How do you feel about women who live a luxurious lifestyle on someone else's funds?

[Kayla45]

[Xoxocutekitty]

To be honest a little envious. Lol. There's this girl from college who completely remade herself, got Instagram hot, probably plastic surgery and dated sugar daddies until she finally just ended up in the 'right' social circle of high end influencers, young investors, and rich Millenials. After 2-3 years she finally met a nice, smart, rich boyfriend who gets on with her family. He's teaching her how to invest properly and now she's halfway into being 'one of them filthy rich folks.' and she's making serious generational wealth for herself and her family.

In 2-3 years I've worked some shit dead end jobs, I've job hopped into a finally middle class comfortable salary and I'm in a steady committed relationship. My life is good. But it is mind boggling to think that some people really do 'make it big.'

Now,, while I occasionally envy the fancy trips and private jets, I don't particularly want to go through her journey and sell myself to possibly 'make it'. I don't hate her either. it is fascinating (perhaps voyeuristic) to watch. At the end of the day, we all want love and the ability to provide for our families, even if they're rich or poor

[Aerissa_Jade]

It depends, how is it set up? Is this a consensual thing? or is she forcing it.

One could say Child support is forced to live off someone else, I know people who have kids with different guys just to get child support from each one to live off, rarely spending it on the kids as they do not want to work.

Alimony could also be considered living off someone else, or is it a mutually agreed upon sugar daddy/baby arrangement?

Some could even say those lawsuit seeking individuals that find every reason to sue to win money are living off someone else's funds.

Personally if its a mutually agreed upon situation, that is their choice but if someone is using the system to 'take' from others, that is where I am hesitate and think it isn't so good.

[molonski2]

I think the example of the child support , not used on the child because " they dont want to work " is an example of a serious leach , and to any males out considering always exclude any woman with children from more than one man , she is just trouble , why did she get pregnant? Id suggest because she is very lazy , and its a way out. PLUS , if Im paying for one , and the other guy doesn't may for 6 months , Im not providing indirect funds to the other blokes kid , just horrendous actions.

As for Alimony , not followed in many parts of the world ( thank god for logic ) , that is simply unrealistic taxation , she's a big leach also. What a JOKE ! that system is , completely idiotic.

The sugar baby? well thats fine , because can just be cut off , fair enough.

[Anonymous]

Mmm... If it were me, I would likely want each person getting their luxuries with their own funds unless it is on birthdays and gift giving events.

But if there is some kind of thing that is set in place where this woman who is enjoying a luxurious lifestyle on another persons money but she is doing things for the partner deserve it, depending on the need of the partner but as long as they are doing their part, this could be like if the other partner is often too unorganised with things and may need help with it while they are working, or cleaning, cooking, all these things are often things that the other partner don't find time for as often if they are working as well.

I didn't include sexual services because while it is one that exists, I don't really feel like it is one that people often feel good knowing that ties a relationship.

Maybe the only thing the partner wants is someone to come back to and enjoy the company of, maybe they don't expect anything from you and want someone who can help make them feel less lonely when they enter their home, different relationships have different needs and if someone living a luxurious life on that money fulfils those needs then I guess it is okay.

[kyleelyn199723]

Usually with relationships like that, there's even transactions going on. The guy provides the money, while the lady provides the looks. That’s on them. I don’t prefer a relationship like this as they only like being around each other for superficial reasons, but that’s on them. She’s the beauty, and he’s her wallet. Perfect match

[msc545]

Women who do this tend to be very manipulative and prone to cheating as well. No thanks

[kyleelyn199723]

@msc545 just because it’s not your preference, doesn’t mean it’s not other mens preferences. Males in relationships like that tend to cheat as well. It’s a transactional relationship. He’s for her beauty and she is for his wallet. They deserve each other

[msc545]

I understand some men have a preference for it, which goes to show how effective manipulation by women can be.

[kyleelyn199723]

@msc545 I think a man throwing his money around for women is just as manipulative. You are going way too hard trying to only blame women for things

[msc545]

Good point. I'm not sure men are always guilty of "throwing money around" but some do. I've never thrown my money around or even talked about it and still I get approached by women who want this kind of relationship. Some women are very proactive in finding men who have money, visible or not.

