The "White Knight" 💁🏽⬅️🏃🏽

[justbanANNAz]

Welcome to another controversial myTake where a woman writes to men! 🙋🏽😂

LOL oh man, the shit you guys label each other with, I love it. I’ve seen this around a lot lately, and every time I do, I’m thinking "what the hell is people's problem with this kind of guy?" All you need to do is look up "white knight memes" and see my point lol.

As some of you may know, I don't believe in the whole alpha/beta thing. They're just Greek letters people. 😒 The "White Knight" is no different: it is a new label on the rise. For this take, I'm going to go with the logic that this 'type' of male does exist and still argue that overall, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a white knight.

A Definition:

Let's pull out the one from the oh so reliable and accurate Urban Dictionary. ❤️

White Knight: A person (usually a male) who sees the typical maiden in distress, and believes that he can help her. A male version of the "mother figure" that some girls become.

Sentence examples

1. "Why is he going out with her? She's broken, and a little crazy."

2. "The fool's just being a White Knight."

Okay cool. So far, we understand this definition as: a man who likes to help and/or defend women, and kind of a dad figure. The sentence examples imply that he's also a man who can be 'too nice' indicating a lack of individuality for the sake of dating a woman. It also implies that women who are "broken, and a little crazy" are not date worthy, hence, any man who dates or defends a woman like this is... excuse me, a pussy. Finally, the other example states that he is a 'fool'.

SEEMS LEGIT. 😑😑😑

So far I haven't found the problem, so I kept looking for one.

The Psychology and Character Traits of a White Knight:

This 'type' of male is commonly known in psychological discourse to have the 'rescuer personality'. Still no problem yet. Any male or female who has an issue with this is only so far up their own ass that the thought of reaching out to others selflessly seems abhorent.

As I began to search more, I realised that a #WhiteKnight is, in a nutshell, an exaggerated version of a 'nice guy', who also happens to get shit from some males and females, which is a WHOLLEEE other issue in itself. Know why? KNOW WHY? because a 'nice guy' is considered... wait for it... BETA. LMAO! 😂Little nicknames for every damn thing. #nicknamesforevaa !!!

If we were to summarise the 'white knight', how would we do it? Here's something I got from Psychology Today. . .

A white knight typically has many of the following character traits:

• Fears emotional distance. ✔️


• Is very emotionally vulnerable and sensitive to idealize the partner. ✔️


• Has an extreme need to be viewed as important or unique. ✔️


• Tends to be self-critical or reactively blames, devalues, and manipulate others. ❌

In relationships, a white knight tends to show many of the following behaviors:

• Is attracted to a needy partner or a partner with a history of trauma, loss, abuse, or addiction. ✔️


• Fears being separated from the partner, losing the partner's love or approval, or being abandoned by the partner. ✔️


• Engages in controlling behavior, often under the guise of helping. ❌


• Maintains or restores connection with the partner by being extremely helpful or good. ✔️


• Responds ambivalently to the partner's success. ✔️


• Describes a sense of "oneness" with the partner. ✔️


• Fails to recognize the partner's manipulative behaviors. ❌


• Is seduced by the sexual or dramatic behavior of the partner. ❌


• Evokes strong feelings in the partner in order to avoid his or her own emotional discomfort. ❌


• Maintains hope for a gratifying relationship by denying the reality of the partner's issues. ❌

--> NOW we're getting somewhere. NOW I've found problems. As you can see [if you can see emojis :P ], anything I've ticked ✔️ is something that shouldn't or wouldn't be considered an issue to MOST women [except those feminazis who think a man opening a door for them is sexist. ugh]. Anything I've crossed ❌ most likely would be an issue, or destroy his individuality. There are different explanations for each of those, but believe me when I say these have been carefully thought out, and if you have questions, just ask without being rude. -.-

Ok, we now have negatives and positives, and as far as this list goes, they're pretty close. So what now? Is the "White Knight" still a good thing to be, or is it just one of those personality types no one should ever try to achieve?

Let me say this. ANY positive or negative personality TRAIT can belong to ANY personality TYPE, so first we must realise that all of these points do not apply to 'white knights' alone. We must also recognise that the positive aspects of this 'type' of man are incredibly attractive, and can even inspire in the long run.

>>>> THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A GOOD FUCKING DECENT HUMAN BEAN. CAPEESH? This is one of the primary reasons I defend the negative connotations behind this label. He isn't a player. He isn't a heartbreaker. He isn't shallow. He isn't selfish. He isn't inconsiderate, egotistical, arrogant, and rude, and these are all some of the WORST flaws any human can have.

The negatives of course, could use a lot of work. Things like manipulation, failure to realise that you're being used, devaluing others, etc etc, are unacceptable from anyone. One should remain self aware, no matter how far you come in life to ensure you stay grounded. If he's a bit of a pushover, so what? Is it your business? If he thoroughly enjoys helping women and defending them, so what? Or would you rather him add to the increasing figures of domestic violence internationally hmm?

What exactly is it that you guys want from each other?

When you spot a dickhead, you ridicule him, and when you spot a sensitive man or a softie, you ridicule him. What gives? Make up your minds.

