
Guys: do you get offended if a woman asks if you’re gay?


Its very insulting to straight guys. It tells us that A. You think we're effeminate B. We aren't seen as on the market for you, and C. It crushes us and makes us feel insecure about our presentation.
I completely understand your co-workers' response. It'd crush his self-image and make him insecure about how he is presenting himself.
Why on earth didn't you ask him out for coffee and look for signs of attraction towards you?
I didn’t asked him out because my other coworker has been making public how much she likes him. Also, he is so shy that even though he kept staring at me, he was just serious with me as if he dint want to be bothered, and I had no idea if he was in a relationship or not 🤷🏼♀️😄
Oh no! I just realised it was your co-worker that said it... oof. That is not good. Everything I just said about how it made him feel will now be associated with her... the embarrassment too.
Why on earth didn't she just ask him out for a coffee and go from there. Shy guys are Shy, you gradually work them out of their shell. Casual conversation, simply wanting to talk to him would have made him less anxious around her and eventually open up.
If he was in a relationship he would use that as his go-to excuse. He's single
Never say this to a guy you like 🤦
I think what’s going on that many women think guys are as gung ho about the “LGBT alphabet” culture as they are. So they think asking a straight guy if he’s gay is no big deal.
Now it on the surface it probably wasn’t meant to be insulting in the woman’s mind. But they don’t understand how straight men think. We are under pressure to come off as masculine if we want to be truly respected and gain (real) attraction from women.
So she asks this then your list of reasons above are all very real for him. It’s a very deep (unintentional) insult.
@globetrotter22 Exactly. She could have just said "Do you like girls?" whilst stroking her hair; this would not only communicate her attraction, but also ask the question in a non insulting way.
@RACSKC0B Yeah, precisely that
Everything you said was accurate other than your question at the end
@neilsmart while many gay guys are. Not all of them are but there is a reason why that stereotype exists.
Not that I like that stereotype There are 100% straight guys who have feminine characteristics. They don’t like being labeled “gay” either.
The first few times as a teen I would get offended, because of male machismo culture in the early 2000s was heavily ingrained in me.
After I realized that no ugly guy is ever to be presumed to be gay... I now take that "presumed to be gay" instance to be "wow he looks good" in my college days and beyond.
:-P
This is exactly precisely correct.
For some odd reason, both men and women, think any dude who looks 'reasonably' good must be gay. I even see it with top fitness gurus on Youtube. They say So and so must be gay because they have decent looks and muscles. As if straight dudes are ONLY supposed to be fat slobs that wear trucker hats or some weird shit.
@VikingWarLord any good looking dude who doesn’t have a girlfriend. Like it’s magically just as easy for a man (good looking or not) to date as vice versa.
People don’t question a single attractive woman’s sexuality. People figure she is just voluntarily single (and she usually is) not a lesbian.
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Probably because he doesn't have a ton of success with women. You calling it out, making him feel like it is something that everyone is talking about, judging him about. Not to mention the social stigma that men at a certain age should have experience with women or they are considered losers.
Not to mention as a woman asking that you are basically calling him feminine/not manly. If she likes him, it's a strange way to show it. To insinuate his actions are homosexual, not something most women are attracted to. Wouldn't give him much confidence in himself if he isn't gay.
You basically called all of that out with one simple question. Some might not mind, but if you think about it, asking someone in public this question is pretty rude. Especially in a work setting, someone could get fired for that actually.
1. It's none of your fucking business
2. Maybe he is and doesn't want the whole office knowing, or talking about who he might like to fuck.
It's not the question itself that is the problem, it's all of the stuff that goes along with the assumption, especially from a woman who doesn't understand what it's like to be a man. They were rude in the way they went about asking, that's why he was offended. Not because he might be perceived as gay.
Just think of it as if he has asked her how much she weighs, in front of everyone at the office. It's kind of a personal detail that most women don't want to share, but it's not really a big deal. Who cares right?
That woman, whose self-worth is tied to how much she might weigh. Is it a silly thing to get embarrassed about, maybe? Is it a rude question to ask? Most men wouldn't care, but most women I know would have an issue with this question.
Yes it’s a very insulting question to ask a straight guy. I can see why he acted taken aback.
While it isn’t common nowadays calling straight men “gay” was a common bullying tactic used many decades. It’s literally saying the guy isn’t masculine.
There may be other reasons a handsome guy has dating troubles with women. Maybe he’s had some horrible past experiences with women. Maybe he was raised by a crappy mother. Maybe he’s picky and only goes after a certain type of women. It could be a lot of things. But questioning his sexuality right off bat is very shallow minded and insulting.