[kyleelyn199723]

@msc545 from my personal experience of working at a strip club as a bartender, men get manipulative with money. No matter if they are even rich. It got to the point where a man literally made me kiss him just so he would pay for his drinks, not even to tip. I am not insinuating that women aren’t manipulative and the strippers were easily manipulative in their own ways there, but yeah money is power to a lot of men

[msc545]

I think you are right about money being power to a lot of men, and demonstrably, to a lot of women. That said, I think women behave and dress much differently in bars and clubs than they do in the hotels of Beverly Hills, even though these are the same women.

[kyleelyn199723]

@msc545 honestly I was probably the one innocent girl in the building and still got manipulated by the men that walked in there.

[msc545]

I don't think innocence protects against that, and it may very well make it more likely. You were an easy target.

[kyleelyn199723]

@msc545 I probably was because I was one of the younger ones, but that doesn’t mean men don’t use money to manipulate in general. Not all of them. But a lot do. Most cases have even exchange, but not at all the time. A relationship where a woman uses a man for money , there is definitely even exchange going on

[msc545]

I really disagree with your last sentence.

[kyleelyn199723]

@msc545 you might disagree with it, because you don’t agree with relationships like that, but a man that is so caught up on looks on a woman that he will throw money at her to keep her as a trophy wife would agree. Why do you think majority of higher ups wives aren’t on their same level of money , but are society’s Standard of beautiful?

[msc545]

a man that is so caught up on looks on a woman that he will throw money at her to keep her as a trophy wife has no choice but to agree.

[kyleelyn199723]

@msc545 exactly.

[Nomoturtle]

That's most women isn't it? Depending on how you frame it with other factors, good and bad.

Someone supportive that helped create those funds? Great. Someone that divorced out of boredom or something similar and gets "child support" money to "maintain her standard of living"? Trash. Someone that marries exclusively for money? I don't know, I guess it's a transaction rather than a relationship at that point. Indifferent, but I don't respect them much. I hope their money keeps them happier than it does most others.

I don't think it's usually any of the above though, most husbands want to provide for their wives, and most wives want to be pandered to. It's technically similar to the gold-digger situation, but the significant difference is that its material means for relational ends.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I believe she was talking about sugar babes not divorcees. Unless you divorced a very rich person you won't have a luxurious life out a divorce.

[Nomoturtle]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I mentioned them too.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

But in that case the men know very well what they are doing. They are not dumb. They chose to pay for their sugar babies

[Nomoturtle]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yes. I said that; It's a transaction. Did you even read it?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Missed the part about sugar babies apparently. My bad.

[AncientWisdom]

I grew up poor raised by a poor woman. Who worked hard to raise 5 kids by herself. I worked hard and still do as much as I’m able I’m getting older and slowing down. I’m worth maybe a half mil after all that hard work. So that being said I do not care for lazy no account people. Nor should anyone else. That same female is going to hit a wall called biology and will get desperate for a husband and she will ensnare some dumb mook she will bare a baby or two then she will get rid of him and collect his assets basically enslaving him through the court system. That’s where these kind of women end up after their looks fail them. Hence my smart ass remained a bachelor 👊

[globetrotter22]

If some SAP enables them and they take advantage of it than so be it. But really what does this say about “women’s rights” huh? Nobody would respect me if I leeched off a sugar mama. Vagina or not nobody should respect you.

Also I don’t want you to hear you complain about being “controlled” by this guy. Especially if you live in a western county. You voluntarily signed up to be an extended hooker. You take everything that comes with it.

I think some lonely guys have this arrangement vs. getting occasional hookers because they want to appear more legitimate in society. They also can also get a young/hot women when it would be impossible otherwise.

Also as said earlier these guys want complete control over the woman. But either way the woman made a decision to participate in this arrangement vs actually working and supporting herself which is more than possible in 1st world countries.