"We should aim to be somewhere in the middle". Yes I hear you, but if this is really your response, have you not at all considered the vast spectrum of personality types? And who are you to even say which is more superior? And what authority do outside influences have on your life or anybody else's? If you strive to be a man who won't be manipulated into believing that your gender operates like some kinda wolf pack, then that includes the media by the way, stud. 🎩

We're all very slow to focus on people's qualities, and incredibly, disturbingly quick to point out their flaws. Best to look at your own and stay silent before you embarrass yourself.

The Last Word:

• So I searched and searched beyond the sources I showed you of course, and realised one thing. The only problem with a "White Knight", is that he has flaws... but wait. That is actually NOT a problem because every single human being has flaws. 'Problem' eradicated.


• A white knight is nothing but an exaggerated nice guy.


• There is no reason why this stupid label should exist, but even though it continues to, it should never be used condesendingly. If it is, then people who use it that way have no idea what they're talking about. It's like saying "You should never eat pizza". Dude what the hell? -.-


• Telling me I don't understand male behaviour, classification and psychology because "I'm a woman" will only strengthen my view as I'm not an idiot, I read a lot and I observe what goes on in my life. Thanks.

But most of all...

I strongly believe this so called "White Knight" has amazing potential to become a Dark Horse. #LookOutStud

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~j.B🍌

[Mesonfielde]

""A white knight is nothing but an exaggerated nice guy.""

You kinda missed the actual problem with "white knights". The actual problem is that White Knights™ and Nice Guys™ are essentially egocentric passive narcissists who try to manipulate Women to get them to like them through dehumanizing acts of benevolent sexism.

They're "nice" to The Girl because they want her to be emotionally indebted and guilt trip them into a romantic relationship; but to them, she's just "the love of their life" while they have minimal to zero actual ability to connect with them - all they see is an ideal they get to "love" (read: idolize and put on a pedestal).

They fake their actions, and deeper inside, they're just sexist scum who are also needy and desperate. For example, they shower the girl in flowers, but he doesn't care if she likes flowers or not. He has no idea. He just wants to make her love him, by indulging in behavior that he assumes that "girls like". In reality, he is just doing his own thing - he is too egocentric to be able to understand and connect with the girl.

He is just a creep.

[astrOnaut01]

A group of people so ostracised that they have their own trade mark.

[Mesonfielde]

@Jayded1 "Being nice" is a part of general courtesy and is basic social norm. People are generally expected to not be dicks. You don't really deserve a cookie for not being an asshole, beyond that people aren't assholes to you in response.

@astrOnaut01 they definitely put a whole lot of effort into achieving that.

[TheSkaFish]

What would you say is "zero to no ability to connect" with a girl? I once was getting to know this girl and we used to talk all the time for hours, used to share our real thoughts about things, she used to say all kinds of sweet things to me and acted genuinely interested in my life, like she really enjoyed our talks - in fact she said so. I didn't know at the time, but I guess she thought I was a "white knight". But it sure didn't feel like "zero ability to connect" to me.

In my case I'm nice to people I like. To me, if you like someone and enjoy having them in your life, then being nice to someone you like and care about is logical. Pretending to be uncaring is just hot-cold, push-pull games. Doesn't sound like much fun to me.

On the one hand, maybe no one deserves a cookie for not being an asshole. But on the other hand, a lot of guys get cookies exactly because they are a "cool", "tough", "edgy" asshole. The person who deserves even less actually gets more.

[Mesonfielde]

@TheSkaFish you might be able to connect well, but if they don't find you physically attractive (which is typically based on facial features), then you can be friends, but not romantic partners. But if you're connecting well as person to person, then you're not being a white knight.

A white knight is like this one www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1862929-i-hate-women-because-i-can-t-get-laid someone who desperately tries to get with "women", and see all women as a singular entity.

I guess I can simplify it a bit like this; if you're nice to the person because you like them as a person, then that's perfectly reasonable. If you're nice to the person exclusively because they're female, then that's more likely to be problematic. If you're nice to the person because you expect them to pay back the favor by getting emotionally attached to you and establish a romantic relationship with you, then you're manipulative and egocentric.

I feel like it's hard to explain if you've never been an entitled "nice guy™". It stems from mass generalization towards females.

[TheSkaFish]

Well, she did say something to the effect of me being good-looking. and i've heard that i am good-looking far more often than not. I think I look just fine.

I get taken for a "white knight" because I'm a mostly clean-cut, highly moral, non-confrontational kind of guy.

[Mesonfielde]

@TheSkaFish Looking fine might still not make them see you as attractive. I see many girls who clearly would attract certain dudes and the like, but aren't attractive to me at all. And no, that's not what makes a White Knight. The "White Knight" is a way of thinking, especially a way of thinking towards `women`. If you generalize all women, you're probably a nice guy. If you generalize all women and even suck up to them to try to get their approval, then you're a white knight.

[jacquesvol]

@Mesonfielde
We need white knight shaming.

