
Guys, are you attracted to more dependent or independent women?


According to most men's opinion, they want dependent women but not deal with the consequences of a dependent partner, or the responsibilities that comes with a dependent partner, lol. They just want a woman dependent enough to stroke their ego. 😌
Lemme tell you one thing honey, whether or not men like it, it doesn't matter. Being independent is a basic necessity for every grown-up individual. You can't entirely depend on your spouse for something.
Shit happens in life and, God forbid, if you're not independent and not capable of sustaining your family on your own, how will you keep yourself and your kids if your husband either dies or becomes unable to be the breadwinner of the family?
@Ellie-V same here. It breaks my heart when women, after losing their husbands become drastically miserable. They wouldn't suffer so much only if they had higher education and skills needed for a decent job. Being a housewife is completely fine and a woman can choose to not work if they feel like work and household together is too stressful. But at least be capable of earning in case you're ever in need. You never know what comes ahead in life.
I'm strongly conscious about my dignity, so being dependent is really not worth losing my identity and respect in future.
Most men said independent lol
@TheUglyMan I'm not talking about G@G alone honey. If I did then I would mention it. A lot of men in developed countries or cities do want independent women because of the change in lifestyle and increasing living cost, but otherwise mankind still has a long way to go. đ¸
@CubsterShura yeah, mankind does have a long way to go!
I'll answer your question for you though, when something like that happens to a woman who was dependant on her husband, most would just get a divorce, take half his stuff and get a new guy because they never really cared. Most dependant women just play on guys desires to be wanted and loved so that she gets what she wants. Most "dependant" women cheat on their man, blame him, and stroke their own ego by still telling themselves they're a great girlfriend, even right after they cheated. This happened to a friend of mine, the woman started bragging to him how she was so great to her boyfriend... right after they fucked.
@devilman666 lol nope most dependent women get beaten up by their husbands. Get out of your bubble.
@devilman666 also what happened with your friend doesn't represent what happens in the entire world. I'll give you one little quote.
'Only because it's not happening HERE, doesn't mean that it's not happening NOW.'
@CubsterShura I'm in a bubble? Hahahahahahaha. Fuck you, no. Most dependant women dont get beaten up by their husbands, that's a very obvious lie.
Oh, so you can generalize but I can't? Typical feminist hypocrisy.
@devilman666 I knew it. That's all how far your vocabulary stretches. Know no other than the F word. Lol grab a dictionary, bye đ
@CubsterShura I knew it. You can't back up anything you say. You just make empty claims and generalizations about men while hypocritically not liking when men do the same about women. Learn to listen to people and not just make claims about an entire gender?
@devilman666 look at the up votes by women boo, they wouldn't be there if you men listened to women to at least once. But you don't, keep hating till u die, good fricking bye đ
@CubsterShura actually thats because women don't listen to men, they just assume shitty things about them, and throw around empty opinions like deciding that as a woman with no evidence other than your personal conversations, you know that most men want a dependant woman but not the responsiblity, which is wrong in many way, as has been pointed out, most guys said the opposite on this app, meaning you ignore them all and listen to your own preconcieved thoughts and opinions and yet I am the hater?
But this app doesn't matter because you know best, what men say? Who cares, you already know better what men want than any man does. You make generalizations and empty claims, even claiming that most men with wives who are dependant on them are abusive. You have no way to back this up and you never will because it's false. You are spreading lies and hatred about men without any evidence or support for your reasoning and women eat it up, because they always do. Women mever listen to men unless the men are saying the hateful things the women expect them to say. Otherwise the women just try to shut them up and ignore their opinions. You are a great example of this, you ignore all other facts and will continue holding your empty hatred of me and other men because of your judgmental, hateful nature. And far too many women are like you. You disgust me.
Like, from what you say, you seem to be an expert in male psychology, throwing around what they think and feel. "A lot of men in developed countries or cities do want an independant woman because of the change in lifestyle and the increased living cost, but otherwise mankind has a long way to go." You know not only what they want but why they want it? How did you figure this out? You assumed and generalized. When I did the same about women, you got angry and labelled me a hater. I'll accept that I am hateful to the opposite sex if you do, since I stated nothing worse than what you did.
And if you need more proof, the male votes are just as representative as the female ones, you can't ignore that all females like what you said and all men seem to dislike it.
