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So if a man beats up a woman know that he'd physically stronger than her - that's not toxic?
Sorry but the way you think is like your from the 1940s.
A man who beats a woman is not a man.
I doubt men from 1940s had time to beat their wives considering they were busy fighting a war
This is a weird take. No one thinks a man is strong for beating up a woman explicitly "because he's stronger than her." It's genuinely always awkward when a man is even using a harsh tone with a woman, let alone attacking her.
You're looking to a nearly non-existent circumstance and asserting it's normal, encouraged and accepted.
the term toxic masculinity was created by MRAs to be used as a term to describe toxic behavior that men justify by relating it to their gender. of course feminists had to take this term and blow it out of proportion by claiming that anything that revolves around masculinity is automatically toxic masculinity.
but oh well I really dont give a fuck what they think. because as usual it is never "toxic" when they see it as something that serves a convenience to them
I totally agree with you everybody has different prefrences but one shouldn't be toxic about it.
Nice Mytake
#wowwgirl rocks 🙂🙂
Thank you sir
Toxic masculinity is femininity. When men act feminine it becomes toxic.
There's my friend
And why and how exactly? Men who put on makeup and dresses aren't bothering anyone. The other side however is always constantly ridiculing them.
You wanna get ripped and act tough then go ahead. But i dont get how someone liking girly things affects you.
@bamesjond0069 🙂 someone is not on the same page as us
@weeee it's pussifacation will spread to all men and slowly kill your t levels and dissolve your backbone
We aren't fans and never will be I can speak for him on that.
Toxic masculinity is masculinity expressed in a toxic manner.
This isn't a difficult concept. Saying that toxic masculinity doesn't exist is the equivalent and of saying that all masculinity is positive.
You'd be an idiot for saying that.
And no I didn't read any of this. 👌👌
I somewhat agree. Toxic Maculity does exist, but it isn't the description of the man, it's the societal values that are pressured onto anyone born with a peins to be the described man.
There's no problem with being a hyper-masc manly man. There's a problem with pressuring people who aren't that, to be that more like that.
I'm pretty sure it exist for feminine stereotypes on the Womens' side as well, so it's not a male-exclusive issue either.
I don't agree that "men get shamed for being men". What I see more often are men acting stupid, then getting shamed for it, and trying to excuse it by saying " bullshit, I'm a man and that's what men do ! "
Great read. Toxicity is subjective (unless dealing with harsh chemicals).
Proud to be considered Toxic! 🏴☠️
Good🙂
Some dudes are definitely dicks, but I would consider myself a nice guy. Their dicks, I am not. I don't know, I have been buried in work for the last couple years I haven't com up for air. But I finally made it to asst. manager just recently so I am super stoked.
Smh. Toxic masculinity is very real. From the comments you post, you aren't in a position to discuss toxicity if you're a toxic, hypocritical person yourself.
Toxic masculinity is about how the patriarchy expects men to not be human, aka not crying, men dont feel emotions except anger, they can’t be insecure, men who shame other men for being feminine are toxic, men who promote dont teach their sons that crying, feeling, mental health is okay and normal are toxic. Its not about bashing men its about helping men and taking the patriarchy down.
Here's a good perspective and history of Men's rights.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/APoQuX5M2P4This isn't it. Toxic masculinity exists in the sense that a lot of guys are overly obsessed with being perceived as "alpha", and if they have a high degree of "masculinity", some of those individuals feel a sense of entitlement to women's attention and feel superior to other men who are not "alpha". So in other words you're mixing up the reality of "asshole macho man who makes rape jokes = toxic masculinity" with a kind of politicized strawman of "toxic masculinity = masculinity is bad"
in my opinion, toxic masculinity does exist, but it has nothing to do with how masculine a man is or isn't, but rather how dudes are treated and trained in society. (Ex, the male suicide rate. Men's depression/mental health is not taken seriously by both women and other men, so they just bottle it in.)
Wow, i wonder how many people ITT equate the term "toxic masculinity" to saying that everything masculine is toxic. It's not. I know it seems like that when listening to these crazies that abuse the term and overuse it to the point of it losing meaning. There's plenty of masculine traits and habits that are NOT toxic.
“Toxic masculinity is not real” refers to men who can’t control their aggression, who’re racist, bigoted and who likely spend a lot of time in prison. So categorically yes, toxic masculinity exists.
it does exist. read up on history more to get it
I got it just a excuse for pussies
@MudRucker yup i do in fact. read up on history. and do it carefully. its all right there
Sure because I'm not wasting anymore time reading about pussy men and their excuse for being pussies it's horrible.
such harsh language there wowgirl. by the way calling them 'pussies' is also toxic masculinity. playing on their insecurities like that
Yes my balls are bigger then your normal man sadly. Not harsh wording I call a spade, a spade or a puss a puss.
Back to the having balls
ok what makes a man a "pussy" can you define this for me?
You would know about that more than me. Im on the Toxic side remember
Your words sir
no "pussy" was your word. you have to define it for us. unless you can't then uhhh how is that not toxic? sounds pretty bad to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOUGNGWmN0k the women here define Toxic Masculinity perfectly
If you behave in a manner that is commonly considered as specific to women. Whinnying, being emotional, crying in public, not knowing how to fix cars or things around the home, fears conflict, afraid of a lot including fighting and dirt, I could go on or...
A Weak and spineless boy, worships women and feels unworthy for them, cry's poor me all the time, wants to treat women like men. The typical femdominated slave, who has no sense of his own dignity or pride. His only victory as a man was a participation trophy for track day in 3rd grade.
I'm not taking anyone in your video seriously just by the cover alone sir
A bitter woman and soft handed Asian will not teach me anything about masculinity 😂
“ soft handed Asian”
Ah I forgot you’re a racist too. Smh.
Ok ill address your shitty definition for “pussy” later. Got work to do
Soft handed man means a man who doesn't work with his hands. Was that guy Asian? Huh? He looked like he was
Try again I defined pussy for you and you come back with I'm racist 😂
If I say I'm white is that racist? Is everyone clear now? 👍
Yup thats racist
Nothing can stop this mow, you are clearly judging him based on appearance. Thats racist by definition
Hopeless
You? Correct
I have my own house. Aim high dear. I can teach you how to fix things too no worries
Neither of which makes me less of a man. So you won't date me? Oh well. I never wanted to anyways lol.
Im shocked that i mostly agree with you. Toxic masculinity does exist but shaming men for masculine traits is not toxic masculinity, it's just assholes wanting to rid men of traits that make us men
Why shocked?
Because usually i don't agree with your beliefs or views. But every once in a blue moon, people have opinions i agree with
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It is real. Anything in excess is toxic whether it be male or female.
There's no point in discussing the terms used for movements, they don't mean anything in life.
"The dose makes the poison..."
Toxic Masculinity is when a girl is trying to be more like a man. Wearing tattoos and trying to lower her voice. It's gross and, in reality, many girls that do this just come off like a spoiled ten year old boy.