Usually it's because they had a bad experience with some cheating or lying bitch, or they want sex and can't get it. Both of which make them unlikable, which makes them angrier. Coupled with sense of entitlement to other people's time, body and attention which they don't get, makes it much worse.
Shit that's why I didn't say shit and why I don't judge others who don't day shit. It's pain we don't need to keep reliving especially when nothing comes from it.
Most of the new permit holder/first time buyer customers that come in to my store are women, I would honestly rather help them find a gun that the tacti-tool lumberjack wannabe men. I understand a gun is not a magic shield against attack but it tends to make most think twice, or at least decrease the number of repeat offenders🤣. Love seeing someone else listen to Tom Macdonald, that guy is on point. @Agape93 I'm sorry to hear that you went through that, please keep speaking up, louder for the kids in the back. All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. I am so impressed that you are able to live life and not turn bitter, as the best revenge is living well. You are doing life right. Your effort is helping my daughters lives become just a tiny bit easier.
Misogyny usually starts to form quite early in life and that hatred stems from trauma involving a female figure they trusted. They donât heal from it and project onto most women, typically who ever subconsciously triggers those memories
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There are multiple reasons why men hate today's women. The biggest is the fact that today's women offer men little more than sex. Men of the past had more motivation to be the kind of man a good woman wants, but that motivation is disappearing because the quality women men want have mostly disappeared. Today's women don't understand what a quality woman is. They have changed drastically and expected men to just accept them as they are. But any man who does an honest cost/benefit analysis of marriage or committed relationships with women will conclude they're not worth it anymore.
I don't think there is, for the most part, any hatred involved. At the risk of not being OC I will say, in my experience men and women think differently about these kind of things. When a man takes the time to listen to the women in his life, he comes to realize this. I have female friends and we talk about a lot of different topics and sexual harassment is one of the main topics we discuss. If I am one hundred percent honest the majority of the examples they give would not only not bother me were the situation reversed, but flatter me. We grew up with the golden rule; "treat others the way you want to be treated". I say this is flawed because not everyone wants treated the same as you do, rather, treat others the way they want to be treated.
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Hahahah i love how women believe that men having a Natural sexual interest in them is âhateâ.
Itâs Like people staring at a sunset because they hate it. âWow look at the awe and beauty of that stunning sunset⊠piece of shit sunsetâ hahaha such an insane mentality.
1st of all, men donât âobjectifyâ women. Women objectify themselves. Men simply observe females exposing themselves for sexual cheap attention and women blame men because they are incapable if taking responsibility for themselves.
Secondly, women are the ones who have an endless arsenal of penis shaped sex toy and objects that they use to fuck themselves. They literally reduce men to sex objects.
If you want your boys to grow up to respect women, make sure they have a good adult male role model. Boys learn how to be men from their fathers or (their male role models). If your husband or SO is a good upstanding man, your boys will learn from his example and will be as well
I would think the objectifying would be because of a lot of lust and the hate would be due to a bad experience. I think most men that hate women must have a terrible mother and also have little success in dating.
Lust is just sexual desire for someone. Objectitfying is treating someone like a object to use. Totally different things in my opinion. Seems like a lot of people don't know what objectitfying is
Honestly it is hard for us to understand where the line draws, a man may want to have sex with a large breasted woman, that doesn't mean he intends on treating her badly.
Yeah from this question I'm really starting to realize that guys have no idea what being objectifyed actually means. It is okay to have preferences/like a woman's body but it's not okay to treat her like only a object for sex
Sure fine, but you tell us watching porn is sexist, playing video games with women in bikinis is sexist, looking at women is sexist. It doesn't matter what our intentions are just that we do it. Sure not all women say that or even all feminists, but women who tolerate what other women consider objectifying are merely called self-haters, whereas men who do are sexist. Thus we are made to feel ashamed of the fact that we have urges like you do.
I don't have any issues with porn or sexy girls in video games since that stuff isn't reality. I more have issues with guys that treat real women like in person like a object. (And yes I know porn is real women but they are really just being actors)
The agressive kind is definitely taught. Not directly taught by someone but kind of from the exposure the individual has experienced through the behaviour of others or the kind of media they consumed. I don't believe it's a natural instinct for for people to objectify. Admiring someone physically is one thing that basically everyone might do but objectifying depersonaliszes the individual they're looking at.
Pretty sure the only person I've objectified to this date is myself.
Same reason if a woman has issues with men. Its cause she had an absent or abusive father growing up. I have never met a crazy feminist who also had a great father. Men objectify women are the same type of men who had a terrible mother growing up or an absent one.
I really hope you're not in charge of raising your sons (I hope a man with regular levels of testosterone is in the picture). Weak men of overbearing mothers are the most dangerous, specifically for women.
