The Sad Truth Is: Men Don't Like Natural Women

I speak from experience, and this is definitely not meant to offend any of our fellow men or women!

Growing up in a city with 1 million people- mostly white collar, I had some interesting friends. I remember speaking with my 2 male best friends; both of whom were quite intelligent. They described their perfect woman as being the "girl next door", natural, humble, funny and smart. One of them finished medical school, while the other went on to work for a large company in the IT field.

Well, a year later, after many girls next door and the door over (lol), they both had girlfriends... And to my surprise... the bitchy, face-full-of-makeup, high maintenance and certainly demanding girlfriends they chose were not at all what the "perfect girl" was described as.

So I asked the witty, doctor- why this girl? She isn't exactly the "girl next door"! And his response was simple; "LOOK at her!". Well I took it at face value. I mean she was beautiful, and confident and certainly sexy... and NOT at all the natural, humble, oh so sweet and simple.

I later connected with the IT friend of mine, to talk over coffee, and I was still determined to get an answer to my curiosity. I mean he went from dating the girls next door, to settling with a high fashion princess. He laughed a bit and said, "they are all the same and boring, these girls next door, I mean just because of her (gf) looks people assume she is some sort of bitch- but she is just so... I don't know confident and alluring?"

I smiled and said "she isn't at all the 'type' you were looking for?" He looked at me and said; "I'm a guy, guys are seen as the 'bad' boys, and guys should want the girl next door right? I want a girl that takes care of herself, and any guy who tells you he doesn't care how his girl looks... well he isn't honest. I worked hard to get to where I am- I have a house, a good job and a nice car- call it shallow but I don't want a plain Jane".

"So you'll take a high maintenance, demanding girl over a girl next door?" I asked. He paused and said "yeah, others girls are jealous of her and I get that. We walk into a room and every guy with his 'Plain Jane' girlfriend is staring at my woman. That guy wants my girl, one way or another- some just don't wanna put up with the BS".

Later that night, I thought about what he said. I mean it's true: When a beautiful girl walks in, all the men turn their heads to look. It doesn't mean they want to date her, maybe its just sexual attraction. But what does it all come down to? It comes down to the fact that as my 2 male friends grew successful, they went from wanting a girl next door to wanting a hot, confident, demanding girl (perhaps one they couldn't attain before they were high up in the food chain).

I want a good girl, no makeup, just natural... says the guy who ends up with the pretty princess. ;)


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  • Moral of the story: people are full of shit. What people say they want and what they wind up going for are two different things. Pay attention to people's actions, not their words. Actions are far more telling.

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  • Completely disagree. Guys don't want a girl with a face you can wipe off and boobs you can pop with a needle.

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  • I think there's a happy medium between totally made-up/high maintenance and "Plain Jane." Right?

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  • Superficial persons prefer looks over personality.

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  • I know many women with a "face full of makeup" who are funny, humble and quite intelligent.
    If you don't want to spend so much time taking care of yourself feel free to be "au naturel", but I frankly don't care what you think I should be attracted to or what you consider "not fake".

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  • When she refers to men , she is not talking about the average Joe here, she is talking about the handsome or more Chad like type of guys.

    The guys that actually do go for the plain Jane's are not only invisible to her, they are also invisible to the plain Jane's.

    This is why you will always see stuff like this written by girls here and in the media... the guys that actually do as they say are not visible to them.

    TLDR, see the picture of the crowded street below...

    rantsofanincel.files.wordpress.com/.../capture1.png

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  • Just like how girls lie about liking "nice guys" with confidence and instead go for bad boys, guys lie about wanting average girls next doors and instead go for the most attractive and classy women available.

    I feel it would be better if men and women didn't lie to each other and just told the truth.

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  • Its hardly as simple as you make it out to be. For example I hope we can all agree that the modelling industry has gone a bit haywire with editing, model selection and makeup to create the "ideal woman". The thing is there have been a few notable experiments where they show unedited photos or photos where the models were not actually professional models or did not wear makeup and noticed an increase in views.

    Basically while there is certainly a point in dressing up and looking pretty I believe there is plenty to be said for "normal looks" not to mention that if someone dressed up every day I would stop consider it to be special in the first place.

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  • Maybe your friends told you the truth about wanting a girl next door at that stage of their life. But people can change over time, and when they become richer, more powerful, or more beautiful, they often start hanging with a different crowd. I'd guess that the richer you are, the more decadent and corrupt the environment becomes. That can change your attitudes about things. Rich guys are targeted more by the shallow, high-maintenance but hot women you described.

    ""yeah, others girls are jealous of her and I get that. We walk into a room and every guy with his 'Plain Jane' girlfriend is staring at my woman. That guy wants my girl, one way or another" -- From the sound of this, he just wants a status symbol or trophy for the sake of being envied by others. This relationship is doomed if she gains weight or he becomes poor. To me, that's not love, it's a business arrangement.

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  • Nicely said... I'm one of those men who's sucsefull too , although I don't want a plastic or fake woman in my life. I have a girl from next door too , and couldn't be happier. I don't have enough ink in my pen to tell you all the great attributes that come with my decision.

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  • I think you are right about the last part... a person that can afford a mercedes isn't gonna say I'm going to buy a lamborghini. They were at a certain level and now there completely somewhere else... plus who know maybe the girl wouldn't be with him either because most girl say they want a good honest loving guy but when they grow they want status money. Which no shock these guys have by the way so its a two ended deal, the woman gets what she wants the guy gets what he actually wants.