[Holygirl01]

I don't like white knights. I believe everyone should be treated equal regards to their strength, sex and social status, sexuality and so on. These are the types of men who tend to get into fights with men for swearing at women and so on. They claim that women are weaker and therefore should be given leniency but what they don't realize is that everyone is of different strengths. They are just simply brainwashed by the society, they can't be helped.

[justbanANNAz]

not all of them do that of course, and as i said, men who aren't 'white knights' do the same and worse.

[Holygirl01]

You would be surprised how many would.

[justbanANNAz]

im not surprised. I'm just telling u it ain't good to generalise, because that's the very issue in the first place.

[Holygirl01]

You can't blame people for that. It's human nature to generalize.

[justbanANNAz]

i dont agree, but whatever.

[Mesonfielde]

They can only help themselves by realizing their mistakes.

--- from someone who used to be a Nice Guy™ before I knew how to apply empathy and how to stop seeing women as "women" and putting them on a pedestal; and instead see them as individual human beings. I cannot deny the error of my past, but I can clearly state what that error was now that I've learned how to change it to something not so detrimental sexist generalizing dehumanizing and silly.

[Jayded1]

What a mostly great take. I consider myself the "white knight" type. I've been called it for years, it isn't new. These days however many people call it sexist so it is getting attention. Id like to touch on parts I disagree with. Remember I agree with lots of this just I wouldn't be able to comment so much with 2500 characters. So let me explain from the mind of a white knight.

First off it isn't a "maiden in distress" it is anyone in distress. We are protective of everyone. The more unable to defend themselves the person is the stronger the urge to help becomes. This much stronger when it comes to family or partner but applies to complete strangers. So the reason it is sometimes seen as maiden in distress is because it is mostly likely to surface when we see men assaulting women.

I am self critical but I blame myself and not others. I do not manipulate, in fact that is the opposite of me. We are NOT Beta. Would a beta guy put himself in great danger to protect someone? Let me assure you if you get jumped by 6 guys in an alley and you are male or female and a white knight sees, the white knight will try to help you, The white knight trait is stronger then fear of anything. That is Alpha. The reason white knights are seen as beta is we tend to be pretty passive and understanding, when it comes to ourselves which is most of the time, that however is confidence. Confident people are usually passive, they don;t need to prove themselves to anyone. That again is not beta.

On a side note think of the white knights you may have known in your life. We share many things. I am betting they all have taken some form of self defense classes for example. We tend to work jobs that bring this personality trait out, firemen, cops, bouncers, security, social work, volunteers, generally helpful occupations.

One thing you mention is trying to be this personality type. Here is the thing. We all are who we are. We can't be something else. One reason we get flack is many guys think they can get laid if they are seen like this. So they fake it. They get exposed as the douche bags they are and it devalues the real ones.

Guys will hate on us mostly because they assume its fake, or they want it to be fake because it emasculates them. Lots of guys believe being a douche is what being a man is. So we threaten that. You can be nice yet still be strong and a man? Crazy.

[Jayded1]

It saddens me how many guys on here think being nice is an act to get pussy. Are true white knights really this rare?

[Jayded1]

@ConsultantIsBack keeps sending me trash talk messages then blocking me so I can't respond. How sad. I am not reading them, just deleting. I don't get dragged down to your level. So please stop.

[0112358]

I don't think you understand what the term means.

'White knights' are like 20% of the male population in most websites.

Being a strong backboned reasonable person who stands up for what's right is not being a white knight.

White knights don't stand up for what's right. They stick up for women right or wrong.

[justbanANNAz]

I'm sorry for all the shit you've had to bear.
i respect your opinion and i think you've made some great points here.

[Jayded1]

It isn't so bad. :)

[jacquesvol]

@Jayded1 Shame on you. I hope some red blooded normal guy reports you. I suspect you're P. C. too.

@sholism will win!
[sarcasm=OFF]

[Octavius]

The thing is I think you're using a definition that is different from how most people use it. Let me give a scenario.

Say a guy and girl are in a relationship. The girl is abusive both physically and mentally. She spits on him all the time and slaps kicks and straight up socks him in the face whenever she get annoyed. Say one day they're in public and for whatever reason the girl flies off the handle. She start beating him senseless. Full on punches to his face turning him to hamburger meat and swearing and cussing him out the whole time. He finally tries to defend himself and simply pushes her back a little just so he can create some distance and run. But before he can do that some other completely random dude comes out from nowhere and starts wailing on the first guy. The second guy does this because he saw the first guy put his hands on a woman (even if he wasn't trying to hurt her and was just trying to get away) so now the second guy is beating the hell out of the first guy simply because he thinks a woman is always the victim and it's always a mans fault and he wants to get in the good favor of the woman.

This kind of guy that will attack another male and "defend" the female regardless of the context or how malicious the female actually was is what people usually mean when they say white knight. Which is very different from what you described. I see that definition on urban dictionary that you used but I've never actually seen it ever used in that way.

[Octavius]

I think there's just a miscommunication. When a guy says white knight you're thinking of one kind of guy when they're actually referring to a completely different kind of guy. I do understand though that some guys abuse the term and call any guy that will take a girls side ever a white knight but they just are the opposite of the dbag white knights and instead of thinking women are always right always they think they're always wrong always.

