You see more and more articles talking about how all men love younger girls, and that women expire at 25. Even looking younger ain't enough, cause some guys would légit be turned off by à woman for being over 25 even if she looks 18, and the guy in question is almost 30. I am 24 and i remember à 27 yo guy being disapointed when he learned that i wasn't 19.
We see more and more teenage girls freaking out about turning 20 and becoming undesirable, when a decade ago i was 14 and excited about turning 30.
We had famous mature looking women like monica bellucci and angelina jolie getting called sex symboles at 35, but now famous women get thrown away when they are no longer college aged.
It might be true regarding celebrities selection, and there could be logical reasons that seem to make some sense about why men would prefer younger women (I genuinely think some reasons make sense on a theoretical level), but in all honesty in the real side of the things I really never experienced this issue in my life, I'm 31 and still plenty of men trying to hit on me anywhere I interact with someone, young and old, real life or online. I'm not from the US (Italy) and I look particularly youthful but when I talk it's obvious I'm not a teenager, because of deeper voice and mature way of communicating that fits my age. The last time I went somewhere that wasn't a fast paced bureaucracy-related place, was a restaurant with my current partner and the waiter spent 5 minutes skipping his job trying to hit on me and to know me better, in front of him. Very audacious, quite motivated I guess (we laughed about that afterwards). Another peculiar moment was a door-to-door seller coming in my courtyard to sell electricity contracts, but he stopped doing his job and went suddenly personal, complimenting me subtly and trying to have some small talk about each other. I was dressed like total complete shit and also stinking from outdoor work, he was all cool and handsome and elegant, and surprise he was 22, while I was 30... And by knowing my age he got even more interested and that is when he had the urge to give me his number and getting more nervous, in fact.
And to be honest the "funny" thing is that I'm not even "that" attractive, I am considered attractive but I'm not a "stunning babe anyone gets struck by", like, at all, far from that and I don't even use makeup to make myself look better. And part of my charm is in the way I interact with others as well.
So I don't expect to hear any less from women around my age here around...
This is all to say: even though there could be logical and grounded reasons behind preferring young women, and even if one man rejected you because you were not a teenager, most likely you won't experience less appreciation until you hit your 40s, as long as you're not a negative person who seems unapproachable or have really 0 charm and 0 qualities other than your looks. Because you're not only made by "bubbly ingenuous cute very-fertile" properties but you develop other qualities over time, and men have different priorities and preferences as well. For example, in a context of hookups-only, I know (like many 30+) I can offer a much better sexual experience now than when I was 20, to a man, and some men understand this potential extra value in women in their 30s and won't miss the chance to try. Some won't see or prioritize that, as you experienced (and that's fine!). My partner said he could never consider a woman who is younger than 25 because he would feel not compatible and at 2 different life stages, including differences in relationship skills, introspection etc. Sure there are exceptions but generally he feels weird if a too young woman tries to approach him. So as long as you have more to offer than your appearance, you can forget about your age really and there will be always some (worthy) men getting interested in you, in my opinion and in my experience. If you keep getting disappointments I would think the reason is in the way you communicate and in the type of personality you express rather than in your age (especially if you are 25 and your aging signs are just not existent...). Also, I suggest to not focus on that 1 man who broke your self esteem but to think about all the other ones who were interested in you instead.
Very well said. Especially the qualities of 30+ year old woman. They do have a different charm. I will be honest. They have that motherly instinct in them compared to teenage to 23+ girls. She is just upset but I also want to add to your opinion that Instagram and these websites have made men crazy as well. It's not just women who get compliments but men also fuel that ego. Two to tango I guess and a lot of girls in there youth have Instagram and this is definitely creating problems for stable relationships
In Western Society it is due to general male inferiority.
There is an increasing factor of men that are just not simply men in the West. They're weak, effeminate, whiny, Etc in general if compared to people in Central Europe or Eastern Europe they're not men in the West they're freaking women wearing men's clothes. I mean if you tried wearing makeup as a man in Russia if they not chasing you down the streets laughing they're going to beat the s*** out of you in the back alley.
But in the West men wearing makeup isn't just being normalized it's been encouraged.
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Porn which was founded on pedophilia, that is why most of the girls are barely legal and shaved bear.
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Encouraging influences of negative outside factors such as Islam which encourages the younger marriage of girls. And you go to any country that is having a influx of Islamic influence and that is the general consensus.
I point out Islam because in the West there's a lot of f****** whining about Islams and how they're mistreated Etc whereas you barely if not never hear about the victims of Islamic countries.
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Femininity and feminism has been around for a long time after all.
