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Why We Need to Calm Down About Coronavirus (Page 2)
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When schools close down, I know students miss their friends and are disappointed when teenagers can't date but this is a good opportunity for people to get to know each other on an intellectual level (rather than a physical level) - by communicating through text, email, etc. (rather than by dating, kissing, hugging, etc.) It weeds out those who date for the sole purpose of having sex.
It's also an excellent opportunity to learn about human behavior (so we know whom to avoid when dating in person). Josette Sona writes excellent books on the subject (and they can be downloaded for free so you don't even have to leave your home to read them).
Maybe air kisses will come back in fashion, now. ;)
If you are worried about it, just go have a few beers..
"Beer Consumption and Correlation to the Corona Virus Infection 3/12/2020
1.0 Abstract
Natural hops active against series of RNA and DNA viruses, Antiviral activity of hop constituents against series of
DNA and RNA viruses.[10] It is investigated here to determine if beer drinking is associated with less cases and or
less rates of corona virus Covid-19. The correlation death rate in the high beer consumption area is about 3 times
lower and the number of cases in the high beer consumption area is about 4 times lower. Overall high beer
consumption areas correlated with 10 times lower deaths . . ."
https://vixra.org/pdf/2003.0262v1.pdf
Get a Corona to fight the Corona!
Brilliant
The media's job isn't to scare people, it's to inform people.
Pissing on media is the trend of people of low intellect. Clickbait is the work of bloggers in their mother's basements.
Your graph needs work.
Smallpox wiped out entire communities. It's been estimated smallpox reduced First Nations populations by 80 per cent. Some survivors of polio, ending up in iron lungs, may have thought death was preferable.
Covid-19 has less deaths than it might have due to mitigation. What your graph doesn't show is that people who have recovered from Covid-19 include those who have damaged lungs for life or those who now have a predilection for strokes, or those who have survived but with the amputation of a limb.
I hope people realize that the reason things have been going well (low mortality rates) is BECAUSE people are freaking out and taking this seriously. If we were all relaxing, it would be a lot worse in the world right now.
It's incredibly important to get rid of the "just relax" mentality. If people start caring less, more people will be infected. I think it's important to take this seriously and be worried about it.
No thanks. I rather be safe than sorry. The H1N1 influenza (2009) was a successful scaremongering with the fatality rate being 0.02%, whereas the covid19 has a fatality rate of 3,4%. I call the H1N1 influenza having a super low death rate. Hell, it's even weaker than the seasonal flu.
however i don't go around and panic and stockpile for the next end of the world event.
Having thought about it, I am not certain why it is that people are buying toilet paper, of all things. Perhaps they envision a future in which going outside is completely unsafe, or a future in which there is literally no toilet paper available because nobody is making it. Taking it a bit further, they imagine themselves having to wipe with their hands, and then somehow struggle to clean the hands (people in the Middle Ages did this) - which is a very unclean process. Finally, it's very hard to buy hand sanitizer or masks anymore, but there is no problem buying toilet paper (yet). It is the one thing that people can buy, and feel like they have at least "done something" about the virus. This is all speculation, and if anyone has a better idea, please TELL me!
Thats what i was thinking, but again one of the reasons why this virus isn't as deadly its because of the global effort to contain it. The Spanish influenza in 1920 killed many people and it Was just the flu
Yes - containment is hugely important and I believement it can still be achieved. I don't like the attitude of some countries, like the UK for instnace, which just saw the virus as an inevitablity rather than put in any drastic measures to stop it, like putting a stop to flights earlier, etc. Spanish flu did kll many people, but it was also 100 years ago, so hopefully with medical advances, survival rate will be higher. Plus I can think of other viruses which caused major panic in the last few years but weren't major killers globally - like the Swine flu in 2009 and Ebola in 2014.
"Spanish" flu was hushed up by POTUS at the time, to keep up morale.
"Woodrow Wilson is probably the great negative historical example of how a president should manage a pandemic. People got sick at a military installation in Kansas and Wilson was told by his medical people don't ship them to Europe because this pandemic will spread. Wilson said it is much more important to proceed with the war effort. He was worried that the president or the government would become unpopular.
And the result was that they were put on ships and in very close quarters. They were later called coffin ships because they were so close together that the disease spread, a lot of people died. Got to Europe and the illness spread through Europe."
@goaded There again is an example of intentional mass murder.
