What do you think about independent women?

[Anonymous]

What do you think guys about independent women who are quiet and have limited people around them but they usually like to spend thier time with theirselves than with friends? Are they are boring for you and you wouldn't think to have a relationship with this type of women?

[Reaperbot666]

• it is fine for a girl to work on your career path or go to college to better yourself and learn new things. so you can one day hopefully get a good job or career path.
• but truthfully most guys don't expect or want a girl. who is only focused on her job/career. since most guys are typically the main provider in a relationship.
• guys generally just want a girl with a decent income. who can help with the bills and be self sufficient most of the time. so she is not always asking the guy for money to buy things.
• while you don't have to worry about marriage or children at this stage in life. consider at least looking for a long term or life partner you could see yourself with. so you both can build a bond and foundation together for a relationship to grow.
• ideally I say 3+ dating before getting engaged. then 3+ engaged before getting married. then consider children after marriage. but it does not always work out like that. or people might not want that even.
• however the longer your together with someone. the harder it becomes to hide your true nature from them. or they can hide theirs from you.

[Oigit]

To be honest, I reached a point in my life a few years ago that a independent and strong woman became my ideal partner. Dating off and on also really drove home the fact that I am a strong and independent person. Dating a woman who seems to feel like she needs to be attached to my hip did make things fizzle out between us rather quickly.

Also my childhood and several events in my adulthood have made become a very strong and determined person. Dating a woman that made me feel like I had to carry her on my shoulders through her issues and never tried to solve them herself, did caused us to part ways.

I'm not one for anything close to a "old school" relationship. Put me in a relationship where I'm expected to be the bread winner and my wife is supposed to take care of the house and me isn't going to work out.

[girlzruleboyzdrool]

Yes, so me!!! I love being independant and doing my own thing!! I'm the kind of girl that goes exploring and camping and I even load up my kids and we take off tenting until my husband can join us. I love to do my own thing, I love hiking and canoeing and exploring and zipling. I love pumping my own gas, cranking my tunes when i'm driving and enjoy time alone and with friends and with my husband and family too. Totally, think girls should be independant and to never lose that!

[5points2gspot]

I think independent women are very courageous & brave, & those few people in her circle are very rare, just like she is.
There’s a difference between being independent and anti social/ emotional unavailable.
She can be independent but still need the touch & calmness of a man that only a man can provide.
An emotional support from a man speaks volumes. Even if she’s independent on bills, the mental & emotional intimacy would always be needed.

[The6ix]

I actually love those type of women and girls. They have their mind set, they want to focus on their goals and they are unique in their own right. I want to meet a girl like that one day, now it’s one thing to be anti social. What you described is similar to how I am. I have friends yes from work, school and other places, but I only talk to a handful of them. Many people I know do drugs or party and that’s not my cup of tea. But it doesn’t mean I shun people, I still want to talk to others, explore new places around the world and etc.

[Vencam]

What you're describing seems more like a "loner" then an independent woman, though?
I mean, one can be both, but being a loner doesn't make you an independent person, nor the other way around

In both cases, I don't mind much as long as it's not too extreme. So someone who's incredibly hard to help without offending her or some who barely tolerates spending time toghether for "independent" and "loner" respectively
(I realise "loner" isn't the perfect word in this context, but I can't think of a better one for "someone who generally dislikes social interactions)

[TruthBringer]

I actually have a lot of respect for such women. Given they don't have this modern feminist attitude and mentality. I see myself dating someone like that. Well, that's obvious since I currently am in a relationship with a girl that matches your description lol. And trust me, she is far from 'boring'. I actually enjoy the drama free lifestyle she brings. 1 of the key things necessary for a healthy relationship.

[MannMitAntworten]

The independent part isn’t an issue. Her being aloof could be for some men and a bonus for other men. The part that gets tricky is where auch a woman likes her guy and makes a point to spend time with him and he gets used to this then one day she feels overwhelmed by his being around so much and suddenly feels in doing this she is losing her independence - which she effected - and just ends it one day... which is a common theme with “independent women”. Independent women tend to be fickle and that is a problem.

[winterfox10]

I like the theory of them, but so far the practice hasn't been too appealing. I've gotten tired of being on the receiving end of constant indignation and neglect. It should never be too much to ask someone to invest basic time into you, or have them give some acknowledgement of your effort. Or hey, even ask them to put in some semblance of effort, themselves. Perhaps most frustratingly, me explaining that I would like her to make an intentional effort to spend time with me should never be countered with "I don't owe you my time."

[Bananaman177]

What the fuck CAN a guy think about them?

We never meet them or see them or have anything to do with them because they spend their whole lives hiding from men.

I don't have time to think about them, they're too busy making themselves scarce.

[Asker]

But what is the wrong for someone wants to make themselves scarce? And no need to hide from men to make themselves scarce! I spend my time with some people, but I prefer to spend my time with myself. That's it.

[Bananaman177]

I didn't say it was wrong, you're the only one who seems to think you need to defend your choice.

I don't give a fuck if you hide. Go hide. Stop coming out and asking me what I think about you. I don't think anything about you, fuck off.