But there is an increasing normal for women being slutt-ish, sleeping around, and everything else so it is encouraging to be involved with a younger woman to avoid that behavior
I'm going to echo stuff that's been said when I say its a) not a new phenomenon), and 2) social media has a lot to play here.
I'd be very curious to know what the age distributions of the female content creators are on snapchat, instagram, tiktok and onlyfans. My guess is it would skew heavily towards the teen-late 20s crowd. These women have used a lot of makeup and filters to enhance their look. So guys are very often bombarded with content of very attractive women and they think to themselves "I want a girl that looks like her". The beauty standards have now been raised thanks to your own cohort.
Now, men have always been interested in younger women because looks is a woman's biggest attraction asset that men look for. Similarly, status is a man's biggest attraction asset that women look for. A young, attractive woman is to a man what an influential, 6' guy is to women. And the most attractive height that women want is 6'-6'1". Does this mean that shorter guys are useless? No. Does it mean that woman 25+ are useless. No. But neither are in as much demand compared to the "top-level" individuals.
In the end, for both men and women, it's all about perception. To a man, the cost:benefit ratio of dating younger women (18-24 yo) is perceived to be better than older women for the following reasons.
1) First, younger woman are viewed to be more agreeable and less demanding or high maintenance than older woman. Their personalities are viewed as being more fun. They also bring less baggage into relationships than older woman and are easier to be around (not always true and young women can also have shit personalities with lots of baggage, but this about perceptions).
2) Next, younger woman are less marriage- and child-crazy than older woman who are trying to lock down a man quickly. I know a guy who's dating a girl in her 30s who's asking him when they're getting married multiple times a day. Do you think he'd have this issue with a woman who's 23? No. There's a certain amount of breathing room afforded with a younger woman. Pressuring a guy into marriage is like a guy pressuring a woman into sex.
3) Their younger age allows them to hold onto their looks for longer. You don't want to put in 100% effort into a relationship only to get 30% of the benefits back. Women's looks tend to begin to fade in the mid-late 20s (some earlier, some later). Lots of women have crow's feet by their mid 30s and lots have eye bags and double chins even earlier. And those who spent their teens and 20s tanning themselves will pay for it later on. Bronzed in your 20s, leather in your 40s.
4) It elevates his status and gives him an ego boost. Landing a young, attractive woman is like a woman marrying a 1% guy. It makes her feel attractive and gives her something to subtly brag to her friends about. Guys aren't all that dissimilar.
"Women's looks tend to begin to fade in the mid-late 20s (some earlier, some later). Lots of women have crow's feet by their mid 30s and lots have eye bags and double chins even earlier. And those who spent their teens and 20s tanning themselves will pay for it later on. Bronzed in your 20s, leather in your 40s."
You're talking about white women here. I've never seen a black, Asian or Latina woman with crow's feet or wrinkles in their 20's and 30's. That's because they have more melanin and higher amounts of collagen in their skin. Ageing is something that has to do with someone's genetics, ethnicity and lifestyle. The view that women start losing their looks at 25+ is just a stereotype and overgeneralization, not the truth
@MidnightOwl57 well it is about perception, which I said earlier. And all stereotypes are founded in some amount of truth. You're right that people with darker complexions are less likely to develop wrinkles and crow's feet (the saying "black don't crack" exists for a reason), while white women are most likely. And in my experience, this is very much true. You're also right that it does come down to lifestyle, which is why I mentioned those who tan in the paragraph you quoted. Sadly, a lot of women don't think about these things and pay for it later.
"12 years old children can see hundreds of naked women on the internet compared to the most powerful kings of the world "
This sentence sent shivers down my spine when I first heard it and realized the guy is really telling us something.
When I was a kid I barely had a computer and a crappy one. I didn't use internet till age 16 and I used to read stories and scientific articles back then.
We had Orkut but never used it. There was this chat rooms which had this excitement and then we had early Facebook where I remember I could send friends request to anyone without being called a creep back in 2011-2016.
But then things rapidly changed for me too. Guys became like girls. I mean I don't think I ever asked any girl for nude or anything but girls who used to get lots of Friend requests changed in attitude in just an year. The modest girls clothes changed in my own university where I studied. We had Hijabi girls and the more modern type of girls but the hijabs instantly left when they entered the university grounds. The modern one's didn't see much change in fact but still were more modest in the way they move about 🙄.