Of course you don't, you're a modern woman who doesn't listen to the stats of boys raised by single moms- you think that you can somehow form a man, when you're NOT a man. Spoiler: you cannot. Unless you have a strong man around all you're going to convey to these boys are a list of things that you like/ dislike about guys. This is why every culture has a right of passage where boys are taken from their mothers and brought into the world of men. Iron sharpens iron.
@annabananna Because she's already alluded to men being objectifying and hateful of woman by her question- this is clear evidence that she doesn't like guys, likely because she had shit taste in men (which is why I don't hear of a husband in her situation). How do you imagine a single-mother acting towards boys when it's already clear to see she has negative feelings of men generally?
I have seen past posts of hers and she doesnât seem to hate men to me. She also said that itâs not all men. I have seen men on this site literally say that they hate women so I think asking why is a valid question. Also, I believe that she is married. Pretty sure she has talked about her husband in past posts.
How delusional do you have to be? Let me ask you a question that your mind will refuse to grasp- since women are antithetical to personal accountability- do you think men had more negative feelings toward women 100 years ago, or today? What changed? Birth control, the sexual revolution, and the rise of single mothers. It doesn't even make logistical sense for the far fewer fathers to be conveying this "hate toward women," especially when every stat shows that guys of single mothered homes are FAR more likely to engage in violence, including against women. All of this is beside the fact that you completely sidestepped the idea that women could have anything worth feeling negative toward. You ask guys why they "objectify women" (you poor little innocent damsels...), and "where does it come from" (knowing the only answer you'd accept would be from some form of insecurity, or "who hurt you" bs). Maybe you legitimately have some trait that men don't like, or you carry yourself in a way that a man is more likely to just want to sleep with you than marry you. But NOOOOOO, it's gotta be a problem with a men, right?
My husband has been deployed 5 times in the last 7 years. And no we are not separated at all but that doesn't mean he's home all the time like he is still busy with work
@annabananna Ok, let's speak like rational adults here. If someone asked why all black people were ignorant and violent, but then said "yea, I know not all black people," does that somehow negate the broad generalization they put out, begging someone answer? And HOW is it an argument by saying "what about..." "well, you too..." This whataboutism is something women always engage in during an argument to deflect the point. Just because some other guy is more extreme doesn't mean she isn't doing something similar.
I mean people hate and I donât see a problem in having the discussion on why. I donât know if Iâd say itâs the same as saying that about black people because hate is an emotion where violence and ignorance is more of a character flaw.
@annabananna I agree, there's no problem having a discussion, but how many women are open to the idea that they share some of the blame for being objectified, or being disliked by men?
I donât but it seems like thatâs how tv and magazines portray women and thatâs what boys see , sex sells so thatâs how it is, but men shouldnât abuse women for that
I really don't know where it comes from. Teach your boys to respect women and their bodies. That women are capable, intelligent and amazing PEOPLE first and foremost.
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As Tom macdonald said
Objectify your sexuality then blame you for the rape
Usually it's because they had a bad experience with some cheating or lying bitch, or they want sex and can't get it. Both of which make them unlikable, which makes them angrier. Coupled with sense of entitlement to other people's time, body and attention which they don't get, makes it much worse.
Men do blame rape on women a lot of the time. It's honestly disgusting đ
Yeap. It's why most don't come forward, and most that do are either not believed, they get harmed, threatened or the dude gets little jail time.
Shit that's why I didn't say shit and why I don't judge others who don't day shit. It's pain we don't need to keep reliving especially when nothing comes from it.
Oh no sorry you had to go through that. It would be extremely difficult to speak up about it đ„
Don't be, you have no culpability and others have had it much worse, many still do.
I can talk about it now, largely because I know someone has to do so in order to show others its ok.
Most of the new permit holder/first time buyer customers that come in to my store are women, I would honestly rather help them find a gun that the tacti-tool lumberjack wannabe men. I understand a gun is not a magic shield against attack but it tends to make most think twice, or at least decrease the number of repeat offenders🤣. Love seeing someone else listen to Tom Macdonald, that guy is on point. @Agape93 I'm sorry to hear that you went through that, please keep speaking up, louder for the kids in the back. All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. I am so impressed that you are able to live life and not turn bitter, as the best revenge is living well. You are doing life right. Your effort is helping my daughters lives become just a tiny bit easier.
Exactly 100%
And thanks love, I appreciate it. I hope they're doing well
Men who hate women almost always have one thing in common, they are not having any regular sex.
This is soo true lol
Says the femcel
@Asad1ONE1 Says the incel.
@Cassie88 ok so I guess both of us are right lol
Oops đŹ I meant to say "ahh what do we have here?
Not one. But two femcels!
