I noticed that the ugliest women always have the better looking nicest husbands, while the gorgeous women I know often end up with jerks and cheaters ( these jerks aren’t even good looking). And I hate when I get replies that ugly women have better personalities cause it’s definitely untrue, that’s even more surprising cause the ugly women are usually ugly in the inside too while the gorgeous women who get mistreated are reals sweethearts, sometimes they are even the breadwinners in the couple. On the other side I know three ugly women who married good looking successful men, who don’t ask them to work so they stay at home, never do anything, and get treated like queens, while I see many pretty women being exploited. I feel that hot women are only loved if they are famous
Maybe it's because these so called "Attractive" men have already tried the whole process of judging partners based on their looks and have been burned too many times due to personality incompatibility, or too much drama, or because they're sick and tired of other guys trying to get the girl's attention.
Perhaps they realise that nobody's "good looks" are going to last and when you're old and wrinkly with parts sagging more than they used to, your partner better have more going for them than just their looks. Once your looks are gone, what do you have left?
If you have very little in common and everything was based around the superficial, then that could be a problem.
I'm sure there are many attractive women out there who can offer a lot more than just their looks and their bodies, but there's also the problem where many would see those attractive people as either already taken or out of their league so they don't even bother to approach.
Some attractive guys may not even think of themselves as being attractive to being with. I always thought I was ugly and no girl would want to be with me back when I was younger, because no girls actually ever approached me and I was never really that popular. I didn't really find out girls thought I was attractive until my mid 20s when some actually said so.
I thought they were full of crap, but out of curiosity I put a pic up on HotorNot (back when it was cool) and I turned out to be a 9.7 out of 10.
I thought maybe a 6, or pushing a 7 on a good day. But by then, I was already conditioned to thinking of myself as being average and never really used my so called "Attractiveness" to my advantage.
I did have what I thought were attractive partners, but most were deep into creating drama or tried to change me into what they wanted, rather than accept me for who I was.
The point being is that there are many reasons why an attractive guy might go for an average or "ugly" girl, and those guys have probably just got fed up with the usual high standards, high maintenance and high levels of drama and BS that comes from most (not all) attractive females. They ran the gauntlet and had their fun, but decided to be more practical about their future and who they want in their future.
Hell, maybe the average or ugly girl they are with is a freak in the sack and better than anyone else they were with before.
You are cherry picking. If your arguments were any more one-sided, they would tip over.
Look at your statements:
"that’s even more surprising cause the ugly women are usually ugly in the inside too " (supporting material? evidence? proof? are we just supposed to take your word for it?)
"while the gorgeous women who get mistreated are reals sweethearts, sometimes they are even the breadwinners in the couple." (supporting material? evidence? proof? are we just supposed to take your word for it?)
In conclusion, your statements are about your own anecdotes and observations. Which is fine - you are entitled to stating your observations.
However, the problem comes when you are trying to make a blanket statement on 7.2 billion human beings based on... three - or to be more generous, a handful - of examples.
"On the other side I know THREE ugly women who married good looking successful men, who don’t ask them to work so they stay at home, never do anything, and get treated like queens, while I see many pretty women being exploited. " (Emphasis mine).
Which you then use to prop up your argument in your question: "Why men treat ugly women better?"
You would be wise to take heed of this adage:
"Before you ask why, ask if."
I will leave you with the wise words of Roald Dahl, who wrote about this issue far more succinctly and with more panache than I could ever hope to bring:
I've seen this a few times as well. I don't get it, either. For some reason, I've noticed that nice people in general always seem to end up with total asses (who are usually ugly from the inside out) and put up with their bullshit, and I have no idea why anyone would want to do that. They must see some redeeming qualities in their partners, but I sure as hell don't looking from the outside in. Maybe they're in complete denial, or it's very likely that they're extremely easily manipulated and controlled as well.
I actually got cheated on with a girl who was much less attractive, not nearly as smart as, and horribly meaner than me when I was in high school. It hurt, bad, especially since he acted ashamed of me and treated me like shit when all I ever did was try to be good to him, and he acted proud of this girl and always sucked up to her. The guy was no prize either though (and still isn't; he's essentially a bum by choice and looks like hell), so she did me a favor in the end.
I've also known really nice people, many good looking as well and some not as much, but still great people, who tolerate cheating from partners who have shitty personalities (sometimes accompanied by severe mental issues or the type of behavior where they love to self diagnose themselves with mental illnesses) and are maybe average at best on a very good day, but never remarkable in any manner. I guess they must have low self esteem and are under the impression they can't do any better.
