How come girls say they want more emotional men but refuse to date effeminate men?

[chris_987]

That would be like me saying I want a more masculine chick but still going after feminine women.

They're definitely not good at problem solving

[inhua]

actions speak louder than words. don't listen to what women say, observe what they do

feminism is full of contradictions designed to led unwary men astray who choose to foolishly follow its doctrine

Will Smith was emotional and got cheated on by Jada Pinkett Smith

Scottie Pippen was emotional and got cheated on by Larsa Pippen

Robert Pattinson got rid of an obsessed fangirl by inviting her to a date and then he scared her away by being emotional

more often than not, it's emotional effeminate men who get cheated on and rejected in favor of stoic bad boys whom women choose or cheat with

emotional men sound great on paper but don't work out in practice and there's evolutionary reasons behind it. emotional men are likely to be more violent and abusive when they can't control their emotions. stoic men can control their emotions thus are less likely to be violent or abusive

the flip side is stoic men are less forgiving of infidelity even though some women instinctively believe these men are more forgiving because no emotions means they don't care about being cheated on thus can likely cheat on him without needing to fear repercussions had he been emotional instead. emotional men are more forgiving of infidelity thus they cheated on more

[DextroShade]

What women claim to want and what they show they actually want with their choices are rarely the same. They will claim to want a sensitive caring guy while they waste their best years getting fucked and chucked by dudes who wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

[Anonymous]

We don't want guys who are emotional, but we want them to feel free to show their emotions sometimes like when a family member dies of something.

[chris_987]

Why not just get a guy that's built that way from the start?

[Opinion Owner]

Built what way?

[chris_987]

Feminine

[Opinion Owner]

Why would I want a feminine guy?

[chris_987]

So he can be emotionally available

[Opinion Owner]

So you think it's feminine for a guy to show some emotion when his mother dies in a car crash?

[chris_987]

Extreme don't count use your brain, don't females cry when they break a nail

[Opinion Owner]

Go back and reread my original response.

[chris_987]

I'm still not understanding what your point was

[kylee2437]

Because emotions aren’t just a feminine trait. If I wanted to date someone that is more feminine, I’d just date a woman

[chris_987]

But if you want dick and emotions, logically your would choose a feminine man.

[kylee2437]

@chris_987 identify feminine though, because I don’t want a man that sits back and watches me pull the weight , etc I just want a man that knows he can express himself without it getting thrown in his face

[chris_987]

Well I'm strictly talking about emotional needs. If a woman is crying and she wants comfort. But the guy doesn't give comfort, let's say during the marriage. And she begins to be upset with him. I say that she Is dumb for not choosing a guy that was InTouch with his emotions during the dating stage. But instead of women do the opposite and choose the guy that's emotionally distant and expecting him to change later on down in the relationship.

[kylee2437]

@chris_987 being emotionally unavailable is not a masculine trait, it’s called being unsupportive and it doesn’t make for a long lasting carrying relationship. Women have the capability of being emotionally unavailable as well.

[kylee2437]

Caring relationship*

[chris_987]

I never said being emotionally distant was a masculine trait. I was saying that women choose men who they have to change. They don't choose men that they don't have to change. You guys like a project or choosing the difficult route instead of the easy one.
Guys at the opposite we choose a girl hoping she doesn't change.

[kylee2437]

@chris_987 that sounds like a different argument than what you first pitched though. You are diving into men that are emotionally unavailable. I think In that sense, both parties are to blame. Sure a person shouldn’t be pushing another to change, but a person should also be mature enough not to get into a relationship if they can’t show up for a partners needs. It goes both ways.

[chris_987]

So do you think that women choose men who are emotionally unavailable and are surprised that they are still that way later in life.

And if so, why do very feminine men get disrespected by women?

[kylee2437]

So again I addressed this, while he’s women are at fault for choosing emotionally unavailable men, emotionally unavailable men should know they aren’t ready for a relationship if they can provide what is needed in a relationship

And define feminine men because I feel like feminine is a broad term. Do you mean men that kick back and are house wives or men that just like to get their nails polished at the nail salon?

[kylee2437]

Whole those*

[kylee2437]

Can’t provide*

[chris_987]

Your promise is false that you need emotional availability to have a relationship. A lot of people just look to have fun and fun doesn't mean emotional availability. So if you want a companion who is fun you can have a relationship. Plenty of people do that and then leave once emotions get involved.

A feminine man is someone that has the same traits in general inclinations that a woman would have. So they might think with their emotions first without using reason. It doesn't have to necessarily mean He's painting his nails. But typically things that we associate with female behavior in a man is what I call a feminine man.

[kylee2437]

Someone that leaves when emotions are involved would be emotionally unavailable.

People get into relationships for different reasons- but I guarantee if you aren’t there for your partners needs regardless of what they are- you definitely won’t be a long term partner for them.

[chris_987]

You believe messed up things about men so I'm over this conversation

[kylee2437]

You don’t even know what you are arguing about is your main issue.

[UniquelyBasic]

They want a guy who is emotionally mature and stable. Nobody wants an overly emotional partner to begin with. Women want to know the guy can express his emotions but also isn't an emotional mess from every little bad thing that happens in his life.

[hahahmm]

At the end of the day... this will only be a problem for guys who are not good at being traditional men. Because a traditional man is not led by women.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Being masculine or feminine does not impact the strength of frequency of emotional reactions.

[chris_987]

I was talking about how women want men that cry and show emotions, but they choose men that do the opposite of that

[TheSpaceGnome]

That doesn't have anything to do with being feminine or masculine.

Everyone cries and shows emotions, who the fuck do you even know who doesn't cry or get upset over anything? I can't even think of a single person. 🤔

Most people are overly emotional, it's logic thats rare, not emotions.

[Anonymous]

Another example of the fact that men should not listen to what women say on issues like this, but instead observe what they actually do. They or typically very different.

[KrakenAttackin]

Any woman who thinks she wants an emotional man is lying to herself. Once again, it is so hard to take women seriously.