[Asker]

Are you the only one on this app? I don't think so. So, I didn't ask you personally about your opinion. You're the one who came here and commented on my post. So, it's your fault not mine.
Next time if you don't like any post you have to skip it not to comment on it. That will help you to lean how to respect yourself then automatically you will know how to respect people. So, start to respect yourself at first. Good luck. =)

[Bananaman177]

Lady, my opinion is mine, not anybody else's.

Unlike you, I don't pretend to speak for anyone else besides myself.

[TallJess]

Just because you don't find us doesn't mean we don't exist!

[Bananaman177]

@TallJess Maybe unicorns exist, but I don't give a fuck, do I?

[TallJess]

Unicorns? Guys who want us and not whores are the unicorns.

[Bananaman177]

@TallJess It's not that good guys are rare, it's just that they're completely invisible to you. You probably walk right past hundreds or thousands every day and never even know they're there.

[TallJess]

@bananaman177 no they are not. I am dating one in fact.

[Cozzy81]

When I find one that actually is I'll gladly tell you. Until then all I can say is yes I'd date one it's nice to have someone with a brain and not chasing the 🍆 or my money and can hold her own with or without me. So sick of leeches and bimbos but that's just what I've encountered.

[t-8900]

They are only boring if they are too career focused and not opened to changing and adapting to different living situations. When we are out on a date or if we are together it needs to be about US. Communication, physical contact, close proximity, these keep a relationship solid.

[Lostgirl02]

I make $70k a year in a rural town, and my ex boyfriend was a deadbeat leach who lived off me. All these men talking about how women aren’t independent... yeah it’s because they date bimbos who count on their looks to get by. I guess lucky for me I was never pretty so I had to make my own way, but at least all these jerks can kiss my ass because my ass because they’re good for nothing but 🍆, and frankly I can o that better myself too.

[Voodoo_Rose]

That sounds perfect, the kind that has to be friends with everyone but not actually know them deeply, is just your cliche club chick. And if it also means that she is the major bread maker of the house, well then hand me the skirt and ill damn well make sure the giant house she bought is clean, with dinner ready and a smile.

[Thatismyanswersowhat]

Woman are only useful for cleaning cooking and raised kids changing daipers. A woman should never become president CEO or head store manager none only school teachers thats it not even a school principal only a man should be school principal. It upsets me when a woman makes more money the me ir drives a better car then me.

[Alex_988_2]

I liked your opinion. But would you like to tell why so?

[CindyRuns]

Nothing better than a Smart, Strong and Independent woman !!!

One who is both an equal to her man and at the same time makes him better being part of his life !!!

[007kingifrit]

humans did not evolve to be independent. being independent is a sign that you are a loser. you're supposed to depend on a man just as a man is supposed to depend on you. men and women evolved to compliment eachother, not compete with eachother

this is why feminists end up so miserable. they are fighting human nature

[Warmapplecrumble]

I agree

[bamesjond0069]

Yeah i wouldn't want a relationship with someone independent. Just think about the meaning of the words. Relationship is someone you can depend on and independent means you dont need anyone. So in my experience its a waste of time with independent girls, they make shitty girlfriends.

[Asker]

But independent doesn't mean that they wouldn't be able to be in a relationship!
So, do you prefer a woman who doesn't make and spend her money or who doesn't have her own place?

[bamesjond0069]

Exactly. How does her having money and her own place make the relationship better? That means the relationship isn't serious and just for casual fun.

[Asker]

I don't think it's an enough reason for a casual fun relationship. Maybe you just don't like strong women.

[bamesjond0069]

Its not that I dont LIKE "Strong women". It is that they are useless for a serious relationship because they aren't stronger than me so they still are in the feminine role as far as im concerned.

Yet they suck at doing woman things that I actually need help with compared to a NOT-"strong woman". So they don't really have anything to offer except sex and/or use them for money.

Thats why "strong independent" women always seem to be complaining about being used for sex and money. And sex/money is about as casual a relationship as one could have. Its entirely about using someone. I always wonder if independent women want to be loved for being themselves or if they prefer to only have a man simply because they have a vagina and pay a good chuck of bills?

[Asker]

I think you see independent women as a threat for your manhood because your goal in relationship that you want to control not for understanding, respecting and giving and receiving.
So, you're totally talking about different thing.

[bamesjond0069]

Independent literally means bad for relationships. If you dont need me for anything and I don't need you for anything what is the point? How is that a threat to my manhood that I want someone useful and not someone who is redundant? Just seems like only an idiot would want something serious with someone redundant and unnecessary with nothing to add.

[TallJess]

Having her own money means more money for the couple. How is that not a good thing?

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess but more money isn't the most important thing. I think being materialistic is bad. I make 6 figures so say a woman makes 40k per year... what does that add to my life? Not really anything. However her being absent 40 hours a week greatly detracts from my experience of our relationship.

[TallJess]

You are also absent when you work.
Besides what of she makes 5 or 6 figures like you? More money is always better. Give you more possibilities in life.
That way she doesn't have to be asking for money all the time.
Of you get sick and unable to work you will still have a source of income.
See? All advantages and insurance.

[TallJess]

But I wonder...
If she makes the same as you. Would you consider to be the one that doesn't work?

