Do you feel that post-partum depression or psychosis has become a tiresome and bogus excuse?

[Anonymous]

for condoning women who intentionally murder or harm their own children?

Yes

No

Others

A total of 9 votes were cast: 5 girls and 4 guys. See detailed results

[Chazmatazz269]

I understand and respect that it’s a scientifically recognized condition and it might be right up there with cancer for worst of all time. Can you imagine coming out of any form of psychosis and learning that you k*lled your own kids?
That said, it absolutely IS an overused excuse to let women out of paying for their crimes. It’s also literally a violation of the US Constitution. As we are meant to be equally protected under the law, “PPD” and other similar conditions are used exclusively to defend women from prosecution in US Courts.
“There are rights everyone should have. There are rights no one should have. But there should never be rights only SOME people have.”

[Asker]

Yeah, I'm not denying PPD exists. I'm honestly just sick and tired of seeing people using that as an excuse for women who become hostile and even violently aggressive towards their kids and SOs, especially if the women refused to get help for it in the first place before they start hurting their own loved ones.

[Anonymous]

Absolutely not. You should really listen to the women who have been through this level of trauma---it is absolute hell. They aren't using it as an excuse. God forbid, when it happens, they must undergo psych evaluations to determine their mental state, issues beforehand, any attempts at mental healthcare that were taken prior to the incident(s) etc as courts don't just take her word for it.

It is the same with any suspect in a murder case who claims 'they went insane.' What you're arguing, in a way, is that a mental disorder doesn't exist when this is far from the truth especially when there is so much proof out there that they do. Anything from PTSD homicides to schizophrenic homicide---some people argue the same thing---"why should they be let off for their crime," but talk to the families and friends in these cases, they often note that there was trouble long long before they actually killed someone, rather than just some made up excuse to try to get out of a murder trial. Additionally, if convicted, nowadays suspects are given sentence like murder by way of mental disorder as opposed to suspect is just set free. There is an acknowledgement of both being true.

[alli-112]

Not, they're very serious mental health issues. Dismissing them as "tiresome" and "bogus" mean that people are less likely to seek help to resolve the issue, resulting in more harm from unmitigated disorders to both the woman and the people around her.

[2rushbiOV3]

It’s absolutely not an excuse, but woman’s body goes through during gestation and during childbirth is a hormonal nightmare that involves at least two people; Her and the baby. If you want to know yourself in it, you should do so in a positive way by not saying stuff like this. It is one of very few mental health episodes; that can actually be proven to exist in the first place via a biomarker. There are literally no bio markers for any other mental health disorder on planet earth absolutely none.

[Ariesman81]

I've witnessed a new mother who was convinced her new baby was covered in ants. It was terrifying.

[Razp_Sorbet]

No. It's a very real very scary thing.

[Asker]

Not denying that PPD is a thing. Just that it should still never be an excuse especially if women refuse to get help for it.

[Razp_Sorbet]

It's a touchy subject with a lot of stigma. Getting help for regular old depression is already socially difficult, especially hard with ppd where you're expected to have this natural bond for your baby and want to love and care for them. It's something that needs to be discussed more to make people suffering with it feel okay about getting help, normalize getting help.

[Asker]

So are most mental illnesses in general (are taboo and stigmatized), especially if men are the receiving end of them, yet men get much harsher scorn for taking their mental health issues out on others instead of seeking help (which is also socially stigmatized against men) compared to women.

[Razp_Sorbet]

I mean yeah that's not okay. I feel like social stigmas around mental health need addressing across the board