
Feminists say men are dense. However, get it when they are told the risk of sexual harassment in the work place, the "Me Too" movement, and especially that "No means No."

Feminists say men are dense. However, get it when they are told the risk of sexual harassment in the work place, the "Me Too" movement, and especially that "No means No."
“Feminists say men are dense”. You are spot about feministic conceited dysfunctional (and self sabotaging) thinking. The thing is feminists already asume they know exactly what it’s like to be a man and nothing could be farther from the truth.
Anyway I’ve been hearing more and more women complain about men not approaching them nowadays or if they do they are too shy to make a move. Well when society throws men under the bus for years and scares the hell out of them what do think is going to happen?
Anyways women naturally play hard to get and sh*t test men. They don’t want to look too “easy”. They often don’t even realize they are doing this (it’s subconscious) but it has to do with be respected as high value. There was a time prior to modern feminism that men would tolerate these games because the worst that could happen was rejection and/or public embarrassment. But men were less worried about unsubstantiated sexual harassment accusations, losing their jobs, having their reputations destroyed or scariest of all facing criminal charges.
But feminism is berated and browbeaten men for years (and intensified under metió in recent years) to take a woman’s word at face value. It used to be that men were supposed to not take a woman’s word at face value if her mannerisms and body language. But now it’s just way too risky for men.
The thing is there will unfortunately always be trashy and aggressive men out there. These guys could care less about how they “make a woman feel”. They only care about what they can get away with.
But considerate and thoughtful guys are now overthinking the living hell out of interacting with women romantically. That’s obliviously doesn’t come off as “confidence” which women always say they want in a man. But again these men have concluded that the risks outweigh the benefits when it comes to pursuing women who are unclear about how they feel about the guys. Sadly these are often men that would make decent boyfriends or even husbands for these women. It’s a lose lose all the way around for everybody.
The only way to solve this is to have women step up their game. It’s none on women to approach men, directly communicate (no matter how uncomfortable the conversation is), mean what they say and initiate physical contact and sex. Women generally have a lot less to worry about when it comes to hitting on guys other then rejection and social embarrassment. They are less likely to have their reputations destroyed if the guy isn’t interested. They rarely if ever will lose their jobs and almost never face criminal prosecution (unless they are hitting on minors or something).
Anyway some women are getting more bold nowadays. But many still don’t want to make a move. So this ultimately makes everybody miserable. But women are running out of excuses for when it comes to blaming men. We aren’t mind readers or supermen.
Singlehood rates are at record highs right now. Over 62 percent of men under 30 are single. Roughly 35 percent of women say they are single (someone women might think the guy they are just hooking up with his their boyfriend and he’s not. Also women do often date older guys).
But either way this isn’t good. And there is virtually nothing men can do at this point. The rules and expectations are constantly changing so men just quit.
It’s really on women to do something. They can start by CALLING OUT bullsh*t metoo accusations they see their sisters do. And call it out even if they don’t know (or even like) the guy she’s accusing IF they know the other woman is lying. That does so much incredible damage not only to the falsely accused man but to other men witnessing that.
I do. I don't play mind games. I have no patience for that.
I do have plenty of patience when it comes to going slow and really getting to know a woman beforehand.
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Are we talking about hard to get, or outright rejection? Cause if they say "No, I don't want to" that's a rejection, not "playing hard to get." If it's a rejection, as a guy you should walk away and clear your head from any thoughts about that person anymore. Don't let some random person live in your head rent-free asides from yourself.
If the woman saying "No" in fact did want you to continue chasing them, then that's their for shitty communication. Lying and/or trying to be vague about your intents is a pretty common cause for screwing up future relationships. Be a good, honest communicator, don't play BS.
@homegal99 Then they should especially learn this, because then otherwise they'll remain in that miserabe state forever.
@homegal99 Exceptions don't make the rule.
Guys often freak out when women you direct, so as a weak ridiculous solution, many play games which sets a precedent for games being the norm, accommodating men who expect games, puts women who don’t play gages in an unnecessarily compromised position , and perpetuates the problem.
I encourage women to be direct to weed out the guys who claim they don’t want to play games but what that really mean is they don’t want to be played, where they have no problem playing.. Expecting someone to censor themselves so you feel in charge, is a huge game.
So yeah, I think if you are able to be graceful when someone is direct with you then sure, if someone plays games, absolutely cut them loose. Move on.
if you care to you can give a warning, if you think they are just on social etiquette BS autopilot but otherwise decent.