[justbanANNAz]

nothing works with u guys lol. nothing i write works. but okay, thanks.

[Octavius]

I'm sorry :/

[Octavius]

by the way maybe I didn't make it clear I'm not trying to defend using terms in a derogatory sense I was just saying I think people are meaning two different things when they say it is all.

[justbanANNAz]

i know... I'm just venting a little. don't mind me.

[Octavius]

haha I understand. You having one of those days where people are just being turds to you for no good reason?(that really disturbing gif those guys are posting everywhere is getting on my nerves too)

If it means anything I do appreciate the take. You always write well thought out takes. It takes a tough skin to deal with the pointless backlash you get.

[justbanANNAz]

thanks.

[astrOnaut01]

@justbanANNAz Okay, since you won't have a discussion with me I'll just tell you that I was pretty much going to say the same as what @Octavius said.

[TheSkaFish]

To me, a White Knight is just a regular guy, but who derives a lot of their identity from their high morals. This has become ever more challenging in a society that seems to place ever more value on "edginess" and mocks morality as lame. It's not that I'm moral because I'm too afraid to be anything else. That's not it at all. I'm moral because I was raised that way, and now that I'm old enough to compare it to other lifestyles, I choose it. It makes sense to treat the people I care about nicely.

I'm also moral because the "bad boy" lifestyle has always seemed like a dead end. Why start down a path that I already know most likely leads to prison or an early grave? How is that worthwhile? Seems like a waste.

I would say I'm a nice guy, but I don't call myself a "Nice Guy" or a "White Knight" because I don't like to draw myself into a limiting box. The only "bad" things I've ever really done are smoke weed (which I quit over 3 years ago) and psychedelics (which I've never had often, and don't believe are "bad"). Other than that, I'm nice and friendly to those I care about and at least neutral to anyone until they give me a reason not to be. It just gets frustrating when everyone thinks you're a pussy because you want to live in a nicer, friendlier world instead of a heartless, hyper-competitive macho one, in a race to the bottom to see who can be the lewdest, crudest, trashiest. That sounds like a miserable world.

I believe it's very possible to be interesting, confident, fun, attractive, and still sweet, friendly, and nice. That's what I aim to be.

[TheSkaFish]

So in conclusion @justbanANNAz , thank you for speaking up in defense of people who are just trying to be decent in an increasingly cynical world. Maybe if more people thought this way we could turn culture around cause it's getting really mean-spirited these days but I don't think it has to be like that.

"But most of all...

I strongly believe this so called "White Knight" has amazing potential to become a Dark Horse. "

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this. Maybe it could be your next Take!

[justbanANNAz]

this input is invaluable, thank you.
i appreciate the kind comments.

[jacquesvol]

@TheSkaFish
Shame on you!

[TheSkaFish]

@jacquesvol , I could just be missing the sarcasm but I'm confused. By your other posts on this thread, we seem to be in agreement.

Shame on me for what?

[jacquesvol]

@TheSkaFish
Shame for saying positive words about the horrible white knights, of course.

[TheSkaFish]

@jacquesvol ah yes. I know, I'm such a fool for being a decent person. I should be aspiring to work at Bullshit Brothers investment bank being an insufferable narcissist and have games with my fellow i-banker "frenemies" to see who can get the most DUI's in a month.

Or perhaps I should aspire to be a beer-bellied, tattooed, junkie slob sitting in on a Harley all day in my driveway, farting and belching, with a pistol in one hand and a bottle of Jack Daniel's in the other, and when women say anything to me at all I respond with "shuddup bitch! git your ass back in tha house!"

I know. Us stupid nice guys, don't we know that being crude and unpleasant is "just how guys are supposed to be"?

[jacquesvol]

@TheSkaFish
Congrats. You might become an alpha male some day. :)
Just get them biatches respect ya.

[TheSkaFish]

@jacquesvol bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks, gnomesayin'?

So, how should I start my alpha male quest? I was thinking of robbing a bank but that might be a little ambitious, so I think I'll just stick to liquor stores for now. Then with the money I steal I'll hit up the tattoo parlor, get some sleeves, then just stand in a wifebeater, or better yet shirtless outside of a dive bar while making a "tough guy" face, you know, the one where they look constipated. Gotta up my posturing game. Then after a long day of being a negative, destructive pain in everyone's ass for no good reason, I'll wash it down with a nice dinner consisting solely of crack cocaine.

Being nice is stupid! YEAH!

[I_am_repulsive]

I would never limit myself; I simply use whatever has been given to me as best as possible and so I don't ever believe in alpha/beta shit, as well as out of someone's league. If you already think that way and believe in that shit then obviously you stand no chance whatsoever with that said person you desire and/or you'll always be a beta. I think most people via the guys here in gag, has labelled me as a "White Knight" many times and has used my username to try and insult me; it was supposed to be ironic, but it failed on my part I guess. Having said that, it doesn't really bother me at all and I could also out troll and out insult just about anyone out there. In any case, there is a difference between white knighting and kissing someone's ass and most of them that do kisses someone's ass are that self proclaimed nice guys or the push over ones. Going back to the topic, there's nothing wrong with defending someone from an asshole, specially those who doesn't deserve it in the first place, but most of them white knighters out there do have an ulterior motive and I'll leave it at that.