You also have to remember that dating is NOT the same for men as it is for women. If an attractive woman was long time single and/or shy around men do people automatically assume she’s a lesbian? Of course they don’t. What makes women think it’s okay to assume this about men?
Also it’s now cool and trendy to be gay nowadays. If he really was gay he would likely be more open about it.
How will she know if she doesn't ask? Lol. America is laden with lgbtq movements... she probably thought it is disrespectful to assume he is straight
But she wasn't smart.
If she really likes him and want a chance she should just "would you like to go on a date with me" ... if he says no... she isn't entitled to an explanation
@LovingLoverReturned do you want to apply a woman’s point of view or ask and listen to an actually straight man about this?
He’s now wondering why she thinks that. Do view him as feminine? Do people view him as weird? It’s always fine to judge to a man for not being good with women, right?
Instead of asking if he’s gay how about asking him on a date and seeing how he reacts?
Women need to stop forcing their “modern” world views on men. Most guys are straight and most straight guys don’t want people thinking their “gay”. It’s rooted in wanting our masculinity to be respected (which is something large swathes of women misunderstand).
Reading your second response about this. Yes she wasn’t smart at all.
I don’t think she meant to insult him. But there are still women out there who insult men with accusing them of being “gay”’. It’s even more insulting for a straight man to hear that from a woman vs another man.
Well we agreed then. Probably not bad intention... I have no idea what she thinks will come of her question... she did not show romantic interest... she just asked a useless question, only use is to make things awkward.
@LovingLoverReturned I think it’s not as insulting to women if they are asked if they are bi/lesbian vs it is to men. Reason being is female sexuality is more fluid in comparison to men (there are lots of bi women). Also there are a lot of feminine bisexual women.
However men yearn to be respected and we know masculine energy earns use respect from other men and attraction/respect from women. This also another reason most men hate the stereotypical “friéndzone”. It’s not a sex issue but a respect issue. We don’t appreciate other women looking at us as one them to “just be friends with”. Not to say we can’t be friendly because we can.
I was one of those young handsome guys who was usually single in my late teens and most of my 20s. I too got wrongly accused of being “gay” when I wasn’t. It really pissed me off. My reasons for being single were much more complicated.
I understand.
thanks for hearing me out.
It may not be something Josh is comfortable discussing, at least at work. It also depends on what you're like, how it was asked, etc. A question to ask yourself is why did you ask this. Sometimes we can feel singled out, tokenized, fetishized, etc. If Josh didn't feel comfortable discussing his orientation with you, that's perfectly fine. Regardless of Josh's orientation, I want to note that LGBTQ+ people don't come out of the closet. It's a revolving door. An even better way to look at it is that we're not coming out, but choosing to let you in. If you aren't trusted or the person doesn't feel safe discussing, then that's perfectly valid. Some people don't even discuss it, or have reasons to keep it quiet. Maybe they don't want to until they have the write language or understanding, reached a certain point, or perhaps it's not safe for them to do so at work, or at home, and are worried word might get spread around. In many places, it's illegal and unsafe to be openly LGBTQ+. There are many factors, but the one factor that matters most here is that Josh doesn't have to tell you or anyone. Don't make a big deal out of it and don't try to be invasive. Let it go. Think about the situation for a bit, get comfortable with the discomfort, and then if/when you're ready, you could consider a brief and sincere apology saying that you didn't mean to be invasive and should have considered their perspective before approaching. But don't go on a rant or ramble or anything, and don't say anything if it's not sincere and thoughtful. Good luck.
Hi, thank you for your opinion. Perhaps you missed the part where I explained that my co-worker asked him this question. I was just an spectator and I felt he became offended and uncomfortable. Personally I don’t think is okay to ask because like you said, if someone trusts you, they will share that with you. It caught my attention though that I’ve seen this behavior in every straight man when asked the question. I just want to know to understand their reasons to be offended when there shouldn’t be a reason really…
It's intrusive, but also makes him question how he presents himself to the world.
Usually, I don't get asked. I get accused. And even then only by crazy thots desperate for ad hominem attacks because they're losing an argument and becoming unhinged. Of course, that's usually after they project their own unhinged nature onto me, and claim that my not bending to their cliches somehow "proves" that I'm the next Vegas shooter or what-not.
And I can tell these ladies are bankrupt, degenerate trash, because they have to sexualize literally every conversation! I remind them of how charities can't operate in peace without wasting overhead money on government red tape, or else badged thugs break into homes and pour bleach on food, especially in Missouri... and then I get compared to Elliot Roger out of nowhere! It's almost comical at this point. These hens have nothing!
