Things guys hate about being guys

[WhatTheHellAmy]

I'm a girl who got some help from really kind guys. This is what they said:

10. Jail

It's easier for a guy to end up behind bars. Girls go to jail too, but let's be honest, jails are full of testosterone. (I know girls have testosterone too)

9. Yes sir!

Guys gotta be soldiers, it's unfair that they must die for their contries and most girls don't go through this. This is a guy's job. Men fight more wars than women.

8. Don't cry, u faggot!

- Hey hey, what are you doing? Are you crying? Are you gay?

"Boys don't cry, Real men don't cry" What kind of bullshit is that? Yes, they have dicks, but it doesn't mean that they're not humans. Guys should show emotions as much as they want and be real men.
More emotional suppport for them, please!

7. STROOOOONG

- Babe, can you help me with this? I can't open this jar. I'm a girl and I'm not strong enough.
- Honey, my dick doesn't give me superman's powers.
- Oh, okay. Well, can you repair this?
- You think I'm a plumber?
- Gosh!! Is there something you are good at?

I have to be honest, I always ask for help when it comes to streght stuff and it's unfair because not all guys know how to handle tools, come on, it's not just their job.

6. Stereotypes

Guys are harassers, rapists, drug addicts, brute, cheaters, violent, the drunk ones

NO! NOT ALL GUYS ARE LIKE THAT!!!

5. You're the guy, you have to pay

Justice is to pay what you had. But hey, girls have pussy, they can't pay, let's take our wallets out and pay for the whole thing.
Girls, we can make money too, let's be fair and pay for our things, let's be independent.
Guys are the ones who have the responsability to bring food to the table. I'm not saying girls don't do this, plenty of single mothers go through this.

4. Boners

You don't know when girls are horny, with guys is super evident. It happens everywhere, at school, at work, while swimming, when you wake up. It's awkward.

But hey... Boners disappear when you get old! That sucks! Gotta buy viagra and sometimes it is not enough. Poor guys, it's all about the dick.

3. Umm, wanna go out?

Girls ask guys out too, but it's mosly a guys job to do the approaching, they propose and we get to decide. And when a girl goes for it, most of the time they don't get rejected.

Some guys are super shy and the fact that they have to face their fears and ask their crush out sucks.

2. Girls have advantage

The world is falling down, huge hurricane, amazing earthquake, the titanic is drowning, let's save the pussy!!!

1. Trying to understand her

Guys biggest labor is to guess. Guys hate to guess. They can't know what we want because we love drama. Oh guys, I'm so sorry we are so complicated. I really do my best and try to be as simple as possible.

Guys have to figure it out what we are thinking, what we want... We don't even know what we want. Sorry about that.

Honorable Mentions:

A. Virginity

Dude, you lost your virginity, you are my goddamn hero!
Dude, are you virgin? What a loser, you're a faggot.

B. You want what??? I'm the mother and I had the baby!

Guys are dads! Guys can be good mothers too! Some of them deserve to get the child over the mother.

C. Dick size

Guys never know if girls care about size or not. They worry about it!

D. I can hit u 'cause I'm a girl but you can't hit me 'cause you're a guy

A girl hit a guy, nah, not a big deal.
A guy hit a girl. HE'S SO GOING TO HELL!!!

Being a guy hurts too, life is never perfect.

Read this one too so you can know being a girl is not easy either: https://www.girlsaskguys.com/girls-behavior/a10588-things-i-hate-about-being-a-girl

Thanks to: @muspelhem_5 @Touglyforfemales @Eugene @front2back @DarkHumorRUs @AllThatSweetJazz @DeltaDanner @hypno-trip
You guys helped me a lot, thanks!

[OpenClose]

Wait, is this written by a guy with an alias of a girl?

Or is it simply written by an awesome and understanding girl?

Thank you for acknowledging it rather than calling it simply complaining. THAT is the important part. Simply understanding our perspective.

For instance, I don't mind buying a girl dinner or gifts when I make extra cash. But if I don't, that doesn't make me a jerk, that makes me reasonable.

The "men don't cry" thing seems to have died down a LOT though, which is good.

Also, this understanding is very important to understanding cultural issues regarding women as well.

For instance, in the Middle East and Africa, where Polygyny is rampant, and most women select only the top few guys, most men are left to waste. This drives men to pursue much more violent means. In these areas, such as Iraq and the Congo, violence and rape are at absolutely pathological levels. There is also a constant need to control women's sexuality to keep tract of paternal parentage, etc. Psychology Today did a good article on the subject. Specifically number 4 in this list:

https://goo.gl/D1SolF

It could be said that this is the primary nature of male violence. And you find that nations with more sexually-liberated women with higher libidos have much less male violence, such as the Nordic countries.

[hypno-trip]

She's a real girl she did one about girls and their problems and this one is about guys

[OpenClose]

That's pretty epic.

[hypno-trip]

Woods that was meant for @Pedantic...

[OpenClose]

Still answered my question. lol!

[OpenClose]

Oh hey, here is some more good info as well.

goodmenproject.com/.../

[WhatTheHellAmy]

THANKS A LOT!! <3 and well, the last time I checked I had a vagina :) thanks for calling me awesome though :3 you're making me blush lol

It's pretty nice when a guy wants to pay, I understand that, but if he doesn't have money or if I invited him, I want to pay.
Nordic countries have an amazing index of peace :)
That's a very interesting article, I did ignore many of those facts.

[BumbleSuperBee]

You're so right... ESPECIALLY when rose was saved and not jack!! Gaah, plus, N every superhero movie ( well, almost) the problems in there haappen because of the girl (y'know, the girl the superhero's in love with). They're just useless n pointless...
Great myTake! I actually feel sorry for u guys.. it's not a fair life..