[Anonymous]

Typically, they're gold diggers who are only in it for the lifestyle and money. TBH, I don't have a lot of respect for women like that. They are using the men they are with (unless it's some sort of sugar daddy/baby agreement), and I don't have a lot of respect for anyone who thinks they're too good to earn their keep in a respectable manner, either (i. e. working, being a stay at home mom, etc.).

I don't like anyone who feels entitled to another person's money, especially when they are fully capable of producing their own (or taking care of the house and kids in exchange for it).

[Bergundy]

To be honest I kinda blame the guy who spoils her.
My marriage was 50/50 for the most part, I sure didn't wanna be valued for money.
A different guy I know is all about money and status. He and his wife don't even have sex according to him, all he cares about is work, being the boss, and showing off really.
She just stays with him for the money, she tells me he's an asshole.

[kyleelyn199723]

Thank you for being a guy that doesn’t blame the woman entirely for relationships that those. People don’t understand that relationships like those are usually transactional and are an even exchange.

[Bergundy]

@kyleelyn199723
Yeah I agree. I know a lot of guys who think money is everything. They think guys that don't have money are losers, but they don't understand that having a hot trophy wife who's only with him for his money isn't really an accomplishment, or something to be proud of.
To be honest when I was 20 I was working as a janitor. I met a really cute girl at a party and we moved in together. I was extremely proud that she loved me even though I had nothing.
Some of these other "Transactional relationships" as you put it, are just surface level, and only last as long as the money's there.

[dowser19]

Actually, most women I see now under 40 are doing that. Various scams, premium SC, sugar daddies, etc. I've met a grand total of...2... women in the last several years who graduated from a good school with a degree (biology) making their own way legit. That's 2 out of tens of thousands (I don't count high schoolers working jobs while still living with parents). I don't have an issue with how they make their funds... it's their attitude towards people in public. You're a leetch, not Mother Teresa, it is what is. Vegas hookers at least are respectful and self aware enough to not go around telling everyone they're Molly Mormon.🙄

[TsAubreyKate]

To some degree it’s admirable only if you’re married and its someone you really love and they really love you my great grandmother doesn’t know how to fill out a job application she has a 3rd grade education and no skills beyond homemaking she never needed to work because my great grandfather worked several jobs to take care of her and all 13 of their children she is the oldest living relative I have because she has never worked a day in her life and never will because she found a man who she loved and loved her enough to do it for her she basically retired at 19 and she is fucking loaded

[Prettygurl12]

There is honor, dignity, and integrity in working and earning your own money. So... if you don't earn money through honesty work (and no, being a sugar baby isn't honest work) then you lack honor, dignity, and integrity in my mind and people who lack those characteristics are, at their core, not good people so...

[Diodoro]

I've benefited from girls who did and gifted me with shit using another guys resources. So I'm pretty agnostic on the subject. I wouldn't want to be the guy paying it but he wouldn't pay if he wasn't getting something he considers more valuable than that money.

So 🤷‍♂️. in my opinion the moment you become that guy in the girls eyes she will never respect you

[Anonymous]

It depends. I see no problem with that if she works hard at home to make the home nice and take care of the kids. I actually know a family like that where the husband/father owns a business and earns a very high income and the wife/mother is not employed, per se. But she works her ass off taking care of the kids, going to all their plays and sports events, making their house beautiful and cooking super healthy food for the family. They are a great little family and I envy what they have. It's like the ideal scenario for a family and raising kids in my opinion.

Now, if she is just loafs around and spends money, that's a different story. I mean, if the guy is cool with it and she is meeting all of his needs, I see nothing wrong with it, but I also don't have much respect for her.

[RosesAreRed2020]

That it’s funny when they think they’re at a level they’re not. Me for example, I worked on Wall Street during undergrad for internships and am now into my 2nd job out of school at one of the top Bulge Bracket investment banks. I see how seriously f^cking hard it is to make this kind of money and it isn’t easy AT ALL. I get frustrated by people who don’t understand the concept of money and think using manipulation to get by makes them a winner.
I am completely self made from my earnings and I come from a single mom who made minimum wage. In just 2 years I’m at a size 2, bought my own show horses, have a penthouse, and own a lot of luxury goods and am a member at a high end gym. I also mentor other women in the field. All through hard ass work.
Trust me I feel happy when other people succeed, it’s just not as attractive when you see how some of them obtained it.

