Sour Grapes: Men - No, BOYS - Who Hate Women Because They Can't Get Them (Page 2)
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I agree with this Take
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Like we get it, some guys get butthurt at rejection. Some recover and some become woman haters. A new take popping up every other day discussing it gets old quickly. Nothing new is ever said
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I'm adding Nice Guys to this list of subjects that are dead horses. This needs some closure. We get it, Nice guys suck and I've met some guys who are like this. They suck
This website is nothing more than an echo chamber
Or to put it less offensively, if a man likes a women he needs to approach her. Because a) if the woman likes him she is even more unlikely to approach him and b) women find being approached evocative. Yes, often they will despise a man for approaching her ("what a creep!"), but sometimes they will be really impressed by it. You have to hope for the latter.
The hate is generated because men come to believe in a certain set of rules for being attractive, and they don't work. They can be completely themselves, honest, courteous, fair, giving, etc, just as TV tells them to and be completely unloved - despite approaching women they like.
Or they'll say things like "women are so stuck-up, women are so shallow, women only want a guy who is x y or z"
... well, do you really want to be with someone who is shallow? Do you really want to be with someone who is stuck up? If you approach a woman and you honestly believe the reason she rejects you is that she only wants rich guys, well why are you mad? You wouldn't want to be with someone so shallow like that anyway.
I love it when guys say they only want a girl who is x y or z, cause then I know those are the guys I should stay away from.
Newsflash! Most of the time YOU ARE STUCK UP!
@Frustrated2016
I'm sorry you're frustrated, but it sounds like you didn't fully read my opinion. Or if you did read the whole thing, then you seem to be struggling with comprehension. This is why people complain about guys like you. You just read the first part of my opinion, that mentioned guys complain women are so stuck up. And you responded to that part in an insulting tone, instead of responding to the rest of what I said.
So I will repeat: Do you really want to be with someone who is stuck up? If people who are stuck up really bother you that much, why are you trying to date stuck up women? If you approach a lady who looks nice, but upon talking to her it turns out she is a stuck-up bitch who immediately rejects you, well honestly it sounds like you dodged a bullet there my friend.
I think it's ok to hate. In the end, they're hating nothing more than themselves.
And it feels good to have some hate. Let's not be hypocrites about it. It's an emotion that makes us humans.
That's true to an extent, but they'll end up hating themselves... and ruin their own lives in the process.
I see hate as a phase. It's important to have gone through it, so we can understand when we someone hating something that we consider a stupid reason to hate, and remind ourselves that we have once been that person too.
Hate is only temporary, apathy lasts forever
@mir13 Which one is better?
Depends on what you define as better. If you mean better for the individual, then yes, being apathetic is much better as you go through life doing what you enjoy and avoid much of the nonsense that comes with relationships.
@mir13 wouldn't it also feel shallow? empty?
One can only fool himself up to a point.. solitude touches everyone
@mikemx55 Life in general is a shallow meaningless existence. We are all just travelers waiting for the last stop. Observe those around you for long enough, their misery, their hopes and dreams crushed by reality, and you realize that all their effort has been for naught.
@mir13 damn!! That touched my feelings
You tell 'em girl , so tired of these butt hurt men on here !
@Stacyzee, when I break my foot off in your ass for playing games you'll be butt hurt as well! Muhahah!
Equality between genders, and I am the one that has to make moves, pay for almost everthing, be funny, be fit, be handsome, be intelligent, be smart be well groomed, somewhat wealthy, understand every need of a woman, take care of her, give her rides, surprise her, stay calm when she is regularly bitchy, put up with all the excuses she makes to turn me down in bed... and all she has to do is to wear make up to hide her imperfections and make her look better, and take care of the house? Yeah thats the equality that I am talking about. Hmm, a few close friends and a fleshlight is much less effort :D
fleshlight dude lol
I agree with the myTake... for the most part.
But at the same time this myTake is written in such a way that it makes the editor seem like just as sour a grape.
I don't see any real concrete non-biased arguments, but instead a bunch of ranting based on personal experiences. I guess it is a "myTake" though...
we have the right to be upset, and if the tables turned and men didn't want women. what will the women think then. i hope in the future we men will evolve to not need you girls and your so called desired love and sex. because your all so fake when it comes to those things, and its probably why guys end up being players, and treat girls the same way girls treat guys.
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Ever try being rejected on every single try? I have the balls to ask, but I keep getting rejected by not only one, but all of them.
Maybe I have misogynist views, but I hate how women have such sky high expectations. I mean, nowadays, they want the top 10 men, even if they're not that hot.
I mean, if she looked like Julia Roberts, sure. But even the plain Janes are acting like divas these days. It's ridiculous.