[WhatTheHellAmy]

C'est la vie :( :(

Yeah, Jack was a hottie, he deserved to live XD lol

[BumbleSuperBee]

Well duh! <3

[hypno-trip]

lol I agree with yah both...

[Jonny_]

Stereotypes are the only ones that get me in all honesty, I just hate being compared to other guys and in particular I hate that being nice is apparently suspicious since other guys of course act nice to get somewhere. At the same time it's just an issue that I kill off since, if i'm truly nice it'll show regardless of how long I know a person. I don't really care about dick size as I feel thats an inferiority complex amongst guys more than anything.

Not being socially acceptable to hit a girl also doesn't bother me, if anything I agree with it and would probably hit a guy who dares hit a girl not that I don't believe women can't take care of themselves but it's just a personal button pusher for me to see a guy do it.

Being expected to pay? I haven't experienced that at all, all girls i've dated were more than willing to split the cost of anything but i'm more than willing to cover the whole cost because I guess i'm old fashion and frankly i'm happy to be on a date i'm not concerned about money. Same with crying, any time it's happened women are understanding about it and they can see why it happens, sure guys might have a go but emotionally women definitely got it.

Jail? I'm not concerned about, not even going to be close to going there... in fact I am actually ex military which leads me to that bit, I don't feel a burden for what I did as it was still my own choice the only thing that bothered me about it was that the females were given and easier time. I get they need their own space and may not have the same natural genetic muscle, but when they're given easier 'tests' for something considered health and safety? I don't understand it, if it's health and safety why is the test easier for anyone, and why do guys miss out on a job for failing if they pass the womens test standard? It's also plain dangerous to hand out passes for it when in a crisis it won't go down that way.

Boners, crying and strength don't bother me they're just something well within my own control.

[QooLipBite]

I would say that this definitely applies to different individuals.

With #10, just because you're a guy... Doesn't mean this applies to you, this problem only applies to criminals and those who may have been involved in criminal situations, it just happens to be that the majority of prisoners are men. It's not the fact that you're a male that gets you in jail, it's the fact that you've commited a crime.

With #9, isn't it legal to turn down an offer or request to join the army? Besides it's good for your development (mental and physical) to take part in military training for example discipline, being respectful, being able to think (tactful), getting strong and fit.

With #8 I think I've come across many who had cried in front of people (including myself) but I've never come across an incident when people are like "man up, princess". They were sympathetic about it, even the most alpha'est and manliest guy came to me and patted my back and said "you alright bro?" The thing that I'm hacked about with this is that there are still some people who fail to realize that men are human as well, they have emotions 😂

#7 i wouldn't regard the pressure for me to be 'strong' as something that I should be upset about. It motivates you to get strong and get the job done, I don't see the harm being done?

With #6, I don't think the problem lies within being a male... The problem lies within the other people around you that are implying and inducing the stereotypes. Because if we had a totally different society but still remained as males, the stereotypes would be gone but it is a problem that many including me is hacked about 😂

#5 Sûcks Assssss 😂👏

#4 I wouldn't hate being a guy just cause I have boners... 😒 I mean who would? 😂 it may get irritating but the benefits outweigh the odds

#3 I think it's the man, who's main job is to hunt for the women (gender roles). Basically, men are more suited for this role than women are (majority). Which explains the sub and dom and why if a guy sleeps with 100 girls, he's High value (womanizer/player) but If a girl sleeps with 100 guys, she's low value (slut)

#2 yea... I kinda agree that many guys don't like being chivalrious... Sometimes it can suck

#1 again, this applies to only the guys in some situations (like i mentioned in #10. You may get some guys who understand women and you may get some women who are understandable 😂

[WhatTheHellAmy]

10.- I get that having a dick is not equal to going to jail. What I'm trying to say is that guys for society are guiltier than girls.
9.- In some countries. YOU HAVE TO DO IT.
8.- In some countries a man crying is a weak person. Like in Mexico (I'm not saying all mexicans are like that). Mexicans are the machos, you should know about that.
7.- For some guys it's unfair to be the one who does the hard work.
6.- Well, stereotypes exist and for society guys are mean.
5.- K
4.- I'm not saying boners are the most hateful thing, I'm just saying it's awkward. Don't take the "hate" too literally.
3.- Right, girls are sluts and guys are womanizers. But who the heck is talking about that? I'm talking about guys doing the approaching all the time.
2.- K
1.- Exactly, some understand women, most guys don't. And all girls DON'T understand other girls. We never know what we want XD

[RationalLioness]

1) I agree with 10. It's unfair that many men are incarcerated for longer periods of time than women and that black men in America are incarcerated for longer periods than white men. This needs to be changed.

2) Don't really agree about the military part. In some parts of the world, women aren't allowed to be in the military. So that's not their fault.

I do think that the American draft should be abolished because it's not fair that men have to sign up for it. But the whole "men only go to war" situations was started by men. I'm now glad that both genders can serve if they wish to in America.

3) I do agree about how men are demeaned by their own peers sometimes and by plenty of women. That needs to stop. Every man should be himself, not what other people think he should be.

4) The reason why a majority of guys pay for the date is because they approached the girl or they want to. They don't HAVE to pay--I don't know why some feel that this is obligatory based off of gender. You pay if you asked the person out.

I don't get how people split bills on the first date--that makes no sense to me.

5) I'm going to hurry and finish this up.

-I feel like men should hit women when they are in fear for their life, just not in a retaliatory attack. He should definitely charge the woman for assault and not be demeaned by it.

-Men can get raped by women too. And I think these abused and molested men need to step forward so that they can get help on the federal level.

-Dick size is dependent on the woman. Many women want to "feel" something, but I've been told by quite a few women that small penises have given them the strongest orgasms ever.

-Of course some men deserve the child over the mother. But this is a case by case basis as always including for the mother.

-Per the virginity, I think that's all in the guy's head. I have heard other guys clap each other on the back for sleeping with a girl and demeaning him for not doing so, but I've heard more women do the opposite. There's nothing wrong with being a virgin but a lot of them don't want to listen so...

