Hah! Interesting question. I had to add my 2 cents worth. The simple answer to the question is yes! But nothing is ever that simple is it?
Of course a woman is capable of loving a man, the question is how long does it take before that love she had for him in the beginning turns into something else. She may genuinely still love him even after quite some time, I'm talking years later, but love evolves and changes. The misty eyed, dreamy, "he's the right one for me" will inevitably change to, "I love him, but I wish he was like this or like that, or would do this or that."
Sometimes that might be in the extreme, and other times not so much. But I'd be very surprised if there was any woman in any long term relationship who hasn't had that thought at least once. I'm not talking about an abusive relationship, or a relationship with huge challenges for whatever reason, I'm talking about a perfectly normal relationship.
The issue is that sometimes the woman isn't even aware of how she's treating her partner, and quite often her behaviour can become emasculating to him. When this happens, this is where things start to go wrong. The male partner starts withdrawing from the relationship and any intimacy diminishes, the woman starts to feel neglected and she feels he doesn't love her any more, the relationship turns cold and he or she feels they can't go on like that any more and file for divorce, or separate. Because of this this emasculating behaviour it's even possible that it drives the man to look outside the relationship for what he needs if he's not getting it from his partner. I'm not merely talking sex either.
In our modern Western society I would say that this is more prevalent than anybody realises, even for the women who are doing the emasculating, they don't realise they are being like that.
Modern Western society teaches us that women should be equal to men. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for women being equally paid and having equal opportunities, I'm definitely all for that, but that's not what I'm referring to.
In Western societies it would seem to me that many women seem to think that equality also means equality between the dynamics of a man and a woman, or worse, believe that they feel empowered by being independent and only have a man for their convenience. The truth is, that unless everyone is gay, or transgender, or whatever they want to call themselves these days, the sexes will never be equal, we are what we are, it's just how it is. We each have a part to play in relationships, we each are different and we complement each other.
I suppose because of these modern expectations it all leads to the roles between men and women becoming confused and blurred. Because of this drive for equality, women are supposed to be more masculine and to be competitive against men. Men are supposed to be more in touch with their feminine side and be more maternal (not paternal). All that serves to do is to wreak havoc on a relationship.
You don't have to believe me, check it out for yourself. Below are just a few examples to which I am referring. ...
It usually takes them a little longer to take a shine. The value of patience. But sometimes, even when feelings begin to form, life requires them to make difficult choices. And then, the man has to also make difficult choices. It's why I couldn't keep the woman I wanted. To keep trying would have endangered us both. Our societal stations were simply incompatible. I didn't appreciate how quickly she moved on, but I understand that's how it is in China. She didn't have many better options, and I couldn't give her any. As much as I'd love to see Xi strung up and burned from the nearest tree, I'm not a one-man army. On my best day, I'm a one-man publishing house.
The girl already has someone else's child, so it's a moot point to go to war for her. I've become Gatsby, except rich only in ideas. I'm not buried in champagne, and I can't hide behind Monoton font.
But I know the pain of losing the girl. Of wanting the one thing you can't have. My other best candidate is dead now. Burying myself in hard work only led to me requiring hernia surgery.
Honestly the harsh reality is that there aren't much people left who will love you genuinely. Infact many people lost their belief in love too. I was one of them a time ago.
Well yes there are gems still present who can brighten the world with their shine of love. Not necessary that the woman has to be in relationship for love (I'm saying this to explain myself better. Of course I will love my future partner very much too 😀). Could be for dad, brother, male friend and all. I haven't been in relationship but only have a crush currently. However I love my dad, brothers (cousin as I don't have own brother), male friends, grandpa to death. Those people still exist who can paint the black town with their pink love. Genuine people have genuine love.
Well don't mind if my opinion was cringe haha. I just come in my poetic mood when it comes to explain emotions as according to me poetic phrase can explain emotions beautifully.
I'm sorry if this was offensive in any way... Hope you (reader) forgive me if you found this offensive.
