Guys, what's more attractive to you, a dependent or independent woman?

[AlongCameCindy]

Independent.

Dependent.

[lucas262]

I was just thinking today how family always encouraged my sisters to never be dependent on a man. Because they've dated some real shit bags.

And some good men but it can be bad if you can survive on your own and they aren't good men.

Today I was thinking women shouldn't be dependent on a man for anything.
But also not independent OF men.

Lotta women try to be like men, no just own ,, equal,, but the genders aren't equal we're different and we should embrace it.

Men are off put by the masculine energy some women out out. women trying to attract them using what women find attractive in men, a degree, money resources, those are a plus to men but necessities for a lot of women. I mean a man will fuck anything, but her only commits to something else and the majority of men only care abiut how good a partner you'll be. How are your gonna benefit his life, how your going to add to it. He already has money and stuff but he needs you. You see what I'm saying. You have a irreplaceable role in your man's life he can't really replace with money or things.

If you really want to be a career woman all good you should be able to go as far as you want, just don't try to fit it all in. be realistic with your expectations of life and of men.

I encouraged my sisters to be self sufficient, depend on themselves for attention, validation and self love. They should be enough in their own eyes and ot need everyone else to tell them they are. Lotta women today are attention junkies. Makes people miserable.

That's confidence.
You should be able to pay your own way, bills food etc that's independent.

You should be able to take care of yourself if something breaks you watch a video and fix it, women aren't as strong as men ok buy a gun it's an equalizer.
Self sufficiency is strength.

Because when you don't rely on anyone to take care of you but your allow your self to be taken care of. That's a whole different thing to me.

She let's me play my role but isn't totally dependent on me doing so I like she has that confidence in me to let me have rhe reins.

If your leeching of mom and dad or have a rotation of simps doing shit for you, and you are on only fans, or finnessing men on dates for free shit, if your ego is fragile and you need another person validation and attention. If you always people please and don't stand against the crowd ever. And you opinions are shaped around your ego and emotions not facts.

Your neither strong, intelligent, confident or independent. Your a child. I say because iv seen both the real deal and the talkers.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Both. A woman who doesn't need me is not a woman I want around me. The fact is if she is looking at me like I am disposable i. e. she doesn't need me but wants me (until a new model comes out) I don't want that.

However if she cannot function without me, I don't want that either. What I and I think deep down most men want, is a woman who is independent when he is not their, who can think for herself and take care of herself but willingly chooses to submit and be dependent on her man. He is the leader but he is the leader that SHE CHOSE. They are equal but different, his roles she is dependent on him for and her roles he is dependent on her for so that they both balance out, but neither can simply be replaced by some one else.

That kind of relationship one where you make yourself depend on another scares a lot of people these days because it requires not only good judgment in character, but it also leaves you vulnerable and most people are simply to fearful to let themselves be vulnerable which is why this is not considered the popular choice even though I think deep down both men and women crave it (and more then they want to admit).

[DellBell]

I think guys would rather a lady that makes her own money has her goals and life outside the relationship but is also able to show that she needs her partner now and again. A man likes to feel wanted and needed but not to the point that a woman is only depending on him and has nothing else outside of her life apart from the relationship. I'm pretty sure that would make any man want to run a mile.

[TwoowT]

As I heard majority of men are scared of dependent women for many reasons and mostly that she doesn’t need him in her life to be the first supporter. She knows what she wants and what to do which’s great but to guys that would slap their manhood and makes them feel that they’re useless in the relationship and for many other reasons too not just those. See even the pool result. lol

[AD240pCharlie]

That doesn't really have much to do with independence, though, but pride. Most independent people realize that it's impossible to do EVERYTHING on their own and especially in a relationship since the point is that you're supposed to work TOGETHER. A woman (or man) who makes her partner feel useless in the relationship is more often than not the type of person who refuses to let anyone do anything for her regardless of how small that thing is simply because it would hurt her pride. One can be independent and still let your guard down and rely on your partner once in a while.

