Why are most men obsessed with prime ages?

[BloomingCutie]

Like I'm 26 I still look curvy and young. This is gross behavior I dont understand... we're not breeding live stock...

[VanillaSalt]

Lmao all the women justifiably pissed about this assholes opinion. But he’s not wrong. The younger the woman the better and I can give reasons…


Younger women have fewer partners. This matter because “some” me included believe fewer partners means a woman will value the partners she has more. It means fewer comparisons. It means lower standards to meet. It means less douche bags gave her a bad taste making her less a bitch. Women tend to want taller, stronger, better partners then them. So duh age will be higher overall. Also younger women can give birth safer and with fewer complications and chances of problems for the kids… besides this unpopular as it is to hear… your a fucking 35 yr old hag. You ARE NOT as hot as a 18 yr old. You ARE NOT as tight as an 18 yr old.


Older women come with perks for sure… but your values in marriage as you get older ONLY cause your more mature. But it means we missed all the explosive youth years. Men don’t care about your money or status. Not good once’s anyway they got their own lives. They don’t want you for your Whitt personality or support because they got friends and family… they want you for children and sex. Take away them 2 things and there’s no point to find a partner. It’s cruel it sucks but life balances out. Men are useless the first 20-30 years until they establish themselves then they overtake women. Women are beautiful and have unequaled value early on but as you age that value disappears and if you don’t have someone that values you already that means you gotta work as hard as the guys now to find a quality partner.

[Vesuvius87]

I'm 34 and have only been with one man ever. I got conned for years, waiting for him to come and marry me. I had no idea he was a user.
I wanted what many normal women want, to be happily married and a family.

[VanillaSalt]

As did I lady. Growing up as a man I expected being a good man who worked hard and wasn’t poor Ide have a loyal, honest, beautiful wife that would have my children and love me… where the fuck are you?

We’ve been lied to. Women can’t just be what feminists say playing games, sleeping around, focusing on their career for decades then when they ready in their late 30s just find a man and settle down. Men CAN because the things YOU WOMEN value are things people get in their later years. Money, maturity, confidence, skills, wisdom, power… men want a beautiful women to have his babies… the hotter the better but not crazy… we don’t wanna sacrifice or peace we’ve earned for a hot woman. But the women as they get used by shitty men turn nasty that steak or peace.

[VanillaSalt]

Steal our peace… mmmm steak. Ima order a steak now lol.

[BloomingCutie]

This screams virgin.

[VanillaSalt]

Lmao I only do anal so yeah ima Virgin!

[Vesuvius87]

This user was different. He didn't want to marry me to have kids. He didn't care about my fertile years. It was recently that I find out he wanted to marry me after I have my own restaurant business and make more money; that would've taken about 3-5 years later.

[Vesuvius87]

He was after my grandma's money too. When my grandma had a small boutique, he wanted for me to desperately get involved and kept pressuring me to ask for her household rent, wanting me to rent from her, etc.
Basically he never loved me and didn't care about my needs/wants to starting a family... he was after my wealth.

[VanillaSalt]

@Vesuvius87 okay but your still only pointing out one man. There’s shitty people out there on both sides but in regards to being used for money it’s far more likely for men to be the victim and women to be the user.

Besides this what one asshole wants is different then what men in general want. We could have a pissing contest to see how’s suffered more but who’s had it worse… the woman with 12 bad partners and 1 good one or the woman with 3 bad partners and no good ones? Ones had fewer bad partners but 100% of her partners are bad but at least the other woman’s had some success… there’s pluses and minuses to everything.

[Vesuvius87]

True but the main focus is no one ever deserves being used. It's terrible and it can lead to a difficult time in trusting others. Sometimes it only takes one person to ruin your trust. And before our long-distance, I was used for lust. So imagine having to deal with getting used for both sex and money; a long-term user. If you combine everything, I was also used from the start; even the initial friendship (before becoming his girlfriend) was false. Everything was an act. The relationship was fake.

So if you count it all, I've been used for companionship/friendship, my time and emotional investment, relationship, sex and money. Unfortunately I landed a rare human (not among the majority of the population): a real life narcissistic-sociopath, a terrible person.

[VanillaSalt]

Lmao not all that rare… Ide say the decent people are the rare once’s. Especially the women. Think their entitled to respect and the best of the best or something.

[Vesuvius87]

You do know what I'm referring do you? That's not just someone that is entitled towards special treatment. It's complex. That's someone that can literally drain your emotions, goals, life, etc. You've reached the point of believing you've found your soulmate, the special person only to find out everything is a lie, they have little to no empaty and aren't capable of love (not even loving their own mothers).