There are studies that show most men actually hate women to an extent subconsciously. it has to do wither their mom and lack of a father figure. And that women subconsciously fear men to the point that they hate them.
A little confused, "most men" dont hate women. Or do you mean most men who grew up without a dad hate women?
@Cosytoasty they said most men. They didn't need an absent father but they said all men at some point where attracted to their mothers. And since they knew it was wrong they grew resentment. But im not sure if its true, I've just seen the studies
ooookayyy then. Not sure i want to delve into that really so i'll take your word for it xD. I think the reason is a lot less left field and it's just good old fashioned self-pity but that's just me.
@Cosytoasty in a way yea. They are allowing themselves to be a victim vs dealing with the issues.
"but they said all men at some point where attracted to their mothers. "
Thats Freud and he's been mostly debunked
@Waffles731 yes, i know just about everything frued has said has been debunked by neuroscience. But i know this is one thing neuroscience or some neuroscientist still beleive is true.
You study a lot of neuroscience?
@Waffles731 i literally watched an interview of a neuroscientist about this very subject like a week ago. And. yea i do like neuroscience
This is just a good MyTake.
It's funny because when I look at the comment section, it's like men didn't even read it.
So many people blame others for their problem. I see so many bitter men on here. I don't even know men like that in real life. It's like they decide to create a force full of bitterness on this website.
They want a girl, yet they seem to hate all of them. There really is something I don't get about this all mess
some guys are like that, but actually did approach and try and they failed many times. and got bitter over time. i could relate to them. i had friends who were like this. most changed when they got a woman. i do feel bad for them. i think they get a bit unnecessary hate... i dont see them harming women.. most of them just kinda.. not bother with women, thats all
I respect a guy that has the balls to ask for my number
@Tanisha69 is that number yours or did you hand them a phony number?
@Frustrated2016 I dont give fake numbers I just say no if not interested
Over and over again men who can't get laid are ridiculed by women for being losers.
Then we sit around wondering why they're so bitter they can't get laid. As bough the rejection and frustration wasn't enough.
The only 'ridicule' I see is bitter men ridiculing the 'sluts and whores who've been around the block and back' for not seeing how nice of a guy they're missing out on.
@kaylaS91 then you're not paying attention. Once you see it, it's constant. Along with suggesting they are broke and living in their parents basement; saying guys are 'bitter losers who can't get laid' is pretty much the standard insult throw at men (while women are by default called sluts, bitches or ugly).
Anyway I'm not optimistic anything will change. For a few guys dating comes easy, most at some point learn that for men womens attraction is something you have to work for and earn and the expectations for you are radically different from the expectations you have for women.
The only question is whether they can learn that lesson without becoming total douchebags.
mm... nope. Don't see it. Not in reality, at least.
Those guys aren't really losers. They just can't make the effort to even say as much as "hello" to the women that they like.
@Shorty1991 I never called them 'losers' but you're right on the latter part.
@kaylaS91 sorry that wasn't in reply to you. That was meant for the anon.
@kaylaS91 it's everywhere.
And I'm not trying to say it's as bad or justifies women being shamed. Both suck.
Seriously though every question or myTake here that turns into a flame war half the women are accusing guys of being angry virgins.
personally I LOVE women. I DESPISE narcissists. Unfortunately due to feminist fallacies, narcissistic women are the norm now... but that just means it's like 1/5 are worth it, the other 4 are worth blowing off within a month... and you usually gotta block them after that to get rid of them...
You can't blame feminism... that's like blaming someone for leaving a wallet full of cash for it being stolen. The thief existed long before the wallet of cash was left on the floor...
maybe they just get pissed off at you because you complain about them all the time.
i get finding it annoying, i do too, but you're not helping by being so relentlessly bitchy. it makes you look about as petty tbh
Bitter men who hate women are not worth it. The guy I'm dating has had trouble attracting women but he's not bitter and hateful about it so I give him some credits for it. It takes a lot of strength to overcome that. The guys you're describing are so weak.
Says the woman who is anonymous...
@Centerino so? Anonymous is allowed here but if the shoe fits feel free to wear it.
I just find your comment ironic, that's all. I am not picking a fight here. :)
@Centerino says number one xper...
@99percentangel You're showing your age here...
@Centerino so are you...
I can't think of a better way to say this but can you all please cheer up here. He said he wasn't trying to pick a fight and I understand. It's okay to have a healthy debate but now it seems like you all are starting to attack each other.
Lmao wasn't attacking anyone. I was agreeing with what you said anon.
@99percentangel good, thank you
And if that "weak dude" suddenly tore off in your ass would he still be weak?
"Blaming the other sex for not saying 'yes' to the question you didn't have the ba**s to ever even ask..."
I think I love you Sally...
i guess somewhere its true for some guys. i dont hate women though, seems a bit extreme to hate an entire gender.