Why are men delusional enough to claim that they hit their prime at 35-45?

[Haha456]

thats pretty much the age where they start losing hair, getting fat, wrinkles, dull skin start settling in. By mid to late 40s,, a lot of guys already have bad knees that don't work. Thats also the age where their dicks starts malfunctioning or starts going downhill.

I personally don't find guys like this to be attractive at all. I'm most attracted to men who are young , muscular strong and fast and able to defend / protect me when I need it. Not some weakening old man with a bad knee who could barely run.

[Lliam]

It sounds like you are talking about 55-65 year olds.
If a guy is going to lose hair, it's going to start before age 35.
It's easier for guys to preserve their bodies than it is for women. Guys can stay lean and fit well past age 45. Most of the sexy movie stars are over 35.
By age 35, guys are starting to gain sophistication and competence through experience.

My most sexually vital years were 35-40. One of my girlfriends was beautiful, hypersexual and orgasmic. We lived together for over a year when I was 37 and she was 30. Even though we both worked full time, we had sex at least two or three times a day, and often for hours at a time, non stop. She made me feel like a sexual god.

[Haha456]

does it really matter if you gain sophistication if your dick starts to malfunction and you start gaining weight and losing your hair?

the myth that older guys are good in bed is false. because 40 is typically when the dick begins to malfunction.

[Lliam]

I don't know where you heard that. Sounds like nonsense. It sure wasn't the case with me.
Brad Pitt is 59. Do you think his dick is malfunctioning?

[Haha456]

brad pitt is a celebrity. he has status and wealth. what kind of status and wealth do you have? NONE.

you're not brad pitt. All you have is grandpa looks and a dick that does not work.

its crazy how desperate old men like to delude themselves.

[Lliam]

My point was, he looks good and I'll bet his cock works just fine, dumb ass. You sound like teen ager. I remember when I though anyone over 30 was old and decrepit.

[Haha456]

@Lliam

I don't go to elderly homes to find dates.

[Lliam]

So you think 45 is elderly? ROFL

[Haha456]

yea... I'm 27. When your knee starts to see signs of not working, losing hair, getting wrinkly, dick starts to not work, muscles start to weaken, can't run like you used to. I don't know how you can still say your body is young.

[Haha456]

vision loss too.

[Lliam]

If that happens to a guy before age 45, he either has bad genes or an unhealthy lifestyle.

[Haha456]

a healthy lifestyle does not determine aging. I have seen healthy 45 yr old men with bad knees. But generally speaking, your body usually starts to see first signs of malfunction at this age whether sexually or physically, visually or even mentally.

[Lliam]

Alright. Tell me about it when you are over 35.

Studies indicate that women are at their sexual peak between ages 27 and 45. Who's fucking them when they are 35-45, frat boys?

[Haha456]

I'm actually 27. I wouldn't be attracted to 40 yr old men even if I were 40.
Older people have to date other older people because younger people simply don't want them. Nothing but the truth.

[Lliam]

Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Some guys go after young women, and some women prefer younger guys. No problem.

But women start showing their age, too, and I wonder if you'll still be fuckable when YOU'RE 40.

[Haha456]

@Lliam

Evolutionarily vast majority of humans find young attractive because young people tend to produce healthier offspring. We are designed by nature to mate with young rather than old

And this explains why vast majority of young women end up marrying young men. Because we simply aren't attracted to old guys.

[Lliam]

Absolutely true.

Although, quite a few young women are attracted to older men. And there are young guys who are attracted to older women.

[Haha456]

@Lliam

There is a difference between liking an "older man" versus liking "old men".

Most of us like "older men" by a few years, not someone as old as our fathers or grandfathers.
I'm 27, I'm looking for guys 28-35 as my ideal age for a husband. I'm not looking for a 45 or 59 yr old.

[Haha456]

@Lliam

Just because I am attracted to a man 5 years older than me, it doesn't also mean I find old fat uncles or my grandfather attractive.

Sure, there are weirdos who are attracted to grandfathers or old fat men, but these are the MINORITY, not the majority.

[Lliam]

You're 31 and you say that you are attracted to a man 5 years older. That would make him 36.
But you make the laughable assertion that people over 35 are fat, broken down grandfathers who can't get it up anymore.

You don't live in reality. There's a glitch in your brain. By 31, you should have more sense.

[Haha456]

@Lliam

I'm 27, not 31.

I never said 35 yr old men hit the wall. Men start showing first signs of aging at 35. but they officially hit the wall by 40

Men get fat as they get older, deal with it.

[Massageman]

Let's see. I'm over 70. I may not function as often, but I DO function!

[Haha456]

@Massageman

its more like you want to fuck but you can't fuck.

[Massageman]

It's appreciated so much more that way! :- )

[loveslongnails]

If you were so proud of your looks, you'd have a full body pic in your profile that was ACTUALLY you. LOL I'm 37, can outrun you, out "fuck" you, and my dick works just fine - so long as the woman I'm with is attractive AND smart... like AmandaYVR for instance :)

[Haha456]

@loveslongnails

nobody cares how much you can outrun me if you look like shit.

[loveslongnails]

You just assume anybody over 40 is going to look like shit and his dick won't work. That's why you're a dolt.

[Haha456]

@loveslongnails

because you're not a woman, you dont know what most of us are attracted to.

[Haha456]

@loveslongnails

unless you're gay , you really no right to tell me what is attractive in men

[loveslongnails]

Im not telling you anything to be attracted to. All of this is simply your opinion, and nothing more, and it's specious. After seeing how you handle yourself, I doubt that ANYONE cares who or what you're attracted to, and what you have to say about it anymore.

[Haha456]

@loveslongnails

its not just my opinion. Research data shows that vast majority of young women don't end up marrying men 10-20 years older than them. Just the honest truth.

[loveslongnails]

Which has absolutely NOTHING to do with what you're prattling on about. I mean, now you're just being really fucking stupid.

[Haha456]

@loveslongnails

you sound really pissed.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

35-45 is prime years? 😂 People just don't desire to feel old and washed up so they convince themselves of such BS.

Prime years is early to mid 20's, not mid 30's especially not 40's.

[Haha456]

first decent honest guy on here.

[moondazed]

I beg to differ. The most handsome guy that I've ever seen is actually in this age group.. He looks way younger than his age, has no wrinkles, beautiful blue eyes and blond hair

He's from the site, but I will never say his name

[Haha456]

yea... he looks younger than his age. Pretty much already proves that younger men are more attractive.

[moondazed]

My point is you can't generalize. Each individual is different. It has to do with genetics and how well someone takes care of themselves

[Haha456]

yea.. but you just admitted younger men look better than older men. if old was sexy, you wouldn't have to look younger.

[Truthatanycost]

The question is whether he has other qualities that were developed due to his age that make him more attractive that he might not have developed if he was younger...

[Haha456]

@Truthatanycost

I dont think it matters if he has other qualities that make him attractive if his dick doesn't work and nobody wants to look at him.

why do you think vast majority of young women marry young men? because we don't find old men attractive.

[Anonymous]

Most men have trouble getting an erection by the time they are 35.