So, the entire evolution of this was pretty rapid especially in last 5 years when people got Instagram models with followers as if they are Jesus or Mohammad SAW or Abrahim or Adam and Eve. I mean come on you people need to realize we are mortals. We can't have everything in life so stop trying to have a taste of everything. You can't get all the women you see on the internet in bed ever even in a 1000 years life (rhetorically speaking). People got legal litigation in my country for sending requests. And Me too in US was almost replicated in my country too.
And then there was TikTok and Onlyfans. Dear Women of the World, you were oppressed in the world before Only Fans but remember you were not as exploited as today. You speak of liberty and freedom but look where has it taken you. You have lots of choices but you can't decide what you want now.
And I am dearly sorry that you have to feel this way.
A little about my own story, I liked a couple of girls who were older than me by 2-5 years and guess what it was them who rejected me and not vice versa.
And, no I am not ugly. I got engaged to this girl and I am happy about it too. Your beauty will fade with time. So, for both boys and girls, stop being too selective, you are a imperfect person so don't expect perfect beauty or body or intelligence. Our ancestors had far harder lives then compared to us folks. So don't be upset if your husband isn't making much or you live in a small room. Or your husband and you both live with his parents or siblings together in same house.
1. More people actually learned biology and know that it is unlikely for women to have healthy kids after age 35 so they shouldn't start a NEW relationship with any woman past 30 if they want healthy kids.
2. More people are realizing how bad women's pasts are and how that affects relationships based on statistics. (Actual events, not wishful thinking.) If she has 5 + partners in her whole life she is unlikely to be happy and have a successful exclusive long term relationship. Yes, that is correct, 5! MOST women are unfit for an exclusive LTR due to their bad morals and past. The younger they are, the less time they have had to mess up their lives.
3. Until men are strong and financially stable, they are not desirable by most women. So when they are in their early 20s and don't have a stable decent job, or a degree yet that can get them a good job, they are often only used and abandoned by many women. More men have figured this out and focused on improving themselves, knowing that they will likely be around 30 + before they are in a good position to have a good partner to create a family with.
4. Many or the women currently aged in their early 30s to late 40s are part of the group/generations that were heavily influenced by college and k-12 liberal teachers and have VERY bad morals and unacceptable bad pasts so they are completely undesirable as a long term partner. Not because of their current age (they were undesirable in their 20s too) but because of their immorality and bad life decisions.
by the way, many older women will intentionally give younger women bad advice because they see them as their competition. The women that fall for it ruin their chances of having a good mate as well. There is no changing the past. Whatever decisions in life people make, THEY are the ones that have to live with the consequences of those decisions. There are MANY women online in their 30s now that hate life because no good guys want anything to do with them due to their poor life decisions.
Always fun smacking women with the baseball bat of truth and watching them instantly gi to shame and blame. Enjoy the one way trip to boxed Wine and cat land ladies
Let’s see when your young girlfriend or wife hits your with a baseball bat with a young men when your testosterone and prostate hits the fan in your 50s
They aren't- they're just being a LOT more open about it. A woman's functional fertility falls off very quickly once she leaves her early twenties, and the outward signs of said fertility are the primary things that attract men, for obvious evolutionary reasons. Similarly, the primary attractors for women are the signs of physical prowess, wealth, and status. As more and more women raise their standards, they find themselves competing for an ever-decreasing pool of men- they're just aren't that many muscular six foot millionaires out there. Men are, by their nature, much less picky- but when the the very highest in wealth and status have scores of women throwing themselves at them, they can be as picky as they damn well please. And they are.
Women don't suddenly lose all desirability overnight on their twenty-fifth birthday; that's simply a point by which age is starting to its damage. There's no shortage of women beyond that age who are still attractive- but pretty much all of them are LESS attractive; that's just how biology works.
Show me any woman past the age of 25, complaining about the lack of men interested in her, and I'll show you a hundred guys who'd be happy to date her- but she'd consider them all "below her", and won't be interested. Fair enough- but she'll continue to complain about the lack of interest. Pretending that youth has nothing to do with sex appeal, or that biology "doesn't matter" because it isn't fair, isn't going to fix the problem; it's how it got started, and it's only going to get worse. Pretending that you still have the same level of physical attractiveness you did at your physical peak is a sure recipe to end up alone.
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OK but why is just the age a factor? There are some 25 yo women that look no older than 20, but men get turned off when they learn their age while they found them attractive at first
Part of it probably has to do with what we see in TV, movies, magazines, porn, etc. There's so many beautiful young women constantly put infront of our faces I'd imagine that has some influence.