Well I think you are generalizing a bit too much even though I upvoted your question. Thing is, I'm 35 and I've been around (not in that way) but what I mean is I've had jobs in Public Service (Customer Service) these past years... I am ALWAYS dealing with Customers at my job! And I was in the same position at different company four years back so I know what I am talking about...
Sometimes, it's because: -The guy is physically ugly too! Honestly, I have seen this too! -Looks can be relative. -Maybe she had an accident so that's why her face got disfigured. -How do you KNOW that she's always nasty? ! Maybe thats what you WANT to believe! Actually, I have seen the ugly on the outside but really nice on the inside combo a lot more. -Accidental pregnancy from a one night stand! -The dude isn't shallow.
Probably because they've more to offer than just looks. You sound like my aunt gloating about his ex marrying a short plump accountant and how he downgraded when he dumped her, truth is my aunt works part-time in Lidl at the till, has a degree in sociology, is in huge debt, can't cook, won't clean, lives still with her parents and is in her mid 30s. Of course i wouldn't say any of this to her.
It is all simply perspective. Personally, while I am gifted in looks, I find myself physiologically attracted to average to below-average women. While I stated their looks based on the generally accepted, I find something about them very attractive. One in particular is this skinny, scraggly girl that parks her horse out front of my place and stays with me sometimes, she doesn’t try to look good, she walks around barefoot most of the time. She is little and strong as hell as she can split wood with an axe and probably shoots better that I do. She has a hidden beauty within her plainness. She is one of those that the closer I get to her, the better she looks. Some of the hot women with all the make-up I find that the closer I get to them the worse they look. The unfortunate truth is that most women that look hot are very bad in bed because they are so self-absorbed by a lifetime of compliments and attention so they are cold high maintenance partners. The plain to below average women are giving and they treat me special and that I like. I enjoy being spoiled. I naturally and instinctively treat them special because they are warm towards me.
Expect maybe in the business world, looks aren’t everything, and they really don’t mean much in a relationship long term.
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If a woman treat you like a god gift just because she’s ugly then she’s just a manipulative unconfident hypocrite bitch. Even pretty women can be caring, loyal and faithful but men refuse to see this.
Honestly it depends on the age of the couple. It also depends on how you judge their personalities and how you interact with them individually. Yes pretty women can be sweethearts but imagine this, every single pretty girl has to live her entire life being pestered by guys who are only after their body. This pretty girl then reacts by being really mean to guys and goes out with jerks who fight for her and keep other jerks away. You might be friendly but she is not friendly to all the guys. Ugly girls get picked on by pretty girls or generally grow up feeling jealous or spiteful of that one friend she had who got all the guys and she in turn becomes more harsh to other women, but she can also become a more suitable partner for less aggressive guys who dont want to fight every guy on the way to the movies.
This isn't explaining the life and times of women but can you understand how one would act if they had to fight off all these gross, perverted guys all the time. I see plenty of girls go to perverted jerks for protection from other worse jerks, or humble guys with pretty girls get bullied away and that's all the pretty girl is surrounded with. Jerks think for themselves and so they aren't after those ugly girls. Much easier for a humbler guy to hanker down with.
Sorry to say it but generally speaking the hotter a woman is the stupider she is. Both intellectually and emotionally. Usually because they spent most of their young days being indirectly told by society that they are special and "above others" through the way the got special treatment all the time. They slowly learn that they can behave in certain ways that others of their gender cannot. As we grow older however, and wiser, few of us like someone who thinks theyre above others. So those bitches are left with the guys who like that, and thats usually guys who thinks the same about themselves. And ugly women have better personalities, always. They are normal people who have personal interests, hobbies, goals, views. Hot women usually have none of that. They will act like they do but they are so retarded they dont even realize that every single one of them act the same exact way and speaks of the same exact interests (shallow unreflected and copied popular opinions and views). They are always the same exact person just with different looks, same shit different wrapping. Obviously im talking in general, but barely as i seriously seldom meet a hot gal that isn't dripping with privileges of all kinds that she's constantly, semi-obliviously cashing in on...
Also sry to say but a lot of the top guys gals find attractive will deliberately find someone not neccessarily ugly, buy noticeably in another league knowing that will make her always appreciative, not to mention she will never leave him for cheating. So from his view he has a good house wife, and then hotter gals that he sees on and off.