[SnowedIn]

Huh? What men are you hanging out with?

[Haha456]

Most guys dicks start malfunctioning by 40. I slept with many guys. Thats how I know

[BLP11520]

Mid forties for me 47 for sure

[BLP11520]

You are right... mid forties for sure. In your 30's you can have sex multiple times a day.

[Haha456]

@BLP11520

I slept with lots of guys. Some guys dicks start malfunctioning at 35. But most at 40

[BLP11520]

I guess I was lucky to have decent erections a bit longer than most. Always been healthy

[Haha456]

@BLP11520

has nothing to do with healthiness. It has all to do with genes.

[BLP11520]

I guess my Scandinavian blood is good then LOL

[AmandaYVR]

You're nasty and superficial and just plain wrong.

And I don't believe you're 31. You're much younger.

[Haha456]

humans are superficial regardless if you like it or not.

[AmandaYVR]

You don't get to hide behind putting everyone into the same pile.
These are your thoughts. You.

[Haha456]

who are you gonna date a 69 yr old man or a 39 yr old man?

thats right... so shut the fuck up

[AmandaYVR]

You're trying to do it again.
You are you.
I am me.
We are not the same. Not even close.

[Haha456]

yea sure... im sure everyone believes you'd rather date a 69 yr old than a 39 yr old.

[Lliam]

You're right, Amanda, she sounds incredibly immature for a 31 year old. I'll bet she's much younger.
I mean, I remember when I thought 30 was old. Then I turned 30 and realized that it was the best time of my life. The best sex I ever had was between 35 and 40.

[Haha456]

@Lliam

your best sex wasn't after 40 cuz thats when things start malfunctioning down there.

[OlderAndWiser]

Perhaps you should ask them how they define "prme."

[Haha456]

prime means the time in life where men attract the most women.

[OlderAndWiser]

Why do you think that statement is not true?

[Haha456]

which statement?

[OlderAndWiser]

If you are seriously suggesting that guys 35-45 are "losing hair, getting fat, wrinkles, dull skin, bad knees that don't work , , , dicks starts malfunctioning.," then I seriously suggest that your opinions are really out of touch with reality OR you are simply trolling.

[Haha456]

because that is true. just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean its not true.

[OlderAndWiser]

And you being convinced that YOU are right doesn't mean that you are actually right. I think it just means that you are a troll.

[Haha456]

unless you're gay, you have no right to tell me what im attracted to. I am a woman so I know what women are attracted to.

[OlderAndWiser]

I never made any statement about to what you are attracted. I spoke about women in general. And, no, you are not authorized to speak for all women. Many women are attracted to men age 35-45. And I don't care if you insist it is not true, because you don't speak for all women.

[Haha456]

35 is not 45. its pretty obvious you're lying to yourself to make yourself feel better about aging. a 35 yr old is wayy hotter than a 45 yr old man

[Haha456]

I speak for vast majority of women. 40 is when guys hit the wall.

[OlderAndWiser]

You have a written document from most women authorizing you to speak on their behalf?

[Haha456]

its not me to says. its marriage data that says. marriage data shows that vast majority of young women marry men less than 10 years older than them. there is no evidence that women are attracted to significantly older men.

[Haha456]

I do speak for vast majority of all young women. My tastes and preferences matches the vast majority of them.

[Lionman95]

Though I don´t like all this talk about "prime" in terms of age the reason are other components than sex. A young guy rarely feels ready to be in a relationship nor has he the financial ability or maturity to start a family.
Also young guys are more interested in playing around and avoiding responsibility than settling down.
It´s also always not true that a 45 year old guy is physical weak or old since at least in many western countries the life expectancy for a guy is 77 or similar.
Guys can start lose her in some cases already in their 20s and getting fat is neither a sign of aging. I think it depends on a guy at age he gets unattractive.

[Haha456]

there are plenty of young guys in their 30s who are good looking , mature, and financially stable. you really don't need to be an old aging man to have those things.

[Lionman95]

So what´s the problem then? Since a guy that´s 35 is still a young guy in his 30s and could still be good looking. But that is probably delusional to you.

[Haha456]

some men still look good at 35. but not all. 35 is when most men start showing the first signs of aging. 40 is when he officially hit the wall.

[HighValue]

They only have "malfunctions" if they used drugs. You must be dating druggies, which is not surprising with your attitude. I am guessing that you are upset that you are past 30 and men of those ages have no interest in someone like you. The only ones that do are the type to use someone for sex. You missed your opportunity. you should have made better decisions in life.

I am 42 and MUCH stronger than all of the other younger men that I work with. The second and third place best shape guys are both in their 50s where I work.

[HighValue]

Plus I have been hit on (get interest) from women in their 20s often, and even one 19 year old two years ago. So you are objectively wrong.

[Haha456]

science has already proven a man's dick slowly stops working as he gets older. sperm quality decreases too. studies actually show that children born to older fathers tend to have higher rates of mental illnesses.

[Anonymous]

1. Because women care about money and social status the most with men and this age is when men start to gain enough money to be desirable to most younger women.

2. Men tend to mentally mature a little later than women, although both are immature in their early 20s, so usually men tend to "have their stuff together" by their early to mid 30s.

3. Because some women don't want men who aren't ready to settle down yet (usually women in their mid 20s) and men in their 30s make for better relationship/long-term material.

4. Most women aren't as delusional as you to still think they can get "young, muscular, strong" at their expiration date of 30-something. If men start to break down by their 40s, women start to break down by their early 30s!

5. Men are still desirable past 30, where most women are not (because men are valued for their success and women are valued for their looks & beauty.)

[Haha456]

men are not desirable past 40. especially when vast majority of men never hit any wealth or status throughout their lifetimes. what do you have to offer other than being fat, wrinkly saggy with a dick that does not work.

the dreams that desperate old men like to delude themselves with.

[Opinion Owner]

Fortunately, what you believe and what is reality, is irrelevant. So you can believe whatever you want.

[Haha456]

why dont you think vast majority of young women marry significantly older men? cuz we're simply not attracted to them.

[Anonymous]

They do if they look after themselves. But this is said primarily because men are valued more in society for what they can provide others / family Vs how they look, and women are valued more for how they look Vs what they provide overall (unless it's about children).

You mentioned hair loss, fat, wrinkles, dull skin and bad knees and malfunctioning dicks. if you look after yourself you won't get any of those things. But even if a man did have some of those things... if he also had assets, his own business, was financially free, had status and influence he could leverage all of those things and be with a woman considered out of his league. Or still have options a woman in the same position would not have.

Now personally I have none of those issues, but I have also discovered how to reverse gray hair, reverse thinning hair and reverse hair loss, I have zero wrinkles, and strength train every 2 days and have lean muscle mass.

[Haha456]

yea... just how many men are wealthy by the time the hit 45? very few.

[Opinion Owner]

It's not just about wealth. It's about confidence, maturity, stability and earning potential. If a woman is looking to have a family she will look at those things before how hot he looks. Average earning by age increases as well. But it's also the fact that a man generally has more life experience that shows in confidence and leadership qualities as well. This it's more about the fact a man is likely to be wealthier by age 45, than whether he's wealthy by age 45.