I think one of the really big issues though is that men are more prone to exercising, being physically active, and keeping themselves in shape as they get older. From what I see a lot of women let themselves go. I see many women around my age I think would be so pretty if they weren't obese. I'm not trying to hurt anybody's feelings, but you asked a question and I'm answering... a lot of men simply aren't attracted to women who are severly overweight no matter how much makeup they put on or how great their personality is.
The body positive movement is aimed at putting a stop to bullying and making people feel okay with their bodies, which is fine aside from the health problems that come along with being overweight and not exercising as you age. However, it's not convincing guys that obese women are attractive.
When I say "obese" I'm not refering to the hollywood/model industry standard for obese. I love for women to be curvy and I'd rather a woman not be so thin you can see her bones. I'm talking about when they go from curvy to chunky, sagging skin, fat rolls, etc. I'm also speaking as someone who lives in NC. Location can be relevant to things like this because of what we're surrounded by.
Lets start with the title. The answer to the title if taken literally, is that the expectation is to look like your teens/early 20s at 100, because humans in general are obsessed with immortality, and aging is caused by disease, not time.
Women and men who look young while old, live longer than ones who don't.
So people gravitate to mates that look young but aren't. but since most people are aging faster than that middle aged Asian mom who looks like she could be her daughter's sister, and because people on average age at drastically different rates do to many factors, looks say pretty much nothing about a person's age. You can get grey hair or wrinkles at 30, or 70, or never.
So you can't look like any age, you can just look healthy, or sick, and people in general are attracted to healthy.
its a bad idea to promote anti ageist mentality, nature has been using the standard of testing mate fitness in nearly all species since the planet first gained life with sensory organs. It leads to healthier offspring in most cases.
Instead of stressing over desireability, stress over mortality.
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You are worried about being “old” at 24? Smdh.
Anyway men have always been attracted to youth because subconsciously they are attracted to fertility.
Now of course that doesn’t make all men “pedos”. Hell no. The vast majority of us know right from wrong. The vast majority of us will never approach a 15 year old when are grown men and we get disgusted/pissed off at men who do. The vast majority of us wouldn’t ever consider seriously doing something like that because we know it’s sick, gross and wrong. But unfortunately there is a minority of twist and sick predators out there who make the rest us look bad.
But having (realistic) age gaps in dating is a common practice in many cultures. Also legally aged young women do have agency to yes or no if approached by an older man.
However I really am getting really sick of this convenient double standard feminist have in society that a 18-21 year old young woman is strong, viable and independent when it comes to receiving privileges and respect. But if she goes on a date with a man 10-20 years her senior, consensually sleeps with him and later regrets it then she is suddenly no longer a viable adult is responsible for her own decision. Suddenly she’s conveniently a poor helpless little girl again and a “victim” in that scenario.
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There are a few things going on here. First, men of all ages have always been most attracted to women in their late teens and 20s. That doesn't mean it's necessarily who they pursue or date, because a big age gap is awkward and can create some problems. But men of all ages have always been most sexually attracted to younger women. It's just biology.
Also, this is a bigger issue today because the average age of single women has increased drastically in recent decades. Women are focusing on their careers for much longer before starting to listen to their biological clocks and deciding to settle down and have a family. As a result, there is just a lot more discussion and focus on women's age, among both sexes. We are all just a lot more aware of the issues around women's age and how it affects dating.
Also, in the past most people got married and started a family before age 30. Not so much anymore. Because so many women are waiting until later in life, it's a statistical certainty that men are too. When we consider the fact that women have most of the power in the dating game before age 30, and then the tables turn and men have the power thereafter, it shouldn't come as a surprise, when so many people are single in their 30s, that women will begin to feel the consequences of their diminished power as a single 30-somthing female, and there will be a lot of discussion about it.
For all these reasons, younger women are more acutely aware of how age will affect their lives as they look to the future. We also hear a lot more people emphasizing the fact that women should take advantage of the power they have in their 20s and find a good life partner while they have the most options. It's not necessarily mean spirited to say that because there is truth in it and it seems women are misled into believing that's not true, which does them no favors.
From what I've heard, women lose most of their eggs when they're 30.
Most men still want kids and they'd want the best, just like women often want the highest earners, best genetics, etc.
It's nothing to do with looks, in my opinion, as if a woman loses her looks once she's 25 or something (!).
Whilst it's not always the case, younger women will probably have a lower body count too and whether women like it or not, men tend to prefer women who have lower body counts - men are allowed to have standards too and yet a lot of them get shamed for it.