[Vesuvius87]

I think you and I must learn something; not losing hope. What happened to us just pure bad luck and someone bad or rotten apples crossing our paths.

[VanillaSalt]

Look. As a woman you walk up to a man and ask for a number and you can get it if your cute enough and smart about it. Any man almost. I’m not saying their all gems but stating is infinitely easier as a woman.

Now try being a man with an actual burden of performance. That works often and during odd hours. Who’s hobbies can be shared but are not ideal for meeting the opposite sex. It’s like running a touchdown in football except you start from the 80 yard line and I start at the end zone on the other freaking side.

Just being seen is stupid difficult if your not in a position to meet many people especially today with covid cowards and introverts making up most of the population.

[NamerOfStars]

First thing's first: one dolt on the internet is not "most men". Keep a sense of perspective here.

Now then- humans are animals. For all the distaste we have for that statement's implications, it's still true. So far as natural selection is concerned, we are all absolutely breeding stock. And livestock, too. As mammals, we build societies so complex and enormous that there's an evolutionary advantage in deviating from the "make babies and get outta Dodge" approach that most life forms get, but the more basic instinctive programming still serves its purpose. Tell me, would you react so harshly to the attractiveness criticisms women make of short men? Perhaps so. But it's rooted from the same place: millions of years of instincts don't disappear just because they're no longer politically correct.

That said, there's a helluva lot more to a happy and successful relationship than mere attractiveness, and far more to a human's worth than ANYTHING having to do with sex; clearly, these are the words of some dolt, as I mentioned. But dismissing them as incomprehensible stupidity without analyzing where the ideas come from is setting yourself up to do the same thing.

[BloomingCutie]

Except he's advocating men to have sex with children.

[NamerOfStars]

Quite the opposite- sixteen is a "minor", not a "child". "Child" is a biological term, denoting prepubescents. If you're capable of reproducing, you're not a child.

[BloomingCutie]

They're still underage and illegal.

[NamerOfStars]

Yes. But biology doesn't care about human laws.

[jjj101010]

FYI 16 is the age of consent in most of Europe and other western countries

[NamerOfStars]

@jjj101010 Most of the US, too- but not all of it.

[BloomingCutie]

@jjj101010 thats not a excuse to fuck kids. There's nothing remotely sexy about them they can't even drink or do basic adult shit.

[jjj101010]

I’m not making excuses, just pointing out facts, FYI the drinking age varies from country to country too, in the UK children can drink from the age of 5 at home with parental consent and in pubs from 16 with a meal.

[dustybiker]

You’re looking at this backwards.

Men that think this way and behave this way is a positive. Think of it as them lighting themselves up with a big blinking red light.

It highlights all the great men out there, makes them much easier to find.

[doopayo]

They’re old and sad with the fact they themselves are aging and can’t pull a woman their age because they’re not going to put up with their bs so they prey on young women who don’t know any better

https://youtu.be/QVbfOziAQaY

[Anonymous]

There must have been a chart giving the age hierarchy of man's relevance too.

Clearly this chart is written only with reproduction, or in broader sense, keeping the continuation of species in mind.

The words are really harsh, not recommended to be used anywhere, but the numbers are not that much wrong, to be honest. The same information could be said with more delicacy.

Same is the case for males too, only the limit is a bit higher, and the conditions are different.

Speaking in terms of nature, it does not give a damn what we achieve in our life, but we are, somewhere an essential part of the ecosystem, and hence it is by nature that we are here to just continue our species.

@PrettyPriya here works in medical. Surely she will be able to tell that the information, on a general scale is fairly true. If you want a healthy baby, that is. A baby with congenital anomalies and miscarriages and the mental strain that women get out of it, by nature or even by society is astronomical.

And please, don't get men as in general here. The limits are not set by the society, or men, but are found by science, and by extension, are set by the nature itself.

[Opinion Owner]

And if you don't want a baby, then this is not for you. Then you ought to ask old people, as to what they regret in their life.

[BloomingCutie]

Why would any grown woman or man want to have kids with a 16 year old child.

[Opinion Owner]

16 is the minimum age!!! Not the ideal age. Everything has a range right? Minimum, average, maximum. 16 is minimum. An outlier, analytically. Search the word, 'outlier'.

You become ready for reproduction when menstruation starts in females and extreme hormones secretions get started in males.

Child marriages were there in earlier societies. It is not good but the marriages were happening.

To answer your question, no man would, but technically it is the minimum age. Always has been.
You should note that 23 to 28 really is the ideal age for reproduction. The body has enough elasticity, to be able to give normal birth and enough rigidity to not tear apart and bleed.