You never ask about someone’s sexuality in the workplace. That’s technically sexual harassment. so that issue alone could have taken him off guard.
i guess I’d be thinking, why does she think that? I don’t think I’d take it as an insult, but it is a weird question. I don’t think I have ever asked a girl if she was a lesbian. Would u like that question?
If you care about offending people, ask open ended questions.
For example the question could have just been...
What is your sexual orientation?
Have you had a partner in the past?
Are you dating someone?
He probably is questioning his self image now and is changing how he projects himself to ensure that won't happen with other girls.
If a girl is interested in a guy, there's no reason that should be the first thing she asks him. It is definitely insulting to any straight guy and they'd most likely become a little insecure about their image and how they present themselves after being asked that. "What about me seems gay? Is it the way I talk? The way I dress? Do I have a gay face? What do I need to do so that it's not girls first impression of me?" Those are all the thoughts that would most likely be running through a straight guy's head immediately.
Guy don't get offended they get annoyed. Almost all men into women have had sex with other men and liked it. BUT the guy can honestly say no to that question. BUT if you asked if he was bisexual only then will he have the need to lie.
One thing women don't get is perfectly straight men have sex with other men all the time. When women see "gorgeous" "beautiful" men they often think gay when he's not, not even bisexual BUT in a way women are kinda right..
Good looking men like all men want sex but with good looking men they can get sex with another man FAR more easily than from a woman and when I say "far" it's an understatement it's more like "near impossible" compared to how easy it is to get sex with another man.
Sex with another man fills all the needs just as well as with a woman.
I really don’t give a shit either way.
one of my mates is gay but is like 6’6 and play rugby etc, another is straight but a tad camp.
when all 3 of us go out, my large mate gets hit on by all the girls and they do not be. I’ve he’s gay.
equally we go to gay bars with our group and I’ve been hit on a few times.
however asking a work colleague unless you are really good friends will upset them, also if guys asked a girl is she was a lesbian, they could be reported to HR.
Sexuality is often a fairly private thing, especially among guys,
Generally I think most guys would be offended if a girl asks them if they are gay. It is an intense insult.
Quite a few years ago it seemed like the first thing a girl said to a guy was to ask if he was gay. I'm pretty sure it was a come on used by girls at that time because I saw/heard girls ask guys that who clearly weren't.
When a girl tried that on me I considered myself entitled to demonstrate my complete lack of gayness by feeling her up everywhere until she said "OK OK you aren't gay".
I think that was kinda the point of girls doing that back then. A challenge to a guy to prove he wasn't gay and there they were - a girl - conveniently close at hand for him to validate his hetro certificate.
Was this what your co-worker was doing? Trying to smash this guys reluctance for office romance?
I am not offended by a girl asking if I am gay and she shouldn't be offended when I prove otherwise.
I have never been asked in a serious way if I am gay, so I have no real opinion on this question. What I get angry about though is when women come to sit in a bar and order a few drinks, then get upset because men won't approach them, call the bar a gay bar, and act all offended. The dating scene has changed 100% from what it was 30 years ago. Back in the 90s, a man could walk up to a female and offer to buy her a drink, at the worse all she would do is make fun of him. Today a man can get banned from a bar for doing that same thing OR WORSE. This is why most men won't approach women in bars today! Then have these same women insult them by calling them gay!
People shouldn't make assumptions about those they hardly know. Being outgoing, handsome and shy does not equate to being "gay"; it just means the person is outgoing, handsome and shy. Perhaps that is what set him off, the silly extrapolation that was made.
Some guys (and girls) just get really offended with questions like that.
Especially at our age, people who get really offended are either deeply closeted or homophobic (sometimes both!).
I think it's going away, though.
Either way, questioning someone's sexuality outright - unless you're in an environment where that's expected - is usually a rude thing to do. Other people's love lives aren't really your and your coworkers' business.
Cause you’re questioning their masculinity. That was an ignorant thing for your friend to ask. Shy around the opposite sex does NOT mean gay. In fact both gay people are more comfortable around the opposite sex cause there’s no romantic tension to deal with. Plus what if he had been gay and didn’t want to admit it? Asking that was just really rude.
i think it's hilarious!!
Not too long ago a 14 year old neighbor girl had a huge crush on me and was horny as fuck. She was obvious about it. She would knock on my door for no good reason , for a glass of water or to use the bathroom. She would dress in booty shorts and tube tops when she did.