In Western countries, that is not true. In fact the opposite is true. In the past, and in some countries such as Somalia older successful men would marry young girls ages 16 and younger, even as young as 10. In modern society that would violate social norms and mores. Nevertheless, men are attracted to signs of high fertility. Therefore, they prefer younger women over women ages 27 and above that have lost their bloom. Sex symbol have always been young and beautiful and an occasional exception does not make the rule.
biologically people are at their hottest from 16 to 24 so it's normal for dudes to think that age range is hotter. but it's not like once you get to 25 your not hot anymore, but you attractiveness does start to go down though biologically (slowly though until about 35 where it really starts to drop). most guys though dont try to exclusively date that range and dont think that a woman thats like 26 is expired though. the only people i've ever met who though like oh if a girl is past 20 she's expired where people who'd deadass fuck 14yos if it were legal lol
This isn't a new phenomenon taking place. The chances of a woman starting a family after 30 is about 50% and it drops even more drastically shortly after that. Women have a biological window in which they can have kids. If I were single and 30 years old, I'd likely choose a younger woman. If I chose a woman who's 22, that would give me a chance to date her, become comfortable, build a relationship, and then have kids. That window is more appealing. Men tend to value youth when it comes to terms with beauty as well. It's a harsh reality.
It's cuz beauty standards today are extremely pedophilic and it changes mens preferences to be that way as well. It's really disgusting and needs to be stopped. Men now a days will find pre teen girls more attractive then grown women with mature features that they are actually suppose to be attracted to
@Uruss they are not the best looking at that age. Most women don't hit their prime till 30s. 18 year olds are still teen girls like literally teens that are still developing into adults 🙄
And I ain't no grandpa fucker so nah I don't like older men. Also no haven't fucked a few dudes. Even for the women that do it shouldn't matter cuz we aren't objects like a car
@Uruss women aren't done with puberty at that age. It's dangerous for us to have teen pregnancies because of that reason. And everyone has different opinions about beauty but saying that girls in their teens are at their prime is purely pedophilic
@Uruss age and body count just don't go together. A 18 year old could have a body count of 100 and a 30 year old could have a body count of 0. It just depends on the woman not her age
@Uruss there are a few on this site lol but it's not even about being a virgin like there are a lot of women with very low body counts. I'm 26 and only have been with one guy
@Apple1996 I have male co-workers my age and older who are into teens and it's disgusting. I just can't see the appeal in a much younger female like that
To simply put, men are ‘becoming’ more youth obsessed because traditions have allowed them to have pedo mentalities.
And soo much goes into that. Their excuses would be “she isn’t a teen but an adult” yet he’s 50 with a 25 year old girlfriend/wife or 35 with a 23 year old. It’s not normal and the age range just isn’t there. He may not be the actual definition of a pedo but he definitely has the mentality of one which by my standard, makes him one
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Which articles are you reading? I don't think this is accurate at all. Most couples I know in real life are around the same age, or the guy is 3-6 older than the girl. According to statistics from Wikipedia, large age gaps (where is the guy is more than 6-10 years older than a girl are quite rare). I wouldn't take what the sexist and misogynistic guys of the site take seriously.
I think men want a woman who is young with no experience or little experience so they can take advantage of them. The younger women won't know any better and women who have experience will be on their shit. Thats what I hear when a guy says he wants a 19 or 20 year old.
I've always been an "old soul" and people think I'm a lot older than I am, so I can actually relate to older women.
Girls in their early 20s, and I do mean girls, are really hard for me to relate to. We're just on different wave lengths and I feel like I'm dating a kid. Plus they kind of suck in bed, honestly.
Since you’re very young yourself and don’t know what you’re talking about...
Men used to marry 14 year old girls. And younger. The average age of marriage for a woman has been getting older, and older, over the past several decades.
Newsflash. Men like to look at and fuck younger women. They have always wanted to fuck younger women. This is nothing new. It’s just part of being a dude. If anything society and men have been marrying and having children LATER than they have historically.
But I know, what you’re really talking about is hook up culture and sleeping around. Not relationships, marriage, and family.
Hooking up and sleeping around isn’t the norm. And people who do it, and seek it out, want to fuck young, hot women with firm breasts, a pretty face, and a big ole booty. Ain’t no one looking for age or life experience.
i don't think what you're saying is true at all. I think you've just been brainwashed by the misogynists on GAG to believe that women expire by 25. If you walk out into the real world, nobody would say only girls 18-25 are datable. And the only guys who say that are indecent perverted men. There are plenty of women over 25 or even over 30 who still look sexy as hell.
Becoming? This is nothing new, older men have been marrying younger girls for centuries. If anything marrying someone your age became more normal now than it was before.
The only thing I see different is that girls want older men. The sex symbols for girls are always men in their late 30s and 40s.