Well, I do, I'm capable of it. I know this to be true, so I also know that anyone who says that "women are incapable of love" (like all the MGTOW misogynists here) are wrong. Why? Because we're human, are capable of empathy, understand how important genuine relationships are, and have the capacity to trust others, and grow and develop as individuals with those we love. I know that some bitter and twisted blue loner will vote this down, but I don't care, because I know what's right and true, and now that I've answered this question I'll move on to the next one! :)
@snsl153 can you still love a man who makes mistakes or if can't give you anything except love, what if better men were into you, would still love the man who loved you or dump him for the better one?
@snsl153. Right, until he loses his job, gets seriously injured, has a mental breakdown, or otherwise falls short of being Superman... you will bounce like a bad check.
TonyMetal - We ALL make mistakes! Why would I "dump" anyone because of that? Exchange the one I was with for someone perceived to be "better"? No, I'm not that superficial. Do you two actually believe the crap you write?
@snsl153 if you are what you're saying you are than good for you but don't talk sh*t to me or to what others write because if you're a good girl than you're rare, doesn't make the majority the way you think...
In this "swipe right" culture women jet with the smallest of provocation. This is a huge reason men are much less likely to commit and why marriage rates are the lowest in recorded history.
@KrakenAttackin She pretends that she doesn't know. Playing the NAWALT card as usual. In the next question she'll start saying that she's a tradthot. Women are the most disgusting and embarrassing liars.
Why do men portray just women as incapable of love... You should ask if men are capable of loving women? You know, the men that cheat on their spouses, or abuse their spouses, or leave their spouses for younger/better...🤷🏼♀️
@KrakenAttackin that's what you assume... Don't make it fact now does it... I left my first husband, but because HE was physically abusive.. How many other women get divorced for that reason as well🤷🏼♀️ or because their husband was the one fucking around... 🤷🏼♀️
@Brainsbeforebeauty if you're an exceptional woman don't think that the majority are like you because you know that they aren't and don't put me in a box where you give me 2 unrealistic options "bad men vs good women" because my question was clear, i'm talking about a good man and a good woman, can a good woman love her man the same way her good man loves her? I doubt it!
That's in general!
When it comes to you, i do believe that you're a loving person and you succeeded in the real love test but what are you? A 1 woman on 1 billion others 😂
Oh, and stayed with my second husband for twenty years, and still love what he was, even though he's been gone 8 1/2 years.. Maybe it's not that women are incapable of loving men, maybe it's some men don't deserve it if they aren't a good person or don't love back.. But you just go on and keep trying to paint all women as evil and wicked🤣🤣
@KrakenAttackin this woman right here i saying the truth, she is really different ans that's the truth even though we argue sometimes but she truly does love from her heart knows what a real marriage and real love means unlike the majority of women...
@KrakenAttackin because you say so? Funny it was my father that abused me 🤷🏼♀️ And how many other men and women would tell you the same thing But you still wouldn't listen cuz you're too caught up in your bias and hatred to see/hear real truth/real facts.. But okay then, enjoy your weekend😊
@KrakenAttackin I think you're the one that needs to get over it... I'm not the one so full of hatred, I try to spread the hate... That would be you.. If a woman hurt you, get over it and stop trying to paint all women as bad, because "you" had a bad one... And again, don't you have a daughter? Who will someday be a woman? 🤷🏼♀️
@Brainsbeforebeauty Your anecdotes and personal life circumstances do not change statistics.
The overwhelming majority of divorces are filed by women. Close to 80% of them. Are we really to believe that 80% of men are bad husbands?
You would expect there to be some parity between the genders when it comes to filing for divorce. There is not. So how to explain this discrepancy?
Obviously 80% of men are bad husbands. And never mind that the rate of divorce goes up with the more college degrees the women have. Clearly better educated women are more likely to determine that these 80% of men aren’t fit for marriage.
@Agagagagaga "The overwhelming majority of divorces are filed by women." Can your cite your sources to see what reason they give for filing for divorce? Otherwise your argument is just not enough. @KrakenAttackin Do you seriously think it's always about wanting to go back to chasing Chad? You poor soul, you should get off Youtube seriously, and start living for real. Also, if you say they got bored with the simp they married, that means 80% of men are simps. So why are you so suprised? If it is true all women married a simp.
@Squaresquirrel These women cite no fault as this is the easiest path (divorce because you just changed your mind). And yes, these women leave with cash and prizes.