-I don't think women are that difficult to understand. If you know how to make basic inferences, then you're already half-way there. If you know how to empathize with other people, you know the majority of women I believe. But it does seem that I speak a different language to a lot of guys.

-Finally, I'm sure there are "female" advantages but I can't think of one. If anyone knows, feel free to say.

[Frost_Byt3]

Here is a female advantage: Multiple orgasms.

[aniemist]

All of these problems are not simple, men have it bad on a lot of things I can agree with all of these, still women have to deal with just as many. The real issue is the standards of society, we love to say we are individual people and what society says doesn't matter, and yes while you can ignore some if it and go for what you believe in, which I and many others do, I am sure that deep down we all care about what society thinks because it can affect our lives. As a society we have rules and laws many evident while many others implied and we have ways to enforce this including ignoring, cajole, tease, coerce, or putting people in jail to name a few

The gender identity that is associated with biology is one such norm of society that is not easy to change, and has been formed by many centuries of tradition. If you look at LGBT people it not so different either those who fight against what society finds as normal. People will hold to their beliefs very strongly and more often than not will refuse to deviate from this.

A good example of this was another thread I posted on recently about transgender, I am a man but I can show empathy to those who feel like they don't quite belong or something about them just doesn't feel right to them, Im sure many people who aren't transgender could say they had the feeling of not fitting in at the very least, and try to understand the viewpoint transgender people have. What I got was people who really didn't care what I had to say about it or the reasoning, them trying to understand in their eyes was something they refused to do.

I think this is the very root of the problem with much of society today, we don't try to understand each other and aren't even willing to try to. If we want a time where people can truly try to respect each other and our differences we need to teach the generations after us to be open minded and stop beating into their heads the prejudices we learned growing up. I believe this to be true of virtually any problem we are having in society. Obviously easier said then done.

[Anonymous]

I'm the same guy who wrote "#1 if I wrote a GAG article titled "Things I hate about being a guy" nobody would respect me"...

Just have to say that this a very good, informative write up! I really appreciate you taking the initiative and research to approach to put this piece together. It makes me respect your original article more because you took the time to listen to men. I hope you keep this open minded attitude as you get older (impressive insight for a 16 year old)

There is one section that deserved to a title in this article... FEMINISM. Guys have to endure organized, legitimized and institutionalized hate from feminists for last 50 years. Feminist argue that "well our world is already paternalist"... however they leave out certain advantages that women have been given (i. e. chivalry) for centuries. If some feminist retorts "we are not about male bashing, we are about equality" then I respond "do you EVER admit the women is wrong about ANYTHING". Men will admit their faults... but I have yet to see feminist admit a woman is wrong about something.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Thanks a lot :) It's nice that you liked it, some guys didn't like it lol well, you can't make everybody happy.
My parents were really direct to me since I was a child, they never hide the truth or anything, they are divorce and they always talked to me like a grown up, that's why I'm like this, I hate the fact that they can't be together but that made me stronger and I know what age will only make me better.

Yup, I know guys have to deal with extremist feminists. I am a feminist but I love men, that's what feminazis don't get, feminism it's not about hating guys, it's about equality. I think this whole feminism thing is on "stereotypes", feminazis just judge.
I know girls never admit when they are wrong, I'm not one of them.

[Opinion Owner]

I think we need to call women like you something else besides "feminist". Maybe "equalist" or something. I just hope that when you get into college you don't get brainwashed. I've seen several girls become man haters when they attend public universities.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Well, I study at home, where my brain can think what it wants <3 and University... I want to be an actress so I'm going to study something related to that, actors are normally open minded :)

I'm bisexual because I love men and women equality, I don't think people will make me change my mind. Let's hope I stay the same forever <3

[Opinion Owner]

you should like an interesting girl.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

I do, I like smart ladies :)

[Azara]

women go to war and have to depending on where you are.

and more women die in childbirth than men die in war.

guys dont have to open jars

pay for dates

or ask anyone out

they do these things bc it perpetuates a boys club and it comes with male benefits. for example not being attached to any of the degrading views you and many people seem to carry about women you've never met before. it makes getting work a lot easier when people dont assumer you're weak emotional fragile irresponsible volatile looking for an easy ride and can't open jars.

and women are insulted ALL the time not for being weak but for the stereotype that they are weak, just by being.

women dont like drama. you, like drama. there's a difference.

again if women were respected for more than wiping noses and picking kids up from school, there wouldn't be an excuse to give kids to moms. if guys are the 'workers' who is supposed to take care of the kid if the kid lives with dad. if you want kids stop defending labor discrimination against women.

you and your friends are either genuinely clueless -which you can change so its not a credible excuse. or sexist. people who complain do it as subterfuge. you can appear as if you're against something all the while supporting that system you supposedly hate,. bc not only is complaining ineffectual,. overtime you complain you reinforce stereotypes.

none of this inevitable its just manufactured segregation. is if guys dont like sexism they shouldn't condone it. none of this stuff has anything to do with being male. it has to do with sexism. so reject it.

[Azara]

men are only criticized for crying bc crying is associated with women and women are promoted culturally as the 'shameful' sex. the worst insult a man can call a man is a woman. lets not pretend were talking about something else,. men face retaliation from peers for being 'human', bc women are dehumanized.

[NovaLS]

With your comments in regard to men doing things because it is part of the boys club, why do women push this on men? I love working on cars and my roommates girlfriend was harassing him for not knowing mechanics and saying he wasn't manly because he could fix things. It goes both ways, women pin it on men. Many women are astounded (in the negative way) for splitting dates, so basically if a guy wants to get a date he Must pay. The point with war is mostly the draft. You may cry wartime equality when you have to sign up, or when it is abolished. Women are more dramatic in society, perhaps they took the role on from TV or what they perceived as social norms but honestly they do act it out nicely if such is the case. Here in college I have had the same roommates for a year and get along great with them! Never had a problem. It is very similar experience. Yet girls apartments constantly talk about their "terrible roommates" and everything else. Even the TV shows they watch are dramatic.