[justbanANNAz]

love this a lot.

[TheSkaFish]

" I would never limit myself; I simply use whatever has been given to me as best as possible and so I don't ever believe in alpha/beta shit, as well as out of someone's league. If you already think that way and believe in that shit then obviously you stand no chance whatsoever with that said person you desire and/or you'll always be a beta."

Good on you for saying this, and for staying a good guy against the tidal wave of douchebaggery. The "league" system and "alpha/beta" is a trap.

[HikerDude]

The issue that guys have with so-called 'white knights' is that they're enablers, what they enable is female entitlement.

Most young women in American society have a powerful sense of entitlement, a deep-seated belief that they're deserving of Cadillac treatment simply for having female sexual organs. The seeds of this belief are planted first by dad. Too many dads today are almost scared of their daughters, they having been brought up to fear female tears because girls are sugar and spice and blah blah blah.

Once girls reach high school, if they're even reasonably attractive, they have guys from 14 to 55 falling all over themselves to get with them. Many of these guys are white knights who've been indoctrinated with this false belief that girls are a special category of humans deserving of special of consideration. These guys are the ass-sniffers who follow these girls around telling them how wonderful they are, and how men aren't even worthy of her.

All of this attention and, well, sucking up only reinforces their sense of entitlement and exceptionalism. These girls then end up as the undatable little princesses who will likely remain beyond redemption until they've gone through a long growth period.

[Unit1]

Got called a white knight for loving females. I don't give a fuck about it.

First of all, I don't believe in that bullshit alpha-beta male concept because it's not true and just plain bullshit.
Secondly - dare I say so - many of these self proclaimed alphas or guys, who think they are alpha are in fact VERY insecure, who need to prove their masculinity and alphaness by bashing others, especially those, who have some business with girls which makes them just dickheads. No one in their right mind wants that toxicity in their life.
Thirdly a white knight has an unstable meaning and can be passed from one to another like STDs for simply as much as interacting with girls in a humane and gentle manner.
Fourthly - That term white knight used to describe guys, who do anything for girls including worshipping the ground she walks on and protect a girl even when she is the attacker and her victim is male and steps right up in her favor and expects sex as his reward.

White knight is not a term worth using.

[justbanANNAz]

THANK YOUUUU.

[AleDeEurope]

A White Knight is basically a guy who will take the girl's side even when she's in the wrong, just so he can get something from her, they're basically the Internet equivalent of a nice guy.
How can someone respect a guy who will go against everything he stands for just to get some "online pussy"?

The problem is that some insecure losers will call a guy White Knight whenever you take a girl's side.
Like when there's those women-hating questions here in GAG and you call them out on that, you get labeled a White Knight. Ridiculous.

I have nothing against the use of White Knight, after all, it's just a way to describe one type of guy, but it does irk me when people don't know when to use it.
We're gonna end up calling a guy a White Knight even when he defends a girl that's getting beat up... tsk tsk smh

[TheBraveLion]

This ^^

[astrOnaut01]

I agree. Spot on.

[justbanANNAz]

i didn't use that definition, but apparently it is a well known one. i just don't see how a guy on the internet got his own label. who said he'll necessarily go against what he stands for? who said he ACTUALLY wants to get laid? how can u tell? i think that's just judging them because they're nice. It's more up to the girl to decide what his intentions are, not any other man to label him that way.

yeah that second part is basically what I'm getting at. the term is too loosely thrown around, and it's a term that makes no sense.

[AleDeEurope]

@Jayded1 Never said that. Just because someone is nice it doesn't mean it's an act, but when you defend a girl that, for example, cheated on his boyfriend because he wasn't there that night she was feeling horny, saying it was all his fault, then yeah, that's an act, a pathetic White Knight act.
Being nice to a girl that doesn't deserve it, just because she's hot, is clearly an act.

[Humping_Tornadoes]

Ale dropping knowledge as usual. Good one

[AleDeEurope]

@Humping_Tornadoes Thanks man :)

[skeptic007]

what he said white knights ruin shit

[Phoenix98]

Well your article is wrong about a couple of things, but your mytake is overall right.

Unfortunately we are what society and the people in it, label us, I didn't ask to be given a kind heart or to be labeled a 'white knight', I am however no white knight, I do however do respect those with that kind of mentality if they aren't acting like idiots. There's a lot of controversy, stereotypes, idiocy and the like surrounding them. That need to be put to rest, some of them will be after this mytake is read, hopefully people will read it and heed it.

This is a good take on a somewhat touchy subject with a lot of good information in it and of course it's good to see that someone at least someone doesn't have a negative view towards the actual good ones. In this day and age of insufferable and egomaniacal people, we need to be thankful for the actual good people in it and instead of being mean and cruel to them we should instead educate on how to better act well towards both genders and encourage them.