[all_hayl]

in the end, God knows our motives and will give appropriate justice.

“Be assured that your sins will find you out”. Numbers 32:23

”It is mine to avenge. I will repay.” Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 12:19, Hebrews 10:30

”Man judges outward appearance, but God judges the heart.” 1 Samuel 16:7.

[Novacane]

Personally, I never judge, those people technically won in life, growing up in poverty I never cared about what people do to get by in life because there are people out there who do a lot worst, does that make it right who knows but they are just taking advantage of their opportunities

[jennifer_bloom]

I know a lot of rich people with clinical depression because it’s character that brings happiness and without character, you can’t appreciate what you have. Look at trump, he’s a billionaire but hates everyone, and you can’t be happy if your full of anger and bitterness inside. It’s also extremely rare for a rich person to be both virtuous and happy, usually one or both are sacrificed if they did not earn their wealth.

[LostInDespair]

Unfortunately, all attractive and/or decent-looking women (especially those who are human and aren't some boring, soulless, hobbyless corporate drones) are like this, and the only ones who can't do it are ugly women, which is why all non-rich post-college women are repulsive corporate drones and said repulsive women are the only ones we can talk to after college.

[Adam1978]

Horrible people really it's the opposite what a woman should be. But it's not my problem because I wouldn't let anyone do that. But anyone idolize this kind of behavior are fools. They don't look at the whole picture and are just greedy.

[libsaretards]

I'm against it. However, I do not fault them. These women had enough brains to learn that someone will be their cash cow. Why would anyone work for their money when someone will give them everything they want? The ones to blame are those who feed these women the money. Stop their money train and they would have to actually work for their money.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I think it's horrible, I remember this family the father was a coal miner but he made good money but this woman was a housewife made a comment that she loved Ed
but if he didn't have money, she wouldn't be with him so yes it's crazy, she married
him for money, the one daughter had special shoes for every day, she also had
special dresses too, she wouldn't be friends with my sister cause we was poor.

[Roguehoneylife]

I think you do you , as long as you’re not hurting anyone.

If a woman uses someone for their money and that person isn’t aware? That’s scummy af.
But if they’re aware and clearly don’t care? Go little rockstar

[David_Kek]

It makes me think about what Ali Wong said about it;
"A lot of my friends, when we walk around together, they’ll get very judgmental about housewives that we’ll see on the street. And they’ll be like, “Look at that fucking housewife. Not doing anything. Look at that housewife, just walking around all day, getting massages in her Lululemon pants.” I’m like, “That bitch is a genius.” “She’s not a housewife, she’s retired.”"

[Johnagain]

Big kids. Not responsible for their own merit or status and unfairly by-passed the hard work and ingenuous route for achievement. Barbie Doll needing a Sugar Daddy. It can work for some, but I despise it. The danger to me is some of the fine girls that a guy like myself would hit on might think that all of us other males out here are not worthy of their interest or respect and that's not the case with me... So... since it ain't all about money, grow up.

[ohshee]

That's what life is all about is to work your ass off so your partner and yourself could have a good life and live good I don't think there's anything wrong with it

[Anonymous]

"There's a sucker born every minute"
Those relationships dont last unless he's old af. When she gets older he'll tire of her and move onto a fresh model. So in the meantime, she can use him for his own shallowness. They're both shallow so who honestly cares?

[whosnumber1]

when they feel that it's owed to them because they are attractive and loose sight of the important things in life I detest them. when they are a wife or girlfriend that contributes to the family unit and helps keep the balance and uses their financial status to help others - good

[molonski2]

So very many leaches out there , they are a disgrace , money grubbing gold diggers , and may karma strike them down , seriously disgusting.

[HighValue]

Not sure about "luxurious" but the majority of women are living their lifestyle on someone else's funds. Even a lot of the ones that work just use the money they earn as spending money and expect the man to cover the necessity living expenses.