As a woman, you're trying to tell a man how men think, and why. You can't even give evidence to support that I don't listen to women, but I can give reasons showing you don't listen to men, because my claim isn't empty.
@devilman666 you really wrote all that? TSDR. Too stupid, didn't read. I mentioned earlier that I am not talking about G@G alone. And you don't have to be psychology expert to know such common facts. It's not my fault if you missed out on reading that. Once again, I am not talking about G@G alone. I did see that many guys here are saying yes.
And by the way, guys always don't say what they mean. I have seen plenty of guys who SAY that they are okay with their girl doing this and that but when they get into a relationship, lol nope issa different person.
So please, get out of your bubble. G@G does not represent the people outside.
And again you back up nothing you say. Because you can't. Because you make it up.
So where are you getting the information if not from G@G? List of your sources? I'd really love to see the statistics on this instead of being told it exists.
The psychology of men is just common facts? So you can go indepth on these facts?
You're not talking about men on G@G? now you want to bring up what many guys here said? So when it's convenient for you the data is relevant and when it's not convenient it suddenly "does not represent the people outside."?
Another empty accusation to label men as liars. Ooh, personal experiences? Here, I'll give you a familiar little quote. "Only because it's not happening HERE, doesn't mean that it's not happening NOW"
Your experiences don't represent the people outside.
Please get outside your bubble and listen to men for a change instead of assuming and generalizing.
@devilman666 I did and what I learned is that men often don't mean what they say.
@CubsterShura yes, both genders can be dishonest and say things they don't mean, or lie about thair desires. Convenient though how your answer to men's personal experiences you say it doesn't apply to the entire world. The opinions of men on G@G disagree with you? "They don't reflect the entire world.
Some men on G@G agree with me (even though you already discounted the opinions of G@G).
This is basic facts.
(You allude to your experiences I guess? You don't mention data so if you're not getting it from G@G then I assume its personal experience. Just as you can discount my experience and the opinions of G@G, your experience doesn't apply to the entire world.)
They're probably being dishonest."
I'm just about at my limit with arguing with you, you don't support any claim you make so they are all empty words, you make dishonest arguments, and then you make hypocritical arguments using information you would call out for not applying to the whole world, if it wasn't your own arguments, experiences, and information.
@devilman666 I am not even interested in continuing this convo. You are another blind hater. Good bye.
Isn't the whole of G@G based on anecdote lol
Blind hater? Sure, ignore everything I say and keep labelling me without providing any reasons or evidence for anything you say. Beautiful. You aren't proving my point or anything.
Whatever, I am done with this too. Your hypocritical attitude and refusal to listen blind you so any conversation is impossible. You can't even recognize how blind you are because you immediately label anyone who disagree as blind and sexist and a hater. You blindfold yourself to how blindfolded you already are. How ironic.
Honey I knew from the beginning that reading your argument is pointless. Look at your language. More than enough for me to not take your words seriously.
Oh look. You just justified everything I've said about you by refusing to take me seriously. You're the one who's blinded by hate, and it's because you think you're justified in not needing to listen because you don't like what's being said. We should all work to listen to one another instead of assuming and throwing generalizations.
You are the one who kept making assumptions about me and I don't even want to spend my energy on you guys.
I'm making assumptions? You started this off with a generalization with men before I even commented, you had also attempted to discredit mens opinions because you seem to think your opinion on what men think outweighs the opinions of multiple men who on the same topic (that's not an assumption, you told someone else who brought up what men were saying that you weren't talking about G@G and that your peesinal experience led you to know what a lot of men in developed countries and cities around the world want). Your first response to me was then "most men who have a dependant wife are abusive." Which you still haven't given any evidence to support.
You have no room to be upset about assumptions other people make.
"But all the women agree with you so you're probably right" has seemed to be your best argument or reasoning for why you're right so far. Other than that it's been simply ignoring what people said and making claims. Ignoring them because it's a specific situation and doesn't apply to all women, because G@G doesn't apply to all situations, and because men can be dishonest/lie. So no one's opinion matters but your own.