[Polocrew]

Lol this happened week before school

Me and my friend shewbatski was having fun with people we know standing by locker in hallroom, He grabbed some chicks ass randomly (someone he know and is his friend). She pushed him without turning back to see who he is but then when she figured it was shewbatski, She told him that she was just not in mood and didn't meant that but some little nerdy dude showed up in this situation and tried to push shewbatski. Shewbatski is also 6'6 230sh and that nerdy dude was like 130 pounds or something lol He tried pushing shewbatski and then when my friend pushed him back, He came bak for more to push him again. Shewbatski just grabbed him and kinda threw him on floor and then that nerdy dude started bitching about how he got bullied when he started fight lol and they both ended up in counsellor office

That's a white knight and It happened wayy too fast for me to react but if it happen again, I know I am kicking that kids ass cos he had no business coming in lol

[TheHooptyMiata]

We've all had an experience with the dreaded white knight. Mine came at a frat party a couple months back. Been gaming this chick all night, we leave and go to my car - and find a Hyundai blocking me in.

Cue kicking off, 'whichever cunt owns the blue Hyundai outside, move your damn car' being yelled through the karaoke, and general pissed off-ness. I figure whoever it is probably just arrived after me, parked there without thinking and is now too lazy to move it, so I crack a beer and decide I'll gather some dudes to lift his car outta the driveway in a few minutes. Still with the girl by the way, she's getting annoyed that I won't leave my car and get a cab, but I need my car for the morning so I'm between a rock and a hard place.

I get a tap on the shoulder. I turn and see some skinny, Shaggy-from-Scooby-Doo-looking dude. 'What's up buddy?'
'I blocked your car in, I saw you pull up in it so I know it's yours, you were gonna drive with that girl drunk'
'So what, why's that your problem?'

[TheHooptyMiata]

'You shouldn't drive drunk and I won't let you endanger this girl's life'
'You better shut the fuck up and move your car buddy'
'No, I did that to stop you breaking the law and harming this woman'
She then says 'Just move the car you scrawny fuck'
Still refuses. Argument ensues. Kid is clearly trying to run some shitty game to steal the pussy, but it's not working.

Eventually we lifted his car outta the way and kicked him out of the party, but it ruined what should've been a sick night.

TL;DR white knights ruin everything, and they don't even get laid from it.

[Polocrew]

@TheHooptyMiata lmao who invited that nerdy ass anyway lol Inb4 TKE, shouldn't have rushed there brah lol ded at "just mvoe scrawny fuk" lol

[TheHooptyMiata]

I have no idea, don't think he was even at college, haven't seen him on campus ever. Yeah, that chick was savage as fuck haha :D

[Polocrew]

@TheHooptyMiata lol found him brah

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[TheHooptyMiata]

HAHAHA, fucking brilliant

[Joc4Position]

😂😂😂😂

[Phoenix98]

I would actually call that just being an idiot and not having the facts.

[Polocrew]

@Phoenix98 yea because it is that, Why'd you barge in on random dude thrice your size and then bitch about bullying after starting a fight with him lol

[Phoenix98]

well size really doesn't mean anything I've beaten guys twice my size before, the human body even in one muscular as yours is, is incredibly weak and vulnerable against someone who is trained in hand to hand and knows were to strike, but that is beside the point.

I wouldn't call him a white knight but rather just some kid who is to big for his britches, and got in over his head, now if you or your buddy had hit the women or were holding her there against her will then that is were it would be appropriate to intervene at that point. But it just sounds like it was a regular old argument and he thought it was something different, which happens *shrugs* he shouldn't have barged in when there was nothing wrong and he shouldn't have started a fight he couldn't have finished or won and then whined about being bullied. As a fighter I just view that as disgraceful.

[Polocrew]

@Phoenix98 yep but he still did lol It was kinda stupid to just drop in without knowing shit and then bitching about getting bullied after it lol

[Phoenix98]

I'd be inclined to agree.

[JSmuve]

My biggest problem with white knights is their tendency to treat women better than they treat men. They assume that women should get some sort of preferential treatment to guys just because they're women and guys get relegated to being second class citizens. I can't stand that way of thinking. I've been on the receiving end of that treatment several times and it pisses me off. I always end of feeling devalued.

White knights end up giving some women a false sense of their own value relative to every one else and it needs to stop.

[justbanANNAz]

thank u for wording that civilly.

[JSmuve]

I'm all about civility! You know me 😝

[justbanANNAz]

i totally do, and i admire that a lot.

[JSmuve]

Awww you're making me blush like a little school girl 😳

[justbanANNAz]

haha sorry felicity! :D

[JSmuve]

Hey! You said we were gonna keep that name between us! Now the whole community knows our little secret. 😲😲

[justbanANNAz]

oh man i stuffed up again -.-
forgive me. don't worry no one's looking.

[jacquesvol]

@JSmuve @brandog0
' civility' is a prohibited word on the Internet.
I hope someone reports these obscenities.

[AlphaAussie]

Well, Ted Bundy was a White Knight and you could say so was Hannibal the Cannibal towards Agent Starling. Two personalities women probably should proceed slowly with when dating.

