Do you think men delete ourselves 4x more than women because of toxic masculinity or toxic femininity?

[TonightYouu]

Men and women deal with emotions completely differently Men will talk to other men about their feelings to a certain extent if you are getting like super mawkish guys will clown you

but if we are actually being serious about our feelings and issues it’s different because men want actual solutions where as women just wanna be coddled and heard men don’t tell women our feelings or problems

bill burr did a bit about this and he said when men talk to women about something really emotional they just use it as ammunition for later because women hate to be held accountable and really hate to lose arguments

women see men as the problem solver if men came to women with all our problems you would look at us like “Wtf is wrong with this guy he can’t do shit” “I’m not his mom”

so as a man we just don’t completely open up to women listen to what they say “ we want guys to open up and talk more” That’s the female nature they think that will help us and it doesn’t because we as men know if we have serious emotional problems we don’t want to talk we want solutions that’s just male nature

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by the way mean girls and fight club are both great movies check em out if you haven’t seen

[molonski2]

Both are pretty dam horrendous , but I've seen a great deal of A , I will vote A in this circumstance.

[TonightYouu]

Why did you pick A?

[molonski2]

Because its even worse than B

[TonightYouu]

How so?

[Staximus]

I don't think suicide has to do with either. Women say they want a guy who will talk about their feelings. When you do, many of them see you as weak and less of a man. So you're damned if you and damned if you don't.

[BlueScorpio]

Neither, men commit suicide more often cause they don't know how to talk about their feelings. A lot refuse therapy, even if they can afford it. Men need to let go and cry, they also need more male support groups so they can express what they're going through. What they don't need is having friends that mock them for showing emotions. I'm sorry fellas, but it's also men that make men be silent about their feelings. I've heard to to many jokes and see to many memes about guys calling their homies soft or secretly gay for expressing feelings to one another. But anyway I don't think the problem has to do with masculinity or feminiity and more to do with lack of listening and understanding. Guys complain about this a lot online, but then the second a girlfriend/wife asks to talk about your feelings, some of y'all be like "ugh... why". Lol 😆 even my husband does this, I say can we talk about your feelings and he literally looks at me and asks why we have to do this. Lol so pleas ewhen ask you to express yourself dint get weird about it.

[AngeryCapsicum]

Men have long been indoctrinated to believe that that can't talk about them by both men and women. Now they're told they and can talk about them and it just makes us feel uncomfortable. The whole "problem solving" aspect may also come into play a bit, I have heard women complain about something yet seem to get more frustrated with any advice to attempt to remedy their situation.

[BlueScorpio]

@AngeryCapsicum It's just I rarely hear women say anything off about a guy crying or showing emotion. I think it's definitely more of male thing where men push each other to be tougher throughout history.

[TonightYouu]

Men can’t live like that y’all women need to understand we are not emotional creatures that you are we need to solve or problems not talk about them
Girls would just need “oh honey there there *Pat on the head* everything will be ok” and that alone will make you feel better talking doesn’t help men how it helps women why do you think so many women have talk shows

[BlueScorpio]

How in one breath you guys are going to say you're not emotional creatures then in next complain about how society doesn't care about men's mental health? How they don't care that men are suffering in silence? You're literally on take asking why men commit suicide 4x more than women yet men aren't emotional? You just proved everything that I said about men shunning away emotional support when asked.

[TonightYouu]

And you don’t understand that therapy isn’t how we deal with mental health im not asking about why men kill our selves 4x more I know why and therapy (talking) doesn’t help us

[BlueScorpio]

Well not seeking therapy doesn't seem to be helping either. You can't have it both ways. What do you want? Do you want men to seek help or not? Or do you want men to stay in pain all because of ego getting in the way?

[TonightYouu]

I personally don’t because it builds character to go through it without help all im saying is what works for women doesn’t work for us at all you won’t understand it because you think like a woman and female solutions don’t solve male problems

Because with women a lot of the time the actual problem isn’t the problem but the problem is how the problem makes you feel

[BlueScorpio]

Then suffer in silence and stop complaining about how society doesn't care for men then if that's how it's going to be. You don't want to fix the problem, then deal with it. This is whyore young and men will keep dying. Can't force a thirsty horse to drink water I guess. Good luck

[TonightYouu]

No we will die because women like you think it’s my way or the highway instead of making the effort to try and understand how men are and support us then suffer in silence then don’t complain next time there's another mass shooting or a woman is drug into a bathroom raped and beaten stop thinking like a loser and help OUR way or keep your opinions to yourself

[BlueScorpio]

I just did, it's you whos only thinking one way. I gave you whole list of things men could do to help each other and you refused it. At this point you don't want help, you just want to whine. So good luck.

[TonightYouu]

@BlueScorpio no we don’t need YOUR help or any woman’s help or advice it’s terrible advice and doesn’t help us at all women are terrible at counseling men so I’m saying you can really keep your opinions to yourself

[MCheetah]

I don't believe in "toxic masculinity" or "toxic femininity." I think some people are just assholes, regardless of gender.

I'm not sure what the question is asking, though. "Delete ourselves?" Are you asking, do men not open up more due to other men or other women? It's because we're not overly emotional and complaining all day gets nothing done (not that there aren't times where you just need to vent.) Being over-emotional is a female trait. So don't hate.

[msc545]

I took "delete" to refer to suicide but perhaps I am wrong. Not sure.

[TonightYouu]

Yep
delete = suicide
grape = rape

[Jennz6]

Men are dominant and toxic

[TonightYouu]

How are we toxic