[NovaLS]

This again might be the way that we all were raised. One more thought, there are actual differences between males and females (obviously...) Look at the Olympics, who holds the highest weight numbers, the fastest times etc? All men. Locally a women was angered because she failed a firefighting test that required lifting a heavy human shaped object down a ladder and was unable to do so. She claimed they were being sexist and filed a lawsuit. Fact of the matter is for a firefighter I want them to be able to move my 250 lb father out of a building. It has nothing to do with sex, but ability. If the woman could lift the weight then more power to em, but if they can't they can't. There are certainly woman much more capable than me, but there are also reasons certain jobs and areas have more men and than women and other areas more women than men.

[Frost_Byt3]

You say that guys don't HAVE to ask girls out. Well you are right about that, but the only other option is to die alone. Because most guys won't get asked out by a girl even once in their entire lifetime.

[shadowarrior99]

Wow. I dont think i've ever seen one of these before, and anytime I heard girls say how hard it is to be a guy, they'd laugh or something to that extent. Very good take and many are true. I would add male privilege or white male privilege as a possibility to that list, but that's just me--because it's like this gives us superpowers when that's not true.

For the crying, as a sensitive introvert, I can say this is true. I wrote a memoir where I as a character cry a few times because I care about someone or was going through a tough time. Amazon commenters--3--mentioned that i was a "cry baby." I believe 2 of them were past enemies of mine, but still. It's wrong. We are able to cry as well for a reason. Recently I've seen a few movies, like Interstellar, where the guy actually cries, and I'm genuinely surprised; it was shown in an honest way. A movie like The Interview showed the bad guy crying in a funny way, for us to laugh at him; not exactly in an honest way to be empathetic with him, which reinforces us to laugh at guys who cry.

Anyway, thanks for making something like this.

[codyvham]

Being a guy can suck big time.
I really don't think girls know what a guy goes through, but you did a great explaining the basics of what guys go through.
It is mainly guys who get jail time and pulled over by police more often.
At 18 to 25, by law we have to give our name to the Secret Service, women don't have to.
if you cry in public we are called gay. It sucks when that is all you want to and can't show it
On dates or proposing, we have to pay because it is expected. We may not always have the money to pay for a date, so it will be nice if the girl can pay sometimes or half of it. When it comes to proposing, paying for a ring that cost more than my house. I don't see why we have to pay for a ring that she might say no to pawn. Besides, what do we get in return for it?
When we are horny, it shows. It is humiliating in public.
Great take

[ladymcbeth]

Not all girls want a ring worth your house. Personally, something small but attractive is good. I don't want to be robbed.

[codyvham]

Haha thanks for the input.
But I have heard that girls like diamonds.

[crystalt70]

Yes to diamonds, but you are WAY off on the cost. I have friends with rings that cost between $100-$200 and then some with rings that cost around $700. Very few of them have rings that cost more than $1,500. Gold diggers want rings that cost thousands of dollars. If your girl expects a crazy expensive ring, then you are with a gold digger.

[codyvham]

Thanks for the info. I will keep that in mind then.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Thanks a lot :) I'm glad you liked it.

Yeah, some situations are super unfair :/

[DaniaMQ]

I totally Agree with this take ! :D especially the thing about hitting Thing , Poor Guys :/ ! No One Has The Right To Hit The Other What So Ever! !!

I Also Agree With The Thing About Virginity !! I See Lots of Question on This Site About Virginity, They're Like " Im Virgin, Is That bad? " or " Im In My 20's And Im Still Virgin Will That be a Turn Off For Girls? " I mean really? virgin is a great thing for me ! it means that the guy is saving it for the girl that really Deserves it ! ! I dont see why if someone Saves their virginity Unti marriage people Find it wired or " Stupid" ... if I were to chose a guy I would Choose Him virgin... My boyfriend is virgin and he's 21 !! So what? ( besides our religion forbids sex before marriage, So yeah ) ... What im trying to say to guys is that dont be ashamed From being virgin... Be proud Of it :)

Everything in This Take Is right, I bet guys r happy to know That FINALLY A FEMALE WHO UNDERSTANDS US ! :D lol

[DaniaMQ]

Oh and the crying thing is so right! !! I HATE it when people say "real men dont cry "

Why r they robots or something? ...

[Unit1]

Yes, we are robots! Check out my humorous take www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a9193-who-we-men-really-are-mystery-solved

Happy reading :) get yourself a coffee or tea upon doing so.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Thanks a lot <3

[DaniaMQ]

@Asker Welcome :) <3

[DaniaMQ]

@Unit haha :D I will read it right now :D

[DaniaMQ]

** @Unit1

[DaniaMQ]

@Unit1 I just saw it and it was long haha so I will read it late on :) it seems a very nice take tho :D I laughed on the feeling thing ( page cannot be found ) LOL :D

[DaniaMQ]

I meant @Opinion Owner welcome :) <3

[DaniaMQ]

Oh gosh... im not concentrating right now...

I meant @TakeOwner Welcome :) <3

Haha sorry for typing it bad more than once ! :D

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Hahahahaha this is so cool lol

[DaniaMQ]

Hahaha :D

[Yc2K15]

That morning boner thing was absolutely hilarious. I wanna try the superman. Good take! Even if there is some criticism not often can you write a perfect article that satisfies everybody. I think its great that you are letting people know that men have issues too lol. Im ok with most. My biggest problem is girls judge me very openly often when I meet them about my job industry. When I was around 19 I worked in bars, I was making $28 an hour and the tips were insane, enough alone to pay my rent easily each week. If I told a girl I was a Bartender she would almost laugh in my face. It sucks lol

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it :D

Right, I'm getting lot of shit but I'm okay with that, I know you can't make everybody happy.