[Haha456]

vast majority of families in america live paycheck to paycheck. Most men can't even afford stay home wives. what are you talking about every man hits their financial peak by 35-45 ? its the opposite.

[Haha456]

you're just dreaming cuz thats the only way old desperate men can maintain their sanity as they lose their appeal.

[Opinion Owner]

Not at all. I don't want children, prefer to be single and it makes zero difference what women want. I didn't say every man hits their financial peak at 35-45, I said in general they earn more as they age. You said something about having your own house etc etc. But if your priority was to have a family from the start, you may have prioritized that over a career so those things would have been more of a consideration in a partner. Most of the women I know that had children worked part time until marriage and their husbands were the ones that did the longer hours.

Your comment about losing appeal as one ages is more of a female concern, than a man's. You can see this in what gender seeks most attention on social media. Men do too but much much less.

[Haha456]

Take at marriage statistics, vast majority of young women marry men less than 10 years older than them. There is no evidence 45 yr old men are marrying 25 yr old women. why? because vast majority of you are broke and unattractive. I'm 27 and I'm not attracted to 40 yr olds myself.

[Haha456]

Nobody cares if you have a house and a car. I have my own house and car. I don't need yours. Typically the old men who can score wives 20 years younger are the millionaires.

[Opinion Owner]

The stats show that most guys marry at 35 and women at 33. It also says the national marital age has steadily increased over the last decade. They do talk about COVID having an impact in delaying wedding plans in 2021 though.

Ultimately losing attraction with age is a females worst nightmare, not a mans. They will deal with that much better because the majority of their power throughout their entire life was not primarily through their looks. Having said that. Every single woman I know that is married has an average looking husband that has a better career than they do. And although they are similar ages, the woman always looks better than the man. I think I've only seen one where that was not the case.

[Haha456]

Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conroy-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:

Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.

www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage

[Haha456]

[Ultimately losing attraction with age is a females worst nightmare, not a mans. They will deal with that much better because the majority of their power throughout their entire life was not primarily through their looks. Having said that. Every single woman I know that is married has an average looking husband that has a better career than they do. And although they are similar ages, the woman always looks better than the man. I think I've only seen one where that was not the case.]

actually most wives look similar in age to the husband. why? because they married when they were young. And young women tend to marry men around their own age, not 12-20 years older.

When I'm looking for a husband , I'm really not looking for someone more than 10 years older than me. Not attracted to old men.

[Haha456]

Vast majority of men don't gain any power throughout their lives. Vast majority of families in america live paycheck to paycheck. Most men can't even afford housewives.

You're just saying that cuz it appeases your fear of losing your appeal as you age.

[Opinion Owner]

You mention this fear of losing my appeal as I age and you've mentioned that several times now. This leads to me think it is your personal fear you're putting onto others.

You also mention 'desperate men using delusion to claim sanity as they age' Again, this is not my personal experience. I'm sure it is for some. Thus perhaps you should ask yourself why you keep on trying to project that onto others too.

[Haha456]

I think you also have a personal fear of aging. Because you can't accept the fact that Im simply not attracted to 40 yr old men.

why can't you accept that? because you are too scared to.

[Haha456]

My being honest about my own dating preferences doesn't make me "scared". It just makes me honest.

[Opinion Owner]

Such a concern about attraction may make sense for someone who was trying to find a partner or get married. I'm not, you are...

[Haha456]

men are not desirable past 40. especially when vast majority of men never hit any wealth or status throughout their lifetimes. what do you have to offer other than being fat, wrinkly saggy with a dick that does not work.

the dreams that desperate old men like to delude themselves with.

[loveslongnails]

Does anybody else find it humorous when you ask "why is someone delusional?" LOL Because your mind will play any tune you tell it to, and some men like telling themselves those things. WHY do the vast majority of women maintain they're not the jealous or envious type and it doesn't bother them to see "their men" paying attention to other women, or touching them? Why? Because they're delusional !! :)

[Haha456]

you don't think men can get jealous of each other? it happens more than you think.

[loveslongnails]

That's not the point at all. LOL The point is that women are delusional for maintaining, as they very often do, that "I'm not the jealous type". Delusional, like men who think they've hit their prime at 35-45, sexually speaking.

[Haha456]

@loveslongnails

so what? I can also say that women hit their prime at 35-45. Doesn't necessarily mean its true.

[Haha456]

@loveslongnails

35 is when you show first signs of aging. 40 is when men officially hit the wall.

[loveslongnails]

Except that science has shown that it IS true lol

[Haha456]

older men tend to have subpar sperm which is why women tend to be sexually attracted to young men the most.

[loveslongnails]

There are other questions on here about "prime". You're in your prime for different things at different ages. As for older women wanting younger men, it's not necessarily because they want their babies!

[Haha456]

I will always be more attracted to a man in his 30s than 40s regardless of whatever age I am.

[loveslongnails]

And as such, you should speak for ALL women, right? Hmmm... so when a man says " I will always be more attracted to a woman in her 20's, he's a creep if he's in his 40's or 50's. If he says the same thing about a woman in her 30's, he's a creep if he's in his 50's or 60's, and so on. Big "duh" on that one.

[Haha456]

@loveslongnails

I think the data shows that vast majority of young women end up marrying men around their ages. I don't know why you're in denial about that.

[loveslongnails]

Wth are you talking about? LOL I'm not denying marriage stats. I'm far more into stats than you are! The average age gap in the USA is 2.0 to 2.8 years. What the heck does THAT have to do with your statement " I will always be more attracted to a man in his 30s than 40s regardless of whatever age I am." Nothing.

[Anonymous]

Shit I started loosing my hair in high school. Ruined my back by 24 in a work injury. Have had knee issues since I was a teen due to a bad care accident I was in. Dick still works though… 😂🤣. I’ve always been told 30’s is the prime age and definitely wondered who came up with that shit. 😂

[Haha456]

A man is most attractive in late 20s to early 30s. But some men can age faster or slower than others. I've seen some men start losing hair at 30. Others still look 30 when they are 40 years old.

[lightbulb27]

I think it depends, I think I was my best in those ages, had all my hair I started with, in great shape, more emotionally mature and financially good. It really depends upon the individual.

In my 20's, I really was not good, but other guys were.

[Haha456]

I think 30s is when a guy is a mix of emotionally mature, still good looking, and financially stable. You really don't need to be an aging old man to have all those things.

[lightbulb27]

Agree. and I matured a lot more in 40/50's, some are late bloomers.
There is no doubt though of the changes starting around 40.

[Haha456]

I want a guy who is mature but not too mature to the point where I can't relate to them. I don't wanna date someone as mature as my father. I'm 27

[lightbulb27]

that makes sense. problem is guys, a lot of them, are not mature, that's why often girls go for older. you'd be surprised how immature people can be in their 40's, in some ways. when you can relate to them, common interests and have things to talk about or explore and it's fun, then it's your call. were 7 years diff between me and wife.

[Haha456]

I like older guys , just by a few years older. Not 15 years older. I'm more mature than the boys my age but I'm no where near as mature as my father.

