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If men have responsibilities towards women... then what are the responsibilities of women towards men? (Page 2)
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Have you heard the quote behind every good man there is a good woman. This means that the woman feeds the soul of the man so that he wants and is protective and chilvarious towards her. How come you say? Well the woman represents a care giver for him. One similar to the mom but different because she can give it to you when you ask for it. But your mom can't.
Okay, but what does that translate to in real terms?
Those terms are very real. Ask yourself these questions and you'll understand.
If woman did not exist would you be here? Would you have a mother? What is your mother to your father? What is a man to a woman and a woman to a man?
I think you miss my point. I would like to know what the physical manifestations of those responsibilities would be. Like real examples, not nebulous aesthetics. e. g Guys physically defend girls from harm or provide resources, etc. So what do girls actually *do* in your opinion and is it comparable to men's responsibilities?
Women can give birth. Can men give birth? Those are not aesthetics. My questions are not aesthetics. I gave them to you so that your answers of them can help you. Use your own head or get a woman to help you. How is that for a real life manifestation?
"How is that for a real life manifestation?"
The only thing you listed was birth, so it wasn't great tbh. Just baby-making? Is that it?
"Use your own head or get a woman to help you."
I already know what I think. I'm asking what *you* think the responsibilities are, and also if *you* think they are comparable to men.
Treat him well
Respect him
Understand him
Find balance between both of us
Share with him
Listen to him
❤️🙂
Also I understand what you mean, men need to be the ones to keep the relationship going and women are often encouraged to think about themselves which is very sad
Men are often encouraged to do that but of course there needs to be 50/50. Men aren’t 100% responsible to maintain the relationship stable
Doesn't he already have all those expectations you listed on top of the stereotypical ones?
What?
I think it's a give and take situation, based upon needs and balance. Not all women or men require the same wants and needs.
I'm a guy that's never needed pampering,
ego boosting or pushing. I've always been
a good getter that provides my own push
and drive.
I honestly feel that we have the same responsibilities. What you listed is the old school society stereotype stuff.
a lot of women still expect it.
But this is what women expect based upon every single statistic and study we have on the subject so saying otherwise is just delusional. So what do women actually provide since they don't provide any of these other things?
Guys are much more simple. They need:
1. Sex
2. Food
3. Love/respect/attention
If he gets all of these he needs from his woman he'll remain forever true and in love with her. If he doesn't, he'll generally wander off looking for one that will.
About two thirds of women get this. The rest either don't believe it, can't be bothered, or simply refuse.
I think we owe y’all the same things we expect, which are to loved, cherished, protected, taken care of and yes, provided for since it’s more acceptable for women to be breadwinners now too.
I don't think you really need to do this for women nowadays most women are independent.
However, if you do this out of love and affection. Then why are you asking to return the favor?
See, if you don't want to do this in first place, then please don't get into a relationship.
The problem with most men is, they would SIMP around a girl and initially that girl won't even care about their existence they would still act desperate and probably creep around her and she will eventually show pity on them and get in the relationship.
So, In general, most men are so desperate for a relationship with women for sex (I am being brutally honest here).
If you don't like women then stop being so desperate to get a girlfriend.
Nobody gives a fuck about you!
They have more option than you do, so fuck off!
Men definitely are not responsible for women. Women can be the bread earner and a men can be a single parent. But every so responsibility you listed should be for both genders. In a relationship it’s important that both parents respect, support & uplift each other. And of course basic things which are not counted as basic things like loyalty, trust & truth..
Well sure, but we are talking in reality. What you said is great in theory but it doesn't play out that way in reality so it really doesn't matter. Its kind of like saying no one should kill or steal, while true they do so acting as if they don't would be absurd. Same thing here.
80% of domestic spending is done by women despite women only making up about 30% of domestic earnings. How is that possible? Well they use men's money i. e. they spend all of their money and also the mans money because he is the bread winner he is the one providing. If you look at spending for holidays men spend four times as much on women as women do on men, for valentines day that is eight times more then women. Statistically 80% of women reported wanting the man to pay for dates. Women are also far more likely to marry up then marry down, economically speaking. Women adamantly refuse to be the provider/breadwinner to the point were even when they make a lot of money they will wait for a man who makes at least as much if not more before marrying them. Those rare cases where they don't they statistically are far more likely to cheat, divorce, and/or be generally unhappy in the relationship.
Men who share in the housework actually have sex less then men who don't, again, based upon statistical data. Meaning that thus far while you claim that these are traits women should have, every study on the subject shows that women do not wish to have these responsibilities for themselves but absolutely demand it of men. So what do women offer men beyond claims that they will be equals but not actually be equal?
We're in the 21st century and 3rd millennium now so it's most likely the same. Though there are still men who are traditional and prefer to do those things and women usually are the ones respecting a man's ego and support him. This is not to say that nowadays we don't do that, but our responsibilities with each other are getting more similar as time passes by.