How cute đ„ș
Misogyny usually starts to form quite early in life and that hatred stems from trauma involving a female figure they trusted. They donât heal from it and project onto most women, typically who ever subconsciously triggers those memories
There are multiple reasons why men hate today's women. The biggest is the fact that today's women offer men little more than sex. Men of the past had more motivation to be the kind of man a good woman wants, but that motivation is disappearing because the quality women men want have mostly disappeared. Today's women don't understand what a quality woman is. They have changed drastically and expected men to just accept them as they are. But any man who does an honest cost/benefit analysis of marriage or committed relationships with women will conclude they're not worth it anymore.
This is just feminist dogma. Men are visual creatures, and women like to get their attention.
I wouldn't call it hate of women, but what women have done, to have these ideas you do.
You have to remember it's not mansplainging, when a man explains how it is.
I don't think there is, for the most part, any hatred involved. At the risk of not being OC I will say, in my experience men and women think differently about these kind of things. When a man takes the time to listen to the women in his life, he comes to realize this. I have female friends and we talk about a lot of different topics and sexual harassment is one of the main topics we discuss. If I am one hundred percent honest the majority of the examples they give would not only not bother me were the situation reversed, but flatter me. We grew up with the golden rule; "treat others the way you want to be treated". I say this is flawed because not everyone wants treated the same as you do, rather, treat others the way they want to be treated.
Hahahah i love how women believe that men having a Natural sexual interest in them is âhateâ.
Itâs Like people staring at a sunset because they hate it. âWow look at the awe and beauty of that stunning sunset⊠piece of shit sunsetâ hahaha such an insane mentality.
1st of all, men donât âobjectifyâ women. Women objectify themselves.
Men simply observe females exposing themselves for sexual cheap attention and women blame men because they are incapable if taking responsibility for themselves.
Secondly, women are the ones who have an endless arsenal of penis shaped sex toy and objects that they use to fuck themselves. They literally reduce men to sex objects.
men donât fuck objects, women do.
If you want your boys to grow up to respect women, make sure they have a good adult male role model. Boys learn how to be men from their fathers or (their male role models). If your husband or SO is a good upstanding man, your boys will learn from his example and will be as well
I would think the objectifying would be because of a lot of lust and the hate would be due to a bad experience. I think most men that hate women must have a terrible mother and also have little success in dating.
First answer a question for me, what is the difference between lust and objectification or is there one?
Lust is just sexual desire for someone. Objectitfying is treating someone like a object to use. Totally different things in my opinion. Seems like a lot of people don't know what objectitfying is
Honestly it is hard for us to understand where the line draws, a man may want to have sex with a large breasted woman, that doesn't mean he intends on treating her badly.
Yeah from this question I'm really starting to realize that guys have no idea what being objectifyed actually means.
It is okay to have preferences/like a woman's body but it's not okay to treat her like only a object for sex
Sure fine, but you tell us watching porn is sexist, playing video games with women in bikinis is sexist, looking at women is sexist. It doesn't matter what our intentions are just that we do it. Sure not all women say that or even all feminists, but women who tolerate what other women consider objectifying are merely called self-haters, whereas men who do are sexist. Thus we are made to feel ashamed of the fact that we have urges like you do.
I don't have any issues with porn or sexy girls in video games since that stuff isn't reality. I more have issues with guys that treat real women like in person like a object. (And yes I know porn is real women but they are really just being actors)
Ok, thanks, I try not to treat women badly. Some men though are just mean and don't care about others at all.
Nowadays women are objectifying women. At least these that are vocaly pro fully legal prostitution.
First you say that women should be able to treat their bodies like an object and later criticize (mostly) men for treating women bodies like objects.
Seems legit.
The issue with prostitution is the men that seek that out. Not the women doing it
In my country feminists seek this out.
Imagine being a prostitute and saying it's the mens fault. What a complete load of bullsht
Men can't grape you and leave money on the counter. This destroys your entire argument.
@PatriceONeal Not, really as feminists are the ones who try to normalise it and not men.
Look at your question!..
God DAMN!. IT!..
(Men, why do you objectify women?)
"Men" - Subject. (50% sure)
"Why" - Proverb. (50% sure)
"Do" - Verb. (50% sure)
"You" - Pronoun. (50% sure)
"Objectify" - Adjectives. (50% sure)
"Women" - Object in the Sentence. (100% sure)
YOU ARE DOING THE SAME!.. 🤭
Don't point your finger at us!.
From what I see around their hate comes from rep pill ideologies and supposed alpha males podcasts.
Oh gosh those type of podcasts are the worst
I think hate stems from frustration as failure to understand. From inability to truly communicate love.
Men do seem to struggle a lot with communication
Honestly I think thatâs a 2 way street. We often speak different love languages to each other
The agressive kind is definitely taught. Not directly taught by someone but kind of from the exposure the individual has experienced through the behaviour of others or the kind of media they consumed.