And ignoring how all the men disagree with you because they're probably just lying or for some other reason don't apply to enough of the population to count in your opinion of what men want. I don't know why I bother so hard when you seem so disingenuous. You already assume I'm lying or ignorant or stupid naturally so anything I say is pointless. I'm done, I'm leaving a dislike and I'm not commenting again. I'm not wasting more energy on this if you refuse to spend energy listening on listening to opposing opinions.
what about codependency? Relationships would be so much better if both persons were able to do what they do best without any restrictions
Both, but I lean towards independent. It's nice to feel needed, and have someone who relies on you, but a strong independent woman has a very attractive strength.
Independent and dominant in the outside world. Dependent and submissive in the bedroom.
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Independent usually, though I think I love the idea of a dependant girl more. I tend to think that the woman being more dependant on me for happiness or needs makes it more likely for her to use me and cheat. If I am too busy for her for a short while, I'd have to deal with the worry that she's depending on someone else. On top of that, if she was dependant on me for financial or other security, I'd worry she only wanted me because she needed someone she didn't think would walk out on her, not because she loved me. There are traits I like about it, and the idea of having a dependant woman works really well for me, it's just ended poorly for me a few times and now I have a bad perception of people who want to depend on me.
Tbh though, I think either would be fine as long as I could depend on her a little. What matters more for me is the degree to which she proves her feelings, integrity, and honesty to me, because if I don't think I matter to her then I will assume she is using me for whatever reason.
In a relationship both should depend on each other in some ways.
You're probably right, I've just personally grown to dislike depending on people in general. I don't mind people depending on me most of the time, but when it only goes one way I end up feeling like they're just using me for favors and whatnot.
The concept of an independant woman is a failed one.
Think about it for a second. What do you want from a relationship?
Someone you can trust. A true friend, ally and lover, correct?
In other words... someone you can DEPEND on!
Entering a relationship with a deliberately independant person is like trying to put a bike lock on a stream of water. They will bail on you at some point.
Financial independance is a good thing. The problem with it is that many women get bloodshot eyes when their salary goes up.
"If I earn X much, surely I deserve a man who makes at least 2X". This phenomenom is generally referred to as hypergamy - being attracted to status.
In other words, not only is an independant woman unreliable, but there is a high chance she is extremely high maintenance.
You can label me a misogynist all you like, and say that I just want a slave - which is ACTUALLY true to some extent, because I am into BDSM. But the truth is that my experience with women tells me that loyal, slightly homely women who value traditional societal roles are some of the sweetest and most lovable creatures ever. Meanwhile your average "independant woman" often comes across as a narcissist and an overall unbearable person.
Are these women independent, slutty? A bit of both?
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Depends on the woman. A lot of the independent women i have know have been toxic feminists. Nothing you do is right. Ill give a common example I give out. If i open the door I'm robbing them of their independance and thinking them too weak to get their own door but if I dont open it I'm an inconsiderate jerk who mistreats women. If she's financially independant great. If she has her own friends great. If she needs to depend on me im ok with that. I am a guy and its in my DNA to be the type of guy who can provide and be depended on.
That sure is a loaded question. First of all, what does âindependent womanâ mean? Does that mean, whichever guy she happens to be spooning with, watching a movie, is as important to her as a tissue when she has to blow her nose? Or does it mean something else? It means different things to different people, plus whether you happen to be a man or woman
Sure, but I was raised with 3 sisters, my mother and aunts and... basically, no women can be raised in my family and survive, without being independent and strong, or else they will be the black sheep of the family. It is difficult for me to empathize, for this reason
The problem with examining financial and emotional Co-dependency is... Thats a goal for a couple. Isnât it? My parents have been married for over 40 years and they are both financially and emotionally interdependent. So... what really makes a woman independent, in my view is this:
That she has found purpose in her life, a goal or direction to devote herself to something, anything, greater than herself and takes each day, as another day, in that journey.
You see how (1) it has nothing to do with a man and (2) it has nothing to do with money etc
Let me put it this way: I would rather with a woman who can handle business in the unfortunate scenario that I am incapacitated, or out of commission. I would prefer an independent woman because she would be more dependable than a dependent woman.
A healthy relationship is essentially a partnership. There's nothing wrong for me to want to be with a woman who can hold down the fort and protect the younglings if I'm dead or in a coma.