[Anonymous]

Gross. Makes me wary of women tbh. Women’s sexuality is very strange.
I’d prefer not to be with a girl who cares about that stuff, and I discourage it in others. Just because two people might be willing to live like that doesn’t mean it’s not abusive.

[Wester1967]

Degenerate Sh*t. My step mom divorce raped my dad. Living high on the hog. She's just a stupid fkn whore basically. Doesn't count as human in my book. My dad pooched the screw hooking up with such a miserable strag.

[xHoneyxBeex]

I think it's sad and I would hate to completely rely on another person to fund my lifestyle. I'd much rather be self-sufficient and able to be financially independent.

[TheUniqueOne96]

If she and her partner agree to it beforehand, you do you, but if she's just straight up using him for that, it's trashy, just like if a guy were to do it.

[England4eva]

If someone else wants to pay for someone else’s lifestyle this is their business and their decision. If this makes them happy Its not my life so I cannot dispute it.

[Anonymous]

It depends. Is this a woman who uses men and manipulates them to get funds? I don’t support it. If you’re talking about a housewife where both parties agree that she stays home and he takes care of her, I have no problem with it. I’m a little envious of housewives. 😊

[FilmGuy93]

Good for them! Seriously, what the hell? She has the opportunity to live a high price tag lifestyle, so why not? Life is short.

[slatyb]

That’s between the woman and her benefactor. It happens all the time — women marry wealthy men and stop working.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I feel the way i feel about guys who fuck around. Both of them decide the easy path and so do exactly what their instincs want them to do instead of having self-control

[Sarahr123]

It’s tacky af. I pay for all my own shit and always will.

[FreyaRed]

Some things don't last forever and those girls don't think beyond tomorrow.

[275153]

Why would it matter what I thought of her. If she’s ok with it and he’s ok with it, who the hell am I to judge them?

[Nik1hil]

Well as long as the guy is getting good amount of Sex out of it the way he wants and when he wants..

It's cool

[Staximus]

If it's not causing the other person financial hardship and they are willing to support this kind of lifestyle, that's their business. Doesn't effect my life.

[FunkyMonkee]

They're just gold diggers!! Basically, high class hookers.

[Not_Average]

If they’re a full time mom and/or support their husband, then there’s nothing wrong with it.

[Heartache0405]

Its frustrating. Pretty sure they wouldn't like it if it were the other way around.

[Rizwan_khan]

They are good diggers, pathetic, selfish and prejudice Person they have no love for men but only for money

[Subarugirl]

If that’s what the man wants how is that like anything you described?

[Rizwan_khan]

Don't take it personal I have seen so many women who marry rich guys only for money and I'm not including all women I just wrote my answer

[Anonymous]

I see them as worthless leeches and parasites no more no less. Their only value is in their looks, which when that is over, they are in for a harsh wakeup call. Pathetic..

[Melanin_royalty]

As long as everyone involved is aware of the situation then I love it for them!! Same with men who live luxury off of other peoples funds. Live your best life!!

[moonpie89]

Slightly jealous but also sad for the person's money they're using.

[Anonymous]

So you mean ALL WOMEN? literally women need men to help them get around in world yet they'll pretend to be independent it's pathetic and weak, women will always look for men to support them in any way possible.

[Paul09]

Lol I worry about that when I went in dates. OK I have to pay for everything, if we continue dating do I keep paying? No thank you.

[Honestguyopen]

I don't really think about it. But it is nice if they are also generous with what they have with others and not just themselves.

[Anonymous]

it won't last forever and when that ends they will have no money of their own. kinda sad.

[Anonymous]

Well, prostitution is the world's oldest profession, they say.

[clampfan101]

Depends on if they’re a gold digger or not. Not every girl with a rich partner is.

[Kingofkings1992]

They’re worthless wastes of oxygen who will eventually get theirs. Whatever, I don’t concern myself with them.

[Anonymous]

I think it's why a lot of women want to get married lol

[InferiorElegy]

I think they're gold diggers and would not even give them the time of day..

[NathanDavis]

you mean politicians? I never vote for them

[Better_off_here]

they are not someone i want to be with or know. they make me mad to be honest with you!