    As a guy, yes we are attracted to looks but some guys can manage that and not look or draw a line on whom to look. Which is why I would want my wife to look good only in front of me not in public. I would want her to be as natural as she wants there. So I'll tell her make me special by making me the only ones thats sees your beauty and I'll make you special by looking only at you. Some girl don't get this... this is why I want a smart, intelligent, understanding girl. Because like all humans one day she and I will age and be wrinkled and look old as everybody else and that day our character and personality will show what true love means.

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  • Not true, I never liked high maintenance girls with tons of makeup. Natural girls rule.

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  • I've always said I prefer High mainteinance girls :)

    You've mentioned some reasons in your Take:
    - I mean she was beautiful, and confident and certainly sexy
    - settling with a high fashion princess
    - they are all the same and boring, these girls next door...
    - people assume she is some sort of bitch- but she is just so... I don't know confident and alluring?"
    - I want a girl that takes care of herself

    Even girls next door tend to be attarctive or hot in guys fanatsies. But yes apart from being attarctive she's CONFIDENT, assertive, strong, independent, ambitious, has style, looks after her appearance, and like you mentioned not boring. Its same things girls look for in guys in their own ways. So yes I do find High Maintenance girls attractive and that's who I go out with.

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    • "to wanting a hot, confident, demanding girl (perhaps one they couldn't attain before they were high up in the food chain)."

      I'm curious what do you mean by demanding girl, demanding in what way.

  • Not true for me! I love healthy and natural girls.

    Make up is made to enhance your beauty, not to cover your ugliness. Know how to use it properly!

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  • i think it all depends on the guy, if I love a girl from bottom of my heart , I prefer her not to use too much makeup , cause makeups usually contains lots of chemicals which affects skin very bad , not to wear high heels too much. From your conversation with your friends , partially it says that he is using her girl friend' appearance to show other guys his ability to attract woman , no offense to your friend , probably he has a flashy car too. there are guys out there who does like next door girl.

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  • both of ur friends just chose looks over personality. and a lot of men do. but not all tough. we all have our preferences. but at the end of the day, some of us wouod rather want a nice, down-to eartg girl, and dont mind if she isn't a 10/10 in looks.
    so , not all men are dogs who go for looks. only about 90-95% of them.
    i would like to say im better than the majority, but while i do look for good personality, my ideal girl still needs a phat ass. can't do without it. blame genes maybe, all women on my moms side have phat asses. but im shallow in that regard. unfortunately :-(

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  • Yeah because ALL GUYS ARE SAME!

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  • What does "natural women" even mean? I need graphical representations.

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  • The sad truth is that you can't generalize 3 billion men. I hate makeup of any kind. I'll choose a "plain" woman any day.

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  • I'd actually prefer the girl next door / natural look over the gal that takes an hour to get ready just to go to the grocery store.

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  • Most guys can't tell the difference between natural and natural looking makeup anyways.

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  • Superficial men will go after superficial women. Simple as that.

    Also anecdotal evidence is a logical fallacy.

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  • I don't think whether a women wears makeup or not or wears high heels or not is the determining factor on attraction or not..

    Have you maybe thought that these women's shapes are their most physical attractive feature and the fact that they aren't scared of showing their shape off is that which makes them so attractive to these men. (And maybe these men never thought someone that hot could like them? That could be it too.)

    Women's shapes are women's shapes whether you are natural or not. I guess it is just a matter of whether you know how to show off your shape. But you can still do that and be nature. It is just a matter of clothes choices.

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  • I like this... a lot! Great job.

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  • Men love fake stuff... but they don't admit it because they don't realize it. They are in denial. They will never admit to it.

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  • So true. Men fall for the illusion of a woman and often stray when they get the real thing.

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  • I guess... it's true... to an extent.
    Some do, some don't. And there are plenty of people who say one thing and then do another - hypocrites.

    Look at actions, not words.

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  • Woah! I didn't know wearing makeup and taking care of one's appearance, or dressing how one likes to, makes one fake, not down to earth or humble, and mean! Wow! Learned something new! Bettwr watch out for those fake women who chose to wear makeup! They must be so shallow and dumb!

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    • I hope you can sense my sarcasm.

    • LOL I wear a full face of makeup everyday & LOVE IT, doesn't make on shallow or dumb, but you get my point. The men said they want a natural girl, and go for the bitchy looking, full face of makeup girl

  • A well maintained girl is not desired because of makeup or shoes or whatever it is because it is visible proof of EFFORT which equals care which equals ego stroking and it makes men feel good.

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  • I've been saying forever that men dont even know what they want. They may not agree with it but what a man says and does are two different things. Thats why our mommas taught us actions speak louder than words.

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  • yeah cause two dudes represent all 3 billion.

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  • This is the realist take I've ever read. Well done.

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  • Guys say one thing but always do another. They do not know what they want.

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  • I wear hardly any makeup. Maybe sometimes i'll wear some mascara and lipstick but thats it and guys chase after me. They like naturally ATTRACTIVE women not naturally ugly women. There is no need to wear a full face of makeup everyday. It makes it seem as if you're hiding something. I think it looks very bad and the only guys that chase after girls like that are just porn addicts.

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  • Yea i realised that when I was like 12. Boys were always on about how they love no make up and love girls who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty and shit, while they're chasing anything in make up that giggles.

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  • My dad is rich and he dates natural black young chicks

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