That is how my aunt is. She became a widow when her boys were 5 (twins) and 3 years old. Now, these cousins of mine are adults: the twins are successful engineers, and the youngest recently graduated from medical school, and is now a doctor like his parents. Being a single mother (or parent, for that matter), is never ideal, but she had the personality, disposition, and grit to raise her sons into adulthood successfully.
Having had both types, my experience is that dependent women crave safety and affection more, making you feel needed. Independent women tend to be more intelligent and mentally fulfilling, but don't really need you.
Ideally you'd have a mix. Someone who can get stuff done on her own, who is smart and who has wholly devoted herself to you, because you fill certain needs for her. Of course as a two way street.
It depends, how independent and how dependent? There's a sweet spot where a girl is dependent enough to make the man feel needed and therefore interested in her as much as she him, but also where she's independent enough to not have to come to him with everything. For example, I'd love to teach my girlfriend about cars and such, but I don't want to be running around the house trying to kill a spider as she stands on a stool and shrieks. (Of course this isn't precise or specific it's just an exaggerated example to fully illustrate my point)
Dependent is easy to control as you know that this person canât do anything without your permission or conversation.
Independent women are not easy to keep and makes guys scared bcs they can dump their ass any moment. But secure is love and not money or salary.
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Scared? Would you be with someone knowing that the relationship won't last lol.
@TheUglyMan yeah many guys like the unsure feeling , not to have other for granted and this is how respect works for them
Dont know if it is as much about respect as it is their own insecurities making them feel more secure when they are more in control because of the dependency. Whatever it is i dont like it, after all at least in theory you're supposed to be able to trust this person with your kids one day yes? How can you do that if theyre dependent on you? Dont get me wrong a little dependency is good and not to mention more or less required for an intimate relationship but i dont like the "daddy thingy" if you get my meaning
I find that it's a combo of the two. I want my girl to be confident in herself and be able to bring out confidence in me (shut up and dance) and dependent on me to the extent that it makes me feel that I am special to her. That she will wait and desire to spend time with me.
Guys generally want their dick sucked with a side of âI canât live without you Daddyâ. Canât imagine an independent woman wanting to that everyday, willingly. At the end of the day, itâs all about men wanting their ego stroked 💦
But most guys said they want an independent women. It just seems like this opinion is trying to shame men?
I could have used better choice of words. Not EVERY guy wants that.
Also this is just one question on gag, the rest of the world exists
I want @your-ego stroked
@your_ego
I'm screaming at this
@anonymous you're making a false equivalence here. Being dependant or independant isn't the same as being unable to live without someone, loving the person, or caring deeply about them. Many men want those three things, and the manipulative "dependant" (I prefer the term abusive) women are more than happy to play upon those desires to get what she wants. The woman can, and most likely is ready to, leave at any time, if they're married she doesn't have to worry about finances cause leaving solves that issue, plus she can just manipulate another man.
@your_ego that's lame, followers are cool
@your_ego Aw lame, whatever then.
Both. Preferably independent. If you mean it emotionally than no. Fuck those psychopath women. I like me the woman to be emotionally dependant or she becomes untrustworthy. If you mean it financially or ego wise than yes. Those Independent women are better for a man (rare and precious) because they can be as and even more efficient than the man in creating great legacy.
What's emotionally independent?
I think it depends on personality balances. I have been attracted to both and been turned off by both. If a girl is to passive it would make me feel like they would do everything I want without considering her own wants. And Visa versa if she's to aggressive makes me feel she would be vulnerable with me.
Yes but the best way I look at is everyone isn't just one of those were all both just to different degrees. I'm attracted to strong personalities. I've been attracted to a woman who for the most part people only know her as dependent but she is quite a independent person.
So I'm reading some of these guy opinions and they are so funny to me. Like the always talk about how women day dream a crazy idea of a man but holy crap they have come up with some strange ideas about a woman.
Have you read female comments? There are women who claim to know mens desires and will argue about it with men. They don't seem to be a majority, but here:
"Guys generally want their dick sucked with a side of âI canât live without you Daddyâ. Canât imagine an independent woman wanting to that everyday, willingly. At the end of the day, itâs all about men wanting their ego stroked đŚ"
"Dependent is easy to control as you know that this person canât do anything without your permission or conversation.
Independent women are not easy to keep and makes guys scared bcs they can dump their ass any moment. But secure is love and not money or salary.
