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+1 yI don't mind her being dependent on me or looking up at me for anything tbh. However when it comes to finances, that's a deal-breaker. I don't want to date someone who doesn't earn, or isn't trying to. Its okay if their still finishing their education off, or trying to find a job but not if they deliberately don't want to earn and rely on me for that for the rest of their lives. It is okay if they later in life become physically unable to earn due to some reason and then rely on me for money, or if they end up losing their job or are in some financial crisis etc. They can count on me then, and I'll always be there for them. But I just can't stand women who are fully capable but choose not to earn because they're lazy or expect to live off from their man's wallet. That tells me that they're lazy, dumb, and incompetent.
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2.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. We don't really want either extreme, but rather something in between. What we really want is a SUPPORTIVE and APPRECIATIVE woman - and most men will work hard to show such women appreciation in return and to make her life better.
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3.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. I LOVE independent career women 😍 To me they are the most beautiful women.




Dependent women can go to the loaded guys, who love squandering their own money on women.
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+1 yIndependent - not dependent; not depending or contingent upon something else for existence, operation, etc.
A true independent person lives 100% off the land. For example they hunt, trap, fish, grow, gather for food. They build their own shelter.
Being too much of what society considers what being independent is not good because it could make the other person feel not wanted or useful.
A dependent person would rely on me to do way too much stuff.
What most would want is a independent dependent person. One who does things on their own but also asks for help at time. Also someone who does not let the other person do things just to feel useful even though they do not want the help.
With my girlfriend and I we both do the cooking, cleaning, laundry etc. The reason is we both eat the food, dirty up the house, want clean clothes etc. We both work so we do not solely rely on the other person monetarily.10 Reply I like women in the middle don't like to dependent and to much independent. My reasons are this when you date to much dependable girl it means you always have to be like her daddy, take care of her, buy here everything she will never pay for nothing and in your family she probably won't move a muscle to make things done.
Also if you date very independent woman she probably won';t care much about you , she's probably feminists, has some hate for men or think she is better or supperior.
Best is when she is in the middle ground.00 Reply
+1 yObviously, neither of them would be good if they go to the extreme. Too dependent and I'd get annoyed because I need some time to myself as well as being worried since I'd like her to be able to keep going if anything were to happen to me. Too independent and we wouldn't be in a relationship, we'd just be friends who meet and fuck every now and then.
At the risk of sounding like the boss of captain obvious while Captain Obvious is busy looking at the map to get the ship onto the right track, a middle ground is the way to go.00 ReplyDamn it I accidentally picked dependent whereas I meant to pick independent.
My thoughts on this matter are simple. I want a grown arse adult woman, not a child who expects men to constantly chase them, pay for their shit and put out with their entitlement nonsense.31 Reply- 2.8K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yFamily and relationship oriented.
One who values family, relationships higher than career.
I never went for women who worked 60 hours a week... crazy schedules in which I rarely saw them... they traveled for their job all the time and I was just a tag along in her life... right after her career.
I went for girls who wanted romance and who wanted to get married and although they like their job... their family was their main priority in life.20 Reply 2.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. Depends on the type of guy you want. If you want a guy who has value (isn't mediocre) then he has higher expectations. Basically it boils down to you being a good team player. You can be dependent and be a team player because he's getting things he wants too. And I don't mean sex.
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+1 yI haven't really meet a truly independent women. I always try to find them but after enough time with them I always end up realizing they just want to be lead. Which is fine and there's nothing wrong with that. But if you try to treat a girl like that too independently they'll sort of hold it against you.
I'm sure there's independent woman out there, I just think it's very very rare and a lot of women think they are but they're not.00 Reply - 1K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yIndependent to the degree where he happiness and her identity as a person does not depend on me to bring her purpose or joy in her life. That is an unfair responsibility on both genders if the other is the dependent on them to that level.
My girlfriend loves me and spends time with me, but she still has her friends, her hobbies, her family to keep her busy and grounded and she doesn't solely rely on me. That is the way it should be.00 Reply - 1.2K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yI voted dependent because independent is too closely defined as feminist these days.
I agree with some of the other comments. I don't want either extreme. Independent is good to a point. But I like when she can be vulnerable too because it shows she trusts me.
Thumbs up for a good question. 👍🏽20 Reply uuuh kind of neither fully tbh. I dont want her to be a gold digger but i prefer one of us be home for the kids so the idiotic government doesn't brainwash them. Our society is turning to crap with all this political garbage. I just want my kids to be kids and be left alone from the demonic hell spawn trying to corrupt them in the public education system.
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+1 yI want a truly independent woman.. As in the woman that does not need to advertise she's independent, those kind are just insufferable idiots. My wife is the truly independent type.. She stands on her own when needed, uses me for support when needed, and supports me when needed... best of all she is not an idiot feminist.
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+1 yAn independent woman would be smart enough NOT to be a frantic feminist. And the Bible explains the virtuous wife as strong, intelligent, able to seek out the best deals, and to handle those that seek to harm her family. While she submits to her husband as her husband submits to God, she sounds very independent!
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+1 yLol that's not the right representation of dependent people.
Dependent people are like I want this and that they demand not beg and they do work in different ways people are dependent on them as well.
I would choose based on the financial status that what they want and should work if required and by choice.
