I know this might come as a shock, but GENERALLY, people of a given Social Market Value and up with people of about the same SMV. If a guy is a 9+ (from women's perspective), chances are he's going to end up with a 9+ (from a man's perspective).
If you were a super-attractive guy, were educated, had money and status (in other words, you're a 9+), would you be out looking for girls who are a 5 or a 6, or would you be after 9's and 10's? I think we all know the answer. Likewise, a woman who is a 9+ isn't going to be interested in a guy who is a 5 or a 6 when we knows fully well that she can get a 9+ guy.
It's like asking "Where are all the brand new Ferraris for $15,000 for the people who can't afford $200,000+?" They don't exist. Ferraris are expensive because they are desirable and there are very few to go around, so only people who can come up with the money get to own one.
If you want hotter girls, you have to increase your own social value. It's that simple. Women want equal (or better) value just like men do.
I think you're just seeing it from a certain perspective. Hot girls have the option to be shallow more so than plane Jane. So yeah you're going to see it more often in that group of peoples. It's like looking at rich people and wondering why so many of them actually own a home instead of paying out the ass monthly like all the poor people do... they have that option just more readily available to them.
So in short... shallow people can be hot, but not all hot people are shallow.
No. It's the people that worship them that makes them shallow. If nobody gives praises to them based on looks, you will see that many of them just want to be accepted and loved like anybody else. Otherwise, you develop isolation of attractiveness. If they see that your open, people won't feel too intimidated. Shallow people are just that, shallow.
So let me sum it up... You want someone hot (aka shallow) who is willing to date someone ugly (aka not shallow)?
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I am not ugly. When I ask for honest opinions I usually get moderately positive reviews. I am however a few inches below average height though, and could be be in better shape (although not in gross shape either)
@Isten I will say, there is a perception backed by statistics that whether a woman herself is average or not, her expectation is usually to be with an above average guy. This is because some stats show that females view above average men as only average. On dating sites, about 80% of females think the top 20% of males are average. So at a time where there's a growing number of guys are feeling some disconnect from women, many of them feel a mounting pressure to be "alpha", because women respond to such behaviour with attention, attraction, and arousal. It's as though guys are often pressured, even more than women, to live up to being an object of desire. They feel judged as and reduced to either mere sex objects, success objects or the usual both.
I have seen this argument used over and over on here, but I won't believe it, especially because it comes from OkCupid. Dating sites are mostly filled with desperate dudes (with the occasional normal ones, but they are a minority) who are below average, so it makes sense that only 20% of them are average there. You act like average guys are never in relationships, yet sorry to dissapoint you, but I see many average couples on a daily basis.
Well Tinder too. But this says is on the dimension of visual attraction, that's an idea of where guys stand. Obviously there is the success object portion of this where one needs to observe a man's personality. Fun is valued sure, but let's consider that men aren't the only ones to place value on stoicism as a trademark of masculinity, for example.
And this isn't to say men can't find relationships, but rather to say, that men might feel more pressure to live up to expectations, and less faith or security to have LTRs. But this is just a perception out there. Whether it is accurate I don't know, but it often makes sense.
One more thing, I would imagine that the women on those sites are roughly as desperate as the men. The difference in how such desperation is either satiated or hidden I think is in the "courting" process; men make the first move, women either accept or reject, and the cycle repeats.
I'm not gonna lie, I never understood the concept of league's.
Because personally I will just be able to decide whether or not I want to date someone based on a conversation I've had with them.
I will say this over and over. If you are reading this and think your appearance is why you don't get dates, I have something to say to you.
If your personality compensates for your lack of attractive features, then you would not have a problem getting dates unless you actually look like Jabba the hut.
And even then, I'm sure there's some weird girl or old gay man who's sexually attracted to Jabba the hut.
They can be. They have been told they are beautiful everyday five times a day since they were 5 years old.
It’s a blessing they can either use or abuse. But it’s a finite blessing. If they decide to rely on their looks and do nothing else they will become useless later in life. Also some people might not take them as seriously when they pursue legitimate careers, especially in the STEM field.
Some guys are guilty of this too. I had a real “cute and innocent” look to me that helped me get out of trouble for many years. I wasn’t necessarily a bad kid but still it didn’t hurt.
Most girls who are born pretty act just the same as everyone else, even the ones who put a little bit of effort into looking good. But if it's extremely noticeable that they're putting way too much effort into their appearance, than they're most likely materialistic and shallow.
I don't consider myself to be very shallow but I'm more a cute kid, an awesome reptilian or a laser robot than a hot girl, so I might not count 🤔
However I find the more attractive someone is, despite the gender, the shallower they might be. Someone that is aware of their attractiveness would want to be with someone with similar level of attractiveness.
All women are shallow. Take my word on it. Ugly or hot, they will suck your metaphorical dick outta your money. I'm broke as fuck and living in the streets. My girl stole my Bugatti, house, and bank account. Fuck man, how y'all ladies gonna do this to me?
I helped my boyfriend pay for his drum set. 🤔 I was sad a couple of days ago cause I thought for a bit that he might’ve wanted someone better. After talking to him, it was clear that it was NOT true. For his birthday I bought him cake and cleaned. I got him a gift in hopes that he would like it. He doesn’t go to school and he’s nit rich but I appreciate him as a person anyways. Despite that my parents believe he’s not enough, I think he’s perfect because this is a guy who I love to be around with, who I try to love and care for, and I found it so crazy when I found out he spent his last dollar on me once on gas to see me (i use to live 25 minutes away) and we shared two tiny tacos...
Also his drum set was about $600 and that didn’t include symbols. I had a friend who crushed on me long before I met my boyfriend. I wasn’t attracted to my friend, but I thought I’d give him a shot and asked him out. I got mad at my friend for using a guy for food (she’s self centered though. Not all girls are like this). Also there’s a difference between selfishness and looking out for yourself. Sorry but if a guy needed help on the road, I’d call the cops to let them know he might need help but wouldn’t stop because crime here is frequent and there are many people who will trick you into things. My dad was trying to help a lady in the side of the road but saw people with knives on the other side of her car. They were trying to be sneaky but he caught it and ran off.
Some people are just selfish though. My coworker has a girlfriend. They’ve been together since high school. She said she wouldn’t ever have sex with him till marriage. He said it was okay and he was there for her thick and thin. He’s out if highschool now, he’s 19 almost 20. She’s pregnant and not married. He convinced her. Now he’s cheating on her with the girl from Starbucks next door and so on.
Most that I've come across are shallow and really boring to be around. Boring conversations usually. It's not always the case but it is at times. It's the same with people who aren't hot.
That hasn't been my experience. I find that hot girls tend to be deeper than people give them credit for. The really obnoxious girls/people are the ones who hangout with the hot girls. Those people tend to be real creeps and leaches.
Most women are attracted to men who have busy lives so sex is not on table 24/7 Women genraly hate sex they only want it when you don't so they end up buying Rabbit ( sex toy ) then find another man for bit on side
Many people think hot guys are shallow and hot boys are shallow too. It’s totally wrong. People who are unattractive attach hot looking people. So we will think unattractive people have more brains
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Are most pro-athletes shallow for having attractive wives?
Why are you making the automatic assumption women are shallow if they are hot and married to an athlete? That in itself seems a bit shallow of you to say...
They exist but they are rare. It's hard to stay grounded when people have been falling at your feet praising you your whole life
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When you’re hot you have more options if there’s a rich funny, mediocre looking guy and a rich, funny, handsome guys in their DMs why would they pick the mediocre guy?
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