[Haha456]

exactly, your wife picked a guy 7 years older to marry. She didn't want to marry someone 17 years older. its hard to relate to someone significantly older.

[Haha456]

I'm not attracted to guys in their 40s, mainly lack of physical attraction

[lightbulb27]

Everyone's different and that sounds "normal". my relative married a guy 15yrs old. It lasted as long as many relationships. I find age to be that far apart odd, but it does work in cases, many successes. There's different "minds" out there. That starts to make sense when you start to discover how our emotional minds work. There's a lot of "wounds" influencing our decisions... ultimately, it's emotional conditioning making the decisions.

[Haha456]

vast majority of young women marry young men. because we simply aren't attracted to old men.

[Haha456]

Evolutionarily vast majority of humans find young attractive because young people tend to produce healthier offspring. We are designed by nature to mate with young rather than old

[lightbulb27]

makes sense, but is that true for older men? I know older women, probability of defects goes up. Do defects go up as the man ages? I suspect how we look reflects our status of health, which makes us attractive. some people look "good or good enough" in 40s plus... as they are healthier emotionally and physically ok.
without a doubt young people have more energy to handle kids...

[Haha456]

of course a man's sperm quality deteriorates as he ages. Children born to old fathers tend to have higher rates of mental illnesses and autism. I'm having a baby in a few years and I'm not interested in any man over 40. Not only about birthing problems but also I want someone who would be able to raise my child with me. If you're 50 years old , you won't be able to support your child to go to college. Not to mention the quality of their childhood would also likely suck. you can't do much with your children if you can't physically do things with them.

[lightbulb27]

Lookup Jim Rogers, as example... he had kids in his 50's with 20/30rd old wife, all was fine. Course, he's a billionaire... there's advantages...
You do you, there's nothing wrong with having your boundaries/ parameters.

[Haha456]

I'm not interested in having to see someone I don't want to see on a daily basis just so I don't have to work for the rest of my life. I have great earning potential, I don't need that kinda stuff.

There are things that I care about more than money:

giving my kid a good childhood by having an active father.
waking up and being happy seeing people I actually want to see on a daily basis
watching my kid grow up in good health and help them succeed in life.
marrying someone I can actually grow old with. I'm not gonna be happy being married to a 60 yr old by the time I turn 38.

[lightbulb27]

definitely stick with someone your age, no shame in that. hope you find your fella!

[Haha456]

women who marry for money never end up being happy. the only types who go for that kinda stuff are women without a bright future, no earning potential.

[lightbulb27]

I didn't say only money. They may have different thoughts and paramters. who knows.

[Haha456]

@lightbulb27

Usually no woman would go for a guy that old unless he had money. There are a lot of women out there without education, without earning prospects desperate for a better life.

[lightbulb27]

yes, this gets into how does attraction work and what are the criteria for saying "yes" to next step. Women want security #1 usually and financial security is big part of it. Without that, probably gets nowhere... but depends on individuals and what is motivating them.
Where I think young guys fall down, too often, is they aren't emotionally developed and may not know themselves or women. So the women have more training to do and suffering if they choose unwisely.
It's easy to choose unwisely when the mating chemicals are running. Choosing well resolves lot of that. Guys who are older, been through the hoops... more stable emotionally. That's what I'd heard women say motivates attraction to older guy. Granted, they aren't talking really old. But I did hear that as a justification for one of the women (wife) to go for hugh hefner, that he understood her and was interesting.
we're not delusional... it's reality for some. reminds me of a gal from this site few years back, she generally went for older guys 15-20yrs older. Why... she had "daddy issues". She'd tear up those guys too...

[Haha456]

If money was taken out of the equation, young women will always be more attracted to young men rather than old men.

But often times when a woman doesn't have an education, no career prospects, she doesn't have a choice but to marry for money.

Just because you can buy a wife , it doesn't mean she wants you more than younger men. Its just that she does not have the option to marry the guys she's attracted to due to her lack of prospects in life.

[Haha456]

Old men simply aren't attractive. No amount of money can make up for being unattractive. She may stay with you if you paid her well enough but it doesn't mean she is attracted to you.

[lightbulb27]

On that I disagree with you, but you have a right to your perspective. I don't think you've explored how attraction works.
I agree with you on the majority of women, but not all.
I agree women will get the best prospect they can.

I think you have a better idea to your question, but I don't think you believe yet. Men are not delusional, because they have success at those ages... to some degree, some of them. One reason I did ok is I look much younger than my physical age. There are people (m/f) that look older than their age, and that is a detractor.

Even so... there's plenty of women 30-50 looking for guys and given their prospects reduced, they'll go for guys that age.

[lightbulb27]

I was in as good of shape as I ever was in my 30-45.. I could do more pullups, ride 80-100 miles on a bike. But "prime"... heck no, my body wouldn't take the abuse it took as when I was 25. Things are different. Recovery is longer. But plenty of life remains at that point. Not all guys get fat and ugly, that is cultural to some effect, and very American. We eat garbage in this country...

[Haha456]

@lightbulb27

nobody cares about how you ran a 20 mile marathon at 56, if you're suffering from hair loss, face is wrinkly. Your body is saggy, your knees are bad, your dick doesn't really work.

you're still unattractive.

you can talk about "success" all you want. But I can tell you that over 90% of men never hit any type of real success or wealth ever in their lives.

where is your success and wealth?

[Haha456]

[I was in as good of shape as I ever was in my 30-45.]

No man at your age of 56 is ever attractive regardless of how in shape you are.

[lightbulb27]

you are entitled to your opinion and I'm ok if you are even repulsed by the idea. I would have thought the same even in my <30s. I've enough evidence to say some % of people have a different perspective. It may be perception, as I consistently would be told I look 10-20yrs younger. As well, I don't think you understand how attraction works... maybe you only understand yourself? How many of your girlfriend's agree with you? I've seen girls out here who consistently date guys 10-20yrs older.
I wonder what the root of your question is... like why did you ask it? Maybe your inverted question is, why do some people even consider dating people 10+ years older?

[Haha456]

@lightbulb27

Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conroy-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:

Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.

www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage

[Haha456]

Vast majority of the world's marriage age gap is less than 10 years.

www.pewresearch.org/.../

[Haha456]

there is no research data that indicates women are marrying men significantly older than them.

why? because young women simply aren't attracted to much older men. we don't find you attractive.

[lightbulb27]

10 years older or less makes sense and people can project younger/older, age isn't the only factor. I look younger, some young people look older. I've seen marriages 13, 15 year gaps.
You would agree that "looks" matter... it's marketing. If you think they are younger, they might be considered. I think at 20 things look different than when you are 30/40. maybe the market shrinks and take what one can get. When I was 20, I wouldn't even think about dating a 50+ year old.
We are not delusional... we are right... depending upon whom we are. We have ZERO problem finding mates at those ages, ones who have their stuff together. The ones that don't, have ZERO chance!

[Haha456]

@lightbulb27

over 90% of marriages are less than 10 years apart.

so I don't know what you're talking about.