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+1 yIām surprised at the results. I chose independent. You better one another. Both positive. Challenge each other. Most independent women Iāve dated workout. Sex is much better. Itās athletic. I feel I can get more genuine feelings from a woman thatās independent. Someone that will tell me the truth, not just what I want to hear.
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+1 yHonestly this is a trick question for me.
A woman i like is smart and forward thinking, meaning that in todays world she is gonna be "independent".
At the same time, i dont like independence because it makes me almost outdated and way too disposable for my liking00 Reply- 837 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yAn independent woman is always strong and knows what she wants in a guy.
So it saves us guys, from spoiling our Time around a wrong woman who is only after money n her other own needs.
If she works and I work we both have our own hustles then I guess that relationship will be be built strong by the two parties.20 Reply In my current financial position, I'm unable to financially support two people, so *IF* I'm going to date someone, they would need to be independent. However when I'm financially stable again, I have no problem with someone depending on me. But I selected "Independent" because that's the only thing I can afford currently.
00 ReplyDepends on the situation.
I love dependent women. I like how they depend on me just as long as she can make adult decisions. Can at least work on things.
Dont wabt a woman so independent that she won't take advice. won't ask for help when she needs it. Or keeps quiet to where there is no communication.00 Reply
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yDepends in what way. A woman that is financially independent and can take care of herself that way is very attractive (ie not looking for a man to take care of her). But if we're talking about emotional dependency, you don't want it to the extreme in either direction.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNeither. How about just a normal woman?
That said, there is nothing worse than a woman who feels the need to proclaim herself an "independent woman", as if there is something special about her because she isn't a child. It's like saying "look at me everyone, I have my big girl pants on and I can actually act like an adult". How would it sound if men felt the need to always tell people they are "independent men"?00 Reply- 509 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yDepends on what she is independent in. I believe a mix of the two is best as both extremes can lead to certain issues. So a silverlining between the two is what I see as the most ideal situation.
00 Reply There's no such a thing as independent woman or men. We live in a society relying on eachother and probably none of us would really survive alone.
30 Reply3.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. Most to least desirable⢠independent woman who acts like she wants me⢠dependent woman who acts like she needs me⢠independent woman who acts like she doesn't want or need me⢠dependent woman who acts like she doesn't want or need me
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+1 yIndependent women don't need a man, until she wants kids, she will most likely leave you after she's done using you to get kids. And independent women already has a mindset of not to depend on a man so will put herself and career above you.
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No women does that. Independant women still need us. Just not for money.
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@ThisIsMyOpinion lmao, sure. live in lala land.
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I am serious. Do you really think women only want money and kids?
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@ThisIsMyOpinion women want a provider, average woman wants a dude that's over 6ft, 100k+, and and independent woman may require more money.
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Statistics show that today in 1/3 of relationships women make more money. That number is expected to increase with more girls than boys finishing college now.
More so the number of stay at home dads tripled in the last decade.
That idea that women only want a provider is not true anymore now that they can be independent. - +1 y
@ThisIsMyOpinion not likely. men don't want to be stay at home moms. most women get crap degrees, so end-up in debt with low pay. A lot of independent women can't find men who will commit. you know, "Where are all the good men?". Married or not interested in you.
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Stats don't lie. More and more men are going down that road if stay at home dads.
Those useless degrees are not all they are getting. Specially in Europe. So they can provide for themselves.
Times have changed. Women don't need us for money anymore. - +1 y
@ThisIsMyOpinion need and want are different things
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if women didn't need men, men would not be paying 80% of the child support, alimony or using most of the welfare.
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A women can make more than her husband and still get child support if she gets the kids. So there is no need there.
You are right. There is a difference between needing and wanting. If you are luck you find a woman that wants you. If you are not lucky you will find one that just needs you. - +1 y
@ThisIsMyOpinion women 80%+ of the time get the kids. some women may make a bit more, but unless it's a significant amount it's not important or real. Most of the top professions are 95% male. A woman is lucky to land a good provider. These day only an ignorant man who is willing to marry, it's too risky.
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50% of the worlds money belongs to less than 5% of the population. Most of those 5% are men.
Still there are many women today with high paying jobs. In medicine, politics and even engineering. The idea that the men need to be the provider is age old. - +1 y
@ThisIsMyOpinion maybe but most still want it, and as a woman make more she demands more from a man. The proof is all the educated women who can't find men and their requirements for men.
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I am sure no women wants a lazy blob on the couch who doesn't work. That is normal.
About the rest I guess it depends on the woman. - +1 y
@ThisIsMyOpinion sure, but expecting a man to earn 100K is unrealistic, that's like 5% of men, and many are married already, add in 6ft the available men is even smaller. And those men who know their value can choose from any young woman and never commit.
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So we are lucky that most women don't require us to be like that.
If you have to choose one side or the other why would you choose the side who wants to leave you?
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+1 yNeither. I want a woman who is loyal, supports me, honours me, and understands that we're a team in all matters. "Interdependence" basically. Read some Steven Covey. He said it best.
00 Reply A balanced mix of both, as both of these options are undesirable. Who wants a stalker or someone who doesn't want you?
00 Reply2.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. I love it when a girl is confident and independent and she can balance both of them with everything else in her life
00 ReplyEither is fine, just make sure that you don't start getting edgy and hostile about being independent. A lot of women get like that, and that is definitely a turn off.
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