That, in a nutshell is the problem with White Knights, THEY ARE FAKE. They are unable to muster the courage to ask women out, so fearful of rejection they try to curry favour simply by always agreeing with women, being good beta resource providers and attacking normal men. The Norman Bates character in Pyscho was a White Knight to the nines. Deep down so fearful of women he would do anything for "Mother" or any other woman until his rage exploded in femicide. That was a movie but also a dead wringer for Edmund Kemper, the "co-ed killer" of six young women.

Now of course I am not saying all WKs are serial killers but they all to varying degrees have a deep seated fear of women and loathing for their own gender. It's not uncommon for WKs to come from single mother households where they grew up with a mothers passive resentment and her poor opinions of males.

You should be extremely careful of White Knights cause they have a lot of issues hidden under their servitude towards you.

[SomeOtherGuy]

Men caring about what men think when it comes to how to treat, date, and respect women is pretty ass-backwards.

If you want advice on how to handle and attract women, take advice from women, not guys. Most of them are genuinely interested in having their needs fulfilled, and will explain them to you in no hidden terms.
Just remember every person is different, and raised differently. If you want a specific woman with specific interests, find out what the women in that circle are like and what they think.

But don't go putting weight into advice from dudes on how to handle women. That's absolutely counter-productive.

[justbanANNAz]

we're basically agreeing. yeah.

[SomeOtherGuy]

Yea I'm just saying this for the guys in this thread. They need to not put weight into how other dudes see them when it comes to how they treat the women in their lives.

Seriously, if you're a dude, stop taking advice on how to treat women from other dudes.

[justbanANNAz]

oh ok. well that is good advice. I've always said this and never understood why some men ask about something relating to women, then don't listen to the advice of women lmao.

[SomeOtherGuy]

Yea, it's pretty nonsensical. But not everyone on this earth practices logic. The people I run into around here have proven that.

[ArtDent]

Women give advice on how to be a doormat who can be used by women.

[SomeOtherGuy]

@ArtDent Women don't want doormats. Neither do dudes.
Your logic is kinda shit man.

Do men give good advice to women on how to treat men? What's your viewpoint there.
Or do you believe only men should be giving relationship advice?
Kinda Shitlord aren'tcha?

[ArtDent]

Women want BOTH doormats AND guys that give them tingles.

[ArtDent]

Men aren't the same way, men don't want a bunch of silly girls we don't find attractive hanging around to prime our ego.

Women are validation seekers and are strickly utilitarian when it comes to men.

[SomeOtherGuy]

@ArtDent Again, no man or woman, especially those with a healthy mentality, wants a doormat.
A doormat doesn't fulfill needs.

Look into Maslow's Hierachy of needs some time.
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A doormat doesn't fulfill these.

[SomeOtherGuy]

@ArtDent Open up some sociology and psychology books some time.

[ArtDent]

I am NOT proposing that these women want doormats to DATE/MATE, buddy. I'm saying women like having doormats around to validate them while they fuck the men who makes their gina tingle and, who, by definition, don't need advice,

Therefore I don't regard any advice from a woman to a man as being motivated to help that individual man make another woman's gina tingle, but rather see them motivated to perpetuate a system which produces for them men to fuck and men to give them free validation.

[RaggaMon]

The main problem I have is the insincerity, it's a dude who lacks so he can't just be honest about things like everyone else- all that fucking clean-cut sweetness and mild mannered meekness. It's like they've been taken over by a horrible creepy little pretentious spirit, they need an exorcism, and by exorcism, I mean beating.

[RaggaMon]

@Jayded1 you don't begin a sentence with "and". Really you're just full of bullshit and assumptions, where did I say being nice must be an act? How do you know being nice is alien to me? How do you know I couldn't best you, tie something round your ankles, hoist you upside down, bleed you into a bowl and make some boudin noir? You know nothing, you just assume all this shit because, well, look at you. Being nice is fine, if it's genuine, if it's not- you're a white knight. I never said being nice makes you a white knight, you jumped to that conclusion. Within the context of the Take my comment refers to white knights, not people in general. Fucking sensitive, over the hill marital arts practitioner. (don't get butthurt, this shit isn't as serious for me as it is for you)

[justbanANNAz]

i can see your point but id appreciate it if u worded it nicely.

[RaggaMon]

I'm sorry 'nANNAz.

[justbanANNAz]

that's alright.

[oddwaffle]

The only problem with White Knights is that he tends to force his values up on other people and the rest of the world. He fails to see that there are 2 sides for each coin and you can only pick one.

He gets angry when stuff doesn't go the way he thought they would be. When bad guys aren't really bad guys but just people terrified, marginalized, hungry and desperate. He can't see that for each and every maiden in distress there is a dragon that has a life of its own, not just the prison guard.

The white knight is a knight type. I never like these types. They are born as servant to others. The type too simple minded to make the decision necessary when shit hits the fan. The white knight is the worst of the lot because he can't get off his high horse and see the world from the eyes of a peasant. The type getting sniped from a well hidden position or just stab lowly peasants with his spear.

[justbanANNAz]

thanks for your civil input.