[lightbulb27]

personal experience. That says 10% are outside that range, I saw quite a few of those. I

[Haha456]

@lightbulb27

its no where close to proof that vast majority of young women are attracted to old men.

[lightbulb27]

I never claimed that and I agree with you. I said some are, if you don't believe me... talk to some of these women, or run a poll on GAG. The one I knew of isn't here anymore.

[Haha456]

Vast majority of young women don't marry old men because we aren't attracted to them. The only "old men" who end up with young women tend to be the few very rare men who are still attractive at an older age, or the old men with money to could afford to buy a poor wife.

[ArrowheadSW]

I think it just depends on the person. I was fortunate to be able to keep in good shape during that part of my life and those really were some good years for me.

[Haha456]

very few guys your age are attractive. sorry but just have to be honest

[Anonymous]

You are basing mens value on looks, this is only true in a small percentage.

Most women do not hold the physical value of men as the top of the selection process. It helps but women care more for money, status, success, and material goods.

[Haha456]

I think you're just bluffing because vast majority of men never gain that type of wealth ever in their lives.

[Opinion Owner]

You are right… very few men reach that wealth but that is why women only find 1% of men attractive.
There is a website called the female delusion calculator which shows women how delusional their expectations are.

[Haha456]

men are not desirable past 40. especially when vast majority of men never hit any wealth or status throughout their lifetimes. what do you have to offer other than being fat, wrinkly saggy with a dick that does not work.

the dreams that desperate old men like to delude themselves with.

[Opinion Owner]

Hahah hit dogs holler

[Haha456]

why would I date an old limp dick that can't fuck? lets be honest

[Opinion Owner]

No one said you had to.
Most older men with erectile issue are in their 50+ years and most of that is because they are forced to be with old expired worn out vaginas.
You put them with a 20 year old and they would not have issues.

[JDavid25]

Men hitting their prime by 35-45 is not talking about physical as that's usually in the late 20s/early 30s.. It's talking about stability, and the ability to provide.. Men's desirability goes up because we begin to really find ourselves in our late 20s early 30s.. For men beauty is not what makes us most desirable.. It's the security we can provide..

[Haha456]

yea... just how many men are wealthy by the time the hit 45? very few.

[JDavid25]

Well, I wasn't talking about wealth.. Just having a nice career where he can provide for himself and others.. We don't have to go to that extreme.. LOL..

[Haha456]

Nobody cares about having a nice career. Gold diggers want a man who can pay for the luxurious lifestyle she wants along with a nanny and all the finer things in life.

[Haha456]

you clearly never go out much

[Haha456]

its nothing but just a dream that desperate men like to delude themselves with.

[JDavid25]

Okay when did this become a conversation about gold diggers.. I was simply explaining why people say men hit their prime at that age.. Like you mentioned most men are nice even hitting $100k a year.. Let alone being wealthy.. So, most can't afford gold diggers.. But plenty can help to provide a stable life to a willing and loving woman by 35..

[JDavid25]

Man, for a woman who I would assume calls herself young and hot, you sure do seem to have a bitter streak towards men.. LOL..

[Haha456]

Men don't hit their prime at 45. A house and a car isn't gonna impress anyone nowadays. There are plenty of young professionals in their 30s making 100k a year. You really don't need to be 45 to make that kinda money.

[Haha456]

vast majority of young women tend to marry young men.

[Haha456]

I'm just being honest about my preferences when it comes to dating. I'm not attracted to old ugly men. I can buy a house and car myself. I don't need a man to give me that.

[JDavid25]

Okay, you are pretty young, so I would expect you to want a young man.. Lmao.. A 45 year old man is not old.. That's middle aged.. Haha.. You sound like you are a spring chicken.. You're either 30 or almost 30, so while you are still young, it's not seen as the apitome of youth.. Haha.. But, well when a man can't provide something for a woman she doesn't respect him.. Lol..

[JDavid25]

Epitome**..

[Haha456]

I'm 27. And no, I'm not attracted to old aging men. I like my guys tall, young, muscular strong and fast. Not some old fat , aging man with hair loss and a bad knee. And the only old guys who can get young women are rich men, not just some random dude with a house and a car. I think desperate men like you delude yourself way too much

[JDavid25]

So yeah almost 30.. So you are not a spring chicken.. 😂.. And that's just fine.. You are young, and I assume fairly attractive, so there's nothing wrong with that.. And 35-45 is not that age exactly where all the age related stuff happens.. There are plenty of men who still look relatively young at 45.. 😂.. And yes I agree those are the only type of older guys that can get younger women.. Unless the older guy has great genetics, took great care of himself, and has a moderate living.. That guy can definitely get younger women.. We're around the same age.. 😂😂.. I'm young, muscular, strong, fast, and kinda tall.. So, I'm actually what you would describe as a prime male..

[Haha456]

I'm most attracted to men in their late 20s to early 30s. 35 is when most men start going downhill. 40 is when they officially hit the wall. I can buy my own house and my own car, I dont need yours.

[Haha456]

I'm into guys who can still fuck. Not some old man with a malfunctioning dick. I've slept around with a wide range of guys. I can tell you that limp old man dick was my least favorite by far.

[JDavid25]

Yeah, that makes sense because that's your age.. LOL.. Geez.. And, yeah physically that's when guys go downhill but mentally when we start to go uphill.. But men don't have a wall.. We can still have kids well into our years.. LOL.. And yeah sure.. But most women like a man with the means to provide.. And on average a guy that's 35 can give that.. And 35-45 is not a limp dick old man.. You're thinking 55 and up.. Plus there's viagara and Cialis..

[Haha456]

Mentally guys go downhill too. As you get older, you start losing your memory. You can't think as quickly.

I've slept with a lotta guys. Most guys dicks start malfunctioning by 40. It only gets worse into 50s then it entirely stops at 60s. 60s is when you want to fuck but you just cannot fuck at all.

[JDavid25]

No you don't.. 😂😂.. Not at 35-45.. Your body starts to fall short, but your mind is still intact.. You don't start having those problems until well into your 60s..

And yes we know you've been a meat stuffing, or a cum dumpster. 😂😂.. No need to repeat yourself.. And your experience anecdotal, as you haven’t been with nearly enough guys to say that definitely.. It doesn't matter though, because a lot of men function differently and take care of themselves differently.. Plus, like I said, they viagara and cialis... Works more than fine..

[Haha456]

I slept with a ton of guys. Some guys dicks starts to see first signs of malfunction as early as 35. But for most guys, its 40. 40 is the age where everything goes downhill. It gets even worse at 45 then at 50. 60 is when a guy still wants to fuck but he can't.

[Haha456]

60 yr old guy probably last less than 3 minutes

[JDavid25]

How many times are you gonna say that? We get it, you like being a hoe, or at least wanna brag about it.. And it's because men these days don't have as much testosterone as in the past.. Plus all the porn usage that goes on.. It's definitely not age.. Also you are basing this mostly all on sex.. Prime has nothing to do with just sex.. It's a lot of other things.. You'll understand when you get that age, which is not too far off.. 😂.. I don't know why you act you are so young and far off..

