Why are modern men so unromantic? (Page 4)
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Too many men are not men these days nor understand what being a man entails... now it's cowardly bluster and jealousy/insecurity over what women can do now... that has never been anything other than being a weak fragile boy. So easily butthurt and weak... crying over tv shows and commercials. Do you think them capable of romance while being so petty and selfish?
Lol. I came here to read the blue comments saying how men are the true romantics, just because they want to fuck a woman the moment where they see her with the aim of ghosting her after that 😂
Y is that any different than a girl not lifting the spirits all around her. I mean, if girls were genuinely happy guys would know better that u dont fu*Ik with an innocent girl or lady.
Also, guys dont start off as jerks. I don't know if u understand this. The girl is the one who ultimately flips him on his jerk side from the good side. So, bad girl.
Ah yeah I forgot it’s always the woman’s fault. It’s like this trend about insulting women for having daddy issues while it’s the men who failed as fathers
Yes, and to bring it back. What did God tell Eve not to do?
She had one rule. Dont eat the apple.
Then what happen? Bad guy came and then she ate the apple. Then men failed many corners of every life time.
I believe if women are the problem. Then, women can be the solution. So yeah. We all suck.
Because they haven't been tought how to properly flirt without being creepy. a lot of people think that flirting means you want something more. It can just be nice to let someone know that they are desirable, in an unobtrusive complimentary way. And to have that message returned
I think these days relationships form through superficial ways. Such as dating apps where you the only thing you get is how someone looks and maybe some of their hobbies via their photos. Obviously the attractive guy wealthier guys are going to get way more matches and have a lot more options. Often times having a lot of options lead to them being way over their head and fuck around.
Women don't appreciate it anymore. Romantic guys are stigmatized into kreepos so they give up n just try to get there dick wet for once so everyone acts like an asshole because that's what gets attention.
I don't know. I don't think its just men. I tried to be romantic with one of my exes by trying to do something special for his birthday and I found out that he was with his ex that night and that they had sex. It kinda killed my romantic spirit.
Forget him
He s a asshole
That he was. But I guess I'm a little cautious now when I want to do something romantic for someone else. I'd imagine guys are the same way. If they get a girl that doesn't appreciate something that they did for them they might think twice about doing it again with someone else.
@Simplismilez there is a lot of truth in your followup comment. Yeah, I agree.
What exactly is it that you are missing? What is it that you want from a guy that you consider to be romantic that you are not getting from them?
Good reply!
I don't know why people disliked your comment, you really asked a good question.
🤷♀️? I was genuinely Curious! I swear!
In society you'll get hated for existing. So do so at your best capacities.
Now not all Modern Men are unromantic cause they just want a girl for sex and that's all so I pretty much answered your question and it's kind of sad to think that sex means more to them than old fashion real romance?
A man can have romantic gestures like and still be a disloyal prick. Just focus on finding a good man who treats you right, real love can be found in the little details.
This is true. ^^
True romance and love is how you treat someone and care for them, not what you buy for them.
From who I am and from what I've seen, I think their are alo of romantic gents out there. a lot of girls just dont get them or they aren't "romantic" to their standards of romantic.
It's time to put down your mobile phone and look at what is 10 feet in front of you. Guys are romantic, unless you are attracted to aggressive pigs.
Try going out with a guy whom you keep shoving back into the "friend zone."
Well said.
At first I was going to say its a lost art... However, in reality, its a lost requirement. Men simply no longer NEED to woo women. They get sex to easily these days. Why bother.
Cuz some guys get called creeps who do such romantic gestures.
Men were never romantic, what your thinking of is the yearly days of cinema where men would bring flowers and all that.
Really back in the day it was less bring your wife flowers and more hit her if she didn't clean the dishes properly.
too many women want to be dominated have rough sex with big dick guys that don't care. You need a loving, average dick having, Simp type of guy to have romance.
He needs to value his girlfriend in order to treat her like she's valuable.
Cause most women don't want romantic, caring and real men anymore
My husband can be pretty romantic and he does try. Seems like an odd generalization.