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"According to most men's opinion, they want dependent women but not deal with the consequences of a dependent partner, or the responsibilities that comes with a dependent partner, lol. They just want a woman dependent enough to stroke their ego. đ
Lemme tell you one thing honey, whether or not men like it, it doesn't matter. Being independent is a basic necessity for every grown-up individual. You can't entirely depend on your spouse for something.
Shit happens in life and, God forbid, if you're not independent and not capable of sustaining your family on your own, how will you keep yourself and your kids if your husband either dies or becomes unable to be the breadwinner of the family?"
"@TheUglyMan I'm not talking about G@G alone honey. If I did then I would mention it. A lot of men in developed countries or cities do want independent women because of the change in lifestyle and increasing living cost, but otherwise mankind still has a long way to go. đ¸"
@devilman666 those came after I wrote my opinion but the point of my opinion is to point out that both males and females have crazy ideas of their perfect person.
I understand. I was just making a case showing they weren't completely wrong.
Definitely independent. I don't think I would be attracted to a woman who would have to be by me all the time and have to check if she has my permission to do something. lol. I like a woman who would be there for me when I need her, but speak her own mind. She would not be afraid to say what is on her mind and do what she likes.
I'd like to say it doesn't matter but it does. Id like independent women. It shows that they can take care of themselves, and that even of they didn't need me, they wanted me anyways and chose me over many other things. It's the being wanted most guys want.
I don't care much
but , in these hard times, independent woman means trouble , she would have depression. and many things, most likely she won't share anything with me
And that is not cool , if i am to date , i would share everything with her. y heart would be open
I was raised by an independent mom, and backed up by a very independent thinking grandmother, so I can only accept an independent woman. I dont mean the type where she doesn't want to share, because I will definitely share what I have, but it has to be fair. She needs to be capable of doing what she can just like me.
I'm attracted to girls that don't focus on being independent or dependent. When I'm dating a girl I like feeling needed or wanted because it offers opportunities to build memories and for us to work together with something.
I like relationships where were both equals. I don't like the idea of depending on others because they may be unreliable at times and I don't like being dependent on because it gives me anxiety. I like the idea of dating a girl who compliments my life just as much as I compliment hers.
I want to be independent enough that I can easily walk away if things go bad and still be ok. I dont mind relying on him for emotional support sometimes, but never financially.
Keep this attitude and you will go far!
I want a dependend woman. Of course, it's a responsibillity, but I just feel useless with independend girls. They're just there, you have sex with them and that's it. I want to feel needed, I need to take care of someone.
Both to a certain extent. Dependant to the point that she wants your opinion on things and want to know what you think and asks you questions on how you stand on things. And independent to the extent that she also works a job and she knows how to to do things without you.
I think men like a combination of both. Like "I don't need you but I appreciate that your here".
Simple

Good question. Well, there's something about her being dependant on me that I really like, for some reason but I also wouldn't mind an independent woman.
So really, my opinion is being equally attracted to both.
A fine balance of both. Strong independence can be very off putting these days as it takes away from a guys natural role as a provider. But equally not a clingy needy woman as that trait would be taught by her to shared children and no man wants his offspring to be weak. A mutual compromise of power in a relationship is the healthiest option.
Completely agree. I look for a woman who is independent in the sense that she doesn't rely on my existence to live. -- not the kind of "I want an open marriage" or "I'm going to travel the world around me because I'm a strong independent woman." Those women objectively speaking make bad partners
Independent. That doesn't mean she should be arrogant about being independent. Just means I can rest easy knowing that if one of us isn't doing well every now and then, the other can lift us back up. A dependent woman is cool, but I'd stress out if my check is shorter one week. Lol.
Independent for the most. Like she should have things she enjoys doing without me and vice versa.
but id like her to be clingy in a relationship. Clingyness makes me feel wanted. Aloofness makes me feel unwanted
A blend of both for me. Too much dependence show incompetence. Too much independence means lack of trust. Dependent enough to trust me to handle important things and take care of her but independent enough to take care of herself for simple everyday things. I wanna feel like a partner not a father or just a friend.
Independent in the streets, dependent in the sheets ;)
LMAO Agreed
I guess independent, but not arrogant. Ideally, she would suck at things I'm great at, and she'd be great at things I suck at. That way, we can be an equal partnership with respect for each other
Dependent, because I need them as much as I like them to need me. Independant women won't even look at me, I'm too stupid and they can find better without problem.
