Why do men claim to be simple when they label things as complicated?

[Justneedtokno]

[TheSpaceGnome]

I don't claim to be simple, I claim to dislike simple people.

Simple doesn't mean "not complicated", it means "uninteresting", "boring", "no hobbies", "no talents".

1950s housewive stereotype is simple.
Husband who comes home and watches nascar and drinks beer is simple.

Party goers who just talk or dance or get wasted/high and fuck are simple.

People who think actual fun is for children are simple.

People who hate science and learning are simple.

Complicated is when you make drama for no reason, when you overthink everything (not to be confused with thinking things through). It's when you try to apply hidden meanings to words that aren't there, or when you make a huge fuss over tiny things and ignore real problems.
It's when you stop making sense in general, or can't make up your mind. Most simple people are VERY complicated, because they don't use their brain much, so dealing with them is a huge hassle.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Also "fixing people" is not the solution, matching similar people is.

[VIVANT]

I do agree with the essence of what you are saying.

Unfortunately, To a lot of people thinking things through is “thinking too much” for some it’s bc they don’t want to confront certain thugs nor want the other person to understand. It’s a defense mechanism. For others, they just don’t like to think. Period. So for them, everything beyond surface level is too complicated & waste of time.

What I don’t like about the use of “ thinking too much” is in saying it someone claims a status of rationality they may not possess & it often muddies the waters. If a person can’t understand how it might be important to think certain things through or weigh one set of rubies against against another, they may call it “ thinking too much” but what is happening is needed analysis.

And there are people who over intellectualism but it isn’t the same as not looking at things logically, instead it is the use of thought to obstruct feeling. There are people who have to think their way through feelings bc of years of desensitization.

I think it was a huge disservice when thinking too much became a house hold term to dismiss basically anyone with a different view avoid conflict & shut down a discussion.

in my opinion Better to be clear & point out what is happening.

Just say someone overlooks important information. Or gets caught up in insignificant detail. “Thinking” really shouldn’t be used as a euphemism to describe not thinking.

[TheSpaceGnome]

@VIVANT I generally agree with that.

The term "thinking too much" usually implies that the person comes to a rational conclusion, then questions it, despite it logically being true, because they aren't able to understand it well enough to know its correct, or more specifically why its correct. So in that sense, yes, they "aren't thinking".

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

To make themselves look good, but the reality of the matter most people aren't simple.

They want this and need that and if you don't give to them when they want and how they want it then they bitch and moan about it.

[FilmGuy93]

We want to make ourselves look good. Sometimes ideas sound simple in theory but are actually super complicated in practice.

[VIVANT]

Anyone professing themselves to be anything is generally suss. Other people can see who you are it’s not for you to tell them who you are lol let alone your entire gender 🤦🏻‍♀️

I’ve never met a simple person. I’ve met people who don’t know themselves very well or who try hard to keep communicating action shallow but I’ve be met a simple person. What I find is people who are quick to call or more likely accuse other people of being complicate, seek drama but don’t want to take credit for it 😝

In my experience those who seek clarity will just be transparent, they will not play games. In the time it takes to accuse another person of being complicated, one could instead mace “simply” & communicate. This would be a positive action that with cooperation , reaps positive results. Whereas accusation is a negative action, that not only unlikely to accomplish anything positive but generates loss by crushing morale.

I understand anyone can get fed up with bs. However I’m very skeptical of anyone going straight to attack mode. Especially when they double down. ffs let. it. go. 😂

[MrOracle]

Men, GENERALLY, are pretty simple. The problems we have to take on and resolve in life can be very complicated, but most men are pretty simple.

We understand our role and our duty: to work/solve problems/provide, and to protect. Much of our time is taken with those things (the former more than the latter for most of us).

When we aren't protecting or providing, what do we want? We want to eat, fuck, and to relax in peace.

That's not especially complicated, right? Our desires are simple and straightforward. It doesn't take much to make us happy.

I think you'll agree that women's list of things they want and care about is far, far longer and much more complicated. In fact, for most women, EVERYTHING is complicated. I've seen women agonizing over which ketchup to buy at the grocery store, or which towels to buy, much less which outfit to wear for some event. I've had girls who needed 45 minutes to read a menu and narrow their choice down to just 3 items, before FINALLY picking one - usually to pick at it and which she'd made a different choice.

The point is: men, for the most part, ARE simple, and women ARE, for the most part, complicated. That's hardly a radical concept - even most women would agree with it.

[BeMuse]

I've never claimed to be simple... I've just said I mean what I say. A lot of women do not know how to listen to basic English as it is spoken. They think there's some secret code in the ether that they have to discover when someone speaks honestly to them.

[Alex8736]

Men are very simple and deal with issues head on but only gets complicated when the person asking the men questions stir up a debate until they get the answer they want to hear but people that are difficult drives me to walk away and not waste my time or breath

[MCheetah]

Men ARE simple. Women are the ones who are complicated, make things complicated, and aren't used to things NOT being complicated.

[Anonymous]

People how are honest and know what they want out of life are simple. Most people don't know what they want. People even believe they know what they want but don't.
If you think you know what you want you want... You don't.
Knowing exactly what you want is definite. It doesn't have maybe energy behind it. It's a clear picture.

[Chazmatazz269]

By comparison to women, men are simple. That’s why we say it, and we’re always right in doing so. I might be the most complex man that has ever lived, but i’m as simple as a light switch compared to every woman that had ever lived.

[The_Shadow_Dweller]

People perceive us to be simple to be honest. Everyone is complicated in their own sense.

[Guy13]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3Pt94HFnHk0

[Havthrills]

I don't do either one. I don't know what to claim as complicated. No one is simple. A person can choose to be complicating to someone.

[Sixgunsound]

In order to create a backdrop to contrast the complicated thing against.

[Philyouup]

not sure
i understand the question. we are all complicated creatures even when we say we arnt.

[exitseven]

I always used to say I was a complicated person trying to impersonate a much simpler man.

[KrakenAttackin]

Men ARE simple, you just have to understand the context.

[Justneedtokno]

If you are simple, there shouldn’t be no contacts included

[Alcoholic_Wannabe]

It takes a lot for me to see anything as complicated so I don't know.

[maximumpower]

Bc they're not describing themselves - they're describing things.
Not that difficult - really.

[legalboxers]

its only complicated because they made it to be

[Anonymous]

The only shit we label complicated is any bullshit situation we have with a female.

[hyperben]

men have simple desires, thats it

[NathanDavis]

I try my best not to claim in absolutes...

[boggboss]

I would say most men are simple to be honest

[AviatorTom]

Simple answer... because they can

[bean2k21]

This question is complicated.

[Anonymous]

Label what things as complicated?

[Anonymous]

Men are more complicated than they seem.

[MrOracle]

They really aren't - it's just that a lot of women project their OWN desires and values onto men, and are then surprised and confused when men don't demonstrate those values or desires. Women see that as men being complicated, but it's really men not understanding who and what men really are, and instead, projecting their own feelings into the men, and then expecting them to behave and react accordingly. But that doesn't work, because the entire premise - that they could assume that men would want and desire what women want - is false.

[MiseriaCantareAFI]

Why do women do the same

[EaterPeter]

We are liers too 🤣😂