87]

The comments from the women here are hilarious. They can't refute anything he says they resort to trying to shame him. Classic female behavior. As for the OP, you are 100% right. Women ARE incapable of love the way you are describing it.

You inadvertently stumbled upon one of the first step towards true understanding, what the internet likes to call "The Red Pill."

I encourage you not to run from this conclusion but to explore it more and in greater detail, with a rational and level head. Do not listen to the parrots on this post, they will never give you honesty on this subject.

[flypaper]

I an head over heels in love with my Husband. He is my favorite person in the world- he is my lover and my best friend... I am incredibly lucky!

[flypaper]

Women and men are the same but different. Men fall and are lured in by looks and lust woman are lure in by personality and purpose but what keeps you there is personality and purpose and personality and us is looks and lust. I fall for a man and who he is but then i got lustful and got see how incredibly gorgeous he is and long for him. You fall for how she is but keep her for who she is. The same but different. If we were the same woman would be able by society to just sleep around however we are not. We are expected to not just sleep around. Men put a high value on sex so must we is we hope to marry which means same goal just a different set of rules. The rules are different, but not the attraction.

[ADFSDF1996]

Sorry for replying late but are you saying that women are not physically attracted to men?

[flypaper]

We are, it's just different then how men are usually attracted I think because we aren't as physical as men, we are more emotional so we need and are physically attracted to different things in different ways. is my guess anyway. At least that's what I think.

[ADFSDF1996]

I think I understand now, thanks for replying.

[DrTruth]

Generally. Women don't love men. However, women do love what men can do for them. Mainly to be a workhorse at the office till they die. If you want to experience true unconditional love, get a dog.

[99percentangel]

Wtf women can and do find men attractive and we are capable of loving men.

[ADFSDF1996]

Maybe you're right, I hope you are right. If you look at my previous questions and my takes, you'll know why I asked this question.

[skaikrasha]

Oh for fuck's sake.
You think you know everything about women... well, I've got news for you buddy, you know jack shit.
Just because no woman has ever loved you, doesn't mean they never love any man.

[ADFSDF1996]

Did I ever claim to know everything about women, no I didn't. So don't be putting words in my mouth. You lost your credibility with that kind of tone.

[skaikrasha]

Just a conclusion that can be easily made from reading your question.

[ADFSDF1996]

Well before judging someone maybe you should talk to them first.

[skaikrasha]

Well before asking a dumb question you should go buy some common sense 😒

[ADFSDF1996]

It's a simple question, the one that needs common sense is you. I am trying to understand women.

[skaikrasha]

I need common sense? Any person with at least a bit of it knows damn well that both genders are capable of love. You must be living under a rock if you believe otherwise.

[ADFSDF1996]

It's called being skeptical. I not saying for sure that women are incapable of love. I just noticed a lot of things recently. Are you going to keep making yourself look bad by berating me? Or can you be civilized?

[skaikrasha]

You and Applefan1 should be friends.

[ADFSDF1996]

I'm not a woman, so of course I don't know anything about women. Likewise you are not a man, so you obviously don't know anything about men.

[skaikrasha]

Anything? Lol what? I wasn't born yesterday, so obviously I do know this and that about man, like the fact that they are capable of love just like women are.

[skaikrasha]

*men

[ADFSDF1996]

You probably don't know why I ask this question. I have OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) I tend to worry about a lot of things, so asked this question here because it was bothering me.

[skaikrasha]

Well rest assured that women are perfectly capable of love.

[ADFSDF1996]

I think now I know women are capable of love.

[joeblow123]

We are living in a gynocentric dystopia where women lie to men without any remorse whatsoever. It sounds like your OCD is serving you well. Sort of like a spidey sense.

[Anonymous]

I don't agree with what you said. I think the problem is a man can't accept it when a woman finds him physically attractive. I called a guy I was seeing "hot," and after that, he never wanted to see me again.

[ADFSDF1996]

I like it when women call me hot. I was called hot and ogled by a group of women when I was 12 years old. I just don't know if it means the same as to when us guys call a woman hot.

[Opinion Owner]

How do you interpret it, personally, when a woman calls you that? I honestly didn't mean to offend him, and I really liked (and still like) him as a person, so I'm sad that he broke things off because of that.

[ADFSDF1996]

Before all these worries, I would always interpret it as a compliment. I am a very shy guy, so I never compliment women. I wait for the woman to compliment me before I compliment her. I don't understand why the guy you called hot reacted like that though.

[Opinion Owner]

Who knows. Maybe it's a self-esteem thing.

[ADFSDF1996]

That could be the reason why he reacted like that

[joeblow123]

If a group of men did that to a 12-year-old girl they would be incarcerated.

[joeblow123]

Maybe there were other reasons. If you told him that he is hot and that you have a penis don't assume the "hot" part was the deal-breaker.

[joeblow123]

What's his side of the story?

[nikki_24]

I love my man with all my heart, would do anything for him and I think he is the sexiest guy alive.
Maybe some women just are not that affectionate?