[Haha456]

why would I date a guy who can't fuck? lets be honest.

[JDavid25]

Not saying you should but as you a grown woman knows that's not all there is to it.. Plus plenty of older men can f**k.. Lol..

[Haha456]

would you date a girl who can't fuck? you wouldn't.

[Haha456]

I like nice, strong, powerful dick. Not some limp weak dick that doesn't work after 3 minutes.

[JDavid25]

Yeah, but that's not all I want in a girl.. Most women can have sex.. LOL.. Same with most men.. 35-45 isn't the age.. That's not even old.. 35 is still relatively young, and 45 is middle aged.. LOL.. People just take bad care of themselves..

[Haha456]

@JDavid25

Men hit the wall by 40. Unless you have a get rich quick scheme , you're not gonna attract young women like you used to.

[JDavid25]

Not really.. Men really don't have a wall.. Per say.. The Wall is for women because your looks are a blessing and as you get older can be a curse.. Also, there's plenty of men (and women) who still look great at 40 even better than they did in their 20s.. And plenty who's dick don't go limb.. Obviously you liked some 40 year old since you keep bragging about how much you've been with..

[Haha456]

I've only been with 3 40 yr old guys and it was all paid work.

[Haha456]

why do you think vast majority of women marry young men? because they're simply not attracted to old men.

[Haha456]

why do you think vast majority of young*** women marry young men? because they're simply not attracted to old men.

[JDavid25]

Geez, all this talk about being with all these guys, and you've only been with 3 40 year olds.. LOL.. And then there was a time limit too.. And well it's natural.. But why do you think older women are not vying to get with younger men.. Because older men have something younger men don't.. Most older women don't like older men, and prefer men their age.. So it's only natural.. People in general prefer other people around their age..

[Haha456]

Old men paid me to do sexual favors for them, not because I was attracted to them.
30 yr old men is not 40 yr old men. 30 yr old men is wayy more attractive and better sexually than 40 yr olds.
Older women are forced to date older men because younger men don't want them.
Even if I were 40, I wouldn't be attracted to 45-50 yr old men.

[JDavid25]

Older men paid you to do sexual favors.. 40 us not an old man.. It's middle aged.. Can't even get a senior citizen discount at 45 let alone 40.. 😂. But my point still stands.. It was only 3 and for not a long time I presume.. And that makes sense since you are almost 30.. LOL.. And 30 is still pretty young.. And well I as a 29 year old, would definitely date a sexy older woman.. There are a lot out there.. 😋.. A lot complain that many older guys go for younger women.. They want older men to go for them.. And well of course.. You'll turn into a woman who is a cougar.. Still attracted to young men and draining them.. A lot of "sex workers" actually prefer older men and not younger.. Surprisingly..

[Haha456]

the only type of men who need "sex workers" tend to be undesirable, unattractive old men. Never are they attractive, tall, handsome young men. It also explains why no woman wants to do this type of work. Its hard having sex with someone you're not attracted to.

[Haha456]

the only types of guys who use "sex workers" are the ones who aren't hot enough to get laid.

[JDavid25]

I wouldn't say those are the only type of men.. A lot of "sex workers" sometimes prefer older clients from what I have seen.. And apparently it's not that hard for them since they are getting money out of it.. LOL..

[Haha456]

@jdavid25

sex workers want young, handsome , hot men with nice bodies as their clients. Not some aging, old fat grandpa who needs to hire for sex cuz no woman wants to fuck him.

[Haha456]

@jdavid25

older clients don't pay more. sex workers charge both young and old the same prices. they dont offer discounts just because a client has less money

[JDavid25]

I don't think it matters what they want in the end.. 😂😂.. But no, not because they pay more, but they are generally more pleasant.. I guess if you are talking about the lower costing "sex workers".. Hey technically you were/are a sex worker, so I guess you would know..

[Haha456]

Nobody is attracted to old men. Even sex workers don't want to fuck them.

[JDavid25]

Some women are.. For the money, or maybe for the wisdom... Or maybe cause they have daddy issues.. LOL..

[chubbycrow]

I know a majority of heavy mama fighters, professional bodybuilders, and such hit their prime later on.

A lot of younger guys are very skinny until their mid 20's relative to how muscular they could be.

[Haha456]

mma fighters prime is 20-30s. By the time the hit 40, most are retired or borderline retiring.

[goaded]

I'd say 5 years earlier, but it's not that far off. You've got maturity, respect, probably the best job you'll ever have, but you're not old yet. (Spoken from the other side.)

[goaded]

Oh, and things don't stop working until a decade later than you're saying.

[Haha456]

I slept with lotta guys. Dicks usually start malfunctioning by 40

[Haha456]

if you want me to be honest, having sex with an old limp dick was one of the worst sexual experiences I ever had in my life. Better to have no sex than to have bad sex

[goaded]

What makes you so sure it's not you?

[Haha456]

its just the way you project your feelings of inadequacy on me.

[exitseven]

If a guy takes care of himself he could be in really good shape at 50. Probably better than guys half his age. I wonder how you will fare in 2 or 3 years?

[Haha456]

vast majority of men look like crap by 50. I don't know what you're talking about.

[exitseven]

Evidently you have never seen me and some of my friends.

[Haha456]

very few men look good by your age. sorry. Just have to be honest.

[Haha456]

Most guys your age are fat.

[exitseven]

yes, most but not all.

[Haha456]

even if its not fat, its losing hair, wrinkles.

[exitseven]

I suspect that you don't look like ypu are 20 years old either.

[Haha456]

I don't think I will ever be attracted to 40 yr old men. Even if I were 40.

[exitseven]

Don;t you think thay having somebody to grow old with will be nice?

[Haha456]

Even older people don't want to date other older people. The only time when older folks date other older folks is when they can't get younger folks.

[exitseven]

I don't think that is true. I might want somebody a little younger , maybe 5 years but to date a 20 year old at my age would be cringe.

[Haha456]

there was one time i almost fell in love with a very attractive 46 yr old single dad. I was only 24 at that time. He liked me too but I rejected him because I knew I couldn't spend the rest of my life with him. Not only did I not like the fact that he had children. I knew I wouldn't stay with him by the time I turn 38 and he turns 60. There is no real future being married to a senior citizen while I'm still so young.

[exitseven]

I can see your point but I know guys that are in their 50s that can put guys half their age to shame. People really can make their own life expectancies.

[Haha456]

yea.. but thats very very few 50 yr olds who can do that. I'm not interested in marrying someone that I might divorce in 20 years. I don't want to start looking for a new husband at 45. Dying alone for 20-30 years at the end of my life doesn't sound like a pleasant deal either.

[exitseven]

so if you do not find anybody soon you will just stay alone for thje resto of your life because you might not fins a young guy that wants to marry a n older woman?

[Haha456]

I'd rather stay single and wait for the right man to come along than to marry someone just to divorce them 20 years later.

Large age gaps tend to have less marital satisfaction and higher rates of divorce

[lightbulb27]

That sounds true, although some are successful. www.marriage.com/.../

What I hear you saying is "I don't want to be divorced or be alone when Im older", or maybe tending an old person. Who does, but is there a strong emotional driver for that thinking... for that would be formed in childhood.