It was that obvious why she was "stopping in".
It got so bad that I did my best to avoid her.
One day she asked me if I was gay!!!
I more or less told her that me as a 20 year old was not willing to spend time in prison for fucking a 14 year old.
She was pissed.
It is a sad but funny story!!!
No, I get offended when they spread rumors that I'm gay. If someone just asks maybe they don't know me or asking for a friend or being nosy. But if they try spreading misinformation behind my back that's crappy behavior. Also immature. We're adults now.
1. Most straight men want to be and thought of as an alpha male and very masculine. And, stereotypically gay men are less masculine/more feminine than straight men (not always) and it insults them to hear that they aren't thought of as masculine.
2. Their personality is insulted, because the question implies that just because they have some "gay traits" they are automatically gay.
I would be insulted if a women asked me if I was gay, not because I'm against gay people, but for the reasons listed above.
I've never had any woman ask me that. Now, if they thought so they certainly didn't ask. But I could see that being offensive to a guy, yeah. It would be the equivalent to a guy asking if you're pregnant when you really just have a lot of belly fat. Wouldn't that offend you?
That is a pretty messed up thing to ask someone you are not friends with. So, yes, I think most guys wouldn't take kindly to it. I don't know if offended is the right word. But I would definitely tell the person to go fuck themselves. It is none of their business.
Hehe I don't know why some guys get offended. But I've been asked that several times when I mention the fact that I'm waiting to have s** until marraige. Not sure why that question is their first reaction to me saying that. But I couldn't care less because it I am who I am and if they don't appreciate me saving myself for one girl, not my problem.
I don’t know how men feel about that. As a straight girl I have always been assumed straight. I mean I get asked about my love life a lot and people are like “sooo do you have a boyfriend?” I think people just calculate on their gaydar. Some people probably just come across queer.
I wouldn't be offended (plus many guys act jokingly flirty with their guy friends). Being gay doesn't mean you're feminine or anything. But I'll propose a more productive way to ask:
"What's your sexual orientation?"
Works better than "are you gay?", because if you tell a straight man you assumed he's gay, he might feel the need to act differently to appear straight
Not at all as it suggests she knows of at least one girl who wants to know if I fuck girls. I wouldn't expect she would tell me who, unfortunately - she might not even know, depending on how the topic came up in her social circles - but it's still a better situation than I was in before she asked.
Nobody has ever asked me that.
The reason he got offended is because gays are not as accepted as some people think. It's a grave insult to be accused of being gay. To ask if someone is gay is like saying you think they act gay.
There are a lot of people who say they think it's OK to be gay, but they don't really believe it. They are being politically correct, when inside they don't really think it's OK.
Sort of, because it’s only ever happened to me as a result of me rejecting a woman. So it’s clearly meant as an insult. I don’t pass for gay, or even curious i think. I’ve been in gay bars and never was approached. If you can’t handle rejection, don’t risk it. That goes for men and women both.
Nope, being gay or homosexual is a sexual preference. Would you get offended if someone said do you like to shower in the morning or evening. I have known many homosexual men in my field (high tension electrical maintenance) they were hardcore and I'd put my life in their hands.
No, not offended.
That happens to me, from time to yime, because I do not deliver the required response to sexual signals sent by women.
If I want to shock the woman, I will tell her that I was castrated to remove my desire for women.
That causes wide eyes, rapid blinking and a ‘does not compete’ look on her face. 🤣
If you want to curse her interest on you, you just say that 😁
Because men are held to different and more exacting sexual standards than women. Calling a straight man gay is an insult, where I’ve heard straight women joke that one of the group is “such a lesbian” and nobody cared or gave it a second thought. Asking the question is a linguistic trick/work around for stating the insult. Based on the reaction however, I wonder if he is just not out yet and publicly asking him forced a confrontation that he did not want.
I wouldn't be offended. Women think gay guys are good-looking, so I'd thank her for the compliment, saying, "No, I'm not... thanks for the compliment."
Back in my single days I would then ask her if she would like to join me for coffee.
Yeah, it's usually women that are mad a man isn't interested in them that do this.
It's a social attack, a way to control, it's says "I can stop you from having a relationship with other women by a false accusation of homosexuality "
The best response is to ask if she's fully transitioned or still has a peni**..
Never thought of that but you're right
I've been called gay and felt like the girl was just trying to make other girls disinterested
I think most straight guys don't want to be asked that bc they'll feel like people think they're girly or weak ( not that gays are but often they are portrayed that way)
Personally I would not get offended id asked that question, but for some guys it would be the biggest insult you could possibly give them.