I don't believe it's a natural instinct for for people to objectify. Admiring someone physically is one thing that basically everyone might do but objectifying depersonaliszes the individual they're looking at.
Pretty sure the only person I've objectified to this date is myself.
Same reason if a woman has issues with men. Its cause she had an absent or abusive father growing up. I have never met a crazy feminist who also had a great father. Men objectify women are the same type of men who had a terrible mother growing up or an absent one.
I really hope you're not in charge of raising your sons (I hope a man with regular levels of testosterone is in the picture). Weak men of overbearing mothers are the most dangerous, specifically for women.
I don't see anything wrong with mom's being in charge of raising their sons. This is not dangerous at all
What did she say that would make you think she is overbearing or that her sons are weak?
@annabananna yeah I don't get that either. I'm not being overbearing. Im just trying to prevent my son's from growing into terrible men
Of course you don't, you're a modern woman who doesn't listen to the stats of boys raised by single moms- you think that you can somehow form a man, when you're NOT a man. Spoiler: you cannot. Unless you have a strong man around all you're going to convey to these boys are a list of things that you like/ dislike about guys. This is why every culture has a right of passage where boys are taken from their mothers and brought into the world of men. Iron sharpens iron.
@annabananna Because she's already alluded to men being objectifying and hateful of woman by her question- this is clear evidence that she doesn't like guys, likely because she had shit taste in men (which is why I don't hear of a husband in her situation). How do you imagine a single-mother acting towards boys when it's already clear to see she has negative feelings of men generally?
Ah so this hate is generational passed down by fathers lol
I'm seeing the issue now thanks for clearing that up
I have seen past posts of hers and she doesnât seem to hate men to me. She also said that itâs not all men. I have seen men on this site literally say that they hate women so I think asking why is a valid question. Also, I believe that she is married. Pretty sure she has talked about her husband in past posts.
... I have a husband đ doesn't mean that I'm not solo parenting tho
đ€Ł lmaooh yea isnât he in the military? Or am I getting you confused with someone else?
How delusional do you have to be? Let me ask you a question that your mind will refuse to grasp- since women are antithetical to personal accountability- do you think men had more negative feelings toward women 100 years ago, or today? What changed?
Birth control, the sexual revolution, and the rise of single mothers. It doesn't even make logistical sense for the far fewer fathers to be conveying this "hate toward women," especially when every stat shows that guys of single mothered homes are FAR more likely to engage in violence, including against women.
All of this is beside the fact that you completely sidestepped the idea that women could have anything worth feeling negative toward. You ask guys why they "objectify women" (you poor little innocent damsels...), and "where does it come from" (knowing the only answer you'd accept would be from some form of insecurity, or "who hurt you" bs). Maybe you legitimately have some trait that men don't like, or you carry yourself in a way that a man is more likely to just want to sleep with you than marry you. But NOOOOOO, it's gotta be a problem with a men, right?
@annabananna yess my husband is military
Girl I donât know how you do it. God bless you.
Since there are no major deployments I'm guessing you're separated; so, let's not pretend he's off fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Dude why are you so on the attack?
My husband has been deployed 5 times in the last 7 years. And no we are not separated at all but that doesn't mean he's home all the time like he is still busy with work
@annabananna thank you! And yes it gets hard sometimes but I manage the best that I can
@annabananna Ok, let's speak like rational adults here. If someone asked why all black people were ignorant and violent, but then said "yea, I know not all black people," does that somehow negate the broad generalization they put out, begging someone answer?
And HOW is it an argument by saying "what about..." "well, you too..." This whataboutism is something women always engage in during an argument to deflect the point. Just because some other guy is more extreme doesn't mean she isn't doing something similar.
I mean people hate and I donât see a problem in having the discussion on why. I donât know if Iâd say itâs the same as saying that about black people because hate is an emotion where violence and ignorance is more of a character flaw.
Lady, I was in the Marine Corps Infantry- don't tell me that your pog husband is gone for longer than a typical day job.
@annabananna I agree, there's no problem having a discussion, but how many women are open to the idea that they share some of the blame for being objectified, or being disliked by men?
Def a a pog, he does cool stuff lol and yes unfortunately is gone for a lot of time but that's just part of his job
Def not*
Okay, what's his MOS? "Cool stuff," yea like bring the infantry guys our food out in the field...
My husband is infantry đ he's 11c
I don't. But to answer the question:
1. Poor upbringing.
2. Peer pressure.
3. Indoctrination by media.
4. Madison Avenue / advertising.
I donât but it seems like thatâs how tv and magazines portray women and thatâs what boys see , sex sells so thatâs how it is, but men shouldnât abuse women for that
I really don't know where it comes from. Teach your boys to respect women and their bodies. That women are capable, intelligent and amazing PEOPLE first and foremost.