Feminists are stupid but absolutely nobody should pursue someone whose playing games. The first thing is people aren’t mind readers it’s not easy to tell if someone’s playing games or is genuinely not interested.
I refuse to waste my time in pursuing someone whose not showing any effort back I’m not going to play these games. I know that if someone’s genuinely interested in me that she will show interest in me.
So whether a girl isn’t interested in me or she’s playing games. Why be with her when there’s other options that I will get something out of?
Most of the only men who will play that games are on one hand are players, guys playing games, and dudes like that. Who are the others? The kind of guys that she’s genuinely not interested in who can’t take no for a answer.
If I make a effort to show a woman I’m attracted to and she doesn’t show any back especially if I’ve been clear. Then she’s obviously not interested in me enough.
If I’m rejected then I know I can move on and not waste my time. If im not given a clear answer then I’ve done my part of she’s interested the balls in her court now.
A girl who "plays hard to get" should ACTUALLY HAVE something to back that attitude. Gratuitous game playing will lead a guy to the Exit quicker than you can say chippy.
I don't know why the declaration about so-called "feminists" is relevant to the lead question at all.
If you're legitimately busy or genuinely preoccupied with something, a guy can tell you're valuable and worth pursuing but just busy... that the guy has to exercise a bit of patience to get that girl.
When a woman plays hard to get, it's often hard to tell whether that's what she's doing, or she's just not interested. But it doesn't matter in the end because I'm not going to waste my time pursuing a woman who has no interest in me, nor will I waste my time on a woman who plays childish games like that. So I'm out either way.
Absolutely.
I used to like the chase of it when I was 16-19, now I'm much more serious of a person.
I don't have time for a chase or for games, I will wear my intentions/goals on my sleeve and if she doesn't reciprocate or isn't interested then that's over. This way I avoid any drama we well as preventing attachment myself.
“Feminists say men are dense” is poor advice and those spreading this poor advice are making the world and relationships worse. In cases like these the juice is not worth the squeeze. Go find another woman who actually shows interest in you, there are plenty. Who has time for games. Move on.
Yeah but to me "playing hard to get" is about how she acts when it comes to even talking to the guy or agreeing to go out. It doesn't mean she has to sleep with the guy because he said 'hello' or 'i want you'. ha.
Girls who play hard to get are such a turn off. It already sets the scene that it's a one sided relationship with her being the controlling one.
I would run in the opposite direction.
Yes because the chance she´s not into him is higher than the chance that she actually likes him.
If he's smart, he will walk away, after a certain point. Every guy with even a little bit of romantic experience knows that you have to give women a certain amount of leeway for stuff like that.
i don't care. people can do what they think is best. i personally wouldn't describe myself as the person with the most self esteem. but i do have enough not to run after a girl with her head up her own ass.
Yes, I hated all the games that girls played. I used to get sick of it pretty quick
In today's environment, that's called stalking. A man could find himself face down on the pavement in cuffs.
At some extent it's a part of human mating dance. However it's like with all other things, too much is too much.
If the girl's hot the boy may have to try harder to get her, but if she's too much of a diva, go on to the next broad.
People need to be careful as they go through life. As to what they wish for. Because sometimes it backfires on them.
Just like people saying they want Harris without hearing how she will reasonably pay for everything!
If she's acting like a middle school girl with insecurities and is playing coy then I don't want her anyway. Stupid games make you a lonely bitter cat lady.
If she's playing hard to get, I just assume she is not interested and move on.
Guess he has that right and if he is tired of playing that game I see no issue with him moving on!
Women that play hard to get is a sign of low to no interest in a man.
I say move on.
If she is playing hard to get, the guy should just take the hint and move on.
Yes I do. It's what I do. I don't play idiotic childish manipulative games. Women that play hard to get aren't girlfriend or wife material.
Yes, she's immature, arrogant, and is already starting in with the power games
Absolutely
I don't even meet clients without CCTV these days
If she makes it impossible and is extremely demanding, it will always be this way
Hell yeah. I ain't got no time or respect for that!
Nah, if he knows this is the case let the games begin.
hard to get = high maintanence
Girls play hard to get?
It never happens with an average guy.
Why complicate things anymore than they need to be.
I did. More than once.
Don't play games
No. When in doubt whip it out.
Up to him. Some guys like the challenge.
life ain't no a popularity contest.
Yes.
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