@RandomGuy1030 you need to seek help, would YOU stay with an abusive woman? Tell that shit to the women that got killed by their husbands... You gonna say THAT was love? If you REALLY love someone, you wouldn't hurt them and wouldn't disrespect them... And physically abusing someone isn't love and shows no respect or regard for that person's well being
@RandomGuy1030 what does that matter? Yes, he is.. you're missing the point that I might not be, had I stayed, or hell he might not be if I would of killed him in self defense. . His own mother had to beat him off me with a broom or I might not be here now. You call that love? And, even he knows what he did was wrong.. So no, we're no longer married, nor have we been for over 20 years, but we've remained cordial, because I did once love him, but I had to also love myself... Someone that really loves you will also protect you, not be the person that causes you to need protection... Again, what if that was your wife trying to choke you to death, would you call that love? Would you stay? And even if you say yes, that's you... Me, I won't put up with someone abusing me...
@RandomGuy1030 Normal people with healthy boundaries and a morsel of self-respect leave their abusive parents too. But I guess you will not understand this. Maybe up your medication, because you sound like a very messed up person. Even if you are trolling only
@RandomGuy1030 you need to grow up and also get some manners... But seeing you just want to insult people, then you're done here... Anymore rude comments to the other user will be deleted and reported... And maybe, you should seek therapy if you really believe abusing people is okay and a man who wouldn't abuse women as "weak"... And I mean that as advice, not insult... Before you wind up being the abuser
@RandomGuy1030 I suppose I'm lying too right🙄 And all the people who witnessed the abuse were too, and the bruises were lies too? The police reports? But because I still tried to protect my abuser like a dummy, I'd tell the police not to arrest him when the neighbors would call the police... Or my friend's dad when he hit me with his car. . When you don't know someone's story you should just🤐 But again, we done here now
@KrakenAttackin irrelevant. Do you know what the odds are of you getting divorced if you are white and your wife is also white? Around 35%. Just 35%. Let's say they do begin 80% of divorces. They start 80% of that 35%. Is 28%. So the moment you say "I do" the odds of your wife divorcing you is 28%.
My fiancee spoon fed me when I was laid up in a hospital bed. Not in a time when women require men for a meal ticket, but in current year. She did a lot for me, even wiped my behind when I couldnt with my back injury. She has done so much to help me, getting me therapy for my back, taking me on lots of vacations, she bought me a new car and all that. When I had to leave to go back home I called her and the phone didn't even get 1 full ring off before she picked up crying telling me how much she loved and missed me and just wanted me to come back then and there. Yeah she definitely loves me, no doubt about that.
I met this guy 3 years ago that I fell in love with, it started off as a crush but I couldnt get him off of my mind, the more I got to know him the more I started to like him but i was too scared to do anything about my feelings. Eventually I worked up the guts to tell him how i felt about him, sadly i got rejected and I tried to give up on him but my feelings for him wouldn't go away. Last year I decided to try again and this time he gave me a chance and we went out on a date, things went well and we started dating not long after that. This month will be our 6th month togther and I can honestly say that my feelings have only gotten stronger for him and that I love him.
No because generally speaking men & women express this in totally different ways. It's like a man is a dairy farmer who owns 1,000 cows... and she's a worker in an ice cream shop who likes to lecture dudes about how she knows everything about ice cream & he knows nothing. And maybe he would lecture her on how she knows nothing about cows. But both people deal with milk in some form.
The danger for men is that if he chooses the wrong woman he'll lose the farm. She will only lose a minimum wage ice cream shop job & can move to the next shop down the road within a day. Or to put it in real terms: a man is expected and willing (if he's traditional) to give his life to protect his woman. Very few women would do the same for a man. A man is risking his life to even take a woman seriously. He better choose wisely and avoid the women who are prone to create drama with strangers, to cheat. Lot of foolish guys have died for women who didn't give one crap about them.
There is no doubt in my mind. This week me and my wife were just talking during dinner. Just talking. At some point we look at each other. She had the most tender eyes on her looking at me. We stayed like that for a few seconds than we kissed. Hard to explain what those seconds felt like. You know one of those moments when you just know what the other is saying without hearing a word. It's hard to put to words some strong feelings. By the time we were done kissing she was holding tears. I know that woman loves me. Just like I love her.