Oh, fucking bitchezzz lol I'd like to be a bartender because I know it's a job with lot of good tips lol I was a waitress the last year and in one month I earned 1000 dollars, and I was 15 XD So I said: I want to be a bartender and with that pay my college. I want to be an actress and paying that kind of career is kinda expensive.

Blah, don't listen to those bitchezz, BARTENDERS ARE THE SHIIT!

[Yc2K15]

Haha yeah it isn't an easy job, you have to remember an encyclopaedia of recipe's while dealing with drunk assholes. It's a good idea to do bar work through uni, but it all depends on where you work. Aim for the high end places for a little less abuse and peace, or go clubs and pubs for big money and constant abuse.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

I really want clubs XD I know, it's crazy, but I love clubs, they are so much fun. I want some "coyote ugly" adventure lol

[Yc2K15]

Thats what a lot of people imagine it to be, but its not the 90's anymore. People can't have fun behind the bar like they did back then, you have a lot of really horrible people to deal with too lol

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Yeah, life can't be perfect :( haha

[Nik1hil]

5 star for your take ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐♥♥♥♥♥ nice, you brought everything in a sequence. But 1 thing none of them told, most of the problem we deal are in childhood, and get adapted, to face them on every step! But we still fall now and then. This things cannot be removed from society but if there is someone who can stand by our side and hold us when we get dis-balanced or fall. That is all what we need a little hope, to get back on our feet. When world around us is turning against us. That is why we form gangs very often.
And By the way where do you find such amazing set of pics to support your takes.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

THANKS A LOT HUN! <3 I'm glad you liked it :) <3
Well, I didn't think about childhood because guys and girls go through this.

The pics are from google images, I just google the word and the images appear. Example:
10# guys in jail. I remember about this awesome Schneider's movie and I said, "I have to put in here" and then I saw a pic about a guy saying "The soap, pick it up" and then I thought "Shiiit! that's true! THE SOAP!"
Comes from the internet and from my crazy and filthy mind lol

[PiuBelloAmante]

A lot of these things make sense but, i dont agree with all of them
I think men should fight wars, and woman shouldn't
I think all men should learn how to use basic tools and do basic things
Also its a mans job to be strong, if he is capable of becoming so

I also dont mind paying for dates, i think its important a man do this
1. Because it shows that you can provide for her
2. If you ask her out on a date, you should be the one paying

[hellionthesage]

I agree that many of these things are masculin traits and should be respected, there is nothing wrong with being a man. But, I do think society tends to forget that we have problems too.

[crystalt70]

Great response! @PiuBelloAmante

@helionthesage Society doesn't forget, we just think they do. We fail to see that the way we handle things and people is the unfair thing. I don't think anyone should be forcing their opinions of others on them or making them feel bad if they aren't hurting anyone.

[crystalt70]

Sorry. Missed an l. @hellionthesage

[PiuBelloAmante]

@hellionthesage Agreed bro, men aren't perfect and might not completely fill "societies" mold for us

@crystalt70 Thanks

[hellionthesage]

@crystalt70 I think society does forget, frequently. There are many laws to protect women, none protect men. We are so caught up in protecting women that we have not only forgotten that men are human to, but that we are not the enemy. We are blamed for most violence, yet statisticly 80% of all assault/mugging/murder victims are male. That isn't to suggest that women are out in great numbers doing this but merely to point out that women are in fact much safer then men, and statisticly speaking even children. Domestic violence is about 50/50 yet men are ignored. We see men as the aggressor and oppressor when in fact they are subject to the same things as any one else. If we mention it and talk about it I think it would be to the benefit of all.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

1.- Yup, guys should fight wars, but they have the same rights to live as much as women.
2.- Nope, not all men should learn how to use tools, why should they? Because they are stronger? Cuz they have dicks? Men can be as weak as they want and they should get no hate about that.
3.- Dates, yeah, paying it's fine, buuuuut, it doesn't mean that a guy should pay ALL THE TIME, girls can make money too and be independent.
Right, the one who ask out gotta pay, but if we are totally fair, you ate something, you pay for it.

[PiuBelloAmante]

2. Men should know how to do certain basic things on their own
Not because they are "stronger" but they must be able to provide/protect, when called upon, having the skills to use tools allows us to do this in any situation, Women should know too, its not because men have dicks, I don't know why you are bringing that up
Men shouldn't be weak, men should strive to be as strong as possible, Strong of mind, Body and spirit

3. can't argue with you their, for the first few dates i think the guy should pay, when the relationship grows and there is more trust, thats when it doesn't matter who pays, although i believe the man should always offer to pay

[Unit1]

Hello again!

A very great take you got there, keep up the good work.

As a guy for myself I almost completely agree with all but number 4, A and C. Boner is not even a deal for me :) Virginity and the opposite means nothing to me either, seriously :D Dick size? Please. Why would the world spin around someones dick? This is the same nonsense as virginity in my opinion.

The rest is so damn accurate and true :-/ not to mention unfair.
and the theory, that guys do not hit girls (back) is absolutely devastating!

Thanks for sharing! I appreciate it.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Thanks a lot for your opinion, I'm glad you liked it :)

[BiffWebster]

1) 1 in out of 100 males has been incarcerated at one point, or is still.
2) Any woman that claims a man hit her... even with no evidence the male must leave the house or apartment, even if he owns it.
3) sexual harassment, or rape allegation apparently doesn't exist for guys. Yet if a woman claims sexual harassment or lies about a rape, you as a male can immediately lose your job or have your life ruined.
4) Being a white male, early 20's to 40's, i must move my seat on the airline if a child under the age 16 is flying alone in the seat next you... a female does not have to move. -_- mainly bc of the whole Pedo thing...
5) men many times are left or forced by the courts to support a child of an ex wife who is not genetically related to them.
6) some woman can actually sue their fiancee if he breaks off a wedding engagement (yes it is legal, and has happened).