[mistixs]

The only way a woman can be attracted to a man, is if she gets to know the man personally. After that, if she likes his personality, she suddenly finds him attractive"

That's TRUE love. Looks fade, personality is forever

[Benedek38]

Bullshit. Personality can change over time, just like looks. The difference is that most men don't abandon their wives because they became old and ugly - but many women abandon their husbands because their personality changes (which, for the record, is a direct reflection of thier relationship, and just as much her fault as his, but whatever).

80-90% of divorces are initiated by women.
And that's only taking into consideration marriages, not all romantic relationships.

[mistixs]

@Benedek38 most divorces may be initiated by women but most marriages don't end in divorce

[Benedek38]

Actually around 50% of all marriages end in divorce, and that's not taking into consideration the people who never get married in the first place for fear of commitment.

[mistixs]

@Benedek38 Well 80% of 50% is 40%, which still means that most women don't initiate divorce

[Anonymous]

Certainly not incapable but many women do seem to think of love as a magic spell they cast over a man which gets him to do what they want.

[anonman32]

you know what somehow i think that women are not spiders who eat their lovers after sex.

[Anonymous]

So love is physical attraction is what you're sayin? I think love is the emotional connection so if anything the fact women fall in love with personalities rather than the physical is because they are capable of love.

[ADFSDF1996]

Do women even get attracted by the physical appearance of a man?

[DivaMonae]

Only as incapable as men are when loving women 😒

[ADFSDF1996]

I think I understand you.

[DivaMonae]

If by that you mean that I'm saying there are some people that way but not all then yes.

[Anonymous]

no, women are incapable of loving men the way men love women, they think of men as egyptian slaves carrying a cat around on a litter and feeding them with fresh grapes.
this is a hard truth to swallow for men, and women will never admit it, because it may ruin their 'business'

[cth96190]

Experiences have caused me to question whether or not women can love anyone or anything other than themselves and sometimes their own children.

[Anonymous]

women are more loving and caring in relationship than even men... move on... it seems you haven't found the right person. stop being a sore loser

[ADFSDF1996]

I don't want to marry a misandrist, so I'm being careful.

[Jennamiamay]

They are incapable of loving their children also. It’s all about possession. They don’t know what love is, but it appears they do by their actions which are really manipulated actions

[Sabretooth]

many women can ask the same of us.

[ADFSDF1996]

They always do, it's further proof that men and women will never fully understand each other.

[Sabretooth]

It's a matter of commitment. I know a girl who I could read easily just by looking in her eyes.

[Anonymous]

So all women are lesbians?

[ADFSDF1996]

I don't know about that, but why do a lot of women that claim they are straight always say that women are more visually attractive than men?

[Anonymous]

I just read the title. A new MGTOW. Dear Lord…

[ADFSDF1996]

I am not a MGTOW. I love women, but I just don't know if women love men.

[Opinion Owner]

WE DO.

[ADFSDF1996]

Maybe you do, it's just that I am skeptical at the moment.

[Opinion Owner]

- Heterosexual females are *physically* attracted to males.
- Men and women are different, which is why we are biologically wired to find different traits attractive in our potential mates.

Of course women fall in love. I don't understand why you are even wondering about this, unless you've been watching Sandman videos.

[ADFSDF1996]

I don't know what "sandman" videos are.

[Opinion Owner]

My point is, you need to come to terms with the fact that men and women are different. I didn't read your entire myTake but:

"To me if a woman has a nice face, nice personality, nice clothing style and if she is in at least decent shape, I will consider dating her only if she feels the same about me".

What you described there, in a nutshell, is what men are primarily attracted to. First looks, then personality.

Women are different. I already said that women *are* physically attracted to men. But that's not enough to make them fall in love. Looks are secondary. Why? Because of biology.

In any case, women are capable of falling in love.

[ADFSDF1996]

When you say women are physically attracted to men, do you think it's the same kind of physical attraction us straight guys feel towards women? Or do women only look at us guys like us straight guys look look at other guys? This is hard to explain, us straight guys can tell if a man looks good, only in a artistic point of view. Is it the same for women? Are women naturally more beautiful than men?

[Opinion Owner]

Your logic is flawed. Why would *heterosexual females* look at males in the same manner that *heterosexual men* look at other men?

[ADFSDF1996]

It's more of a fear that I have.

[Opinion Owner]

Well, it's an irrational fear. No one can do anything for you in that case, you have to sort it out yourself.

[ADFSDF1996]

After reading all of these opinions, now I know women love men, it's just since women are a different gender, they look at us men differently. Thanks for your opinion.

[Opinion Owner]

You're welcome.

And yes, we are different, but we complement each other. That's the beauty of it.

[joeblow123]

Why love something that cannot love you back?

[joeblow123]

MGTOW is awesome. MGTOW today MGTOW tomorrow MGTOW forever.

MRA's are awesome too.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeblow123 Good for you 👍

[Waffles731]

Yes, they can