Personally I like a good mix between the 2, for instance let's say you have to go on a trip for work she can handle herself and be okay, then when you come home she can depend on you to be there and say you care for her and will always be there for her.
Half way, I want a SO that depends on me and needs me otherwise I feel useless, but at the same time I don't want to have to do EVERYTHING for them so they must be somewhat independent :)
"independent" is usually code for "fuck you and give me my Whopper."
Attracted to?
No, I can never get attracted to any woman. However yes I can find a woman attractive ( from a distance), so yes I do find independent women attractive.
I'm attracted to a girl who is independent enough to fight back in life, but not afraid to rely/depend on someone else from time to time when they need the extra help.
If you aren't dependent on your partner, there is no reason to be in a relationship.
Funny, from my experience being dependent on your partner results in a toxic relationship.
@Hurlyburly Not if you're both equally dependent on eachother, have agreed on all boundaries, and neither take advantage of the other's dependency.
Relationships don't fail because of co-dependency, they fail because of basic incompatibility.
Independent. Dependent ones are not always but more often crazy, overattached, jealous, have less ambitions, etc.
You're insane, overattached and jealous?
overly attached, as in does insane things to prove their love, chooses their SO over say their family, or prior commitments, or anything like that
So you're dependent?
Ah that makes sense
Independent. Dependent are just... needy. But independent doesn't imply that she doesn't want or appreciate being taken care of.
In the middle, I want her to feel safe in my arms, and trust me, but at the same time i dont want someone who needs to cling to me or those type of peple who say "We complete eachother"
Agree
Independent, because I know she really wants to be with me/enjoys being around me rather than just what I can do for her.
I'm attracted to women how know how to take care of themselves and aren't helpless/useless, but I'm not attracted to "independent women" who are too proud to ask for her help and don't want a man to help them with anything.
Both. Just has to be the right amount of both. As long as you're not a feminist who gets mad when he opens doors and stuff for you
I wouldnât get mad since itâs a gesture of courtesy to both males and females. Iâve opened doors for guys before too, so I donât see it as a gender thing but rather a common courtesy.
More what I mean is dependency is good, you shouldn't need a man to do everything for you, but you also need to let him do things for you because as a man he feels the need to open your car door and pay for dinner, things you are able to do, but he wants to. Makes him feel more like a man. Just don't be that lady who says "I can do it myself" when he offers help. But don't ask him to do everything for you. Find a happy medium.
I feel indifferent because she has to have both characteristics but I like a more independent woman with high tendency to need me.
If guys like dependent woman they are probably abusive.
not true... I like someone who can take control and will make me feel like he has everything under control...
I like a girl who's independent, but still craves my attention.
I want to with someone who makes a good salary so I don't have to work, cooks, cleans, give me bjs whenever I want, and gives me a foot massage. I also want 10 million dollars and a Ferarri. My SO wants the same. Neither of us have it yet.
That would be awesome. Thanks!
Independent. I want her to be able to exist without me.
Personally, a mix of both. Just right you know? So that way it's better for both of us. But of course, if the man is a gentleman, he'll be wanting to help you as much as he can and make you feel amazing
Why focus on all people when you can focus on one person?
Independant, every time. Better a woman who's with me out of choice, than out of need.
Independent and I will not settle for anything but.
I want an independent woman who can be strong when I am not. Needless to say I would return the gesture.
She should be my equal and not a child.
The balance? Where is the balance?
I need someone to understand you can't have a functional social structure with one predominating the other!
Both, a woman is strong enough to look after herself yet need to support of her partner
Personally, I like a woman that is independent but will still ask me for help with tasks that would be difficult for her.
What do you want for an answer?
Sugar-coated shit or real facts and I can argue about it but if you ask this question, so that woman can support it and you can feel good about it for something you did then I will not waste my time.
I like very independent women. So independent that I feel like I don't have to look after them. Like her life is her responsibility and my life is mine.
like strangers using a unisex toilet?
@COCOCHANEL I've never tried a unisex toilet...
thrills
Dependant is a deal breaker for me , I like independent mature women to me dependant = immature
I prefer independent girls.
My girlfriend even has a job.
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