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess well if im working and she's not she can take care of grocery shopping, house, kids, errands... you think i want to work and then come home and have hours and hours of more tasks to do? Hell no. You think she wants to work a full day and come home to hours and hours of tasks to do? Id bet not. I mean do you like the sound of that? Sounds like hell to me.

More money is better but like i said im not greedy and materialistic. Its definitely not the most important thing. Not even close.

The amount of women who make 6 figures compared to men is almost none so you're talking about dream land. If she made more than me then i could think about it. However I've never even met a woman who made close to what i make who isn't like really old or married or something so it doesn't seem realistic of a scenario id have to consider.

[TallJess]

There are more men that make that money, yes. But there are plenty of women who make that amount also.
Still if you said you would consider it if she make more you are not the sexist I thought you were.

That's what literally everyone else does. The work outside of the house is done by both and the world at home is also done by both. Since today women make most of college graduates men will for sure have to divide the home work or do it all.

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess or just not be with an independent career woman... seems like the simplest easiest way to solve the problem. I have a traditional girlfriend who takes care of all that stuff for me.

If i couldnt find a traditional girl, id just not have a girlfriend. It would be far easier to do everything on my own and just fuck hos as far as women are concerned.

[TallJess]

Those women are just a overpriced maid/whore.

You clearly only think women are good for that.

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess yeah but the career girl is simply a wallet and isn't around to clean or fuck nearly as much. Ill stick with my traditional girl because im not a money grubber.

[TallJess]

You mean she has a life besides you. You can have money, but she can't.
You know that any girl in that situation would be afraid to leave you because she would have no money and no job right?

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess its very sad you think a career is having a life. Independent women always have this attitude. Work is for poor people and losers in my opinion. Thats why i am an investor. My ass doesn't go to work some 9 to 5 job. I got a life to live!

And this begs the obvious... why the fuck do i care if she cheats and i throw her ass out or she just up and leaves one day its kinda her problem not mine. And if she's very concerned about those circumstances we obviously dont have a relationship from the beginning.

[TallJess]

You talk like everyone could be an investor. The human kind would not survive just with those. I guess you consider the people who actually do something productive to society are losers.

I mean what if YOU wake up one day and decide to dump her, just because you feel like it. She would have nothing then. What kind of person would want that situation?

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess i wouldn't. Thats why i wouldn't do it? And anyone could be an investor. If i was a girl i wouldn't even bother and id be a housewife for sure instead of waste my time on some dumb job.

[TallJess]

Again people who actually do something productive for society are not losers.

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess or so you say. From my perspective a good housewife is priceless and someone like you is worth exactly the amount on your paycheck.

[TallJess]

@bamesjond0069 I am all a housewife is and more honey.

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess y'all say this. Maybe you never seen a real housewife in action. You spend 40 hours working. She spends 40 hours doing the house. Its not possible. She cooks full meals for every meal. House is always spotless. My clothes are always clean and put away. She grows tons of vegatables at home and keeps it all watered and growing. She writes thank you notes to everyone who gives us things or invites us places (which is a lot). She organizes all the mail does all the shopping etc etc. And its all done right on time. Like laundry is done every day for example which is not the same as a working woman who maybe does it once or twice a week.

[TallJess]

No housewife actually works that many hours. They only have to clean in the morning and spend the rest of the day doing nothing.

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess well thats where you're mistaken. My girlfriend does everything i just mentioned. And i work from home often and she stays busy doing this stuff all day most of the time.

[TallJess]

Or she is cheating on you with her free time.

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess lol 😆 someones salty

[TallJess]

No just wondering

[bamesjond0069]

@TallJess i doubt it. Since she's always free i fuck her 3 or sometimes more times a day.

[TallJess]

Three times a day?
I have been trolled!

[AmeerX]

Independent woman has a negative connotation in my country as these women claim to be independent but they are actually sex workers and prostitutes majorly.

I do like your description of independent woman. I think it is pretty fine what you do. Don't you like to be in a relationship and form a family? You do seem a family oriented person

[CoolGuyJoe]

There's a reason she doesn't have many people around. I'm not going to try to change that by trying to enter her world unless she shows me that she's interested in me.

[Asker]

So, you will wait her to make the first move?

[Msgaïj]

I think a lot of guys are in the same thoughts

[CoolGuyJoe]

I'm paying attention to her mannerisms and if she seems like she wants to be single then I'll respect that.

[Asker]

Aha, I understand you.

[Berethor]

Usually women who claim to be independent are not truly independent, Anita Sarkeesian for example.

[finallylettinggo]

I would love to have a relationship with a woman like that, the only problem is finding one since i am very similar. Hard to meet someone when you stay more to yourself unfortunately.

[Douglas76]

Not boring, just settled and probably set in her ways. An independent woman shows strength and capability of building a strong home and family. This day and age an independent woman is greatly valued and appreciated

[bluetoblack99]

If she isn’t holding up a sign saying “I’m a independent woman! Look at me!” then I really like her. I have a lot more respect for them than some copycat useless “socialite” airhead who is devoid of original thought or self reliance.