Honestly, it just doesn't seem to work. Women need to understand that men will do things if those things yield results. I've tried to be romantic with women before and they think I'm being a manipulative user.
You just said that if it doesn't your results then it doesn't work right? That's why you're considered a manipulative user. Because you're not doing it sincerely you're doing it just to get results. Why would any woman in their right mind wants to deal with a person that's like that? Would you want a woman that thinks like that to see what she can get out of you and then leave if it doesn't get results? Treat others how you also wish to be treated. Otherwise that's not Romance. We sense the intent not the gestures itself.
@btbc92 I get the logic behind what you're saying. But that's not quite accurate because the nature of romance and love is that you want to dote on the other person to win their affection. If you try to be romantic, and the other people consistently spit in your face, you aren't going to continue to try being romantic in the future. It didn't give you your intended result. Dating IS a transaction, but that doesn't mean it's a manipulative or deceptive one.
That's not true at all. I know because I'm a romantic person at heart. And about doting on another person that's based on personality. I know for myself I'm such a voided and there are just some days I do not want to be touched by people. Not even by my own family. Dating is not a transaction dating is about processing in elimination. You want a transaction relationship then you get married. You are not dating to be trying to keep a person. You're dating to find a potential spouse. Lots of people don't want to get married so they settle for less. If you are settling for less than that also then you're going to be who you attract. What makes it manipulative and deceptive is again your intentions. I can easily accept the rose from a nine-year-old because I know his intentions are pure. But I will not be so trusting to a 19 year-old because usually has a sexual in nature. Why? Because he already went through puberty already. His primary mode is going to be based on physical and sexual attraction. Unless it's out of lust. And most people today do it out of lust. So again. You have to really think about where your attentions are.
I know for myself I'm touch avoident*
Nobody owes you anything in dating. In marriage that is a different story. If you recording each other then you know what to expect. Dating at that point it's however way you make it. But when it comes to romance is out of pure intent. At the same time you cannot be expecting everybody to respond the same way you want them to. Some women like flowers. Some women don't. And that's fun. That doesn't make it any less romantic. That's just do to expectations. Romance is where you can freely be yourself and it's pure and innocent without having to do much in return. Sometimes you don't even have to speak. You can just hold hands and stare at the stars and not romantic. Spending time together is just as romantic. It doesn't require that much work. But what matters is that you want to put the effort. And reality is you cannot be sharing that with everybody because not only is not everybody receptive. But not everybody deserves that from you. YOU decide who is worth that or not.
What that tells me is that you as a person being romantic is not the problem. You are too desperate for any woman to pay attention to you abd want you. In other words. You're not romantic at all your people pleaser. And people Pleasers and I know because I've been one myself growing up. Don't love themselves. So we try to accommodate that by giving love to people without getting that love back in return. That's people-pleasing. That's not Romance. Romance doesn't settle for less and it doesn't settle for toxic behaviors.
@btbc92 I used to be a people pleaser, but I've definitely grown out of that though. I had some personal issues to work through. You talk about how you would be more likely to accept a rose from a 9 year old boy than a 19 year old because he likely had pure intentions, but that speaks to your personal experiences and scars more than it does about men's intentions. Let's do an innocent thought experiment: Imagine that boys aged from 9-19 get into a line and hand you roses. At what age do you begin to doubt their intentions? Now, let's do another thought experiment; let's imagine that we live in a super liberated society where free love is celebrated; why don't you want to sleep with that 9 year old boy? There's nothing non-romantic about dating and love being a transaction. It's not even like I go around feeling "owed" anything for my investment; I just know that I have to pay to play (or get played). I know that you and I both want to think that it should be about love, but when it gets right down to it; dating leads to marriage, and marriage is about security.
Actually no it doesn't it's actually about having discernment. I can sense the intent a lot by people. Regardless of my experiences and scars. I know men who do have pure intentions and I have met many that have not. As a man thinks that his way than access is a way to please me then he's wrong. It's not about the age you see. It's about the Innocence. Are they pure and thought as Jesus had said for us to be. I know for a fact that I am to maintain my virginity until I am married. I know not to be involved with a man who watches pornography and devil in masturbation. I know not to be involved with an individual who doesn't have respect for himself little on other people. Is God himself they know the answer is still no. What you have to understand is why are you dating? What is your intentions? Where does the other person fit in? And most importantly do you understand what it takes to uphold one? What even Jesus has said. There are those that are called. And those who are not. And there are those who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom. Take a wild guess which one am I?