[jacquesvol]

"bad guys aren't really bad guys but just people terrified, marginalized, hungry and desperate."
I luv that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7TT4jnnWys

[CHARismatic110]

👏👏👏

Yassss! First of all, I hate that Alpha/Beta bullshit. Like who even determines who gets labelled as what? Most, if not all, "Alpha" males are self proclaimed and they're usually douchebags. I never understood the negative connotations towards white Knights either. No, I don't need saving from a guy, but every guy that agrees with a female isn't out to save them! I've seen it so much on here. Girl posts opinion. Guy agrees. "Alpha" assholes come running in with their muscle tanks, talking shit. It's extremely annoying.

[d3adn1nja]

In context White Knights and Mr. Nice Guys are on equal field here. With Knights being more fucked up vs nice guys, both parties bitch and cry and do everything for one thing only "to get laid". And then they bitch that girls don't want nice guys and bla bla bla. Nope. Girl's don't want a spineless piece of shit that can't stand their ground. A woman/girl is another human being, if you don't like something you say it. They dump you? Well to bad, that's life, at least you acted like a man and expressed your opinion.

Now it doesn't mean you have to be an asshole/bad boy to get woman. In fact being a decent guy will do the trick with not only women but with the rest of the world. Being just a decent person can get you far in life.

[justbanANNAz]

this. ^

[d3adn1nja]

what she said. ^

[lumos]

With "white knights", I understand how they can be annoying in the sense that they're just being nice or helpful in the hopes of getting laid. However, I see this term get thrown around A LOT, like even if a guy just shares the same opinion as a girl, suddenly he's a damned white knight. As if you're not even allowed to agree with a girl without it being some kind of scheme to get brownie points? Or as if the opinions of girls are always, somehow, invalid.

[justbanANNAz]

yeah I'm basically on the exact same page. it's really irritating.

[lumos]

Yeah. It's pretty obvious that those who are quick to label others as white knights, are bitter. Like they can't even handle seeing a guy wanting anything to do with women. Lol.

[SomeOtherGuy]

Funny thing is how much this applies to people in general.

Go argue against conservatives, or liberals. MRAs and Feminists. You'll immediately hear them call you the opposite of what they are in order to difference themselves from you as much as possible.

It's a tactic people use so that they have an excuse not to empathize or feel compassion.

[Rei02]

I think That White knights like charming princes are Just a myth, lies nurtured since generations ago because women independence Was limited. Those stories were just to disguise the truth to their children about relationships: that the guy or girl chosen for them Was the perfect match, the "true love", flawless. In reality, the "chosen one" Was whose union With the son or daughter was benefit for the parents and/or society.

The positive things, however, are related to hard work and determination in a goal which is not necessary a relationship.

Nowadays, women have become more independent, so a more modern White knight version could be a guy Who is human With both positive and negative traits. But most importantly is that both can help and support each other in the adversities and to grow up, no one is over the other.

[Mistnigqa808]

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https://i.qkme.me/3sk0ty.jpg nice 😂😂😂

I wouldn't mind them if they actually helped out both genders while going about their "white knighting" in this or that situation. Since currently, all they seem to do is take the woman's side 99% of the time without any questions asked. Like how in the hell could I respect that type of guy? And most only seem to do it now, because they're hoping that "said girl" will give them some "internet kisses or sex IRL".

[Mistnigqa808]

I liked the take tho ^_^

[Joc4Position]

You're exactly right. A lot of them guys try to exchange dignity for pussy.

[Polocrew]

They all would probably not do shit irl and prolly bitch about getting bullied if did lol

[Mistnigqa808]

@Polocrew agreed since I've yet to meet 1 of these "white knights" IRL.

@Joc4Position LMAO but the saddest thing is "they never seem to get the PUSSY", right? Nope, all they defend ___'s honor while she goes on about her day as if anything never happened. And naw I'm not saying that she OWES them ANYTHING.. cuz she doesn't.

[Polocrew]

Yea they are usually skinny little nerdy ones with glasses and neckbeards brah, Don't forget to RKO em when u see em lol

[Joc4Position]

@Polocrew Neckbeards 😂😂

[Mistnigqa808]

@Polocrew I'd rather just smack the #Armor off his bitch ass LOL i1127.photobucket.com/.../...lhgicbQLea1qc3nmy.gif

[PizzaGuy22]

AHAHAHA holy shit that gif

[KDA20]

I think you summed it up nicely when you say every personality type has its positives and negatives. I agree the "White Knight" backlash is being fuelled by the "Alpha" culture which I find funny because I always say on here if you have to say how "Alpha" you are, you come across to me as distinctly ahem "Beta".
As you say absolutely wrong with being a decent/nice guy, in fact I think more people should try it.

[justbanANNAz]

thank you for actually understanding what I'm trying to say.

[Bluemax]

"I find funny because I always say on here if you have to say how "Alpha" you are, you come across to me as distinctly ahem "Beta"."

True dat. Thanks for inspiring my next question.

[KDA20]

@Bluemax Look forward to seeing the question

[Bluemax]

It's up now. Check it out.