[coachTanthony]

-----There is really no such thing in my opinion. Most women are independent and dependent on some things in their life... but not everything. The question should really be:

"Guys, whats more attractive to you, a masculine woman or a feminine woman?

~Coach T Anthony @thedatecoach IG

[YOLOIFIC]

Seems to be semantics, but I do agree nobody is 100% dominate or 100% submissive. Though my wife might be the exception to that general rule she wants me to decide everything.

[VanillaSalt]

Lmao so many downvotes.

[coachTanthony]

@VanillaSalt Those are my raving fans. They don't know any better LOL

[SteveSmith1985]

Right in the middle. Like many things in life... Neither extream is good.

[MysteriousDarkness]

What I don't are the people who claim to be independent to the point they don't need anyone to do anything for them. They claim to be what I call absolute independent. I will use a hypothetical scenario to explain it. Lets say you were put in the wilderness somewhere naked with just your body and nothing else with you. You have 2,000 miles to go in any direction to get to civilization. There is nobody else to help you servive. For the most part if someone is independent they are societies form of being independent.
I don't want someone so independent that they make me fell like I am not needed or how I do things is never right.
I also don't want someone I have to constantly show how to do things, I have to make all the plans and decisions etc. If something happens to the person after being with them for some time then that is understandable.
I want someone who is willing to help out and does with the laundry, cleaning, cooking, making major decisions, schedule their own appointments etc. On top of that they appreciate what I bring to the relationship. Luckily I have someone like that and that person is my girlfriend.

[Lliam]

I chose A. I don't want a woman to have a stuck up attitude or act like she doesn't a boss. None of that strong feminist crap. I like a woman who can be tender, sweet, empathetic, caring and feminine. But I don't want a mindless door mat or servant. I admire a woman who thinks for herself, is open minded and curious, smart, perceptive, intuitive, hard working and determined, confident in her abilities and comfortable in her own skin. It's okay if she can be bull headed at times.

She doesn't need a man to take care of her, she wants a man she can look up to, as well as give her the sexual satisfaction she needs.

[YOLOIFIC]

Being stuck up doesn’t mean you’re independent or dependent.

[Lliam]

Typo in that first sentence. "... act lie she's a boss."

[ChiTown33]

This hard to answer. Because when I think independent I think of an assertive career woman that NOTHING is EVER good enough for her. Which sounds like a nightmare woman.
Then I think of a dependent and I think of a housewife. That is completely subserviant and depends on you for everything. That you ALWAYS have the answer.

And I guess I just want a partner. An intelligent and kind woman. Someone that is strong where I'm weak and vice versa. Someone that takes me as I am and vice versa. Yet still wants the best out of them and encourages them to be that person because they love them. And it only deepens over time.

My guess is that woman is more independent then dependent. But I know I'm at an age where I'm done with trying to keep up with the joneses if I was ever that type to begin with. I just want to remain financially secure for the rest of my days. Live, love, and be happy. I'm not down with trying to impress anybody.

[Mir95]

I'm ambivalent about it. My country's economy isn't at that stage where everyone can have a good career oriented job. If I'm making money and my SO isn't making that much that wouldn't bother me. Only thing is that it's a good thing if she has a good career and is financially independent coz in case something happened to me , even with good insurance that can affect her life financially as well. If I was like super rich to the point that she wouldn't be affected financially even if I died then I won't care one bit about her being financially dependent on me.

If I was rich and she was in some dead end job, I'd prefer her to not work. Although if she actually has a job or career that she likes I'd support her given that it doesn't require her to move locations, coz that's something I'm not willing to do at this point in my life.