All very good points. However, I think a good reason to be a bit unnerved is how it's spreading so fast and how contagious it is. This means hospitals might reach their max capacity at some point, which would be extremely unfortunate, especially for those in the risk groups. So let's hope that it doesn't get to that point for most countries/cities.
gosh im glad you came out of retirement to tell us lol... seriously though you are ofcourse completely right
What do you mean retirement? Haha I just thought some of these facts may be useful - I actually have health anxiety so a lot of the headlines in the news are really bad for people like me, and they don't report on the good stuff, so felt like someone should say!
hadn't seen you here much lately, thats all... yeah it does play on peoples minds and infact i have been at least trying to put every question about it in trending and news so people can avoid it if they wish... i even moved one from how do i look section a couple of days ago... sadly i see yours is locked ;)
oh haha yeah I've been busy... and I just felt like shutting down the unnecessary panic - don't want to sound stupid but how do I unlock it then lol
dont know to be honest... it might be because you did it as a mytake or another mod already moved it to health but i suspect its the former
People writing shit like this end up causing other people to spread the virus and kill people. Sit down, listen, and be quiet. Let the experts do the talking.
Sitting and listening doesn’t do any good when preventing the spread of a pandemic. This person did a great job of simplifying what the news is exaggerating. You can’t always sit down on your ass and wait for the experts to alert you. You need to stay informed and educate others
@Konabeana Sitting and listening does a lot to prevent the spread of an epidemic. Especially when done from the confines of a home quarantine. Stupid shit said in this article:
"1. The death rate is actually super low." No, it's alarmingly high.
"3. Most of those who died are the elderly and those with health issues." Fuck you, so those people dying is more acceptable? WTF?
"5. Thousands have tested negative for the virus." Whoopie, it has more people to spread too!!
1. The death rate is actually super low.
I am just dumbfounded by this. If it's just 1% .. tell me who the hell thinks one out of 100 deaths is OK? What the actual fuck?
This can potentially kill 500,000 here in the US and millions worldwide. Expec people you know or familiar names to die from it.
Dumbfucks are still out there shaking hands... Last night I am out and aout seeing people do this. I got laughed at for insisting on elbow bumps. This was the day our county had its first confirmed case. That means there is probably a dozen more already walking around the area spreading it.
The media should be ringing every bell it can to reach those dumbfucks who dont get it yet.
I think people just don’t realize that it’s nothing but a more aggressive strain of the seasonal flu. You get it the same way. Not washing your hands, touching hands of someone who has coughed or sneezed in their hands. Just not being hygienic in general and being in personal contact with someone who already has it. So yes, like you said, stay clear if touching others hands, touching things out in public especially if you take public transportation. Don’t touch all on your face and wipe or rub on your eyes etc. You’ll be just fine if you don’t do those things. I never even had the flu and have always did the things I mentioned so I’m not really worried about getting it. It’s only scary to those who are, should I say, nasty as far as hygiene. Or anyone who has travelled out of the country.
what experts? Experts can lie to.
@DeJjj "I think people just don’t realize that it’s nothing but a more aggressive strain of the seasonal flu."
No, we get that. We also get that it's not the flu, but a different type of virus.
When people say this is a more aggressive strain of the flu, it sounds about as stupid as saying coyotes are a more aggressive breed of house cat.
This isn't just about your health and your ability to survive it. It's about not passing it on to those who may not survive it.
To stay with the comparison to a similar respiratory disease, the flu, this is 20 times more deadly and highly contagious. The world has not dealt with this kind of outbreak in over 50 years. SARS and MERS were deadlier but contained. Ebola is deadly, but not highly contagious. The H1N1 flu ten years ago killed about 600,000 worldwide. Prior to that, the last great epidemic was 1968 which killed a million.
Unchecked and allowed to run rampantly, Sars-Cov2 has the possibility to kill 12-36 million world wide. Realistically it could kill 500,000+ here in the U. S. While it may not affect you directly, it means you or people you know will be going to the funeral of a loved one in the next three to twelve months.
So yes, wash your hands. Socially quarantine yourself. It's only through unprecedented global cooperation, which we as a human race have never had in our entire history, we might actually contain this thing and stop it.
Honestly, I agree except I would recommend not to get checked unless your symptoms serious or you have someone vulnerable at home, as a way to avoid collapsing hospitals. Because if many people go to check at the same time to the same hospital they can create a unnecessary chaos. On the other side they could be taking doctors' time from people who have more serious issues.
Though the volume is low still people worry and scared of Covid-19 because still, medical science has not come out with any curable treatment or medication. We cannot judge the critical situation on the patient ratio Unless we don't find the antidote of the Covid-19.