Of course! It all starts in the childhood if u really think about it. I grew up w/o a father and a narc mom, so I chose a lot of problematic partners, but I blamed the men. I figured out my mother's tactics eventually. I met my husband and he has his faults but he's a good man. When u find a person that makes u want to better urself, that's the one for u. 😊
Yeah we are. Finding love is just hard and having two lives intertwine can be a challenge. I love my boyfriend very much. It's only been two years but it's love regardless. Only time will tell if it lasts, but right now I'm very happy that we chose eachother.
Real love lasts forever because love is a combination of a lot of positive and negative things together...
When you truly love, it means this person will become you're oxygen in this life which means any opsticule or problem that occurs in you're lives should be solved together...
Yes they are. You have plenty that make an effort and those that don't even try. Women should know how to treat a man when it comes to a relationship. It makes sense if she was to be treated right, she has to treat him right. She can rub his back, talk to him about his day, buy him a gift, etc.
Loving someone is simple. Loving the wrong person is hard. They expect and don't reciprocate. They're challenging and don't respect you.
No. I do not believe women are capable of truly loving men. They’re too busy blaming us men for shit. They’re too busy controlling every aspect of a man’s life. Women just love being in control. That’s all they want. And they use this fictional belief called love to manipulate men into marrying them just so that she file for divorce once they reach a certain level of wealth and status and completely drain him off everything they worked so hard far. Sometimes even destroying him further.
Era doesn't change people's love or terms of love because human nature doesn't change simply because era changes.
A person shows loves at least real love which is Biblical love is about given unto someone which is the following.
(In this case romantic love)
Patience with them, respect towards them, humility towards them, not acting arrogant or thinking you're better than them, think no evil of them, not selfish towards them and enduring all things with them.
Love isn't about doing this or that for me and see what I can get from that person to make me happy.
People have things backwards thinking love is what a person can do for you as you wish but it's the opposite. It's what you do for them as I mentioned above.
Women are incapable of love. They don't love you. They only care what you can for them. If you stop doing them favours and giving them free stuff either because you have nothing left or because you're tired that when they nag you to an early grave "you don't do anything for me, therefore you don't love me". Any man who wants love would be better off with a dog.
We are, just like men are capable of loving us. The problem is that women (and men too) out there who have no trouble hurting people. Unfortunately the bad ones ruin it for the good ones.
Can't blame you for your trust issue? Women can and will! The simple fact of the matter is when you're a man and tell a woman you have feelings she just looks confused... it doesn't compute! Men exist only to cater to their feelings. Now women will care about your feelings when you're in a relationship with them. But that's because you're bonded to them. In their mind you're an extension of them at that point. In other words to hurt your feelings is to hurt their own feelings. Which is the real reason they care. Because in then end it's really about them, not you. If you tell a woman you have any trust issues before you're in a relationship she only looks at you as mentally weak. This is why you NEVER tell a woman this before dating. In fact it's best just to never mention it period! Women are always looking for a weakness in you. Most women don't get this is why a guy that has ANY experience with relationships knows it's best to share as little as possible with a woman.
I think the only women capable of loving men are the ones who don't want children. They don't have an agenda, they would love that man 100%. The rest? Questionable. To a certain degree, but children will always come first. Maybe that's why I actually admire gay couples, that's pure love. (obviously I generalize, there are always exceptions)
What about the ones who are always getting abortion/ attempting to get abortions, claiming that they will get an abortion. Do they not love their men nor the children? I mean, they obviously don’t care enough to give their partner equal importance say in the matter of whether or not to get an abortion. And the fact that they’re willing to give up on allowing both her and her partner’s child to enter the world means she has no love for the child either.
@SolitarySolace So, you answered your own comment. But for the people with weaker reading and comprehension skills, and for those who are obsessed with abortion, I meant women who genuinely don't want children and they do everything they can to avoid it. And abortion is really not the main point of this question I think.
@squaresquirrel 1st of all thanks for sharing and 2nd i'll never marry a woman who considers her future kids to be her 1st priority or to love them more than she loves me...