[blank_expression]

If a woman is purely independent, she is living in the woods, killing her own food, drawing her own water, chopping her own wood, and living in her own mud hut/cabin—I am close personally though. Other than that, I still haven’t seen an independent woman other than in perception and attitude only. Typically, the closer the woman is to the Grizzly Adams type woman, the further she is from false independent perception as she lives in a state of reality. If having a high-end career, living with bills and paying them to death do you part (from the bills), and hating on or disrespecting men since you now peer down on them is the mark of independence as perceived, I think you might be on your own in the long run. If you start out with humility and still respect men but are a truly independent natured person, you are a good mix conducive to a functional relationship. Therefore, you should scrap the acid vs. alkaline choice that wreaks feminist.

[YOLOIFIC]

I’m attracted sexually to more dominate or as you called them independent women. Problem is I’m really dominate too, so it ends up being a mess and has never worked.


My life is very submissive loves to please people to the point of irritation at times for me, but in our relationship it works. She wants someone assertive and I’m assertive. I don’t like submissiveness in a woman but it’s okay because she loves me and we get along well.


Sometimes what you fantasize about isn’t practical for your situation. I’ve even tried to get her to be more dominate at times in bed but it simply didn’t work she’s too submissive. So I’ve learned to adapt over time and while it wasn’t way it was the best thing I ever did. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[Pasiton5]

I admire a independent woman shows character strength and not being dependent on anyone when I go out with a independent woman we have a great time, I know she's not with me just because but truly wants to be out with me no expectations or empty promises or talks of my phone bill is due it's about to get cut off, that is not my concern got my own to pay you know, but I find a woman who made her own way is more honest why I admire a independent woman, so cool to be with

[JDavid25]

Like others have said.. I like it in the middle.. Every person should have some independence, but not act like they don't need anybody because that's far from true.. We all need people.. That's why we exist.. Because we need each other in one form or another..

[hahahmm]

A mixture. Independent in things she should be able to do for herself. Dependent on me (voluntarily) in issues she shouldn't have to do for herself. And she should be smart enough to see the pros of not going into dangerous situations without me. Like she shouldn't be going alone into a high crime area. Especially at night.

[Boromir]

I want an adult to have a relationship with, someone that can manage together with me a family and a professional life, with kids, two jobs, groceries and taxes to be paid at the end of the day/year. I don't need an adolescent that's just considered adult because she's past the legal age and looks for someone else to spoil her after her daddy.

[TruthBringer]

A combination of two. EIther of the two can be toxic to be in a relationship with. Someone who is fully independent happent to often be self-centered in a way that they don't want to rely on their partner and are incapable to be in a team. A fully dependent person can be suffocating.

The ideal combination the way I see it is a partner who is independent in leading her own life while also allows and wants me to enhance her's.

[friendzoned4life]

An interested woman, that doesn't change the colors of her nails as a hint but flirts obviously with me as a hint.

And after she got me be loyal, loving and understanding and especially support me emotionally when needed and be my reason to keep smiling on a bad Day.

Then independent or not doesn't matter

[Adam1978]

It's the wrong question. She should be independent but care about the guy and not act against the interests of the relationship. The last part is the key not if she manage it independently or not.

[EmbraceThePain]

I think a mixture of both is the most attractive. A woman who can do stuff for herself and a woman who can be vulnerable, trust, and ask for help is attractive.

[JSmuve]

It's impossible to say without properly defining the terms. I think most guys want a woman who's self-reliant when she needs to be but defers to the guy when it's appropriate to do so. Too independent and she's cold, masculine, and aloof. Too dependent and she's clingy and child-like.

[ArztSchlachthof]

Dependent in the matter of being capable to progress in her life on her own - not to be confused with not needing anyone in her life. Everyone needs others, that's how our society is built.

[Omario2049]

This is an EXTREMELY loaded question and proves u the asker doesn't even realize what u're saying. There are many ways one can be independent and dependent at the same time. Also u can't be successful in any relationship without being dependent on the other person. Hence why most women are single and will die alone. Get the balance right.

[rounddablock]

Independent just as long she doesn’t have an attitude about it. Being independent in western society should be expected for women nowadays given all aggressive support society gives to women.