We do not need to calm down about the coronavirus, it just got updated to a pandemic. You don't grasp the fact that your body doesn't build natural immunity after catching it. You might survive the first time, but the second very well can kill you. Good luck surviving getting it 10 times. There will come a point where everyone will be infected, as soon as you get better someone will get you sick again, people will start dropping in thousands a day.
You guys are doing what the media wants you to do. Panic. It’s nothing but a gimic. Although all of this is actually happening and people are getting infected it doesn’t mean it wasn’t planned. All of this is going on around the time of election. Their even telling us to vote from home knowing that many will forget to mail in their ballots. This is all set up for us to panic and be scared and believe this is gonna end the whole world. It’s a distraction and from comments like these it’s working lol. It was like snatching candy from a baby.
@DeJjj You fail to understand that I don't watch tv and get my information from medical profesionals. Everyone who is downplaying this is an imbecile.
Lmfaoo you sound more upset than me shouting out insults which is one of a teen and you’re older than me just because you’re dramatic. Lmfaoo. Gtfo.
You’re the biggest imbecile on the post considering you’re not making any valid points just calling people names just to add some “taste” to what you saying and yet what you’re saying still has no substance. You’re a goofy.
@DeJjj If we all just stopped transmitting it from person to person it would just die off, but unfortunately a large portion of the population are fucking retards. You're a part of this group. Give it two weeks and you'll be shitting your pants when someone close to you will be dieing from respitory failure. No one in the USA will afford the doctors, there will be no places left in the hospitals, then you'll get some brain, but it'll be to late. Read about the situation in italy, it will be ther same where you live pretty soon.
https://youtu.be/Hks6Nq7g6P4
100% sure this is where you get your "science" from https://youtu.be/ch7_t2Ri2Zg
This shit is in my neighborhood. Literally just found out tonight... only miles from my house Pneumonia is not fun... its highly contagious and the panic is justified it could kill millions due to its exponential nature. Much more contagious than the flu bad comparison.
Show your source of infornation then
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@TienShenhan this is the true. Look whats happening in Italy
@Solstraale i am looking. I wonder how you all would react if say, the flue didn't exist until this year. It would spread faster than the Corona Virus and kill more people, and the fear levels would be even higher. The only reason we aren't freaking out about the flue is because it's already spread into our lives and found it's place in the cycle - and the news isn't highlighting the deaths caused from it. I guarantee if you started seeing how many people die from the flu and the media kept telling us to worry, people damn well would worry. Its a disease dude, it gets you sick, it might kill you. Life goes on
@TienShenhan you're looking at wrong info dude
It's more contagious than flu and the heath care can't keep up. But keep belive ignorans is a blessing 👌
@Solstraale we have bad data right now to give an accurate answer to the mortality rate cuz we aren't testing enough people the more that come back positive and dont die the lower the death rate so we dont know yet
COVID19 has a psychological and financial element to it that's different from anything we've seen before. I think that that is super important to remember. Calming down is not helpful for people who live in affected areas; the damage isn't happening to populations, it's happening to industry and businesses.
Thank you. This is media hype, pure and simple.
The media is the mouthpiece for the DNC, and they would rather see this country crash and burn in the hopes they can gain power, get Trump out. This whole thing is a political hit piece. You'll see.
And when the smoke clears, and it turns out to be nothing even close to what they keep shrieking about, will they apologize and say they were wrong? Oh hell no. Hopefully they don't completely dismantle the country in the process.
"Hey, guys, there's this supposedly post-apocalyptic disease that could potentially kill us all, so we all should rush out to the store and purchase a shit ton of toilet paper" ...
Give it a rest. Trump cultists like you have ruined the country. This virus is as real as your hatred for your fellow man. How can this be a political hit piece ALL OVER THE FUCKING WORLD! Man, you are a lost cause.
I think @supercutebutt ran out of toilet paper and the stores are all sold out!
@supercutebutt Well, then of course you always get the cognitively impaired paranoid lunatics like Browneyes57 who are convinced that anything that goes wrong is an attack on Trump. I Have news for you Browneyes - nobody *needs* to attack Trump. He is his own worst enemy.
@msc545 - Well get ready for FOUR MORE YEARS kiddo. LOL
Get ready to get very sick, and perhaps die from the "media hype". Idiot.
The COVID-19 pandemic will likely result in mass casualties. It's not just a political hit piece. Medical professionals are forced to decide who lives and who dies, so what is happening now amounts to a war, not with other men, but with illness.