If your 'friend' wanted to ask that question why did she not do it privately?
If she had any thoughts about a positive relationship of any kind she just killed that stone dead,
I don't like personal questions to begin with. There are a lot of questions people just shouldn't ask. My mom is 75 and asked a lady at a restaurant last week what her ethnicity was, the lady was rightfully taken aback. To me the gay question falls in the same boat. If a women likes a guy she'd be better off asking him out than asking him if he's gay.
Eh, it's probably just the shock factor. If it's the first time he's even been asked, he's likely to get a little offended.
Personally, I'm used to it, since I've been waiting to have sex until marriage. So I've gotten that a lot. People get confused easily when they see a guy who isn't sexually active, so they wonder why.
They think their natural masculinity would answer the question for them.
Some guys are very much in denial about their ability to talk to women. He might think he is suave charming and a ladies man. So he gets offended if that was not immediately obvious...
I wouldn’t get angry, but I would be offended. If I had any attraction to the woman it would be gone after that interaction.
Because he would take it as his actions have led you to believe he is gay
No it probably wouldn't offend me, when you asked I would probably be staring at your boobs, it might take me a little while to respond with hilarious laughter
😂 awesomeness
I got asked once but wasn't offended but can understand the premise of being offended by the question. It's like why should it matter if he is or not.
It's like asking a woman if she's a lesbian, bi, they would get offended because they think he's a perv for asking
How about misgendering someone? then all hell breaks loose
depends on the guy , but this guy you said he is shy with women maybe he can't deal with female specially if he likes her , let your friend go to him again and tell him she was joking just to open a different subject with him and let her invite him for a coffee
The ones that are insecure and overreact about it it are for sure on the down low but would rather “fit in “ the with their guy friends and be overly toxic with women because of their own frustrations. That’s my take on it from what I’ve seen. They’re homophobes because they’re insecure deep down.
No, but it might suggest stuff about how I am or how I act, and about how people perceive that. In the times this happened to me, it was after learning about my lack of experience with women in my 20s, so apparently it's all that matters.
Yes because it would make me feel singled out especially if I like her I would take as a sign that she considers me not interesting for dating.
I therefore understand why he´s insulted because it seems like you think he´s not a man for a woman.
I’ve never gotten offended when people ask about my sexuality, then again I’m a gay man so its something I’m used to. A lot of straight dudes are just insecure about their sexuality and masculinity so they take it super personally
@Chris____ so What I’m getting from this is that you’re insecure about your masculinity lol
Many men are on the DOWN LOW these days so U have 2 ASK that? if U don't want HIV, hep B/C/D, syphilis pumped into your snatch or even ass, but ask with MORE class next time, ok?
No because you wouldn't know if ya don't ask. If anything I may take it as compliment. Since I don't try to please the idea of whatever a so called "Real Man" is.
Not at all, before this was normalised.
Gay is no longer an insult. It also made things better. You gay? No!
If anything in my behaviour sent this notion, then it's your perception, calibrate your gaydar.
Yeah I would be. That's what b*tchy women do to insult someone. And back in the day, if a guy said that to another guy, those are fighting words.
Because it's offensive? Are you really that clueless?
no, it's just a sign he needs to look at himself and grow emotionally, be clear about his intentions. women are confused, so that's not their problem.
Yea that is not a question you should be asking people. Super weird. In fact that is a situation that you could have stepped into
Not a good question to ask at work.
The guy might get offended and anyways one should not date people at work. If a woman asks such a question it could be that she is into him.
Yes because women tend to think men are gay for really stupid ass reasons. Im 100% straight and I've had female co workers ask if Im gay because I dress well. Who the fuck told you all that any man who dresses well is gay?
No because it’s not true. I don’t do wieners & I don’t pack fudge.
Plus being gay is cool now, so that’d be a plus 😏🤘🏽
Because men think gay men can't be masculine, and the biggest insult to a 4yo is being called a girl. Most straight men are homophobic that way.
Nope, I just assume the person is not very observant. If you can't see that I'm constantly glancing at cleavage and looking at girl's booty then that's your problem.
Yes, if you accuse of someone of something they are not they will get pi$$ed off.
Men tend to get especially angry if their sexuality is questioned.
I’d imagine it’s because you’re implicitly questioning his masculinity, but it’s rude to ask anyway.
I take it to mean "Hey, you dress well and have excellent taste in interior design." It doesn't really offend me until she refuses to do anal.
I think just because a guy isn’t very social with women doesn’t always mean they are gay
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