-_-

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Oh gosh, those are fucking great point. The number 5, omg!!! That's too much.
2 is awful too, damn, u guys have a hard life :(

[BiffWebster]

Yo, i'm willing to admit that women go through a lot, and they do... but it pales in comparison to what men go through. You can go look it up. The amount of violence, drug use, incarceration, poverty, and crime, its all men baby. Women get more attention, and that's nothing new, but its not about just recognizing what women go through, because if you can fix and change what men go through, then women would probably have much easier lives to share with men.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Yeah, I'm totally familiar with that, I know girls get more attention, I'm a feminist and I just want equality. I want awareness so the girls can know that guys can suffer too, and even worse than us. Yeah periods and pregnancy suck, but life is very unfair when it comes to guys. It's easier to forgive a woman than a guy.

[Poppykate]

I have been in the position where a guy cancelled the wedding 6 weeks from the wedding. My parents were left holding a bill of close to $10,000 for unrefundable deposits, and non returnable items. In this case he should had refunded them this amount for his 'change of mind'.

[BiffWebster]

oh alright
yea egalitarianism is the way to go ^^ . I agree with feminists on many things, but it sometimes seems they are mostly advertising what women go through because of Men, which is understandable and want men to behavior better. -_- yet its more complicated than that.

[Anonymous]

#10
Real men don't go to jail.
#9
We don't "have" to be soldiers.
#8
I don't want to cry and if I want to cry I would cry.
#7
What kind of person don't know how to handle tools.
#6
I actually agree with this one.
#5
I think you should go dutch at least on the first few dates.
#4
Boners are awesome. You don't pee with boners you masturbate then pee without a boner. Everyone doesn't get erectile dysfunction.
#3
I think no one should wait around for the other to ask them out be it a lad or a lass.
#2
It's women and children not only women and it's because those are the most important components for us to survive as a species.
#1
I guess.

Also, I'd like to say you do not have the authority for saying what guys don't like about being guys.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

10. Some guys who are innocent to go jail.
9. Some HAVE to do it
8. That's perfect, no one should give a fuck about a guy crying... But, in some countries, guys crying are faggs
7. THERE ARE PLENTY OF GUYS who can't handle tools, like a teacher, or a doctor, an actor, dick not equal to tool. Dick ≠ Tools
6. K
5. Yup, that's on you.
4. Many guys have problems with that, and babe, you're under 18! Problems like those come with age.
3. You are right. You like someone? Ask her/him out.
2. Yeah, that's right, but I'm not talking about the "why" about it.
1. K

I have the authority to do whatever the fuck I want honey :*

[crystalt70]

Damn! I like and respect you! You will go far in life with that attitude. High five! ✋

[Maverickj]

About #9, some men *are* forced to be soldiers. Male-only conscription and all that. In fact, some female politicians are actively trying to keep it that way.

[Opinion Owner]

@Take Owner You just called guys who cry fags as you said "guys crying are faggs" not "guys that cry are generally assumed to be fags by a majority of the population." or similar. Also, innocent people of both genders are sent to jail. You're also under 18 and you're not even a guy but still most guys don't get erectile dysfunction. Everyone uses tools, a teacher may use a pencil to write or a ruler to measure and a doctor uses a very large variety of tools. If we're talking about tools like hammers and screwdrivers, then hammers are just hitting on nails and screwdrivers are just things that you twist. You don't even have to be remotely intelligent to use most tools. Still don't know how to use tools? Well then google it for example "How to use a hammer?" using your computer (which also is a tool). There are even tools for opening jars.

www.webmd.com/.../myths-and-facts-about-erectile-dysfunction

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Oh come on! Guys who cry are not faggs for me. I respect men who can do it, you totally misunderstood.

Of course innocent people go to jail, REAL MEN go to jail, because even if they are good persons sometimes police is very unfair and those things happen. It's not a guy's decision to go or not go to jail. Life is unfair and you can end up behind bars.

Okay, I hope you never go through ED.

Okay, my bad, by tools I meant hammers. Yeah, you can find a tutorial. BUT HAVING A DICK DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE STRONG AND THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THE HARD WORK. This is where the whole unfair thing gets in.

[Opinion Owner]

I seriously hope I don't end up behind a bar. All the mixing cocktails and such, really not my thing.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Hahaha, well, bars are cool XD

[NovaLS]

Using tools is more than screwing something or hammering something. Its knowing what to do to complete a project. Sure taking a transmission out of a car requires a simple jack, and a socket wrench, but that sure as hell doesn't mean most people can do it.

[immjusttmee]

Since I'm a girl, I don't know what opinion I can give. One thing I strongly agree on is how guys are told to 'man up' and be tough. My brother is kinda shy, and I felt so bad for him with another guy told him to be more assertive and dominant. That really bothered me. One of the issues I have is when you wrote 'guy can be mothers too'. Guy Can take the parenting role since they're also parents, but by saying that guys can me 'mothers', I feel like you're saying that guys can have the feminine qualities. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with guys having qualities one may describe as feminine, but guys aren't females, so by calling them 'mothers' as a form of being the main parents, I think it's a bit insulting. Though I'm sure you didn't mean it like that. One other thing I agree is on the fact that guy Have to join the military is some countries whereas females are mostly looked down for joining. I think guys should have the choice since it's their lives at risk.

[hellionthesage]

fun fact: the draft was actually the main reason why men were given the right to vote 70 years before women. It was kind of bull when women got the right to vote but never actually had to sign for the draft. They don't teach that in schools for some reason.

[Hal2002]

I love number eight, that is one of the biggest lies women tell. No woman wants a man that cries.