[Opinion Owner]

And today too, there are millions of cases of teen pregnancy. Are you able to control your hormones? NO!!! Because that is how nature plays us!

[Opinion Owner]

I really like your question. But you are just a female human. We are only humans. And we are not above the nature anywhere.

[Lliam]

Since I was never interested in breeding, those cliches about age were irrelevant to me. Every one of my girlfriends from age 16 on were on the pill.

I didn't want kids but always loved sex. I've read that women's sex drive tends to be at its peak between ages 27 and 45.

By their mid-20s women also have more life experience and are more mentally mature, so they are a lot more enjoyable to be with than high school and college girls.

And considering that fact that women these day often look amazing well into their 30s or even later, I think women who are beyond their "prime" years for childbearing can be wonderful.

The best girlfriend I ever had was 31. She was an extraordinary, wonderful person but also looked amazing and was hypersexual, orgasmic, experienced and uninhibited.

I married my wife when she was 40. We've been happily married now for 25 years.

[D_Bone_Steak]

There's a bunch of psychological stuff that goes with these rule of thumb theories. Life choices and such for instance... like let's shoot stright to the 35+ group... why, most likely, is she single still? Is there a chance she's a '4' but she only gives 9's and 10's a go in the bed, bath, and beyond and then wonders why they just leave her? Maybe she's crazy and basically chases off any normal human being from wanting to be around them? If she's been riding the CC for too long her ability to pair bond is probably broken. Then there's all those chicks that achieve everything they wanted from a man and then wonder why a man don't want what she wanted in a person and has become. The list could go on and on. I didn't even get to stuff like drug/alcohol use or junk food addictions. ... it's a case by case sort of thing, but these rule of thumb reasonings exist for reasons.

[donkeyde]

Reading your post reminded me of the Kevin samuels comments he do. Especially when you mentioned the cc.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@donkeyde Thanks my dude... Being anywhere near Kevin Samuels is a huge compliment.

[TheSpaceGnome]

1. I don't want kids, also wtf are lemon panties and who certifies them? lol.

2. No clue what "long in the tooth" means.

3. I'd date and marry a 35 year old, or a 25 year old, so long as she likes the same stuff as me, is cute, and is kind hearted, and can draw, and is good at gaming.

I honestly don't see the difference between those 2 ages, and to say they are "throwaways", or that they have high body counts just because of their age, is just retarded.

I'm 35 and my body count is either 1 or 0 depending on what counts as sex.

[FunkyMonkee]

The last girl I ever fucked was 34 and she was pretty damn good and I'd still be fucking her to this day, 26 years later, had the mini-bitch not turned gold digger and started cheating on me!!
But, a lot of this stuff on the chart is also how women see themselves. I've heard from a number of girls in their early 20's just this past month that think they're over the hill and most guys wouldn't want them anymore!! If that were the case, that leaves us adult guys a very tiny window of about 5 years to get together with one of you for marriage and babies! We CAN''T fuck anyone under 18 and you tend to think there's no point in trying anymore by the time you're 23!!

[God_of_Thunder]

The whole concept is ridiculous, and disgusting. The men who truly believe that nonsense deserve to be single forever.

Women of any age can make wonderful, loving partners, and there's no such thing as being "used up" or whatever other BS terms these guys arbitrarily apply to them.

[BloomingCutie]

Thank you.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

That's how some Men see things but I have seen some beautiful in all ages
this one girl I knew from school looked way different from school and she is age
53 looks like a knockout and no shit.. I'm older age 53, birthdate 2/9/68 but
I like women who can still get prego cause I love to have at least one child
and be a dad hey there are Men in their 60's just becoming dads.

[Anonymous]

"we're not breeding live stock... "

Ah, but you kind of are. In a purely evolutionary and historical sense, that is what caused this and drives this. You wouldn't ask why parents would sacrifice themselves for their children, but it's got the same root reasons. It's a species survival mechanism, that evolved when a species had limited offspring. When a species has tons of offspring, the parents often don't give a shit about their spawn.

[BloomingCutie]

This is the 21st century. We are not objects.

[Opinion Owner]

Evolution is slow to act. We are the products of 4 million years of evolution, that gives men hormonal and instinctive drives which can't be suppressed or ignored just because you don't like it.

[Aerissa_Jade]

That is just sick, whoever wrote that is disgusting.

I have no clue why anyone would think we are like that, women can have children into the 40's.

[PrettyPriya]

I'm sure a self-proclaimed "expert" in women did. 🙄

[TsAubreyKate]

Because they don’t want some fat old ugly cow? You women are delusional

[PrettyPriya]

@TsAubreyKate

If you’d like the comment removed above me, give me the word. Otherwise, I will leave it stand for people to see his true colors.