To tell you the truth that's just how you run. But that is not how love run. Gain that understanding from the father who created us. For he is love. If you don't understand the love of the god that created you then you will not understand how to love another woman. Regardless if you believe in God or not. That is how much wisdom and of discernment is lacked in this world. Many have the knowledge but they don't know what to do with it while many have also forsaken it. Please tell me how in the world am I going to connect with somebody who doesn't even understand those basics?
For UC. Flesh will always try to fight with Spirit. But if you don't learn how to tame your fleshly desires than those fleshly desires can either hurt a person or simply benefit you because it's sin nature. Do you not see it's all about testing and trials and tribulations? Because I will also give the example as well considering the nine-year-old. I can tell the difference between a 9 year old who have pure intent and a nine year old who does not. Just like I could tell a 19 year old who has pure intentions and another who does not. Your answers show that you failed the test.
This is why a lot of people fantasize and yearn for the things of real love. But few have yet to obtain it. And understand it. That is why there are but few who can have over 40 and 50 years of marriage and die either a widow or by each other side. While many claim they want to have it but they never receive. Know that the things you cultivate all dropped your childhood is everything you bring to the table in a marriage. Practice starts when you're young. Sex is also about giving and you're learning about sex and practicing sex non physically of course, starting with your parents, starting with your teachers, starting with your pets if you have any, starting with your family, starting with your friends. If you don't already find the importance of that when you are a child and you chose to forsake that as a team for young adult by having sex with multiple people or you supposed to wear your innocence just to fit in. Then you already missed the boat. And it may take you a long time just for you to get back on that boat let alone for you to get that ticket. And his what makes it worse. The ticket is often free. But very few understand it's worth and either choose to either sell it or throw it away. I still have my ticket. And I am not foolish enough to throw it away or sell it.
While it's true that I have my wounds and I'm not going to deny that. But I also know how to respect myself and I also know my worth. I also know not to settle for less. So whether you take this advice or not. Grow. Mature. Build something for yourself and learn to cultivate again those same skills in a friendship. It all begins with the basics. It doesn't stop just because you're an adult. I highly suggest you gained some wisdom and change that mentality before you try again. I am almost 30 and I am in no rush to be getting myself involved in that. And neither is any man going to be forcing me into position I'm not ready for or isn't looking for I don't care if I'm alone I want to be single my entire life into my deathbed. If a man can't respect that he has a gun. I care about doing the right thing. I'm not here to be trying to please anybody except for God. Because at the end of my life he is the one I have to answer to. Not people.
feminism has destroyed the meaning of being romantic. thanks to them a man who's romantic will always come off as someone vulnerable and creepy
Why don't modern women act like ladies?
I am romantic, but with a woman who has earned it. I'm not going to all that trouble for a woman who is not worth it anymore. They don't appreciate it like they used to.
You think women are worthless?
No, I didn’t say that.
I’m not going to all the trouble of being romantic for a woman who hasn’t earned it, because sometimes you go the extra lengths and find out she wasn’t a good a person, and wasn’t worth the effort.
Simple man. Judge them by their fruits. Stop chasing skirt, stop looking at the physical, don't have a fantasy. The same advice I'm telling you I tell that to women to.. you have to be objective about these things. The point is is that when you are being romantic to a person is left to do about earning it's about respect. Because a lot of these women don't appreciate it simply because they haven't been shown. That's why I love these women don't act like ladies anymore because a man is supposed to lead. That is how God made that to be. If you're being romantic to a person and a woman's just find it to be boring, then let me ask you this question? why continue to invest in that woman? It's Common Sense dude. You treat others how you want to be treated. Because what you're saying while understandable and relatable, it's not going to help you in a long one and it won't get you the results that you want. You got to learn to have good judgment call. A lot of these people don't.