You being stereotypical to pretty women, and honestly what gives you the right to judge who is pretty and who isn't. I think I'm pretty, but that doesn' t mean I dont have values, or am not educated. It's wrong of you to think like that, and I think when you meet a pretty women you just get intimidated by her, just cause that happens it doesn't mean she's a bad person automatically. So I next time you should actually have the balls to get to know someone before judging someone and making a fool out of yourself.
Im taking education rn, there tons and i mean tons of both pretty and hot gals everywhere with tons of intellect and knowledge. Im just saying when i go out thats not usually the type of person i meet behind a hot gal. As i said on average, generally speaking. The right to judge others the same way i judge myself is something given to me at birth and though there are different tastes most guys agree on "hot" gals if not "pretty".
This is a guess put of left field but bear with me. Many people are concerned about being cheated on and have a need to find security in a relationship. Pretty successful men generally have their choice of the catch, however if you choose another pretty successful person you may have to deal with another person contending for your boo. If you choose a middling person, you have then gained an upper hand in the relationship,(they feel blessed to have gotten you, hence you are highly valued) and you generally will it have to contend with others attempting to woo her away from you as on the outside she might seem like less of a catch. So, from this point of view it could be said that it is a safe and secure option for a long marriage, he feels like he is making a change for the better in her life and she feels like she won the lottery. They are both fulfilling the need of security for the other. Just imagine that you never had to worry about your partner leaving? Sounds pretty nice.
Also, this next one is personal experience. If you me3t someone and are not illitially attracted to them you might get to know them and fall for who they are, instead of what they are. If you take out initial physical attraction you have the opportunity to forge a stronger bond with your partner by virtue of actually liking them for who they are before you get waist deep in hormones.
My first partner was long distance and we spoke for months on the phone before I ever met her, I loved her from before the first moment I saw her and even though she was not at all my "type" I though she was the most beautiful creature I had ever seen...
I think your looking at it the wrong way. The ugly girls dont have douches chasing after them 24/7, so they spot the good guy who is genuinely interested, the pretty girls get their pick of the guys, and choose the wrong one every time. So it comes down to naivety, availability and intelligence, not personality, and only looks in the sense that pretty women have more choices to screw up than ugly girls, who likely are more likely to choose the good guy because only better guys will give them a chance.
hmmm... I'm not sure what are you trying to suggest. Being attractive as male of female doesn't give you a guarantee for a successful relationship. You have only more opportunities to start one. Assumption that less attractive people are more loyal is a fairy tale as you pointed it out in your take about males. If I look at successful couples around, 95% of them are with partners on the same attractiveness level. There is a difference, most guys are more pissed when they get rejected by a very attractive woman, compared to rejection of typical attractive ones. You don't need to be Sigmund Freud to know what is the reason for this specific behavior.
Men don't fall in love with a Woman's looks. They fall in love with the complete package. Yes.. they have to be physically attracted of course but it goes deeper than that.
Personality, virtues and common interests of the Woman is probably 85 to 90 percent of what matters most to a man. Also, I often find that what a woman classes as "ugly" in terms of other women, Men do not. Men hate fake, hate makeup and we don't like women who are trying desperately to be some celebrity or some model they've seen 8n women's fashion magazines. Most Men do not find those "fashionable" and "magazine model" types attractive at all. It's usually the opposite.
First of all. What you call ugly is beautiful in someones eyes. All this time you might be trying to figure out how this ugly girl has something, when she is actually beautiful and you are just twisting her looks in your mind based on a very specific idea on what is beautiful. The way men see beauty and the way women do is very different. What is ugly to you might be a goddess in his eyes. And secondly... what? All these posts here about how good looking people have all the advantages, most important of all how they are treated much better and others just go out of their way to please them that I don't know how you got this. The only thing I can think of is women who are not beautiful enough to get constantly praised for their looks and everything handed to them develop other talents and weapons to use instead of beauty. They have the confidence, self respect, intelligence, sharp quick wit that men or anyone admires and they treat that person better.
First off, what most women call ugly, most men find attractive & the hippo shaped women a woman says is ‘good looking’ based solely on hair or some other factor men care little about.
It used to be that the hottest women had the worst personalities on average (from a male POV). That has shifted towards most women in general now but still the odds of the slightly less physically attractive woman having a better personality are higher.
Why is this? Because the best looking women are the most self-centered usually. That isn’t good for relationships. Especially if she has almost nothing to offer - and as you point out - the man has a long list of desirable qualities & resources
Because ugly women feel they aren't good enough for their man so they treat him like a king to compensate. Kinda like how most men treat women. The man feels special so returns the favor in kind. He appreciates the effort the ugly girl puts in because most other girls don't do the same.