There are no solid guidelines though. If there was it would be much less confusing.
@bluetoblack99 It doesn't have to be. Guidelines have to be personal for each individual couple not every couple cuz what works for one may not work for the next. That's why it's important to know that you want and are willing to put into a relationship and communicate that to your potential partners. .. One set of rules isn't going to work for all.. Make those guidelines together as a couple what works for you both.
@Brainsbeforebeauty yes but women have unspoken “emotional” guidelines for what they really want in a man. Understanding that is easier said than done
@bluetoblack99 again. . Communication
@Brainsbeforebeauty and communication is great when women actually mean what they say. In the early stages of dating that’s rarely the case.
@bluetoblack99 that's a pretty big generalization right there...
@Brainsbeforebeauty it just happened to me today.
@bluetoblack99 sorry to hear that but that isn't proof that all or most women do that... And then too... What about the men that aren't upfront about what they want, you think that doesn't happen 🤔 it does, but I'm not going to say ALL men do that cuz that would be assumption not the truth
@Brainsbeforebeauty alright here it goes:
> matched with 33 yr old chic on a dating app and she messaged a bunch.
> said you text me and she was reluctant. Straight up told her I wanted to meet people in person.
> she texts quite a bit. We talk for 2 days.
> I give her some space after my last text 4 days.
> text her a simple hello.
> don’t hear from her. I wait five days and then noticed she unmatched me on the dating app
> I figure she blocked me for whatever bizarre reason. Normally I just move on but this one burned a bit I never mentioned sex or anything creepy. I also liked her.
> Against my better judgment I send her a Skype SMS. Saying best of luck with things but that wasn’t cool. Also said a woman her age shouldn’t do it. Figured it was a goner. But I had to say something
> She responded and apologized. Said she went on a really bad date and the guy did something terrible. She wanted to lock down for a bit.
> I told her I felt better. Also said I regretted sending a text via a different SMS. Said I know that doesn’t make me look good.
> She says it’s alright and was glad I messaged her.
> I told her to take her time and I might hit her up later
> I wait two weeks and sent her message last evening. She responds almost immediately. We talked about life and exercise etc (she’s really into it)
> We joke around about having well developed legs and butt from heavy weight lifting
> I throw a flirty hint saying that maybe she should see it for real. Also a disclaimer that I like to joke around but would never do something over the top (send a d pic or something.)
> she then talks about her experiences (including her ex) sending that crap.
> I talk about having nice abs (I do have them) but I don’t like posting them on social media
> she then says I should because some girls like that. THAT was my breaking point with her. Right then I knew she had zero interest in meeting up and I’m just a friend zoned text buddy.
> I send her a frown emoticon and she responds with “lol what?”
> I’m then honest about how I was leading the convo into a date but if she not interested that’s fine. Told her I can read between the lines. Told her best of luck with things
> She responds that she sensed that but said I really wasn’t being flirty enough. Said she “didn’t want to date anyone right now (cough)”.
> I told that when it comes to virtual dating I can say just one wrong thing and it’s game over when it comes to flirting (it’s happened). Also told her I’ve been around the block a few times. I know when a girl is or is not really interested. But I wished her the best of luck.
@bluetoblack99 There's a lot of people doing that these days. Maybe more females than men but there's men also using those sites just for hookups. Not saying you are. I don't user dating sites, but I would progress slowly with someone if I did to see how serious and sincere they are.
The bottom line is she could of easily saved me all that time and hope but just saying “Hey I appreciate you reaching out to me. But to be honest I’m just not interested.” But she did not do that. No. Instead she wants to waste my time with friendzone bs. Her “I’m not dating anyone right now” is an old school weak ass excuse. If Mr. Right comes along she will change her mind real quick. I’m not dumb.
But I didn’t get angry. Wished her luck and said she can hit me up if she changes her mind (doubt she will).
But why is a grown ass 33 year old woman still playing these games with guys? Why does she fool herself into thinking I’m texting to “just be friends”.
That’s one of the examples I’m talking about. She’s not the only one.
@Brainsbeforebeauty with the lockdowns my options are pretty limited. She also claimed to be one of those “oh let’s communicate and be straight up”. Bullshit.
Bottom line is she just doesn’t find me attractive. You know what that’s completely fine. But I made it clear that I’m looking to meet people. Why is she confident I’m okay being a text buddy? I gain nothing from that.
When it comes to communication I did my end and she didn’t do hers. She’s not an isolated incident. More women are like this than not. If I acted more mysterious I bet you she would of been more apt to meet up.