@msc545 - Thanks, but I'll pass. YOU can get ready to get very sick. Idiot.
How does one get sick from "media hype" ?
@msc545 - Now you're just twisting words. We have a fake news media that churns out bullshit all day long every day. Lies and lies. Nothing but Trump bashing regardless of what he does. Cut off travel he's a xenophobe, don't cut off and he's called ineffective. No matter what he does it's wrong.
They're a bunch of crazed lunatics on an agenda. Surely not 'news'. And if YOU believe them then you're just as bad. And ignorant to boot.
@Browneye57 I definitely agree. John Tory -- He's the mayor of Toronto -- instructed people not to worry and that we should not be xenophobic against Chinese people. Up until a week ago, federal leaders in Canada argued against border control because it is a) "ineffective in preventing the spread of COVID-19" and b) xenophobia. These f**king wombats are not doing their job. Russia closed its border in January and is better off as a result. Trudeau is ineffective. The news media is laughable, hence why I watch independent journalism.
It hit us harder than SARS but we had learnt from SARS time, so countries are more well prepared. we saw spikes in South Korea cases and also many deaths in china which resulted in people more fearing for death.
But I agree that we need to calm down at the same time take safety precautions.
We should continue to practice the hand hygiene and limit unnecessary travelling.
All countries are doing their best to protect their citizens and this is a good job.
How old is the asker/ author. The death rate in Italy right now is 4-5% , would the author accept doing something were the death rate I 5% ? And if you are over 70 year old the death rate is way height, so to tell people to calm down is pretty cheap
If you actually read what I wrote, I did explain that there is a higher death rate for the elderly or those with underlying health conditions. Obviously the death rate isn't good, and I wouldn't go signing up for anything with a 5% death rate, but we're talking about a pandemic which is frequently being described as 'deadly', and I think striking panic is unnecessary, but we have to take precautions. The death rate for the younger generations is not 5%, but I know that doesn't mean we can breathe a sigh of relief.
I have mentioned in my post about the importance of following the guidance and practicing good prevention techniques. I actually have really bad health anxiety, so this post is designed for like-minded people who may feel particularly panic-ridden right now, thanks to some of the headlines.
For example, the other day I saw a headline which stated that 'morques needed to be making room' - even if this be the case, this is a horrible and unnecessary headline. Tell people how to be safe, not create that level of fear.
In regards to the statistics in Italy, I believe that Italy has a higher number of elderly citizens than most countries - if this be the case, this would be likely the reason why so many cases and deaths have occurred. Of course I worry about this age group. I have two grandparents who are between late seventies and early eighties with underlying health conditions. I am terrified they will get this virus, but I am trying my best to share some of the more positive statistics and the things the media is not reporting. I am sorry if it comes across wrong, but I am trying to bring some comfort for people like me who will allow it to fester in their brains.
Now I'd guess I'm a little older and very interested in history, a d I'll give you that things can get out of proportion. 104 years ago panic were much less when two big thing happend with in 3 month in France at the battle of Somme and the battle of Yprez over 1100000 young men lost there life , but no panic secured and finance marked didn't went beserk , while in our information time, a single shark attack across the opposite of the world can affect people don't go to the sea. But we can't close our eyes for this panic, much more deadly than the virus it self. Worst case could be riot across Europe , Once again the EU seems to lose out there maybe last chance to prove there legitim excist. Pretty sad that western culture seems so weak , when things get tough. We don't have a " strong man" to make unpopular but necessary decisions
Come on, soldiers dying thousands of miles away was never going to affect the markets in the US. We don't need a "strong man", we need people who know what they're doing or listen to people who do.
@goaded trough out my life I'd remember the end of the viatnam war and it seems to me that, different presidents did different things , and to se the sad picture of helicopters leaving 1000 of people at the us embassy in Saigon. And that is didn't had a strong president because of Watergate
You remember that? I was 7, and I'm 14 years older than you.
@goaded I'm born in the year the build the Berlin war , never really know where the age 40 comes from
6.6% now.
I agree: calm down, mortality rates aren't that high. But just watch out if you are a vulnerable group (older people, diabetic, etc..)
Follow the developments: coronamap dot org
Ah but wd still dont know enough to know why some get it but never shows symptoms an yet can pass it an never know they had it ever our DNA keeps a record of viruses an infections so till we get all viruses an deases researched an cords madd it will always be some new problem no 1 was looking for ahead of time lots of programs in countries got cut from searching for these that have been herd long before man back as far as cave men