[PrettyPriya]

My fault @Aerissa_Jade

[Aerissa_Jade]

@PrettyPriya True colors for all to see his Misogyny is fine by me.

[Staximus]

This mattered a couple hundred years ago when most people didn't make it past 50 or 60. The prime goal of most families was to have a bunch of kids for free labor on the farm. If your primary concern was to produce viable offspring, it's a valid standpoint. In modern times, people don't care so much about having healthy kids.

[PrettyPriya]

I haven't a damn clue either. Who exactly is the "expert" that determines what ages women are prime anyhow?

[Anonymous]

1. Old women are uglier
2. Theyre tired and bored, so they settle for you, fhe beta good guy (big turn off)
3. Theyre way less interesting and innocent and naive. Even from a psychological perspective they're uglier than young women
4. Theyre more likely to own a home, car, etc so theyll look down on you if you lack those things
5. Theyre more likely to have kids, ex alpha boyfriends they won't ever forget, etc

[BloomingCutie]

Old men are uglier too. Tired and bored too.

Sorry you're a virgin and no women wants you.

[Opinion Owner]

Women rate men 35-40 higher than young men.

[SnakeBoop]

*only incels are bothered by ages in this regard. so they're all men to avoid anyway!

[Sarahr123]

Not every girl is a whore and has acquired too many bodies by the late twenties. All the girls I know who married at 28/29 were virgins or only had one or two very seirous boyfriend before they married. Don’t assume the whole world is like you.

[ChkltCat]

Do you have same values

[Sarahr123]

@ChkltCat well duh

[ChkltCat]

Do you pm?

[ChkltCat]

Hello? means can we talk

[Sarahr123]

@ChkltCat why?

[ChkltCat]

What?

[HighValue]

I'd go with 18 to 30 for an exclusive LTR intending to live together and create/raise a family. I'd prefer between 22 to 27 the most.
Past 30 is too much since I want 3 kids and realistically that would take 7 years after first meeting.

[Sarahr123]

Why waste time? If you find someone you want to spend your life with then marry them within a year. Having three kids after 30 is perfectly possible.

[HighValue]

@Sarahr123 First date for a year, then live together for a year. Then get her pregnant (that takes a year to get her pregnant and give birth). Then she needs a year off in between each kid to be fully recovered and not negatively affect her health in the long run. So 7 years to have 3 kids from the first day of being together.

[Sarahr123]

Depends how fertile the woman is. Some don’t get preggers straight away. My mum got married after four months of knowing my dad. They married in August 97’ and I was born in May 98’ which took exactly nine months because she got preggers literally straight after the wedding. Same thing happened with my sister. My cousin however took seven months to conceive her baby.

I only want two children and ideally space them 3-5 years apart so I intend to be married by 28 because I’d like to have one before I turn 30. Thinking about it that way I don’t have long because half a decade flies by.

At the same time I am scared to settle because I don’t want to end up stuck with someone I don’t like and also be attached to them forever because we share a child.

[HighValue]

@Sarahr123 Yeah, totally understandable not wanting to be stuck with the wrong person after having a kid. That is why I would want to live with the person for a while first. You don't really know someone no matter how long you date until you live together.

And yeah, people aren't always lucky enough to conceive when they want to. It took my parents 6 years between kids to conceive again.

[Curiousgirl2414]

I would assume this post was just satire, but ultimately, the fact that they used the age range 16-21 instead of 18-21 tells you all you really need to know.

[RichSD]

A large reason most people get married is to start a family. You don't have to like it, but that's the reason. Most of us want to have little versions of ourselves to raise and love and have some legacy after we're gone.

[BloomingCutie]

So you want to hump a 16 year old?

[Subarugirl]

Most men do, it’s just not socially acceptable to say it out loud

[BloomingCutie]

@Subarugirl it shouldn't be accepted

[Subarugirl]

Well a lot of countries and states do

[Dinklex3]

Don't believe random posts on the internet.
I've never met a man in the real world who thought like this. Men my age and younger don't really care as long as you're attractive.

[Anonymous]

We do it to ourselves too. Apparently sometime in our 30s is when men will become the most attractive to women because they will likely have their lives together and are the most confident as we ever were. This is supposedly why women like older men.

Also I have never seen someone write the women's version like that, this is obviously written by someone who wanted to strawman the people who do believe that.

[Shark_61695]

I thought this would be about 23, 29, 31, 37, etc. year olds...

Gotta love a woman with a prime age :)