@bluetoblack99 maybe people don't want to meet in person with the threat of Corona Virus... But again to say more women are like this than not is too much generalization... And again women on dating sites do not represent all women... Maybe they happens "more" with dating sites but lots of fake stuff happens on dating sites. My sister's friend actually had one of their college friend's HUSBAND answer her ad not knowing it was college friend of his wife... So see there's all kinds of BS on dating sites from men and women...
@Brainsbeforebeauty while covid is real it didn’t stop her from going on a date with that other guy two weeks ago. I think women are using that paranoia as subconscious self sabotaging excuse.
I know there are real creeps on dating apps and that’s unfortunate. But they are not as common as women make them out to be. Also if they don’t want to take the risk then just don’t go on it period.
No she’s not interested period but since I was “nice” she assumes I’m okay with friendzone bs although I made it abundantly clear I’m not.
That doesn’t mean I expect a hook up. That only means I’m looking for romantic engagement to a certain extent. She’s got little to no risk meeting me at a public place for coffee or a drink.
All of this just leads to “being communicative about what you really want” is actually NOT sexy to women. Also me expressing some honesty about my frustration is also a turn off. No.
It’s got to be a game. I would think women in their 30s would grow up on this but too of them don’t.
I know I’m generalizing but honestly I don’t often see otherwise. I have seen exceptions (my last girlfriend we one of them). But par for the course is disappointing) Just my experience.
@bluetoblack99 again sorry you went through that but dating sites do not represent how all women act what all women want or how all women feel, and if I may, if you generalize and talk bad about women that could be what turns them off... I knew only one person IRL that had such generalizations and low opinion of Females, and I wasn't trying to date this person but it made it impossible to even be friends with someone like that. Be sour about the people who do that to you, but it's the all women thing where it gets wrong... Do you want to be judged, or viewed negatively by the actions of all men 🤔 Or do you want to be judged viewed by your thoughts, views, feelings 🤔 Well women deserve that same respect
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That's a good question and a simple answer for it is...
It's basic common sense, but women don't want to fulfil their responsibilities in a relationship. You get all these women out there that say they want equal rights as men but when it comes to the punishments and consequences to their actions they don't think that they should have that. They want the same rights but because they have a vagina and boobies they think they should be treated special and they should not.
I so disagree with you there.. I think men make way more a deal about vagina and booby than women.. To say women think they should be treated special, because they want to be treated as more than just booby and vagina 🤔🙄
🤣🤣🤣 u know what I mean lol
No I really don't... Because I don't think women use sex to get men to do things for them, maybe some do, but not all... I personally see more men"offer" things to a woman trying to get them to like them, and then say that's what women"expect" . But for this woman, it's character, trust, honesty, respect that gets my love, not his wallet
🤣🤣🤣 we are not talking about you woman lol
No but you're still generalizing about women, I just used myself as example cuz what you think I'm the only female that thinks that way? See, that's why relationships fail today too, people are too busy generalizing. One, two, even if three women burned you in the past, that still doesn't prove all females are the way... There's good and bad people period. Yeah there's females that use sex for gain.. There's also men that use their money or position to attract Females. There's also women that use men for money and men that use women for sex only... But when people act like' All" are like that it's just ridiculous... Do you want to be judged accepted/not accepted for the actions of other men or for your own 🤔
I will protect myself or I won't get myself into trouble in the first place, so my man doesn't have to worry about me.
make him feel valuable
I'd like to provide for myself/ us
Take care of him
Respect him
and many other things.
There is no "one size fits all" criteria for a relationship. Just find a girl you like and sort out those details together.
It’s 2020, our responsibilities should be similar. Support, protect, and provide for each other.
Adding to this... Nowadays, women have more rights to choose, where I live is easier for a girl to get a job than a guy, that doesn't mean the job is good, because most top paying jobs goes to old man's. We talking about middle class and lower.
So the roles which each other should fulfill, mostly, have been inversed. You can see the guys here all complaining, it's true.
Tbh I myself consider important that my partner grows together with me and wouldn't care if that wasn't the case, I think the roles each should fulfill is simply support each other.
Hmm my ex boyfriends were none of that. So my answer: you get nothing for nothing
Women have no responsibilities toward men. Everything they do is "above and beyond" and everything you do is something you're supposed to do. So even when you do everything "right", you get no credit. And there's always something more you could be doing that she'll criticize you for while sitting on her ass.
Never take more from what a man has earned through his hard work needed for this to be something.
Be his biggest cheerleader.
Respect him. Appreciate him.
Let him be a man.
Desire him sexually.
Girls are caretakers, loving, kind and gentle. They raise the babies, look after the home and take care of their husbands. Well at least that's how it was and should be.
Women to be mothers, nurturer, sexual pleasure (that goes BOTH ways, Vice versa), cooking I feel like (both tho), depending on who’s the bread winner, listening and advice, just being a decent human being
To be loyal, cook their meals, do their laundry, raise dem babies etc lol