Any guy out there that has shown weakness and cried around a woman, and still feel respected by that woman? Any of you, still in a romantic relationship with her?

The same woman that is all concerned at your show of weakness or tears. Is the same woman, laughing at you when she tells her friends what a sissy you are.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

That's not true, I like a guy who can be brave enough to cry.

[Hal2002]

Let me know, if you still feel that way in 10 years.

Because every woman I know that married a sensitive emotional man, today now bitches about him being a to sensitive and emotional.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Of course I'll think this way. My father is very emotional guy, that's the only thing I like about him (and he's funny too), he cries with me when we watch a sad movie, I want my husband to be like this with my children.

[crystalt70]

Too many people are worried about what other people think. Who gives a shit what "society" thinks? Live your life and be happy. Life's unfair for every single person on this earth, but in different ways. I wish people would stop complaining so much about how bad they have it, especially when it's over trivial things. People don't like your weight, sex, race, height, age, clothing, music style, dimply ass, penis size, eye color, car, laugh or big toe? Does it really matter? That's THEIR problem, not yours. Why allow their OPINIONS to determine who you are if those things about you aren't hurting anyone else? The only person hurting by allowing others to put you down or expect you to be a certain way is yourself. That misery doesn't even affect them. They also don't care that you think it's unfair that they think this way. To quote Disney's Frozen... Let it Go!

[hellionthesage]

While that may be true, some of the things on this list do have real world consequences.

[crystalt70]

Of course they do, but what's the point of complaining about them? A person is either going to live their lives miserably while complaining about how life is unfair for them or they're going to actually do something about it. And, is complaining about how women asks their man for help with opening jars or fixing something really that big of a deal? I'm a single mom and I take care of EVERYTHING around here. I can't afford to hire someone to come fix things when they break. My sink became clogged up and liquid drain chemicals didn't do crap. I surely did go buy a $7 high pressure tool to take care of the job myself. I climbed right underneath the cabinet, took apart the pipes, attached the tool to my house, ran it into the pipe going into the wall and turned that thing on. I sat there catching water in a pot, cleaning any spills, holding the tool in place and reattaching my pipes when done. I have also had to put a new toilet in after taking out an old one. I have had to do all my own

[crystalt70]

maintenance around here and I didn't have prior knowledge. It's not hard to figure things out. I cook, clean, take care of a child with a life-threatening medical illness, raise 4 kids, maintain my home, repair things when broken, etc with no help from a man. That includes not getting child support or any other assistance/support from their dad when it comes to my kids. I am not saying that men have nounfair life experiences, but EVERYONE does. I just think that there are more important things to worry about than a woman asking for help from her man. Would I expect him to do it all or alone? Absolutely not. I was right there by their dad's side when he was building/repairing his boats. Him and I rebuilt this house with nobody else's help after a major hurrican came through. My butt surely was lifting and hanging 12 ft x4 ft sheets of sheetrock all over this house. I taped, floated, sanded, and painted these walls BY MYSELF. I stained and hung the cabinets right there with him.

[crystalt70]

I built this huge shed with him. I helped with yardwork by cutting grass while he weedeated the yard. I can go on and on. Is it stuff that I knew how to do or really wanted to do? Nope. I have always done what needed to be done. I didn't complain about how unfair it is either. Why? Because there are things in life that are way more unfair and I have had the absolute pleasure of enduring a few. I have done so without complaining. I'm not saying this to make me look better than anyone and I don't believe that I am. I'm not saying this for any reason except to say that we as people need to prioritize and get over the smaller issues. Complaining never helps. @hellionthesage

[crystalt70]

*attached the tool to my HOSE, not house.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Got your point, fuck them all. But.. complaining about not getting your child, complaining about going to jail because you have a dick and you are more guilty than a girl, complaining about going to wars, etc IT'S TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE, those things are awful.

@hellionthestage Right, well said.

[crystalt70]

Want your child? Go to court. Nowadays, they are doing split custody. One week here, the next week there and back and forth. Want to know who that hurts? The child. That is instability. The wife doesn't want to turn the child over, call the police. She has to follow court orders. In divorced or "broken" families, the child is the more important one, not either of the parents. My kids' dad hasn't paid a dollar to me in years and people tell me they don't understand why I still let my kids go over there? I split holidays/birthdays down the middle and they go there when he decides to want them. Why? Because I will not keep my kids from their father just because he wants to hurt me. Jail? Obey the law and you won't have to worry about it so much. Where I live, there are just as many women in jail as men. Women are not less guilty than men just because they don't have a penis. Wars? That theory was way more valid during WWI & WWII when men (my pawpaw) were drafted and forced to go to war.

[crystalt70]

Now, the men who go to war volunteer to do so. I have many relatives and friends that have done so and every single one of them have said they would do it again if it meant protecting our freedom and safety from bad guys.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Oh gosh, SOME GUYS HAVE TO GO TO WAR EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT! THE COURT GIVES PREFERENCE TO WOMEN.

K bye.

[crystalt70]

Lol. Why are you getting mad and dismissing me because I don't agree? Look, I am not saying that guys have unfairness in their worlds. They absolutely do. I am saying that people need to learn what's more important and stop complaining about the trivial stuff. As far as war, men who do not sign up for the military do not or are far less likely to go to war. These men know about the possibility of war when they sign up. It's their friends and families who hate the fact that they go to war. My cousin's husband has been overseas 8 times. Yet, he stays in the military. You NEVER hear a complaint from him. He goes willingly and he is a very humble, religious and God fearing man. Why does he do it? Because he wants to protect innocent people from harm. Courts do give preference to women as the primary caregiver in most cases. But, each individual case is treated just that way. It's all about where the children will thrive the most. It's not about the woman. I know quite a few single dads

[crystalt70]

who are the primary caregivers of their children. It goes case by case, not by sex and is determined by who will help the child to grow/thrive the most.