Unfortunately, that’s what you get to look forward to if you plan on having kids. Either that or your partner will want an abortion and your opinion will be absolutely pointless 🤷🏻♂️ @TonyMetal__86
@SolitarySolace nope that's not who it works, because there ladies out there who will always consider their spouse to be their 1st priority and would never accept to put her kids 1st, a family is the 1st priority and they are all equally important...
If a women isn't satisfied or is unhappy for any reason, it seems like she "falls out of love" very easily and quickly. Was it real in the first place? Maybe , but not very strongly. But that can't apply to all women, there are true gems in the world, but it's like panning for gold, will you find a gold nugget? Probably not.
Love is an emotion. No emotion last forever. Respect is like concrete and will get you 50 years of happy marriage. Find someone you respect and who respects you. Let the rest work its self out. If he respects you... you won't even have to explain your trust issues. In other words ladies. Quit wasting time on guys and find a real man.
no not really, they think they love but its so subjectible to change and fluctuations, for example,,, a guy loves someone he always will... a girl loves a guy aslong as he has muscles and a nice job... and if he ever says one thing wrong.. she doesn't love him any more
Somewhat you have point there... Doesn't needs to be money, it can be anything...
The thing is if we take a real loving man and a real loving woman, we notice that a woman will never be attached to a man the way a man is attached to a girl and it's always the girl who is the 1st to dump, usually this is what happens these days...
Statistics DO lie (or at least they can be made to). It's incredibly easy to fudge the numbers, or slant them, or otherwise make them say what you want them to. It happens all the time! I say this as someone who actually knows quite a lot about the subject.
@Snsl153 this is the 1st proof that proves that you're someone superficial because you made assumptions about us without knowing us...
Also where did you see me insulting you or talking trash to you, i'm 36, if you see me as an old man than that's you're problem, i don't really care about you're assumptions, you are what you are and i am what i am...
If you can't tame you're mouth while talking to me than be aware that i have my border lines...
We are having a civil convo, i haven't attacked you at all, why are you making insults and attacking me and others?
@Snsl153 Do you know how many men came back from Afghanistan and Iraq missing a limb and their wives were like "eeeewwwwe", and filed for divorce? A shit ton.
@Snsl153 than challenge this, reported and blocked! Do you think that anyone gives a sh*t about you, a feminist can't go undercover for more than a minute 🤣🤣
Enough with this protectors/nurturers rubbish! It's outdated. We're not living in 30,000 BC anymore. Society has changed for the better and moved on. You should too.
Women don't fall in love at first sight like men do. True love exists but only if you don't have pre conditions. You just fall in love with other person.
No. Women love themselves and will “love” a man as long as he benefits her. When he stops benefiting her she will become bored or “unhappy” and start looking for greener grass.
then you can ask the question without generalizing. Not all women are the same. Likewise, it is not the same for all men. For example, middle eastern men and Asian men are savage and barbaric. constantly oppresses, abuses or kills women. For example, we Kurds used to have a matriarchal system, and when we met the Arabs, this system was replaced by a rigid patriarchy. Men have rendered women worthless as property. The Kurds encountered the Arabs and became completely patriarchal. Our Kurdish songs and proverbs always say this, we Kurds slept Arab we woke up. For example, the Arabs had a concubine system and even the Ottomans took this system and established a harem. A sultan had more than 500 concubines.
I'm middle eastern and i'm never like that! When you say to someone to not generalize, you should start doing that yourself before saying it to others...
These are rare people and are an exception and you have to see if they stayed together all this time just because they love each other or there are some things included too...
We can all hear about it and see it everyday but do you think that it lasts in bad times and do you think that if women had someone a lot better than you from all aspects, would they dump you or keep you? 😏
@Brainsbeforebeauty true it is maybe a little less or a little more, i haven't done any research but based on what i see and read worldwide, it's a big number for sure...
Anyways everything that is labeled as good is becoming less and everything that is labeled as bad is becoming more...
@TonyMetal___86 don't believe everything you read or hear, people lie all the time, people also only tell "their side" of the story, go by what you "personally" see /experience from people, not by what some asshats say "women are like" or "men are like" I don't listen or believe when women bash all men as bad, because I personally know many men that aren't that way, even though I also personally know"some" that are... Same could be applied to women, some are bad, some are good.. That's life..
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