[Haha456]

@lightbulb27

A five-year age gap statistically means you're 18% more likely to divorce (versus just 3% with a 1-year age difference), and that rate rises to 39% for a 10-year age difference and 95% for a 20-year age gap.

www.marketwatch.com/.../the-bigger-the-age-gap-the-shorter-the-marriage-2014-11-11

"Over time, the people who are married to a much older or younger spouse tend to have larger declines in marital satisfaction over time compared to those who are married to spouses who are similar in age," said McKinnish, who is also a research associate at the Institute of Labor Economics (IZA) in Germany.

phys.org/.../...usal-age-gap-affects-marriage.html

[SnowedIn]

Not sure who you're hanging out with but I don't find this true of a lot of the men my age. Some. Not all and not a majority.

[Haha456]

very hard to find a man your age to be attractive. just have to be honest.

[Lliam]

I'm not 35-45.

[Nileviewboy]

We do peak at this age. usually by that time we have a wife, career (not job), a decent income, security, solid pension plan and a few kids. We can relax a little more and enjoy ourselves.

[Haha456]

Not really. If you're old aging, unattractive, single , still unmarried, no kids, not wealthy. You're not at your peak.

[Nileviewboy]

That is what i would expect someone shallow to say.
I know a lot of single men in their 40s and 50s that are very happy without having kids. They dont need wealth to be happy either. Why is it a theory that you need to be minted, married, and at the top of the career ladder to be prime?
If you think a man needs all you listed to be a prime, an alpha, or just husband material then i think you need to understand men more.

[Haha456]

I'm just saying I'm not attracted to old men. Vast majority of us young women aren't.

[BJP21]

Really? Im a late bloomer just hitting 40. I still have an active life style. I can still have sex like a college frat boy without the aid of viagra. I think you need to reevaluate that age group.

[Haha456]

Most guys dicks start to see first signs of malfunction by 40. Then it gets worse

[BJP21]

Im going to disagree. As long as any guy of that age range maintains a healthy lifestyle and keeps his hormones in check, his sexual appetite will not decline.

[Haha456]

you can't really control aging. a mix of genes and biology has the ultimate say in how quickly you age. but if you want to talk about vast majority of men, its 40

[Haha456]

there is a difference between sexual appetite versus sexual performance.

By 60, men will still have a sexual appetite, they just can't perform.

[Cassie88]

No one, whether male or female, is in their prime after they've turned 35.

[Haha456]

honest people are amazing

[Berethor]

I don't claim it, but 'men get old, women get replaced', women are more effected by aging.

[Haha456]

Men get replaced by sexy hot young men. I dont date grandpas.

[BLP11520]

Sexually, sorry to point this out but NO... I am still physically strong but a man will decline defendant upon a few things. At what age? For me around 44 to 47 lack of a really hard one once in awhile.

[Haha456]

I've slept around with a wide range of guys. I can tell you that limp old man dick was my least favorite by far.

[BLP11520]

Yes, unfortunately as we age a good hard one can not be counted on.

[Haha456]

you're the first honest one on here. everyone else is in denial.

[BLP11520]

Thanks,, to be helpful I tell the truth.

[artsy_dragon]

No not true. My mother has looked the best she has ever looked. So is my aunt. A lot of women have amazing careers and have kids in their 30's now. I would day 40 is your is your prime, hell even your 50's.

[artsy_dragon]

Lol misread it 😂

[artsy_dragon]

But anyways I don't agree. Look at Keanu Reevs 😂

[Haha456]

of course some people can manage to look good in their older years. i can't say thats true for the vast majority

[artsy_dragon]

Most people I know, who looks fyer themselves look amazing

[Haha456]

its genes that ultimately determine how you age, not taking care of yourself.

[Hellraiser1984]

Women start to lose their appeal around that age too. It's not just guys. You'll be in that age range someday and guys will think the same of you.

[Haha456]

I wouldn't be more attracted to 40 yr old men even if I were 40

[Anonymous]

Sounds like an angry bitter old woman who doesn't understand basic biology.. I'm 39 and none of these things have happened to me... None. Same with most men my age. Perhaps you need to go back to school princess.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Because they have money. Though you are appalled and, frankly I agree. Cash is king.

[Haha456]

actually most men never hit wealth in their lives. most families in the US live paycheck to paycheck. I think its just a dream that desperate men like to delude themselves with.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Most families? The fuck does that have to do with delusional claims of men?

[Haha456]

if most men reached their peak financial wealth at 45, then why do most families in the US live paycheck to paycheck

[CuriousMufuxka]

You didn't answer my question! You merely reiterated your original reply..

[Haha456]

because it was your claim that all 45 yr old men hit their financial peak.

[Haha456]

if that was true, why would so many families live paycheck to paycheck?

[CuriousMufuxka]

Yawn, your trolling is weak. Later dude.

[Haha456]

someones in denial.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Indeed ;)

[AngryCarl]

Media misinformation. Men actually peak between 25-30 mentally, slightly earlier physically and sexually.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Same reason why women are delusional enough to claim they lost their prime at 35-45

[Anonymous]

That is prime age for men and women, you just prob live in the wrong country and know close to nothing about health

[Haha456]

thats the time you start looking like shit and start getting fat.

[Opinion Owner]

yea... can't agree you talk too much shit, have you even ever seen a man at 40 that works out? Not to talk about intelligence, sexual experience etc

[Haha456]

most 40 yr old guys are suffering from hair loss, getting fat, dull skin, wrinkles settling in, thats also the age when the dick starts malfunctioning. It only gets worse at 50

[Opinion Owner]

I dont know where you get your information from, maybe the men around you and it is all due alimentation probably , probably you live in a very poor society

[Haha456]

Old man in denial cuz he can't take the fact that he ages too. you don't look better at 59 compared to 30, ok?

[Opinion Owner]

I think you are not able to accept any other ideeas then yourself that makes you kind of dumb

[Haha456]

I think you're just unwilling to accept that people look like shit as they age. No point in arguing with it. just accept it.

[Opinion Owner]

Maybe, but in their 60's and later, I would preffer a woman in her 30-40 anytime over a woman in her 20

[Haha456]

Men start losing their looks by 40 , not 60

[Opinion Owner]

Only the lazy ones

[Haha456]

only men in denial like you

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah let's agree to disagree, you are in your own movie

[Haha456]

you're not a woman. you don't know what a woman is attracted to.

[Opinion Owner]

Actually I do very well, you seem to not be a woman actually, just a freaking troll

[Haha456]

i can say that men are attracted to 45 yr old women over 20 yr old women too. doesn't mean its true. I know what im attracted to, I don't need you to tell me

[Opinion Owner]

I honestly don't really care who you are attracted to, I mean I would probably not even want to meet you like ever so... in case you don't know there are like millions of other women out there and you don't seem particulary intelligent and I am pretty sure you most likely don't even look great so... not my business what you attracted

[Haha456]

you're just pissed

[Opinion Owner]

Neah, I just told you what I truly think, i know you like to troll it is obvious

[Haha456]

I just think you're an immature old man who can't stand the fact that I'm not attracted to him.