[crystalt70]

by the way, it's a little bit confusing when men complain about how it's so unfair that women aren't equal to them in the unfairness that is their life, then complain about women wanting to be equal. That's a double standard. And, no, I am not a feminist. I'm js.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

You think the whole world is Murica, right? In some countries, guys have to go wars. PERIOD. That's unfair. People who want to fight, okay, die for ur country. People who don't want to. It's unfair to force them.

Duh, I know single dads too! Dammit, I know many guys are the best dads in the world, so, don't you think it's unfair when the woman gets the child custody? My parents got divorced, my mom let me decide and I stayed with my dad BUT if she wouldn't let me decide, I'd have to live with her because that's what the law says, women get the child.

[crystalt70]

That's not the law. Also, you should read EVERY word i stead of what you THINK i am saying.

[hellionthesage]

They are not doing split custody, it is standard that the woman gets custody, know they (man and woman) can work out an agreement but the fact is legally men have no recourse, they are at the mercy of their ex wife. They can also have there money and house taken as well (80% of all alimoney and child support are paid by men) If they can't pay then they go to prison (all the while society calls them deadbeats) this ensures that they lose there job and are forced to pay even more money since they were legally prevented from working for six months (because they were in prison) ensuring that upon release they will be forced back into prison and again they will be labeled deadbeats. Men make up half of all domestic violent victims, almost half of all rape victims (the majority if you count prison rape) and while we have many safe houses and shelters for women we have nearly none for men, yet we are routinley told to man up and except our fate, just as you have said just now.

[crystalt70]

They are doing split custody. It is why I didn't take my ex to court. That's exactly what the lawyer told me. She said it is something that they started doing a few years ago. I knew it was a possibility because two of my very close friends were ordered to do split custody with their exes. I am not putting my kids through that instability. They are more than free to go by their dad's house whenever they want, but nothing is going to be ordered of them by someone who will never see my kids again. Their dad doesn't even want them. And I didn't take him to court for child support, because he said he would make it hell for us and he would take the kids just so he could hurt me. I was actually told by a neighbor last night that she overheard him bragging to the bank manager where she works about how he doesn't pay a dollar in child support so he gets to keep his $3,000 to $8,500 weekly paychecks to himself. The ones called deadbeats are that for a reason, but that is a word I don't use.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

@hellionthesage We should let it go, she's not giving up.

[crystalt70]

It's a conversation. Stop freaking out on me for talking to people. You're making assumptions for no reason.

[hellionthesage]

80% of all alimony and child support is paid by men (despite 80% of all divorces being filed by women) we do not have split custody, at least in the majority of states and in fact feminist succesfully fought the legal attempts to do so in florida. Ancedotal evidence and gossip is not relevant, statisticly or otherwise. over 75% of the homeless are men, 97% of work place accidents/deaths are men. As for military services it is true that while the draft does exist it is not in use, but socially men are pressured into certain occupations and roles then women. We have laws that protect women and not men, women recieve 62% less sever sentences for men even though they commited the same crime. This is not equal representation under the law. This is not complaining, it is stating an obvious bias in our system. We talk about all the things women have to deal with, all the while trivializing what men go through, like what your doing right now. How is this a fair and balanced system?

[crystalt70]

@hellionthesage I am not putting MEN down for complaining or trivializing what they go through. I completely empathize with the issues that people deal with. When I speak of complaining, I am speaking to EVERYONE. People in general. Everyone deals with something different as INDIVIDUALS and no person should think or rant that they have it worse than someone else based on whatever they want to use like race, sex, age, weight, etc. People should stop worrying about how unfair life is and start being positive. That was my whole point. Life sucks and then you die. What we do in the meantime is up to us. Yes, things are unfair. People are unfair. The system is unfair. Can we change what other people do? No. We all go through hurdles. It's how we overcome these obstacles that speaks volumes.

[hellionthesage]

But many of these things are in place that do in fact hurt men to a greater degree and frequency then women. And that is due to our society refusing to acknowledge these issues. People are trying to fix the problems but since society seems to think that men never suffer or have problems they refuse to take these people seriously. As such the problem will persist until such a time that it is common enough knowledge that it can be taken seriously.

[muspelhem_5]

Seriously, kudos for researching and writing this, that is pretty amazing. And funny too. I have a hell of a lot of respect for you for doing that.

Take care (I know you can handle yourself) :)

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Thanks a lot! <3 I'm glad you liked it.
I'm a feminist who just want equality and that love men. Not all feminists are cruel bitches :)

[muspelhem_5]

I know. I have my own issues, so tend to lump all feminists in with the extremists. I'm trying to improve :) You're awesome. And p. s. the guy with the jar is hilarious XD

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Well, thanks for trying to improve that :) and thanks for helping me, you're awesome too!
PS: I know! XD, when I saw the pic I was like "LOL this guy is hilarious"

[muspelhem_5]

Aw, cheers :) If I were that guy, life: accomplished.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Yay, cheers :) Hahaha he won in life, that's for sure lol

[FatherJack]

Are you really 16 ? It takes maturity to see the " other side " & you are one of the few pro-male ladies on here. Another downside is in Western " society " , men are viewed as something below excreta in value , the " media " forever bashes men as worthless , expendable sex crazed rapists , a lot of Western women have a very negative view of men due to " media " programming. The military service one was interesting , I ( voluntarily ) served in the British Army from 1989 - 1996 & that gave me REAL confidence ( I'm Airborne trained too ) , but my kids say I'm too much of a Sergeant Major sometimes & too regimental. At least I do the housework !!

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Yeah, I was born in 1999 :)

Thanks a lot :)

Yeah, stereotypes are awful, it's horrible when women blame men over anything, that's unfair.

Well, at least you weren't force to do it, for some guys it is a must.

That's so cool, doing housework takes guts haha :)