Why do some women (not all, there are some great parents/ women out there) expect special treatment just because she let some guy creampie her?
Like skipping queues, people being expected to give up their seats etc - If you decided to have a kid, that's your own fault - No one owes you anything and you're definitely not more important 🤷🏼♀️
But why? Why should I stand up for a woman who has made the decision to have kids, if say, I've just worked a 12h shift? And how would anyone know I'm able-bodied, since it would be rude to ask or assume? Having kids doesn't automatically make her more deserving, first come, first serve in my opinion
You obviously are the one who knows whether you're able bodied. But obviously SOMEONE will be. Don't be silly- no one is going to ask you. You do it voluntarily. And you're 26 years old- when I was 47, I walked several miles in a hilly area to get home, sometimes after working 16 hours.
It may also be a more efficient use of space if the public transportation is crowded if the mother has a small child on her lap. And if the baby is crying, she may have to hold it to soothe it.
But that is her own issue? No one elses? No one on that public transport made her have those Children?
Why should someone else have to 'pay' because some random woman decided to have a kid?
And I don't just mean men, I mean everyone. No one should have to stand for a woman just because she decided to have kids.
A person will automatically get judged if they don't stand for a pregnant woman, or a woman with kids but why? Back to my point, why is the woman more deserving simply because she has kids? No one else knows the reasons why someone else is sat down or why they don't stand up - So the pregnant woman shouldn't automatically be more deserving of that space.
You are simply helping someone out in a way that doesn't inconvenience you but assists her greatly.
As far as a pregnant woman goes, you should simulate sometime what it's like to carry that weight around with a ball under a loose jersey. And do it with one or two small kids accompanying you.
Surely someone has had to help you out with something sometime, right?
If I was a woman and about to have kids, I would make sure I was prepared, I wouldn't expect people to stand up for me just because I decided to have kids
Elderly person? Sure, they didn't choose to be born themselves, they don't choose to get old, I'll stand up
I'm not standing up for someone simply because they've made the choice to have kids
Especially when most of them feel entitled to use the wheelchair spaces on public transport, when that isn't even for them.
@sunnysmith. Bingo. I would do the chivalrous thing if I thought women actually appreciated it and didn't automatically EXPECT it. Women have become so used to white knights and simps coming out of the wood work that they don't appreciate when a man sacrifices for them.
No, prepared as in If I get on public transport, I understand no one owes me their seat if it's full, that's the chance I take with PT, I'm prepared to stand if there aren't any seats available.
Women with children or even men with children need to be prepared to stand if there aren't any seats available. If they're not prepared for that, they shouldn't be getting on PT they need to find another alternative in which they know they'll get to sit down.
Most public transport has places for wheelchairs and spaces at the front for elderly - So if you're sat in a place that isn't yours, you expect to move.
If I'm sat in a normal seat - I will not stand just because someone has children. If they make a childzone/ pregnant seats and I'm sat there, I will move but until then, no - first come, first serve.
@KrakenAttackin I honestly don't get it, they're incredibly entitled.
I had one come on with a pram once and she expected them to kick this guy in a wheelchair off so she could use the space for her baby & pram 🤦🏼♀️
Or when they get on, see it's full so just make eye contact with you, expecting you to move and then start tutting if you don't - Like it ain't my issue you decided to have kids lol.
Well, I have never seen anyone force someone in a wheelchair to move, least of all a person with a stroller.
No idea how it works where you live, but in Munich, to give an example I'm familiar with, there is an area on the right side of buses for a wheelchair and one on the left side of a bus (middle entrance) for strollers which can fit up to three of them (usually only filled during trips to the zoo). The strollers do indeed have priority there, so it's possible that what you encountered was the person with the stroller knowing they had by law or regulation the right to that spot.
Respecting rules and looking out for others does not make one a "simp". Lord knows there is plenty of simp-like behavior out there, but looking out for people with strollers is not one of them. Incidentally, sometimes it's fathers, babysitters or other relatives who are the ones traveling with the strollers.
No, what I encountered was a mother expecting a wheelchair user to move out of the wheelchair space.
We usually do have a space for 1 pram but that's it and it isn't legally their space either - The rest have to be folded and put into a holding area or they have to wait for the next one - This space is also for the elderly to use and I'd never expect them to move for someone with kids and the majority don't.
That's very different than what I experienced in Munich. No wheelchair user should be expected to move, nor should an elderly person who's seated.
The reason there was a place set aside for strollers was that otherwise they'd block the doors, which is definitely not allowed and would be a huge safety hazard.
Unfortunately the majority (again not all some are great and understanding and I'll happily move for them when they're not automatically expecting people too) here just expect everyone and anyone to move for them, that I won't stand for and I refuse to move for them and I don't feel like anyone should move for them. Maybe that explains it better
while they don't get special treatment nor should they do not disparage mothers. the mass production of children is the mass production of the soldiers, workers, and taxpayers of tomorrow
the planet is not overpopulated, africa and asia are. you want to distribute free birth control to the savagers? fine. we need more soldiers, workers, and taxpayers
very few people end up being harmful to society, we don't form rules by "could" we form rules based on "probably"
Okay so what about the multiple people you'd be making have kids that aren't suitable to have kids? How many kids do you think end up in abusive households? You'd rather them have kids over not because we need more workers?
Having children is nothing special, there are more people than jobs available - my point still stands, we as a human race do not currently need every single person on the planet to have children - the fact that we have homeless, unemployed, full prisons prove that.
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