[Opinion Owner]

Are you that delusional? I just told you I wouldn't even like you and thanks god I know how you think, if someone would pay me a million dollars I would not even date you. I don't really care if you are attracted to me, my genes are so good that people still think I am 20 so yeah... surprise.

[Haha456]

you do care about what i think. because if you didn't, you wouldn't be arguing with me.

I'm not attracted to 40 yr old men. I won't be attracted to old guys even if I were 40. Nothing but the truth.

[Haha456]

[my genes are so good that people still think I am 20 so yeah... surprise.]

this itself shows how frightened you are of aging.

[Opinion Owner]

Not really I feel immortal as a vampire actually, I am not afraid of anything, I think aging has its own beauty and I do hope I will age actually because its getting weird

[Haha456]

i think you're scared shitless

[Opinion Owner]

I am not sure why you talk with people if you don't take into account what they say.

[Haha456]

im not sure why you're so in denial about everything.

[Opinion Owner]

I really am not

[Haha456]

i know you are

[Opinion Owner]

Delusional you are. I feel that you actually reflect yourself in the words that try to describe me

[Haha456]

I go to the firehouse to get dates, not the elderly home, ok?

[Opinion Owner]

I am not sure what that is suppose to mean but I do sense you are actually very afraid of getting old. But it doesn't amazes me, you don't seem a loveable person so yeah...

[Haha456]

quite funny how a coward who is scared shitless of growing old accusing other people of being scared of growing old.

work on yourself first before you accuse other people.

[Opinion Owner]

But I am not scared don't you get it? I do must say you never know when to quit

[Haha456]

i dont see you quitting.

[Opinion Owner]

Well I dont have to because I know myself you are trying to create illusions

[Haha456]

my lack of attraction to 40 yr old men is not an illusion. its real

[Levin]

I think you need to stop spreading hate.

[Haha456]

I think its time we clear up some misunderstandings. I don't find 40 yr old men attractive.

[Levin]

Ah well, gutted.

[UniquelyBasic]

This is a based take

[Haha456]

i don't think so. tell me when the last time hair loss, weight gain , malfunctioning dicks, wrinkles, bad knees, weakness was considered sexy?

[UniquelyBasic]

You tell me the last time I said it was sexy.

[Haha456]

thats what old men like you like to delude yourself with to make yourselves feel better about aging.

[UniquelyBasic]

Happy New years 🤪

[Anonymous]

You are just bitter as men your age, don't want to date over 30 women anymore. A lot of men with higher earning capacity and education like doctors/lawyers/professors enter the dating market after 30.

[Haha456]

you're just a desperate bitter guy who is scared as hell about his value going down. vast majority of 45 yr old guys are poor, living paycheck to paycheck.

[Haha456]

I'm not attracted to old 40 yr old men. sorry

[Opinion Owner]

I have made a general comment and my value isn't going down. You are 31 and not attracted to 40-year-old men, good luck. If a few years, you will beg even 40 years old to date you with that delusion. However not wanting to date men who live paycheck to paycheck can be your choice but remember men who are not like that may not wanna date over 30 women either.

[Haha456]

you're just in denial about your own aging. why would I pick a hot handsome, young, strong muscular 30 yr old over an old ugly unattractive fat sagging 45 yr old suffering from hair loss?

[Haha456]

It doesn't matter if you want to date a young hot 21 yr old girl when SHE DOESN'T WANT YOU.

[Opinion Owner]

Well, the reality says otherwise, so many women in their twenties gladly date older men. I have seen female friends in college dating guys 29-42 while being 22. If you can date men of your age then fine, good for you but from your post, it's clear that you are getting a hard time attracting quality men of your age.

[Haha456]

there is actually no evidence women are marrying guys 10+ years older.

Vast majority of women are marrying men less than 10 years older.

[Haha456]

Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conroy-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:

Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.

www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage

[Haha456]

Though the average age gap between people in heterosexual relationships in the US is about 2.3 years,¹

www.psycom.net/.../age-difference-in-relationships

[Haha456]

www.pewresearch.org/.../

[Opinion Owner]

Marrige and dating are different thing

[Haha456]

Young ladies don't marry old men because they're not attracted to them. You marry who you are attracted to. I don't have a thing for old men either. what do you have to offer other than being fat, wrinkly saggy, with a dick that does not work?

[Opinion Owner]

I am not old 😂 and besides I work good to stay fit and look way younger than my age 26. If I shave my beard people stop me buying alcohol. My father at 60 actually look younger than most of his friends and has full hair on head. So I guess I will be good

[Haha456]

I think all old men say they look younger. But in reality , very few of them look attractive.

[Anonymous]

They do

Men are only worth their wallets for relationships then get cuckolded by the young guys

[Haha456]

yea... just how many men are wealthy by the time the hit 45? very few.

[Opinion Owner]

That's why they are mostly divorced for their failure to provide the promised value and in the next few years will be culled for it

[Haha456]

vast majority of families in america live paycheck to paycheck. Most men can't even afford stay home wives. what are you talking about every man hits their financial peak by 35-45 ? its the opposite.

[Opinion Owner]

That America, y'all paying for heathcare kills your finances

[Haha456]

most men in america are poor. even 100k is poor nowadays. our cost of living is so high

[Opinion Owner]

In almost everywhere else $100k is rich

[Haha456]

100k is not rich at all. Most men don't ever make 100k in their lives.

[Opinion Owner]

Must be living in some 3rd world hole then, I don't (it's a choice in avoiding the headache of the tax office) but everyone else I know does that in a month or two

[Haha456]

vast majority of average 45 yr old joes live paycheck to paycheck. they can't even afford stay home wives. I don't know what u talking about.

[Opinion Owner]

Guess I don't mix with average Joe's

Too boring

[Haha456]

Most old guys say they don't mix with average joes.

[Opinion Owner]

Most average guys I know are my fellow half broke entrepreneurs but then I dabble in financial advice so know a lot of monied people and fill their pockets as well as my own

[Opinion Owner]

Not to mention I am an old man excluding the date of my birth

[Haha456]

I think aging unattractive old men love lying to themselves cuz thats their only hope in getting a woman since no young lady wants them.

[Opinion Owner]

Who wants a women these days, they must be suicidal what with the MeToo firing squad lying in wait for them

[Anonymous]

Somebody's upset that she just hit the wall. 😆😆😆

[Haha456]

I'm actually 27

[Opinion Owner]

Sure you are cupcake.😆😆😆

[Haha456]

its quite funny how you would delude yourself that men dont hit the wall either.

[Haha456]

I'm not attracted to 45 yr old men. Just being honest.

[Anonymous]

You felt the need to post that?

[Haha456]

freedom of speech

[legalboxers]

Im washed out. I admit it and I dont care

[Anonymous]

Because women are gold diggers

[Haha456]

most of us aren't.

[Opinion Owner]

If you aren't then why is money the #1 thing men think they need to date more succesfully

[Haha456]

because vast majority of men never hit wealth or status. something that you hate to acknowledge.