I have noticed it pretty often too.. I think its mostly because the woman who are competitively less good looking have deeper sense of emotion and as they don't get more attention from other guys, they thend to appreciate their partner more and satisfied, which a man always appreciates the most. Where the better looking women's have more options to choose from they tend to ignore the deeper emotions and somewhere less compromising. That probably filters out a lot of people with deeper sense of emotion...
I feel like u've recently gone through a breakup or got cheated on, in that case: my sympathies. However with what u are saying i don't really agree with it but i get what u are saying. Let me explain, so what probably happens to does u call "ugly", they probably are less picky with the man they have/want ofcourse I'm not there so i can't be 100% accurate. Just ask yourself: what do i want in a partner? Then realise the more things u say u "want" the less choices u have + a little side note, the smoother a person is the more practice they probably have so the more chance of them being a multi-partner person (there just being themselves). So my advice to u unless someone has a major flaw that u absolutely couldn't get over, give them a more open-minded chance.
Wow! I didn’t expect to read anything like this but somehow find that I can relate. To be brutally honest, my twin sister and I both are above average when it comes to looks. I am in no way saying this to make myself seem on a superior level but I have been told numerous times that I am more beautiful as we are always compared side to side. However when it comes to boyfriends that my twin and i have had, i end up with guys that are more jerks and she gets more sweethearts. Maybe it has to do with personality too since I am very outgoing and she is more introverted. We both have a love for helping animals and do a lot of good work together but still end up with different types of guys working in the same animal fields as us
It's a sad reason, it's not generally true, but like 50/50
It's because the ugly women gotta compensate their looks with intelligence, culture, family values, personal improvement, and life stability, and that's what good stable guys want.
While the beautiful women think their looks are more than enough for the entire world's problems so they let go of many important life subjects such as personal self-improvement or the passion to become better stable people with better decision making, self-control, and sense of self-worth, just because they get validation from many shallow people cuz of their looks, so they're fine with that as it keeps their egos afloat, and that's what shitty cheaty douchebag guys want, a girl who can be manipulated once she's validated, making her an easy catch AND a great ride for their hormones as the women would look pleasant and arousing.
You being stereotypical to pretty women, and honestly what gives you the right to judge who is pretty and who isn't. I think I'm pretty, but that doesn' t mean I dont have values, or am not a good person. It's wrong of you to think like that, and I think when you meet a pretty women you just get intimidated by her, just cause that happens it doesn't mean she's a bad person automatically. So I next time you should actually have the balls to get to know someone before judging someone and making a fool out of yourself.
You obviously can't read, lemme point out that I said I'm not generalizing, I said it applies to roughly 50% of women in my opinion, have some respect and learn to fucking read before proving to me that you're an immature child and calling me names, thank you.
Not me, I always treat hot women better... and I completely agree with you, it's not true that ugly women have better personalities. From my personal experience, they are usually very ugly in the inside, because they are frustrated due to their lack of good looks (and most of them were bullied in schools).
My neighbour has a very ugly girlfriend, she is controlling him all the time, she is obsessively jealous and very annoying person... he thinks that she will change if he continues indulging her all the time.
I also have a female colleague on work, she is an ugly and bitter old woman, very irritating and unpleasant to work with (probably because she never had children, I guess no man wanted her).
Are you just sad and angry that you can't find a good looking great guy? Because there are no evidence that all those "ugly women" are ugly on the inside. There are different people and you sound like a "nice girl" 🤷♀️
Look at her posts she's calling guys cry babies and fucked in the head then whinging why guys would prefer an ugly girl who treats him right instead of a good looking girl who treats him like trash
Not every guy looks only at the books cover, some actually look much deeper into the book and they see what nobody else ever saw Personally my girlfriend is faaaar from being a model or super cute or however u call it She is beautifull for me thats enaugh
It's because they fall in love and never question if they settled or if they can do better when looks are the raw focus of starting a relationship it don't last because attraction ally based on looks alone tends to be lust which can become lusting for another with ease
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I see what you mean, in my experience I wouldn't say that guys like these go for "ugly" girls but to me they seem more so plain/average looking. Not going to lie, I've been in situations before where I've had a connection with a guy and they always end up with another girl with no explanation and she seems to be more plain looking than I am. I'm probably going to seem like I'm full of myself from this answer but this is my observation in which kind of relates to yours.
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